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#201 | vcharon | Posted 12/12/2011 3:11:08 PM | message detail
I really doubt Seifer is worth anything after seeing the performance here, but I'm still curious to see how he performs alone. I can't imagine he'd be any stronger than Balthier or anything though, maybe not even that.

His KH2 appearance certainly does nothing to help him.
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#202 | The_Djoker | Posted 12/12/2011 3:12:53 PM | message detail

From: __Smurf__ | #199
I would be shocked if this were the case. Squall/Seifer was a far more predominant rivalry in its game, it got a 1st seed to reflect its significance in the eyes of nominators whereas he had a 2 in the last battle, Sora went the other way on the rivalry seeding stakes.


Rivalry factor is also how much people care about the characters as a duo. Sora/Riku are fairly popular characters in KH. Squall/Seifer is a better rivalry game wise but who actually cares about Seifer? Honestly.
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#203 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 12/12/2011 3:23:57 PM | message detail | (edited)
If KH characters are going down, wouldn't it make sense for Squall to go down as well since his strength stems primarily from KH?

I mean, I don't think Dissidia benefited him nearly as much as, say, Terra.
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#204 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 12/12/2011 3:23:34 PM | message detail
I would be shocked if this were the case. Squall/Seifer was a far more predominant rivalry in its game, it got a 1st seed to reflect its significance in the eyes of nominators whereas he had a 2 in the last battle, Sora went the other way on the rivalry seeding stakes.

Were there nomination topics or something on board 8 for either of these rivalries? Could explain the difference.
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#205 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 12/12/2011 3:24:40 PM | message detail
Maybe Squall would be doing better if his rival was Edea.
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#206 | Bigwig_rah | Posted 12/12/2011 3:27:44 PM | message detail
I think Squall would be losing this match right now if he was with Edea.
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#207 | BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 12/12/2011 3:29:50 PM | message detail

From: Not_Wylvane | #203
If KH characters are going down, wouldn't it make sense for Squall to go down as well since his strength stems primarily from KH?

I mean, I don't think Dissidia benefited him nearly as much as, say, Terra.


If KH characters are going down, wouldn't it make sense for Squall to go down as well since his strength stems primarily from KH?

I mean, I don't think Dissidia benefited him nearly as much as, say, Terra.


Actually, Dissidia may explain why he stayed pretty constant despite everything KH related bombing the last few years. Today's match notwithstanding, because this is clearly a result of Seifer being useless compared to Riku.
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#208 | BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 12/12/2011 3:30:40 PM | message detail
So Sora only managed to swing 300 votes with the ASV? That's even less than I would have thought.
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#209 | vcharon | Posted 12/12/2011 3:32:36 PM | message detail
Final Fantasy isn't falling off like KH has. That's just the nature of this website. I still think Squall can beat Sora 1v1 much more impressively than this. He's really having to fight with Sora and a midcarder in Riku while carrying what very well may be dead weight.

Doesn't help Seifer wasn't even in Dissidia so he could get a boost, or at least some exposure.
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#210 | Zylo the wolf | Posted 12/12/2011 3:41:56 PM | message detail
So do you guys think he would do better if his rival was Ultmecia?
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#211 | The_Djoker | Posted 12/12/2011 3:44:26 PM | message detail
#212 | The_Djoker | Posted 12/12/2011 3:47:04 PM | message detail
No. Youd have to have his girlfriend in there with him. Shes no rival though
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#213 | creativename | Posted 12/12/2011 3:50:01 PM | message detail
So through the feedback system I suggested that in the extra day before the finals match, we get a bonus poll of Batman vs. The Joker against one of the semi-finals losers (so either the loser of Mario vs. Bowser/Trainers or Link vs. Ganon/Cloud vs. Sephiroth), or a bonus poll after the championship where Batman vs. The Joker faces the champs.

Such a poll would probably draw by far the most votes of any poll this contest.

However anything through the feedback system is likely to be ignored, of course. So can anyone who actually chats with Bacon or something suggest this to him?
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#214 | jacko_vdz | Posted 12/12/2011 3:50:35 PM | message detail
Is there any explanation for why Sora did so well (comparatively) in the first 3 hours? I mean, that update graph is just whacked!
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#215 | jacko_vdz | Posted 12/12/2011 3:51:45 PM | message detail
creativename posted...
So through the feedback system I suggested that in the extra day before the finals match, we get a bonus poll of Batman vs. The Joker against one of the semi-finals losers (so either the loser of Mario vs. Bowser/Trainers or Link vs. Ganon/Cloud vs. Sephiroth), or a bonus poll after the championship where Batman vs. The Joker faces the champs.

Such a poll would probably draw by far the most votes of any poll this contest.

However anything through the feedback system is likely to be ignored, of course. So can anyone who actually chats with Bacon or something suggest this to him?


IMO we should have the battle for 3rd place on the day off, and then a bonus match (Batman/Joker) as a bonus round.
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#216 | JJH777 | Posted 12/12/2011 3:53:51 PM | message detail
This is disappointing I thought this was going to be Sora's biggest asv hour due to the high percent he had in California but he did basically nothing.
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#217 | th3l3fty | Posted 12/12/2011 3:54:10 PM | message detail
a 3rd place match on the day off seems like it would be shot down on the grounds that it might make guessing the winner easier for people in the battle challenge
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#218 | pjbasis | Posted 12/12/2011 4:01:16 PM | message detail
Ultiemecia could be stronger than Seifer on Dissidia alone, but she still would fail to create the synergy Seifer makes with Squall.
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#219 | Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 12/12/2011 4:06:42 PM | message detail
Still nice KH vote.I imagin when KH 3 comes out,KH series will gain a lot of strength.Also a 3rd place for a bonus poll would be nice.Or the winner vs Jesus/Satan.
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#220 | JJH777 | Posted 12/12/2011 4:08:44 PM | message detail
If Link ends up winning we need the Link vs Everyone poll someone suggested a few contests ago.
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#221 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/12/2011 4:11:06 PM | message detail
Birth by Sleep didn't boost Sora. Sora only has a cameo in the game, and it's not a good one.
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#222 | FateStayAlbion | Posted 12/12/2011 4:11:47 PM | message detail
#223 | Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 12/12/2011 4:12:24 PM | message detail
jacko_vdz posted...
Is there any explanation for why Sora did so well (comparatively) in the first 3 hours? I mean, that update graph is just whacked!

America dominates those first few hours of the vote. Then when you hit midnight Pacific time, Europe starts to wake up and take over the voting.
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#224 | charmander6000 | Posted 12/12/2011 4:14:36 PM | message detail
well at least we have some kind of a comeback
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#225 | vcharon | Posted 12/12/2011 4:19:30 PM | message detail
The_Djoker posted...
No. Youd have to have his girlfriend in there with him. Shes no rival though

COUPLES contest go.
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#226 | izNotPerfect | Posted 12/12/2011 4:20:37 PM | message detail

From: vcharon | #225
COUPLES contest go.


oh god not Link/Zelda
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#227 | vcharon | Posted 12/12/2011 4:23:33 PM | message detail
Unholy force.

Crono may have a chance of surviving round 1 in that contest, at least. Though with his luck he'd get a terrible draw.
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#228 | pjbasis | Posted 12/12/2011 4:25:27 PM | message detail
Cloud/Tifa > Link/Zelda

This time for sure!
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#229 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 12/12/2011 4:25:53 PM | message detail

From: vcharon | #225
COUPLES contest go.


But then we'd have to see Cloud/Sephiroth again!

Looks like Sora is soaring to Loserville. More like the After-School Choke!
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#230 | pjbasis | Posted 12/12/2011 4:33:26 PM | message detail
Sora/Riku might actually be more powerful in Romance Rumble.
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#231 | pjbasis | Posted 12/12/2011 4:37:32 PM | message detail
UltimaterializerX posted...
Birth by Sleep didn't boost Sora. Sora only has a cameo in the game, and it's not a good one.

I hope you're not referring to Blank Points or whatever it was called!
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#232 | The_Djoker | Posted 12/12/2011 4:39:56 PM | message detail
Couple contest would be awesome



Samus/Adam would become fodder

Id vote for kratos/his b*****
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#233 | th3l3fty | Posted 12/12/2011 4:49:09 PM | message detail | (edited)
couple contest this sounds like a disaster waiting to happen
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#234 | Sorozone | Posted 12/12/2011 4:46:34 PM | message detail
I vastly prefer an all fictional character battle over couples. Couples is....alright. I guess.

Couples would be predictable.
At least with all fictional, we have some debate on who will do well and who wouldn't, or whether or not some characters could dethrone Link or beat other noble niners.
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#235 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 12/12/2011 4:46:57 PM | message detail
Sonic/Amy Rose would probably be horrifically weak, to the point that Sonic/Tails or whatever might actually be stronger! And considering the Sonic fanbase, the latter or Sonic/Shadow or something might even make it in!

And Team WHAT AM I FIGHTING FORRRRRRRRRR
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#236 | The_Djoker | Posted 12/12/2011 4:47:32 PM | message detail
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#237 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 12/12/2011 4:48:14 PM | message detail
Jecht/Bashing Tidus in the F4.
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#238 | The_Djoker | Posted 12/12/2011 4:54:20 PM | message detail
Nominations

Pokemon trainer red / misty
Yoshi / pink yoshi
Luigi / daisy
Waluigi / birdo
Donkey kong / candy kong
Link / Malon
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#239 | TheOneAboveAll | Posted 12/12/2011 4:56:00 PM | message detail
I was gonna make a Sonic/Tails joke but it seems like I was beaten to it.
#240 | XIII_Lockes | Posted 12/12/2011 4:56:13 PM | message detail
th3l3fty posted...
couple contest this sounds like a disaster waiting to happen

But think of the potential TJF in every match!
#241 | JaKyL25 | Posted 12/12/2011 4:57:30 PM | message detail
Charizard (M)/Charizard (F)
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#242 | vcharon | Posted 12/12/2011 4:58:14 PM | message detail
Who would you guys want Shepard to get in with?
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#243 | Bigwig_rah | Posted 12/12/2011 4:59:23 PM | message detail
vcharon posted...
Who would you guys want Shepard to get in with?

Tali and there's no discussion.
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#244 | greatone10 | Posted 12/12/2011 5:00:13 PM | message detail
Personally, I don't want Link and Ganon vs. Batman and Joker. It would give us a hint as to where they might lie, and if they are to bomb or succeed past expectation, I'd rather go in blind.

That, and god forbid they do horribly, then selling Bacon on the idea of Fictional Characters mixed with VG characters becomes a lot harder.
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#245 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/12/2011 5:01:26 PM | message detail

From: vcharon | #242
Who would you guys want Shepard to get in with?


No one.
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#246 | vcharon | Posted 12/12/2011 5:01:31 PM | message detail
Bigwig is a great hero!
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#247 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/12/2011 5:01:42 PM | message detail
Actually that's not true. Garrus.
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#248 | vcharon | Posted 12/12/2011 5:02:44 PM | message detail
Female Shepard would do poorly I have to think, unless you mean waiting for ME3 for male/male relationship with Garrus.

Tali and Garrus are really the only ones that would be worth anything I have to believe.
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#249 | JaKyL25 | Posted 12/12/2011 5:03:12 PM | message detail
Couples Contest could give "He lost to a hand!" a whole new meaning.
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#250 | The_Djoker | Posted 12/12/2011 5:03:37 PM | message detail