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#51 | The_Djoker | Posted 12/11/2011 1:47:30 PM | message detail
For that to be effective the opponent needs to be as strong or almost as strong as the characters in the first place. Mario/Bowser are no way near Clouderoth. Even if they were..if he beat Link logic says he beats Mario with absolute Ease.

The only other possible way Cloud loses is if some bandwagon happens and Trainers end up winning the damn thing due to rallying. But that won't happen either.

The only thing that can beat FF on this site with(and without) rallying is Zelda(See MM>FFX). Pokemon ultimately could not do it,(see Seph>Missingno)
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#52 | Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 12/11/2011 1:51:45 PM | message detail
What?

Squall/Seifer is a good rivalry, and they're excellent foils.


I meant in terms of voting them over Cloud/Sephiroth.

I'd vote Squall over either, but their rivalry is nothing in comparison.
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#53 | The_Djoker | Posted 12/11/2011 1:58:23 PM | message detail
#54 | The_Djoker | Posted 12/11/2011 2:02:11 PM | message detail
#55 | abdou | Posted 12/11/2011 2:12:46 PM | message detail | (edited)
I have been waiting for that 62% since the morning, now I hope it stays .

Edit: and its back to 61.99 -_-
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#56 | Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 12/11/2011 2:34:02 PM | message detail
The only bad thing about this result is that Crono will end looking weak...
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#57 | The_Djoker | Posted 12/11/2011 2:35:58 PM | message detail
At least he'll look weak Indirectly through X stats. If he was in this match it would be embarrassing
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#58 | junk_funk | Posted 12/11/2011 2:39:00 PM | message detail
Sora is a step below Bowser, Ganon, Vincent, Auron, and Squall. I'd expect him to get 55% on all of them. Add SFF and I'll give Squall a 58% any day. Which is what I'm predicting.
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#59 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 12/11/2011 2:45:32 PM | message detail
The lowest % Solid Snake had ever ended up with in a 1v1 poll before this match was 42.79% against Mario in 2k5.
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#60 | The_Djoker | Posted 12/11/2011 2:53:23 PM | message detail

From: Kotetsu534 | #059
The lowest % Solid Snake had ever ended up with in a 1v1 poll before this match was 42.79% against Mario in 2k5.


Which proves the Rivalry Factor is quite significant in terms of actual %'s. Snake beats Seph still and loses to Cloud. Liquid is not even Mid carder is he.
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#61 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 12/11/2011 2:57:04 PM | message detail
Liquid is whatever strength he wants to be at the time. >_>
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#62 | AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 12/11/2011 3:14:34 PM | message detail

From: AxemRedRanger | #061
Liquid is whatever strength he wants to be at the time. >_>


Liquid's strength is fluid?
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#63 | Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 12/11/2011 3:58:36 PM | message detail
It looks like it will end with less than 62%.Well too bad.
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#64 | abdou | Posted 12/11/2011 4:05:28 PM | message detail
well he might still get the 62% . This is very good performance though
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#65 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 12/11/2011 4:39:52 PM | message detail
I have Sora/Riku in my bracket and Squall/Seifer in the battle entry. I'm on the leaderboard for both so either way I should be good.
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#66 | abdou | Posted 12/11/2011 4:42:44 PM | message detail
This should be an easy win for Squall.
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#67 | __Smurf__ | Posted 12/11/2011 5:18:07 PM | message detail
Could see Squall/Seifer embarrassing them tbh.
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#68 | charmander6000 | Posted 12/11/2011 6:57:52 PM | message detail
Match LVI: (1) Squall Leonhart/Seifer Almasy vs. (2) Sora/Riku

Previous Round

Squall Leonhart/Seifer Almasy – 66.76%
Siegfried Schtauffen/Nightmare – 33.24%

Dante/Vergil – 49.15%
Sora/Riku – 50.85%

Analysis

Sora and Riku were able to use the morning vote to pull away from Dante and Vergil while Squall and Seifer had a clean doubling against Siegfried and Nightmare. At the beginning of the contest I thought an upset would be likely here, but now I don’t really see it happening. Sora and Riku needed to win by more while Squall and Seifer showed no signs of being weak.

While people have questioned Seifer’s strength and how much he brings to the group the last two rounds have been expected performances by Squall. Some people see the performance against Siegfried and Nightmare as a bit of a disappointment, but Nightmare has shown in the past to have strength. Sora and Riku on the other hand have the advantage of probably having a stronger second character, but that barely helped them against Dante and Vergil last round.

While I would still question Seifer’s strength should he ever make a contest the pair has shown to have strength. Some people have suggested that Squall and Seifer may be weaker in this format because Squall gets a large portion of his strength from Kingdom Hearts and the rivalry between him and Seifer is non-existent in that game, but had that been true Squall would have looked badly in the past two rounds. Their potential for SFF in this match, but I feel Sora and Riku will hold it off fairly well.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Sora/Riku > Squall Leonhart/Seifer Almasy

charmander6000’s Prediction: Squall Leonhart/Seifer Almasy wins, 54.84% - 45.16%
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#69 | GranzonEx | Posted 12/11/2011 7:32:41 PM | message detail
These are some decent votals. I might consider them for the upset if I was certain it was all Cloud and Sephiroth drawing the votes and not because the twin Snakes are rallying.
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#70 | GranzonEx | Posted 12/11/2011 7:34:05 PM | message detail
On second thought they might just be equal to the Trainers. They might pass them in votals.
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#71 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/11/2011 7:59:01 PM | message detail
^ Nah, it should fall short of the Trainers in votals.
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#72 | MoogleKupo141 | Posted 12/11/2011 8:35:23 PM | message detail
I'm so tempted to switch to Sora. This perfect bracket is too much pressure.
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#73 | abdou | Posted 12/11/2011 8:37:25 PM | message detail
I am very confident in Squall winning.
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#74 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/11/2011 9:01:15 PM | message detail
Vote Accepted

Squall Leonhart vs. Seifer Almasy 63.64% 7
Sora vs. Riku 36.36% 4
TOTAL VOTES 11
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#75 | red sox 777 | Posted 12/11/2011 9:01:37 PM | message detail
Whoa.
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#76 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/11/2011 9:01:45 PM | message detail
79.76% for Cloud/Sephy
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#77 | JJH777 | Posted 12/11/2011 9:01:45 PM | message detail
Omg Sora/Riku got this board vote def favors Squall right?
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#78 | FateStayAlbion | Posted 12/11/2011 9:01:46 PM | message detail
#79 | th3l3fty | Posted 12/11/2011 9:01:46 PM | message detail
uh-oh
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#80 | abdou | Posted 12/11/2011 9:01:54 PM | message detail
uh...bye perfect battle bracket ?
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#81 | GrapefruitKing | Posted 12/11/2011 9:02:11 PM | message detail
oh man, if this match kills all battle brackets it'll be hilarious
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#82 | charmander6000 | Posted 12/11/2011 9:02:14 PM | message detail
Oh wow can Sora and Riku do it?
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Rivalry Rumble: 73/88 Today: Cloud/Sephiroth
#83 | LOLContests | Posted 12/11/2011 9:02:20 PM | message detail
Fall fall perfect battles! Right into my trap! Leaderboard here I come!
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#84 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/11/2011 9:02:22 PM | message detail
Yeah, I'm not too worried about losing the board vote here, honestly, even if they're down at the freeze.
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#85 | SubDeity | Posted 12/11/2011 9:02:36 PM | message detail
LMAO
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#86 | _Regaro_ | Posted 12/11/2011 9:02:41 PM | message detail
well this is good for my regular bracket at least
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#87 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/11/2011 9:02:59 PM | message detail
This is the third time we've seen FFVIII have a terrible board vote.

This will probably end up like 53/47 or something.
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#88 | GrapefruitKing | Posted 12/11/2011 9:03:05 PM | message detail
past 54% already....
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#89 | red sox 777 | Posted 12/11/2011 9:03:07 PM | message detail
53% now. Only 23 votes though.
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#90 | FateStayAlbion | Posted 12/11/2011 9:03:12 PM | message detail
Well, Sora is up to 54% now. I think this is over, since I can't see KH having that much better of a board vote, plus Squall should have brackets
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#91 | BrettEagles | Posted 12/11/2011 9:03:14 PM | message detail
#92 | hylianknight3 | Posted 12/11/2011 9:03:15 PM | message detail
I need this ill-conceived upset to go through if I am to stand a chance of winning. >_>
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#93 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/11/2011 9:03:19 PM | message detail
The night vote will be brutal towards Sora/Riku later tonight.
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#94 | Ngamer64 | Posted 12/11/2011 9:03:20 PM | message detail
UH OH, Leon must be freaking out right now!
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#95 | MoogleKupo141 | Posted 12/11/2011 9:03:20 PM | message detail
I ****ing knew it , but I was too nervous to pull he trigger.

**** **** ****
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#96 | transience | Posted 12/11/2011 9:03:33 PM | message detail
man, I knew I should have followed my own advice and banked

oh well, first in the Guru until Samus loses!
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#97 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/11/2011 9:03:37 PM | message detail

From: Ngamer64 | #094
UH OH, Leon must be freaking out right now!


Guess again.
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#98 | abdou | Posted 12/11/2011 9:03:45 PM | message detail
lol this is the match I lose my perfect streak lol
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#99 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/11/2011 9:04:00 PM | message detail
Squall is roaring back again.
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#100 | FateStayAlbion | Posted 12/11/2011 9:04:12 PM | message detail