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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1033
FFVII's match has more votes at the end of the first hour than Link's did. Take that, fairy boy --- http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/2369/mythbattlers.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/Sensui22/1248835958206.png |
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JJH777 posted... From: Karma Hunter | #395 I'll believe Skyward Sword is juicing Link when I see it. I remember Twilight Princess hype very well and, Senator Skyward Sword, you're no Twilight Princess. Well Link did do 10 percent better than what last years stats would predict on Amaterasu and if anything the stats should be skewed to make Link look stronger than he really is unless you think there is more Link/Ammy sff than Link/Luigi sff. I give Ganondorf a hard time, but he does add to Link. People do care about the Link/Ganon rivalry. Amaterasu versus Orochi what. I'd tout his victory over Mega Man more (which is legitimately more impressive, even gauging for SFF). But Cloud/Seph have also done waaaaaaay over what stats would say. They're not that helpful here. --- http://i48.tinypic.com/1ryijd.jpg http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
Cloud/Seph vs Link/Ganon would be a 47~48% votes for Cloud/Seph and around 52~53% votes for Link/Ganon --- ... |
Unless
you want to say Cloud is doing 10% better on Snake than he did directly
last year because of Advent Children Complete being released on
Blu-Ray. ! --- I wish I could wear skirts and dresses :( -GMUN |
Blu-RayFEAR. Cloud comin --- :> |
I
think Link/Ammy should be more direct than Cloud/Snakes though. I think
Snake owes a large amount of his strength to brawl which this rivalry
doesn't really benefit from. I assume the people who normally vote for
Ammy know who Orochi is. Also don't forget all the MGS games went
completely even with Sotc in between these contests. As for Cloud doing better than the stats would predict on the Kratos/Zeus match Kratos last year is based on getting 45% against Charizard who later got 47% on mario. I think he obviously got stronger inbetween rounds + HG/SS are the best Pokemon games and they had just come out. --- Starcraft is my life, so without it I wouldn't exist. - Artosis |
I
feel like Snake's real rival is Ocelot. So if it was Snake vs Ocelot I
think that would have a chance to beat out Cloud vs Sephiroth. What do you think? --- Am I not destroying my enemies when I make friends of them? |
From: WiseElder | #407 Ocelot did go even with red last year! --- Starcraft is my life, so without it I wouldn't exist. - Artosis |
LeonhartFour posted... From: JJH777 | #398 Well Link did do 10 percent better than what last years stats would predict on Amaterasu That's because this isn't a 1-on-1 contest. Unless you want to say Cloud is doing 10% better on Snake than he did directly last year because of Advent Children Complete being released on Blu-Ray. .. ACC Blu-Ray boost confirmed !! --- Do not pray for easier lives. Pray to be stronger men. - John F. Kennedy |
From: JJH777 | #406 Doesn't mean they care about Orochi or the rivalry they have! And while Snake/Ocelot is a better rivalry than Solid/Liquid, it'd probably be doing worse here, sadly. --- "I can set you free, mate." "My freedom was forfeit long ago!" |
I
feel like Snake's real rival is Ocelot. So if it was Snake vs Ocelot I
think that would have a chance to beat out Cloud vs Sephiroth. I seriously doubt it. Changing Liquid to Ocelot isn't going to close a gap of this size. --- Pokemon VGC2011 US Nationals - 54th place Pokemon VGC2012 NW Regional - 16th place |
Does
anyone think Pokemon's strength increased? Missingno got a 47 against
Sephiroth and Charizard got a 47 on Mario if I'm not mistaken. So are
Red/Blue stronger this year? What do you think about their match for
Mario/Bowser? Or rather what do you think about trainers getting through
Samus? 58% + votes for trainers against samus? --- ... |
Snakes stalling hard now --- http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/31/f53sle_2.gif brawl 3524 9730 2525 - LALA |
Yesterday's chart: Time | Aludrac | Frogus | Votes | Demographic EBV | 54.18% | 45.82% | 622 | (0:00-0:05) PHV | 53.23% | 46.77% | 4278 | (0:00-1:00) FNV | 53.09% | 46.91% | 13886 | (1:00-6:00) BSV | 54.03% | 45.97% | 4688 | (6:00-9:00) DSV | 53.86% | 46.14% | 12580 | (9:00-14:30) ASV | 52.50% | 47.50% | 12520 | (14:30-22:00) SNV | 53.35% | 46.65% | 2450 | (22:00-24:00) Frog/Magus actually do better the second half of the match than the first. --- http://i.imgur.com/fe05x.png http://i.imgur.com/stNJf.png |
Calling
Snake's rivalry gimped because of Liquid doesn't cut it, I think, even
if you want to make a stretch of an argument that Brawl fans are now
abandoning him because of this weird other Snake in the match. MGS has
some real bite in this contest; just look at what Big Boss/The Boss did
to Samus. Seph is just that much stronger than Liquid. Snake did about as expected on Crono despite a non-trivial pic disadvantage, and the only other match we have besides this one is a monstrous pic disadvantage to Pac-Man. He's looking underwhelming now, but people called the MGSes underwhelming in the GotD contest when they went out to Majora's Mask... which then won the contest and made them look great in the process. If Cloud/Seph are on Link's level, this isn't a bad performance. --- http://i48.tinypic.com/1ryijd.jpg http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
Yeah, those gains couldn't continue forever. I was amazed the other shoe didn't drop for as long as that. --- 2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud. Link 6, Cloud 2 |
spooky96 posted... Does anyone think Pokemon's strength increased? Missingno got a 47 against Sephiroth and Charizard got a 47 on Mario if I'm not mistaken. So are Red/Blue stronger this year? What do you think about their match for Mario/Bowser? Or rather what do you think about trainers getting through Samus? 58% + votes for trainers against samus? They got a shot but mario tends to ssf all nintendo but link --- http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/31/f53sle_2.gif brawl 3524 9730 2525 - LALA |
FF7 power hour must be over. --- I wish I could wear skirts and dresses :( -GMUN |
Well, MGS is still pretty strong as a whole. I didn't really buy into all the "MGS looks terrible" stuff from GOTD, personally. But I think no Brawl does hurt Snake, even if it's just a little. We'll see what happens in Squall/Sora tomorrow. --- "The great GF...Bahamut." "...GF? I...? Using my powers...It is you humans...I fear..." |
Does
anyone think Pokemon's strength increased? Missingno got a 47 against
Sephiroth and Charizard got a 47 on Mario if I'm not mistaken. So are
Red/Blue stronger this year? What do you think about their match for
Mario/Bowser? Or rather what do you think about trainers getting through
Samus? 58% + votes for trainers against samus? Red's poor solo performance was in the same contest that Missingno. and Charizard went on a tear in so those runs can't imply a boost for Red. It's hard to believe Red/Blue as a combination are so much stronger than their individual strengths but it might be true. There's a possibility that Red got screwed by having his SSBB artwork instead of his more recognizable RBY artwork or sprite. Mario/Bowser are still likely out of Red/Blue's league. I'd say Red/Blue will clear 60% on Samus/Ridley. --- Pokemon VGC2011 US Nationals - 54th place Pokemon VGC2012 NW Regional - 16th place |
Well
I of course don't actually think SS is boosting them 10%. Maybe like
3-4% from SS then a bit of rivalry factor and the rest Orochi sucking. I
just don't see a well received Zelda game coming out recently not
giving Link a noticeable boost. Then this can be mostly losing Brawl
supporters a little bit rivalry factor and then the rest can be
Sephiroth/Liquid being added to the poll. --- Starcraft is my life, so without it I wouldn't exist. - Artosis |
I don't know how Skyward Sword helps the Link/Ganon rivalry...! --- http://i52.tinypic.com/2zfiu09.gif http://i54.tinypic.com/10729w2.gif |
SS
probably is giving a boost, but it's awfully hard to boost a character
as strong as Link. We can have earthshattering changes down below, and
Link vs. Cloud will budge by 1-2%. --- 2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud. Link 6, Cloud 2 |
LeonhartFour posted... I don't know how Skyward Sword helps the Link/Ganon rivalry...! I think it helps at least Link, which would indirectly some how should give a terribly small amount of boost to Link vs Ganon rivalry --- ... |
Skyward sword boosts Link's strength. This gives Ganondorf more power to leech from and thus becomes stronger as well. --- Pokemon VGC2011 US Nationals - 54th place Pokemon VGC2012 NW Regional - 16th place |
46.5% was always all but guaranteed IMO. There is no conceivable way adding Sephiroth and Ganondorf to the mix helps Link. If it makes people think of a bunch of Zelda games compared to just FF7. I don't expect Cloud / Seph to get blown out but there is no guarantee of 46.5%. --- "Ovelia ... SPOILERS IN THE KEYWORDS WOOPS" - Vormav |
why are we even talking about this it's obvious cloud/seph are losing to trainers |
60% barrier erected --- thelefty for analysis crew 2008 imo -tranny I have a third degree burn in flame-o-nomics -Sir Chris |
Link/Ganondorf vs Cloud/Sephiroth is before Cloud/Sephiroth can face Red/Blue. --- Pokemon VGC2011 US Nationals - 54th place Pokemon VGC2012 NW Regional - 16th place |
Looks like Cloud/Seph had a lot of trouble that second hour and aren't going to make it to 60% by 2 AM after all. --- 2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud. Link 6, Cloud 2 |
Soon
enough. Looking at last year, Cloud gained about 3% from this point to
the end, so that would bring Cloud/Seph up to around 63% tonight. --- 2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud. Link 6, Cloud 2 |
Yeah, the end result won't be 60. It'll be 57-59 --- ... |
question. trainers vs snakes? --- ------ --------- |
Nothing surprising here! Cloud puttin' a hurt on Snake. --- "When I was a young man, I had liberty, but I did not see it. I had time, but I did not know it." |
Neosadus posted... question. trainers vs snakes? Snakes. --- ... |
Interesting,
I think I'd go with the Trainers at this point. They did better on
Ryu/Ken than the Snakes did on Crono/Lavos, and as much as I hate to say
it, Ryu/Ken probably beat Crono/Lavos in this format. --- 2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud. Link 6, Cloud 2 |
what i was thinking red --- ------ --------- |
From: Neosadus | #435 There is no question. They are about to plow the fourth strongest member on this site. A member who torches Snake by the way. They might take out "It's freakin Mario". (Who would SFF destroy Snake) As individual characters, I would only take Link, Cloud, Seph over Red vs Blue. I think they are stronger than Mario, but like the Mario Samus situation, Mario would SFF them too much. --- From: Regaro_Ukiera | MWC is god-tier |
I'd
go Trainers, though they will probably end up below the Snakes in the
x-stats. Link > Cloud > Snake should end up higher than Link >
Mario > Trainers. --- "Ovelia ... SPOILERS IN THE KEYWORDS WOOPS" - Vormav |
I think they are stronger than Mario, but like the Mario Samus situation, Mario would SFF them too much. The more I look at Mario/Charizard the more I think this is possible. Charizard put up 46% on Mario....he avoided the SFF and put up a very strong score. Red vs. Blue should be a much stronger Pokemon entrant than Charizard, and I'm still not convinced Mario vs. Bowser is so great a rivalry. Yes, it is iconic. But this isn't series, and iconicness takes a back seat to the inherent quality of the rivalry, and nothing screams rivalry like Red vs. Blue. I'd be pretty happy if the Trainers pulled it off. Mario's gotten away with soft matches for years in which he either was handed victory or else obvious defeat at the hands of Link. Losses to Link can never make a Nintendo character look bad, because we all know Link has SFF power, so Mario has gotten away with making people think he is stronger than he is for quite a while. Plus, Trainers vs. Cloud (or Trainers vs. Link for that matter) is a much more interesting final. The Trainers early vote against Cloud/Sephiroth would be hilarious for one. --- 2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud. Link 6, Cloud 2 |
From: red sox 777 | #442 It's been more like series than people realize, I think. --- http://i52.tinypic.com/2zfiu09.gif http://i54.tinypic.com/10729w2.gif |
It's
been like series in that it's been boring and margins of victory have
been amplified. Doesn't mean iconicness will be valued as in series.
The jury's still out, but the Trainers/Fighters match was pretty strong
evidence that iconicness isn't that important. --- 2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud. Link 6, Cloud 2 |
I'm not sure how Red/Blue isn't considered "iconic" at this point. Mario/Bowser's a good rivalry though, but feel free to keep trying to convince yourself it might not be! --- "The great GF...Bahamut." "...GF? I...? Using my powers...It is you humans...I fear..." |
Red/Blue is old, not iconic. There's a difference. --- Promise. |
It's
a good rivalry, but so is Ryu/Ken, and Red/Blue smoked them. That
performance was quite incredible; it's convinced me that nothing in this
bracket can compete with Trainers on the rivalry aspect. If
Mario/Bowser are going to win, it's going to be on pure strength. And
they probably will win, but it's fun thinking about this upset, and
Mario/Charizard makes it look possible. I said before Trainers/Fighters
that Trainers > Mario was basically impossible, but that match
changed my mind. --- 2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud. Link 6, Cloud 2 |
And finally, there it is: 60%. That was a struggle for quite a while. --- 2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud. Link 6, Cloud 2 |
Rofl, so who else banked on frog/alucard? --- "I am riding the Poke-wave, using the metaphorical Surf and hopping on my Blastoise, all the way to Mario vs Bowser." - RPGLord |
Also, Ryu/Ken vs Snakes WHO YA GOT??? --- "I am riding the Poke-wave, using the metaphorical Surf and hopping on my Blastoise, all the way to Mario vs Bowser." - RPGLord |
