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#401 | AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 12/12/2011 5:27:18 AM | message detail
Damn, here I was thinking i'd wake up to an interesting match. lolnope.
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#402 | transcience | Posted 12/12/2011 5:36:18 AM | message detail
whelp, so much for an upset. 55 or so perfects will live on.

I'd be surprised if more than 5 people go with Samus. if Cloud can't do it, there will be at least 35 perfects.
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#403 | __Smurf__ | Posted 12/12/2011 5:43:39 AM | message detail
I presume there's no objections to labeling it as the worst contest ever?
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#404 | ZenOfThunder | Posted 12/12/2011 5:46:45 AM | message detail
I really didn't like Character Battle 2K4. The one where Link vs Ganondorf was second round. It was p bad.

...This might still be worse tho
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#405 | abdou | Posted 12/12/2011 5:48:28 AM | message detail
900 votes lead this really is boring at least I keep my perfect battle bracket

if Sora/Riku somehow come back and win though it would be easily the match of the contest
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#406 | transcience | Posted 12/12/2011 5:51:53 AM | message detail
it's villain contest tier for sure. I think this one is a little better due to having characters people care about but the contests are so stale that it almost doesn't matter. I think it's about time to retire these contests based on the utter lack of enthusiasm and interest level for even the regulars here.

remember when new people would show up and complain about the contests? Castlevania/KH, SSB/DQ, even Deus Ex/Rock Band? that barely happens anymore. I can go look at the front page and recognize 90% of the topic creators. we're this weird isolated group on the internet at this point, voting for our 90s relics and pretending that only 3 or 4 gaming companies exist.
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#407 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 12/12/2011 5:56:41 AM | message detail
If the rest of the contest goes cookie (a Link > Mario final) I could see an argument for it being worse than villains. If it doesn't, it's probably second or third worst.
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#408 | abdou | Posted 12/12/2011 5:58:07 AM | message detail
so? we are different. We don't have to be like GS or IGN

but I agree we should retire the contests for now, with the low interest shown and generally low votals and the LAW...they are not fun anymore.
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#409 | XIII_Lockes | Posted 12/12/2011 5:59:36 AM | message detail
The contests can still be revived. This format was always terrible and the bracket just buried the whole thing even further.

It's a broken record but all-fictional would get a big following, I think.
#410 | White_Tiger | Posted 12/12/2011 5:59:41 AM | message detail
Squall just buried the KH kids. I don't see a way for them to come back its over.
#411 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 12/12/2011 6:02:39 AM | message detail
I think it was Yo who said on the podcast that he wished SBA would just try things our way for once and that he'd probably be very happy with the results if he did.
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#412 | XIII_Lockes | Posted 12/12/2011 6:04:02 AM | message detail
Kotetsu534 posted...
If the rest of the contest goes cookie (a Link > Mario final) I could see an argument for it being worse than villains. If it doesn't, it's probably second or third worst.

Villains had one and a half utterly glorious days (and Revolver Ocelot in the quarter-finals) - CATS having the lead over Ansem and Master Hand > Kuja (IT'S A F***ING HAND!).

This has really had none; even Trainers > Fighters was semi-expected by the time the match started.
#413 | ExThaNemesis | Posted 12/12/2011 6:07:50 AM | message detail
sephiroth won, villains contest superior
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#414 | transcience | Posted 12/12/2011 6:13:17 AM | message detail
I don't think the contests can ever buzz like they did 5-6 years ago. their time is just past. Batman vs. Harry Potter is not going to bring thousands of people to the site.

thinking about it, the L-Block moment was both the best and worst thing. it was hugely exciting and also deflated everything going forward.

I feel like reading some of those stats topics now. they would lock in a matter of minutes. now? best match of the contest is going on right now and we can't even talk about it. yeah.
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#415 | The_Djoker | Posted 12/12/2011 6:21:23 AM | message detail
What if sephcloud beat link? The contest will gi from poor to a classic. I agree villain contest was crap but not as bad as all female all male contest
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#416 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/12/2011 6:21:30 AM | message detail
abdou | Posted 12/12/2011 8:58:07 AM | message detail | quote
but I agree we should retire the contests for now, with the low interest shown and generally low votals and the LAW...they are not fun anymore.


Low votals are mostly because site traffic is way down compared to just 2 years ago. I guess you could even blame the contest idea itself, because this contest has not had any noticeable boost in votals compared to our non-contest polls. Any boost would be very small at best.

Once this contest is over with, we'll see how the votals are doing on non-contest polls.
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#417 | transcience | Posted 12/12/2011 6:25:55 AM | message detail
Cloud winning doesn't really change anything. this is a contest tailor-made for them. if they can't win this one, they're never challenging Link again.
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#418 | __Smurf__ | Posted 12/12/2011 6:27:15 AM | message detail
Contest audience has deflated but it doesn't mean it can't still be enjoyed by its niche audience. The predominant problem with the rivalry contest was bracket placement and the extra 24h polls just extended the boredom.

Cancelling contests would suck since it would essentially eliminate the single reason I'd even consider visiting gamefaqs. The game of the decade contest was pretty enjoyable and that wasn't so long ago, a decent idea with some consideration to bracket placement and the contest still has legs to go for another few years. Would personally like to see another character battle, 12h format. I'm not big on trying to come up with gimmicks to help mask predictability, having people care about the outcome is much more important to a contest than adding artificial factors.
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#419 | __Smurf__ | Posted 12/12/2011 6:29:26 AM | message detail

From: The_Djoker | #415
What if sephcloud beat link? The contest will gi from poor to a classic.


It doesn't change a lot but it would give us some hope for competitiveness going ahead. If Link does win this which all signs indicate that he will and comfortably its difficult to see him displaced in the next few years which would be very unhealthy for a character battle.
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#420 | The Mana Sword | Posted 12/12/2011 6:32:53 AM | message detail
I don't agree that Link has this locked up quite yet. Obviously he goes in as the favorite, because it's Link, but Cloud/Seph have looked very good these past two rounds, and the format should favor them. It's definitely the best shot anyone's ever had at taking Link down.
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#421 | transcience | Posted 12/12/2011 6:33:52 AM | message detail
at some point, people are going to get sick of Link winning and vote against him consistently. problem is that the alternative is Cloud.
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#422 | GranzonEx | Posted 12/12/2011 6:34:01 AM | message detail
Their chances of challenging Link died a long long time ago. Their franchise is dead. When was the last time Cloud was the main character in a new FF?
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#423 | transcience | Posted 12/12/2011 6:35:14 AM | message detail
Link's looked even better. honestly, the Cloud hype feels more like hope and believe than anything based on reason.
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#424 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 12/12/2011 6:36:02 AM | message detail
This site is stuck in the past enough that it doesn't matter much. Chrono Trigger would lose to less than 10 games here.
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#425 | red sox 777 | Posted 12/12/2011 6:36:22 AM | message detail
Excellent use of the overnight vote, Squall.
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#426 | The_Djoker | Posted 12/12/2011 6:36:58 AM | message detail

From: __Smurf__ | #419
It doesn't change a lot but it would give us some hope for competitiveness going ahead. If Link does win this which all signs indicate that he will and comfortably its difficult to see him displaced in the next few years which would be very unhealthy for a character battle.


hope? nah. Link 1v1 against Cloud is still easy to predict. We've seen in THIS FORMAT and rivalry that 1v1 strength means nothing. Look how crap Samus is.

I agree this is the one contest Cloud/Seph should do their best against Link. IT will no way be a 53-47 match.
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#427 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 12/12/2011 6:37:01 AM | message detail
Yeah, Cloud/Seph have looked good, and I'd be hyping the upset if Link/Ganon had been looking off (like Link did against Thrall and Alucard in CBVIII) but instead they have looked amazing.
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#428 | Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 12/12/2011 6:37:39 AM | message detail
XIII_Lockes posted...
Kotetsu534 posted...
If the rest of the contest goes cookie (a Link > Mario final) I could see an argument for it being worse than villains. If it doesn't, it's probably second or third worst.

Villains had one and a half utterly glorious days (and Revolver Ocelot in the quarter-finals) - CATS having the lead over Ansem and Master Hand > Kuja (IT'S A F***ING HAND!).

This has really had none; even Trainers > Fighters was semi-expected by the time the match started.


I think part of the reason this contest is seen as more boring isn't the lack of upsets (still more upsets here than villains!) but the fact that Battle Brackets make it so that people are more willing to accept a late-contest upset as happening, and are less surprised by it. While before if it was a late round upset, people would be more likely to try and "stick to their guns" in order to maintain faith in their bracket.

Thinking about it, a lot of the recent contest malaise can be attributed to the battle challenge suprisingly enough. If their was no battle bracket, people would have been more likely to stick with Ryu/Ken over Trainers, and came up with more excuses to explain the results we've seen.

Just my $0.02
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#429 | charmander6000 | Posted 12/12/2011 6:38:57 AM | message detail
The format was fine for a one time off thing, but the bracket wasn't. We could have a boring 1v1 bracket too (2k4)
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#430 | The_Djoker | Posted 12/12/2011 6:39:43 AM | message detail

From: transcience | #423
Link's looked even better. honestly, the Cloud hype feels more like hope and believe than anything based on reason.


The reason that Seph is with him? Seph is the strongest 2nd Rival in this contest by a mile(if you get every other half of the main characters). IT does count for something. Of course there's hope and belief but if he does pull it off...if Cloud DOES win...then he owes a lot to Seph for the victory.
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#431 | The Mana Sword | Posted 12/12/2011 6:39:47 AM | message detail
The battle bracket has nothing to do with this.
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#432 | red sox 777 | Posted 12/12/2011 6:40:04 AM | message detail
Past trends are still showing a Sora win, however. Sora gained 2.85% on Squall from here to the end the last time they met. ASV is weaker now, so this could be pretty interesting.
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#433 | __Smurf__ | Posted 12/12/2011 6:42:06 AM | message detail

From: The Mana Sword | #420
I don't agree that Link has this locked up quite yet. Obviously he goes in as the favorite, because it's Link, but Cloud/Seph have looked very good these past two rounds, and the format should favor them. It's definitely the best shot anyone's ever had at taking Link down.


Against two predominant playstation teams. I know people like to pretend that this isn't a factor but there's such a long history of weirdness in all PS matches that its difficult to ignore. That's certainly what I'm chalking the Kratos and Snakes overperformances down to, I expected a 53/47 win to Link at the start of the contest and I'd swell that to 56/44 from what I've seen. Those amaterasu and MegaMan wins were just absolutely brutal. To triple a nobler who he was only doubling in one of his strongest years? Mario v Cloud I think could have been a legitimately interesting match, shame we won't see it.
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#434 | AsurasKordoth | Posted 12/12/2011 6:42:08 AM | message detail
It's still too early to call it; Sora has a decent chance to make a comeback here. ASV powers activate!
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#435 | charmander6000 | Posted 12/12/2011 6:44:00 AM | message detail
ASV isn't for about 5 hours, Sora needs to be stalling now.
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#436 | red sox 777 | Posted 12/12/2011 6:45:10 AM | message detail
Sora's not going to stall until the ASV. Then he will cut, and cut pretty hard.
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#437 | spooky96 | Posted 12/12/2011 6:46:05 AM | message detail
Sora won't make it....Squall win win for SURE...
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#438 | Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 12/12/2011 6:46:07 AM | message detail
This is over. 1,000 votes, with a few more hours of Squall time. Even if Sora can swing it with the ASV (doubtful), the SNV should go to Squall as well.
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#439 | The Mana Sword | Posted 12/12/2011 6:46:13 AM | message detail
To triple a nobler who he was only doubling in one of his strongest years?

Smurf you're doing it wrong, you're supposed to discredit Mega Man at every turn.

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#440 | The_Djoker | Posted 12/12/2011 6:50:09 AM | message detail

From: Kotetsu534 | #427
Yeah, Cloud/Seph have looked good, and I'd be hyping the upset if Link/Ganon had been looking off (like Link did against Thrall and Alucard in CBVIII) but instead they have looked amazing.


They haven't looked that amazing. Beating Kratos by almost 77% and then handing Snakes a 62% is monstrous Alucard is going to do a lot worse than friggin Megaman. 83% for what is imo almost fodder rivalry and an SFF beatdown isn't that much more impressive than what Clouderoth have done.
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#441 | The_Djoker | Posted 12/12/2011 6:53:34 AM | message detail

From: __Smurf__ | #433
Against two predominant playstation teams. I know people like to pretend that this isn't a factor but there's such a long history of weirdness in all PS matches that its difficult to ignore. That's certainly what I'm chalking the Kratos and Snakes overperformances down to, I expected a 53/47 win to Link at the start of the contest and I'd swell that to 56/44 from what I've seen. Those amaterasu and MegaMan wins were just absolutely brutal. To triple a nobler who he was only doubling in one of his strongest years? Mario v Cloud I think could have been a legitimately interesting match, shame we won't see it.


Link doesn't go anywhere near 56% I'm sorry that's just fanboy talk.
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#442 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/12/2011 6:59:24 AM | message detail
Hey, my 5 minute prediction might hold true after all.
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#443 | The_Djoker | Posted 12/12/2011 7:05:55 AM | message detail | (edited)
In all honesty...Squall/Seifer just look crap here. I think we can all understand now why Seifer was never in any Contests. Noone cares about him. At least he'll do the honorable thing and absolutely bend down to Clourdeoth next match. It's going to be a very very ugly SFF beating.

EDIT Sora just cut. You can't cut anything with a Keyblade you foollish child. Put that thing away.
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#446 | Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 12/12/2011 7:37:10 AM | message detail
The_Djoker posted...
In all honesty...Squall/Seifer just look crap here. I think we can all understand now why Seifer was never in any Contests. Noone cares about him. At least he'll do the honorable thing and absolutely bend down to Clourdeoth next match. It's going to be a very very ugly SFF beating.

EDIT Sora just cut. You can't cut anything with a Keyblade you foollish child. Put that thing away.


This isn't too far from previous Squall/Sora results, and the difference can be attributed to the strength difference between Seifer and Riku. Not really a surprising result at all.
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#447 | The_Djoker | Posted 12/12/2011 7:43:58 AM | message detail
yeah you're right it is expected and i expected this to be close, wasn't going to listen to those peopel who thought it would be 56%+. But he and seifer still look crap. Squall on his own has respectable strength.
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#448 | Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 12/12/2011 7:47:14 AM | message detail
Well Squall did it.Who was expecting the match to be that close?Nice though.
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#449 | RottingToe | Posted 12/12/2011 8:03:03 AM | message detail
Stall. Just stall please.
The ASV won't matter if Squall gains anymore. Stall pleeeease.

Well, it was nice being on the leaderboard two days in a row...
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#450 | __Smurf__ | Posted 12/12/2011 8:04:14 AM | message detail

From: The Mana Sword | #439
To triple a nobler who he was only doubling in one of his strongest years?

Smurf you're doing it wrong, you're supposed to discredit Mega Man at every turn.

Have you forgotten your roots?


Of course not.

Its cloaked discrediting y'see, I counter someone talking up the prospects of Cloud by embellishing Link's destruction of Mega Man leaving the recipient with the choice of abandoning their Cloud winning argument (never happens on the internet) or attempting to pick holes in my counter which in this case would leave them with no alternative but to belittle the strength of Mega Man. At which point I u-turn and agree with them that Mega Man is crap thus doubling the threads MM trash talk output.

I've developed new Mega Man discrediting technology.
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