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#1 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/9/2011 6:22:25 AM | message detail
*Frog's Theme*



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#2 | TRE Public Account | Posted 12/9/2011 12:42:43 PM | message detail
Bump
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#3 | Articuno2001 | Posted 12/9/2011 12:45:03 PM | message detail
screw Frog's Theme, Battle with Magus is the superior song from that rivalry.
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#4 | red sox 777 | Posted 12/9/2011 1:08:53 PM | message detail
Battle with Magus will be a good song to play come 4 AM tonight, right as we enter Alucard's best time and CT's worst.
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#5 | JJH777 | Posted 12/9/2011 1:09:27 PM | message detail
Is this the first contest where the tiebreaker is actually going to matter?
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#6 | charmander6000 | Posted 12/9/2011 1:15:32 PM | message detail
tiebreaker has mattered before, even in brackets without a perfect score.

With that said we may not even have a perfect bracket even if things go as planned (Alucard > Frog, Red > Samus). None of the gurus have that which leaves just 5 of the current perfects that could go perfect.
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#7 | AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 12/9/2011 1:16:03 PM | message detail
I should have left my tiebreaker at 42 as usual.

It would be closer than my actual tiebreaker.
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#8 | AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 12/9/2011 1:16:32 PM | message detail

From: JJH777 | #005
Is this the first contest where the tiebreaker is actually going to matter?


Yeah, tiebreakers have definitely mattered.
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#9 | GranzonEx | Posted 12/9/2011 1:17:28 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #006
(Alucard > Frog, Red > Samus).


I have that.
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#10 | Bigwig_rah | Posted 12/9/2011 1:18:17 PM | message detail
My tiebreaker is lower than what a lot of other people have said but I still think it's too high.
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#11 | charmander6000 | Posted 12/9/2011 1:22:42 PM | message detail
I have that.

You also have Red > Mario according to the site.
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#12 | GranzonEx | Posted 12/9/2011 1:23:10 PM | message detail
lol

>_>
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#13 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 12/9/2011 1:32:05 PM | message detail | (edited)
At this point, the only thing I have left is to hope the rest of the contest goes as expected, and then in the final Mario/Bowser end up actually beating Link/Dorf.

Pipe dream, I know, but god damn, that would ruin so many Battle Entries, since I doubt there's many high-scorers left who wouldn't go Link/Dorf for the final.
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#14 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 12/9/2011 1:32:18 PM | message detail | (edited)
Oops, did Quote instead of Edit.
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#15 | Geiki Ganger | Posted 12/9/2011 1:33:03 PM | message detail
#16 | TRE Public Account | Posted 12/9/2011 1:43:06 PM | message detail
tiebreaker has mattered before, even in brackets without a perfect score.

With that said we may not even have a perfect bracket even if things go as planned (Alucard > Frog, Red > Samus). None of the gurus have that which leaves just 5 of the current perfects that could go perfect.


However if things go as planned, we'll have a large group of perfect battle brackets that will go down to tiebreaker,
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#17 | foxhead84 | Posted 12/9/2011 1:49:35 PM | message detail
Top 10 Hardest Matches to Predict
1. Frog/Magus vs. Chell/GlaDOS – Round 2 – 33.41%
2. Alucard/Dracula vs. Phoenix Wright/Miles Edgeworth – Round 2 – 34.09%


I wonder what % the winner between those two gonna be at... 15% ? I know it was a tough division but still....
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#18 | jacko_vdz | Posted 12/9/2011 5:24:32 PM | message detail
#19 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/9/2011 5:25:44 PM | message detail
The Frog/Magus part of the third pic is brilliant, but I don't understand why Alucard and Dracula are orange.
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#20 | SnoicFactor | Posted 12/9/2011 5:26:30 PM | message detail
I think todays match might be the most borinf of the contest..
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#21 | pjbasis | Posted 12/9/2011 5:27:13 PM | message detail
#22 | jacko_vdz | Posted 12/9/2011 5:32:06 PM | message detail
Do I bank or listen to my heart and go with Frog... urgh
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#23 | AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 12/9/2011 5:45:45 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #019
The Frog/Magus part of the third pic is brilliant, but I don't understand why Alucard and Dracula are orange.


Vampires can't go out in the sun, they need to get a spray tan.
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#24 | transience | Posted 12/9/2011 6:03:03 PM | message detail
man, I keep thinking to myself, "Alucard has no real wins -- lawyers, space marines and Gordon Freeman is all we know about him.

but then I think about Frog and think how he's equal to Glados and Chell and how Raiden and Vamp threatened them. this division really sucks when you think about it.
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#25 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/9/2011 6:05:58 PM | message detail
The only reason this division was even debatable was because Phoenix/Edgey were a weak 1 seed.

Throw someone like Ryu/Ken or Sub-Zero/Scorpion in this division and they stomp.
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#26 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 12/9/2011 6:12:39 PM | message detail | (edited)
The more I think about it, the more I want to be on the side of Frog/Magus. I mean, Magus pulled 42% on his own against Alucard... throw Frog plus rivalry factor in there and they've got to be in the high 40s (also pic factor!). I don't trust the vampires to hold CT off if it's close.

And I don't know. Ness/Giygas should be fodder. But then again, Ness once got 35% on Auron, and there is literally no overlap at all between ChellDOS and Ness so he was always going to hold up well. Raiden/Vamp? I'm not gonna argue they're much good, but they stuck 55% on Yuna/Seymour in the vote-ins - do Freeman/Breen even beat Yuna/Seymour?

Still reckon the "safe" pick should be the vampires while the "upset" pick should be CT... but I'm gonna roll CT and see what happens. Time to get some CT music ready.
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#27 | creativename | Posted 12/9/2011 6:13:55 PM | message detail
I think Frog/Magus could win if the only pic was pic 3. That pic is great for both sides, but the Frog/Magus part of it is just epic.
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#28 | creativename | Posted 12/9/2011 6:16:32 PM | message detail
All the pics for this match look good though. Don't think pic 3 and maybe 4 alone are enough to really give Frog/Magus a pic edge though.

But hopefully Chrono Trigger pulls a classic match out of its ass once again.
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#29 | abdou | Posted 12/9/2011 6:21:19 PM | message detail
I think Alucard/Dracula will win without much trouble
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#30 | AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 12/9/2011 6:26:23 PM | message detail
I'm gambling on Frog/Magus.

I am not testicle betting, however.
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#31 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 12/9/2011 6:37:57 PM | message detail
And I don't know. Ness/Giygas should be fodder. But then again, Ness once got 35% on Auron, and there is literally no overlap at all between ChellDOS and Ness so he was always going to hold up well. Raiden/Vamp? I'm not gonna argue they're much good, but they stuck 55% on Yuna/Seymour in the vote-ins - do Freeman/Breen even beat Yuna/Seymour?

Yuna/Seymour lost to Banjo/Gruntilda in the vote-ins. Does Freeman/Breen beat Banjo/Gruntilda?
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#32 | izNotPerfect | Posted 12/9/2011 6:43:09 PM | message detail
I'm seriously concerned about Samus losing to the Trainers. I still don't know who to take in my battle, but I have Samus winning that match in my bracket.
I have 78 bracket points right now (82 after today) and I'd hate to pick against my bracket, but I just can't tell who will win this one.

And lol Alucard/Dracula have next match in the bag.
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#33 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 12/9/2011 6:45:57 PM | message detail
Eh, Banjo/Gruntilda were always going to do well there (only Nintendo option, FF/MGS LFF). I was thinking more along the lines of "Yuna/Seymour got 40% on Fox/Wolf... how close do Phoenix/Edgeworth get to Fox/Wolf? I'm thinking not too close."
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#34 | pjbasis | Posted 12/9/2011 6:51:27 PM | message detail
#35 | AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 12/9/2011 6:51:52 PM | message detail

From: izNotPerfect | #032
I'm seriously concerned about Samus losing to the Trainers. I still don't know who to take in my battle, but I have Samus winning that match in my bracket.
I have 78 bracket points right now (82 after today) and I'd hate to pick against my bracket, but I just can't tell who will win this one.

And lol Alucard/Dracula have next match in the bag.


I will bet you a testicle that Trainers beat Samus/Ridley.
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#36 | foxhead84 | Posted 12/9/2011 6:52:55 PM | message detail
izNotPerfect posted...
I'm seriously concerned about Samus losing to the Trainers. I still don't know who to take in my battle, but I have Samus winning that match in my bracket.
I have 78 bracket points right now (82 after today) and I'd hate to pick against my bracket, but I just can't tell who will win this one.

And lol Alucard/Dracula have next match in the bag.


really.. I'm more confident on Trainers > Samus then Alucard > Frog... but i'm taking those two anyway... now that I'm on the leaderboard (50th) I might as well try and finish perfect.... my tie-breaker of 80200 is gonna kill me but it's a karma entry anyway (not eligible to prize)
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#37 | MoogleKupo141 | Posted 12/9/2011 6:59:00 PM | message detail
Ugh, I can't decide what to go with for this match. I have Alucard now, but no actual confidence in it.
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#38 | creativename | Posted 12/9/2011 7:12:10 PM | message detail

From: izNotPerfect | #152
I'm seriously concerned about Samus losing to the Trainers. I still don't know who to take in my battle, but I have Samus winning that match in my bracket.
I have 78 bracket points right now (82 after today) and I'd hate to pick against my bracket, but I just can't tell who will win this one.

And lol Alucard/Dracula have next match in the bag.


Samus has almost no chance, she's very unlikely to even keep it respectable. Trainers will trounce.

And Alucard/Dracula by no means have it in the bag. They aren't beastly strong or anything. At the highest I can see them getting 54%, but I don't think they get that high.
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#39 | Bigwig_rah | Posted 12/9/2011 7:13:26 PM | message detail
This next match could be decided by which of these is better: 56% on Phoenix/Edgeworth or 56% on Raiden/Vamp. Surely MGS is a bigger series than PW? Or did the PW team get more votes because they were a 1 seed?
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#40 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/9/2011 7:13:57 PM | message detail
I'd have a hard time pulling the trigger on Raiden/Vamp > Phoenix/Edgeworth.
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#41 | AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 12/9/2011 7:14:14 PM | message detail
So who gets the day vote in this match.

Or rather, who fails LESS in the day?
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#42 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/9/2011 7:15:00 PM | message detail
Well, Vampires beat the Lawyers with the day vote last round.

I reckon they do it again.
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#43 | red sox 777 | Posted 12/9/2011 7:21:29 PM | message detail
Hmm, there's no ASV tomorrow. So.....

12 AM - 3 AM: CT
3 AM - 9 AM: Castlevania
9 AM - 8 PM: Neutral overall, gradually shifting from CV to CT as the day goes on and North America gets a higher percentage of incoming votes
8 PM - 12 AM: CT
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#44 | creativename | Posted 12/9/2011 7:31:32 PM | message detail
So Cloud has gotten 76% on Squall before.

I figure Squall/Seifer and Mega Man/Wily to be of comparable strength. I'd take Mega Man there but it would probably be close.

Can Cloud/Sephiroth outdo Link's tripling of MM? There might be a chance Squall ends up lower than both Kratoses, which would be pretty funny yet kinda sad :)
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#45 | vcharon | Posted 12/9/2011 7:32:49 PM | message detail
Outdo Link? This is madness.
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#46 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/9/2011 7:33:42 PM | message detail
Twin Scars will outdo Twin Snakes' percentage book it
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#47 | vcharon | Posted 12/9/2011 7:35:41 PM | message detail
I'm pretty confident with Alucard here really. He's already easily dispatched Magus once before, and I can't really see Frog adding enough to him to bring this within striking distance. Furthermore, Dracula should be valuable enough to keep this at a safe distance.
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#48 | charmander6000 | Posted 12/9/2011 7:36:06 PM | message detail
Match LIV: (4) Alucard/Dracula vs. (2) Frog/Magus

Previous Round

Phoenix Wright/Miles Edgeworth – 43.33%
Alucard/Dracula – 56.67%

Chell/GlaDOS – 48.49%
Frog/Magus – 51.51%

Analysis

A lot of people have been hyping this match as to them they see it as a last chance for an interesting match outside of trainers shenanigans. Personally I don’t see this match being overly interesting, it was only last contest that Alucard put the hurting on Magus and to me this contest has not given me a reason to believe that Frog and Magus are capable of winning this match.

The big reason why people feel that there may be an upset is the performances from last round. For some reason people feel that the performance against Phoenix and Edgeworth was bad. They would be right had this been one on one, but as we’ve seen many times in this contest rivalries do matter and a pair like Phoenix and Edgeworth are bound to get a decent boost from rivalries and only lost because their initial strength was quite low.

I also feel that people are giving the win over Chell and GlaDOS a bit too much credit. GlaDOS was very weak in the previous contest and even with Portal 2 and going from a potential lost to Ness to 60/40 him does not mean the pair is something to be afraid of. Also not looking very impressive against Raiden and Vamp in the first round also helps me believe that Chell and GlaDOS aren’t as strong as some people think.

I would love to see some of that Chrono Trigger magic and given the trends of these characters should the match be even it’ll be even for the rest of the day. Best chance for Frog and Magus is hope Dracula is a flop and that it was Alucard carrying the team, but I doubt that is what happened over the past two rounds.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Gordon Freeman/Dr. Breen > Frog/Magus

charmander6000’s Prediction: Alucard/Dracula wins, 55.83% - 44.17%
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#49 | BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 12/9/2011 7:38:44 PM | message detail
I think Cloud can triple Squall and then some. He got 76% before, now throw in the strength difference between Seifer and Seph and you have a recipe for one hell of a beat-down. I wouldn't bat an eye if he gets 80%.

And I love that third picture. The fact that it shows Frog in his human form on the side really adds to the strength of the rivalry that no other match pic has done yet this contest. Kudos to whoever did that one.
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#50 | MoogleKupo141 | Posted 12/9/2011 7:39:24 PM | message detail
your bracket had Gordon win this division? Why?
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