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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1034
Squall gonna force his way! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZMWszd5SRk --- Praise the Black Turtle, Game of the Decade Guru Champ. (Well, I never promised creativity, did I?!) |
From: GrapefruitKing | #159 No one respects the LAW more than me. How often do I say things like BOW DOWN TO THE EIGHT TIME CHAMP!!!. And my blood literally boils when thinking about the cheating of L Block*, or that a Wind Waker picture was the only reason he lost in 03. (**** all L Block* voters) I hope I'm wrong, and I would never say flat out that Link would lose, but I feel right now, after this match, there is just no way to not think Cloud and Seph are going to do this. If you want to claim second character stength matters, then you are looking at like the 20th strongest character on this site vs the third. If you want to say rivalry matters, then you are looking at a really good rivalry across many games, vs one of the best rivalries in the contest. At this current juncture, unless Link and Cloud are so big compared to everyone else (totally possible by the way) that the match still becomes Link vs Cloud part 11, I don't see how Link overcomes this. --- From: Regaro_Ukiera | MWC is god-tier |
So assuming Sora/Riku do win how many perfect battle brackets are left tomorrow? Think we'll still have 10 or so? Or even less? --- Starcraft is my life, so without it I wouldn't exist. - Artosis |
From: Team Rocket Elite | #903 Thanks. I saw those though, I think they are unadjusted. From: LeonhartFour | #909 Because I was looking and I think I have some stuff wrong. For instance your adjustment explanation says "Didn't like where Kratos was, so I bumped him down just a little below Sora arbitrarily, admittedly" but the adjusted value for Kratos is much higher than Sora. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
Yeah, Battle Brackets will get wrecked by this result if it holds. --- http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/8718/leonflowchart.png |
From: creativename | #204 Oh? Hmm. I'll see if I can scrounge them up. --- "Hold on a minute! That testimony stinks!" "Witness! You can't just say 'Hello' and expect us to get anywhere! I want you to testify!" |
Just got home and LMFAO My expanded thoughts in a few minutes. --- Yoblazer: http://i32.tinypic.com/zlf1w7.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
Squall is at 66% in Europe. If that holds up, Sora's in for a world of hurt in a few hours. --- 2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud. Link 6, Cloud 2 |
Oh my goodness what is happening. My heart goes out to those perfect battle brackets if this result holds. --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/ExTha/10and14.jpg "I was wrong." - SmartMuffin |
Forza Sora/Riku: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajZhlZzHWhk (Forza del male) --- Praise the Black Turtle, Game of the Decade Guru Champ. (Well, I never promised creativity, did I?!) |
This is all somehow Leon's fault. --- "Eet's game time..." |
Well maybe banking on the Trainers vs Fighters match wasn't such a bad idea after all. --- Only on GameFAQs would criticallly acclaimed PC games lose to niche JRPGs Go Us! |
Yeah this upset would be totally out of left field. This match was like not discussed at all. It would be like Magus/Knuckles. Everyone was talking about how such and such reach upset pick might ruin the cookie cutter brackets, but it certainly wasn't this match. And people are talking about Squall getting a lead, he should do well overnight and with the DSV, but if he's already losing now I don't like his chances. The KH ASV and SNV are too good. And the Power Hour shouldn't really favor either side, so Sora winning right now is a good sign for him. However, there's a long way to go so who knows. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
This
just makes absolutely zero sense. There's no way that Riku helps close
the gap that Squall has repeatedly displayed on Sora. --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/ExTha/10and14.jpg "I was wrong." - SmartMuffin |
Honestly, this match isn't over. Squall still has a good chance of coming back and winning this fairly comfortably. But this result will pretty much be the death knell of getting any other FFVIII characters into 1-on-1 contests, so this match sucks immeasurably. --- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." |
From: WhiteLens | #212 Yeah, banking right before this probably won you prizes. --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/ExTha/10and14.jpg "I was wrong." - SmartMuffin |
First proper update win for Squall. --- Praise the Black Turtle, Game of the Decade Guru Champ. (Well, I never promised creativity, did I?!) |
From: ExThaNemesis | #214 This isn't a 1-on-1 contest. Don't look at it that way. --- http://i43.tinypic.com/dgwh0.gif http://www.majhost.com/gallery/atukam/OHWD/snownd.gif |
From: ExThaNemesis | #216 I banked on Frog Alucard. --- From: Regaro_Ukiera | MWC is god-tier |
Squall is doing his best to keep the lead from growing out of control here. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as BlAcK TuRtLe, Guru Champ! |
51-49 isn't really that much of a gap (I know Cloud SFFs Squall more than Sora but not that much more). --- Starcraft is my life, so without it I wouldn't exist. - Artosis |
Hey, I'm still up for Laguna! No one else though. --- Praise the Black Turtle, Game of the Decade Guru Champ. (Well, I never promised creativity, did I?!) |
From: Kotetsu534 | #217 Nah, he won the 15 minute update. --- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." |
I guess Riku is just way stronger than Seifer. --- 2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud. Link 6, Cloud 2 |
He did (also the 31 minutes one), but not by more than 10 votes. --- Praise the Black Turtle, Game of the Decade Guru Champ. (Well, I never promised creativity, did I?!) |
From: red sox 777 | #224 It doesn't even matter if he is. Meta Knight would beat Robotnik very, very easily. --- http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2011/8/22/2094c2de-bae8-4f5b-9f27-67eaff0aaeaf.jpg |
Pre-contest,
this upset didn't seem bad at all - not that Squall/Seifer's a bad
rivalry, but Sora/Riku a rivalry that (sort of) spans multiple games and
features two characters which have been established to at least not
suck. I took it and felt pretty good until the KH pair started actually
having matches. --- Fight like dragons, have no fear, swords are made of STEEEEEEEEL~ |
There
wasn't anything obvious going against Sora in this match and he got
destroyed by Squall (unless you think Sonic overlaps with him): http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2918 --- Praise the Black Turtle, Game of the Decade Guru Champ. (Well, I never promised creativity, did I?!) |
Or
Sora/Riku is a better (meaning more appealing to voters) rivalry then
Squall/Seifer. One of those. Riku being stronger than Seifer feels
more likely to me. --- 2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud. Link 6, Cloud 2 |
It
probably helps that Sora and Riku have cool boss fights with each
other. I might not care for KH that much, but I can see the appeal of
Sora/Riku as rivals. Oh well. --- Praise the Black Turtle, Game of the Decade Guru Champ. (Well, I never promised creativity, did I?!) |
From: ExThaNemesis | #1054 The gap wasn't that large though. As I said on the first page of this topic: In 4-ways, Sora got 48.17% on Squall, then 48.99% when Cloud was added in. In my hyper-adjusted x-stats Sora is projected to get 46.63% on Squall. Now many suspect Sora has gotten weaker since then, however Riku should be stronger than Seifer. So Squall should get between 52%-53% on Sora 1v1 based on prior results. That's not a big gap. It's why I was so surprised people were going over 55% for Squall here. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
From: Kotetsu534 | #228 Squall Leonhart 50.00% Sora 48.17% Yoshi 42.42% Fox McCloud 38.13% Year later. No overlap with any of those characters. Much more relevant. --- Starcraft is my life, so without it I wouldn't exist. - Artosis |
Riku is probably stronger than Seifer. But these results aren't 1-on-1 correlations, so they shouldn't be treated that way. --- http://i52.tinypic.com/2zfiu09.gif http://i54.tinypic.com/10729w2.gif |
Also known as "Smilin' Squall" >.> --- Praise the Black Turtle, Game of the Decade Guru Champ. (Well, I never promised creativity, did I?!) |
here comes the comeback come on Squall. --- For your BlAcK TuRtLe. At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza |
So, crisis averted? --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´ This poll confirms what we knew all along: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3990 |
So
Squall should get between 52%-53% on Sora 1v1 based on prior results.
That's not a big gap. It's why I was so surprised people were going over
55% for Squall here. Part of it was that I expected SFF, and part of it is that Sora went from 56% on Yoshi to 47% on Bowser from 2008 to 2010, a pretty big difference. --- 2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud. Link 6, Cloud 2 |
From: UltimaterializerX | #237 Eh, there wasn't much reason to have a crisis unless Sora was up like 55/45 at the end of the hour or something. Squall was going to come back and take the lead eventually. Match is still up for grabs overall though, just depends on what Squall can do before the ASV. --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
From: red sox 777 | #238 You can blame Fox for that. Or just blame Yoshi for looking like complete and utter crap that year. --- http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/2369/mythbattlers.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/Sensui22/1248835958206.png |
Riku is probably stronger than Seifer. But these results aren't 1-on-1 correlations, so they shouldn't be treated that way. If we don't have a better, alternative, way to think about them, of course we're going to use the tools we have. I think people are pretty well aware that this format doesn't line up exactly with 1v1. --- 2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud. Link 6, Cloud 2 |
From: Kotetsu534 | #1108 That was in 2K7. Sora and Squall were both together again in 2K8 and it was much closer. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
From: red sox 777 | #241 People seem puzzled by some of these percentages because it doesn't line up with 1-on-1 results, so I'm not sure I agree with that. --- http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/2369/mythbattlers.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/Sensui22/1248835958206.png |
UltimaterializerX posted... So, crisis averted? Lets not say things like "crisis averted" until the crisis is actually averted. --- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/2bigwigpngut.png |
Yeah.
I'm convinced that the board has enough sway in close matches with
these lowered vote totals that it's literally impossible for the
underdog to win in a close one unless the underdog is Pokemon or
something. I'm also convinced that against Squall Sora's strongest time
is now. So yeah Squall should have this. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
Squall is terrible and all. Normally I'd be A-Okay with him choking it up. But it's against Kingdom Hearts... I'd root for his sorry ass over these girls. --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/ExTha/10and14.jpg "I was wrong." - SmartMuffin |
From: creativename | #231 I just assumed Sora < Dante because Riku > Vergil. And my Squall estimate was higher than your stats, though I'm not really sure why, I've overestimated Squall every round this contest. |
Yeah I knew there was something wrong with 68% on guys that can only make contests that are 4-ways. Also Kingdom Hearts basically has its own Power Hour, jesus. --- "Ovelia ... SPOILERS IN THE KEYWORDS WOOPS" - Vormav |
Lionheart --- wat |