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#1 | AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 12/12/2011 11:45:40 AM | message detail
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#2 | FateStayAlbion | Posted 12/12/2011 11:46:08 AM | message detail
Anyone acting like this match is over is crazy. At the very least it should get under 500, if not closer.
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#3 | XIII_socks | Posted 12/12/2011 11:46:29 AM | message detail
Two things can make this contest awesome:

trainers win the contest
I go perfect
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#4 | XIII_socks | Posted 12/12/2011 11:46:35 AM | message detail
well not awesome, but fun
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#5 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 12/12/2011 11:47:21 AM | message detail
The LAW being broken would be awesome, whoever does it. Not gonna happen though!
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#6 | XIII_socks | Posted 12/12/2011 11:47:37 AM | message detail

From: FateStayAlbion | #002
Anyone acting like this match is over is crazy. At the very least it should get under 500, if not closer.


It's a 1500 vote lead with these votals.

Sora's chances are...minimal. Not a lock, I guess.
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#7 | AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 12/12/2011 11:47:45 AM | message detail
Reposting from other topic...

"I know I'm biased about 2k4, but it is not as bad as people make it out to be.

Ryu H/Jill craziness, and then the winner somehow lost to Sora? Frog vs. Liquid Snake and then Frog vs. Master Chief? Tidus/Shadow "lol"? Snake/Tanner >_>

Late rounds were pretty boring compared to the high standards of previous contests, but Crono finally beat Mario in his third try, and there was a different winner from the previous contest (Remember, in 2004 we didn't know about THE LAW). Hell, even Frog vs. Solid **** was hilarious."
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#8 | RottingToe | Posted 12/12/2011 11:47:46 AM | message detail
24 vote cut right there

nice
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#9 | XIII_socks | Posted 12/12/2011 11:48:17 AM | message detail

From: Kotetsu534 | #005
The LAW being broken would be awesome, whoever does it. Not gonna happen though!


It's like tranny said, the alternative is Cloud. Euw.
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#10 | FateStayAlbion | Posted 12/12/2011 11:48:28 AM | message detail
XIII_socks posted...
From: FateStayAlbion | #002
Anyone acting like this match is over is crazy. At the very least it should get under 500, if not closer.
It's a 1500 vote lead with these votals.

Sora's chances are...minimal. Not a lock, I guess.


Like Red Sox said, in one of the 4way matches Sora cut about 1450 off of Squalls lead with 40k something votes.
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#11 | red sox 777 | Posted 12/12/2011 11:48:37 AM | message detail
Based on Squall/Sora 2008 R3, Sora wins with 51.04%. That would give him a win of around 1000 votes.

I've never seen the actual results differ from the projection by more than 1% this late into the match (15 hours), so it's looking real bad for Squall. He better hope the ASV really has weakened a lot.
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#12 | Xuxon | Posted 12/12/2011 11:49:05 AM | message detail

From: FateStayAlbion | #002
Anyone acting like this match is over is crazy. At the very least it should get under 500, if not closer.


Anyone acting like this match hasn't been over since before 1am is crazy. Sora isn't going to break 49%.
#13 | XIII_socks | Posted 12/12/2011 11:50:04 AM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #011
Based on Squall/Sora 2008 R3, Sora wins with 51.04%. That would give him a win of around 1000 votes.

I've never seen the actual results differ from the projection by more than 1% this late into the match (15 hours), so it's looking real bad for Squall. He better hope the ASV really has weakened a lot.


It has.
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#14 | RottingToe | Posted 12/12/2011 11:50:18 AM | message detail

From: Xuxon | #012
Anyone acting like this match hasn't been over since before 1am is crazy. Sora isn't going to break 49%.


I'm skeptical that Sora will win, but I am very confident that this will end with Sora at 49%
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#15 | The Mana Sword | Posted 12/12/2011 11:51:32 AM | message detail
people just desperate for an upset tbqh
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#16 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/12/2011 11:51:50 AM | message detail
Against Dante, Sora's day vote allowed him to finish only 1% higher than his lowest overnight percentage. This is over; lower votals and the younger CoD crowd bailing on the site have resulted in a diminished ASV. Majora barely overcame 1500 against FFX in a match with almost double the votals and some Zelda rallying.
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#17 | FateStayAlbion | Posted 12/12/2011 11:52:14 AM | message detail
The Mana Sword posted...
people just desperate for an upset tbqh

And an actual good match! This is probably the last chance we'll get for a really close match this contest
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#18 | red sox 777 | Posted 12/12/2011 11:52:28 AM | message detail
Sora/Squall R2 2008 gives us......Sora/Riku win with 50.68%. Better for Squall, but not much better, and the fact that the 2 projections are close is a bad sign for him, because it indicates neither of those matches had anomalous trends.
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#19 | Winged Supreme | Posted 12/12/2011 11:53:23 AM | message detail
What is "THE LAW"?
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#20 | AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 12/12/2011 11:53:29 AM | message detail

From: The Mana Sword | #015
people just desperate for an upset tbqh


Pretty much!
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#21 | Xuxon | Posted 12/12/2011 11:53:50 AM | message detail
Link/Cloud could be really close. And who knows with Pokemon. Not going to happen here, though.
#22 | red sox 777 | Posted 12/12/2011 11:53:58 AM | message detail
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#23 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 12/12/2011 11:53:59 AM | message detail
We'll know within an hour what's going to happen, most likely. Either Sora/Riku will be cutting with wild abandon and chopping the lead to shreds, or they won't be, in which case "good game".
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#24 | TheOneAboveAll | Posted 12/12/2011 11:54:37 AM | message detail
What is "THE LAW"?

Link Always Wins
#25 | TheOneAboveAll | Posted 12/12/2011 11:54:57 AM | message detail
What is "THE LAW"?

Link Always Wins
#26 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 12/12/2011 11:55:08 AM | message detail
It's like tranny said, the alternative is Cloud. Euw.

Some of us don't hate FF!
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#27 | AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 12/12/2011 11:56:07 AM | message detail

From: Winged Supreme | #019
What is "THE LAW"?


"Not to go on all-Four-ways; that is the Law. Are we not Men?

"Not to upset our brackets; that is the Law. Are we not Men?

"Not to vote except Square or Nintendo; that is the Law. Are we not Men?

"Not to support the Enemy of Link; that is the Law. Are we not Men?

"Not to rally other characters; that is the Law. Are we not Men?"
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#28 | red sox 777 | Posted 12/12/2011 11:57:06 AM | message detail
Against Dante, Sora's day vote allowed him to finish only 1% higher than his lowest overnight percentage. This is over; lower votals and the younger CoD crowd bailing on the site have resulted in a diminished ASV. Majora barely overcame 1500 against FFX in a match with almost double the votals and some Zelda rallying.

As strange as that may have seemed, the projection based on Dante/Riku actually predicted that very well. This match certainly is not over in Squall's favor.
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#29 | The Mana Sword | Posted 12/12/2011 11:58:40 AM | message detail
compare to crono/vincent trends please
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#30 | XIII_socks | Posted 12/12/2011 12:00:10 PM | message detail
As strange as that may have seemed, the projection based on Dante/Riku actually predicted that very well. This match certainly is not over in Squall's favor.


....Implying it may be over in Sora's? >_>;
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#31 | red sox 777 | Posted 12/12/2011 12:01:21 PM | message detail
Crono/Vincent (both of them) predicts a boring Squall win. Magus/Sandbag is better, and predicts a close match I think in Sora's favor, but still not as good for Sora as Squall/Sora. Yesmar mentioned earlier that that match had one of the biggest ASV swings of all time, and it's true.
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#32 | FateStayAlbion | Posted 12/12/2011 12:01:39 PM | message detail
Well, its now or never for Sora. The ASV should officially start now so he needs to start ripping into that lead.
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#33 | Xuxon | Posted 12/12/2011 12:03:23 PM | message detail

From: The Mana Sword | #029
compare to crono/vincent trends please


Squall wins with 50.97%. Crono/Vincent's big changes were early in the poll.
#34 | red sox 777 | Posted 12/12/2011 12:04:06 PM | message detail
....Implying it may be over in Sora's? >_>;

Possibly. As I said, I have never seen a direct projection be off by more than 1% from 15 hours into the match. Half a percent is fairly rare. And we have 1 projection showing a 51% win for Sora, the other showing a 50.7% win for Sora. It has been 3 years since those matches took place, and I don't want to call a match against the character with a 1500 vote lead in a contest with such low votals as this one, but I'd say it's looking pretty bleak right now for Squall.
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#35 | TRE Public Account | Posted 12/12/2011 12:04:39 PM | message detail
Sora needs 13.8 votes per update to make the comeback.
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#36 | Xuxon | Posted 12/12/2011 12:06:13 PM | message detail
look at those huge cuts! 8, 7, 7... okay maybe he breaks 49%. but not by much.
#37 | RottingToe | Posted 12/12/2011 12:06:16 PM | message detail
dammit, not quite enough by Sora. Need bigger cuts.
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#38 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 12/12/2011 12:15:36 PM | message detail
Sora probably needs to what, 55-45 Squall the rest of the way to win? That's not happening.
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#39 | The Mana Sword | Posted 12/12/2011 12:16:13 PM | message detail
dat squall asv
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#40 | FateStayAlbion | Posted 12/12/2011 12:16:25 PM | message detail
#41 | izNotPerfect | Posted 12/12/2011 12:17:28 PM | message detail
lol GG

First and last time I'll ever be on the leaderboard.
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#42 | __Smurf__ | Posted 12/12/2011 12:18:19 PM | message detail
The KH ASV has been poor for a while now, the KH era of schoolkids has come and gone.
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#43 | Zylo the wolf | Posted 12/12/2011 12:19:15 PM | message detail
I just noticed that this is a battle between the two most annoying video game characters of all time. Good thing that Seifer and Riku also are in the poll!
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#44 | red sox 777 | Posted 12/12/2011 12:20:02 PM | message detail
Patience, friends.
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#45 | The Mana Sword | Posted 12/12/2011 12:21:27 PM | message detail
give it up red sox, just move on to hyping link/cloud
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#46 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 12/12/2011 12:21:56 PM | message detail
Sora only need 124 hours to come back! Squall's lucky this isn't on GameSpot!
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#47 | izNotPerfect | Posted 12/12/2011 12:22:33 PM | message detail
lol Sora

just lol
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#48 | th3l3fty | Posted 12/12/2011 12:22:57 PM | message detail
I dunno guys

that 1 vote cut has me shaking in my boots
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#49 | red sox 777 | Posted 12/12/2011 12:24:04 PM | message detail
I've called big comebacks that everyone else was dismissive of at least once a contest since 2009, and this contest will be no exception.
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#50 | Kyle Bowen | Posted 12/12/2011 12:27:35 PM | message detail
58 vote cut!!!!!





in the past hour!!!!


GO SQUALL GO!
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