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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1032
Sora/Riku have a chance against Squall/Seifer. Not much of one, but it's there. Cloud/Seph vs. Snakes? I think that's a lock. --- Praise the Black Turtle, Game of the Decade Guru Champ. (Well, I never promised creativity, did I?!) |
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So
then after that, all that's really left up to question is how far
Trainers go, huh? Maybe an outside chance Cloud/Seph beat Link/Ganondorf
but I highly doubt that. --- Well I'll be go to hell. |
I
don't think there's anything left up to doubt. I feel like every match
left over is pretty must set in stone. Alucard/Frog is the only I
could maybe see getting weird, but that's it. --- I wish I could wear skirts and dresses :( -GMUN |
Sora/Riku
have an outside shot. Something doesn't sit well with me about Sqall
and Sora this year, but I can't put my finger on it. --- Game of the Decade? More like Guru of the Decade mirite? |
Another
factor working against Cloud is that the lead-in to his semifinal will
be Mario/Trainers - two huge Nintendo teams that could definitely draw
more Nintendo fans to the site. Whether these extra Nintendo fans prefer
Mario or Pokemon... most will prefer Link to Cloud. --- Yoblazer: http://oi52.tinypic.com/ad21i1.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
If Sora somehow beats Squall how good/bad would he look against Cloud in the match after? --- http://myanimelist.net/animelist/swordz9 |
Cloud gets 80% on them. --- Black: 3310-7431-2094 |
Quite bad, as would Squall. There is some truly poor bracket making in those last two divisions. --- Yoblazer: http://oi53.tinypic.com/2hd0dh1.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
How
would Sora look if he beat Squall and Snake/Liquid beat Cloud? I
imagine Sora would lose either way, but it'd probably look less ugly at
least. --- http://myanimelist.net/animelist/swordz9 |
I
honestly do want Squalfer to thrash Sora but for some reason i cans see
that annoying scrote getting a decent result especially in US where
they favour KH a lot. Snake as a character is on the level of Cloud/SEph, Liquid is absolute fodder though. And the rivalry between Cloud/Seph has the same strength Imo as the entire FFVII game. IT's that strong, it's why i picked them over Link. --- http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/5716/linkpron.gif |
My
concern is how Seifer and Riku affect things, if people are looking at
rivalries. I never played FF8 and only a little bit of KH1, so I don't
really know much. I know Squall is a little stronger than Sora, but Riku
has been in contests before whereas Seifer hasn't. Is this something
that could tip the scales, or are we basically looking at FF8 vs KH
here? --- Well I'll be go to hell. |
Osfan posted... Given how boring the battle contest has gotten this contest with no upsets happening and the potential for 20+ perfects to end with a perfect Battle Score what would guys think about potentially implementing an Oracle style contest as opposed to the battle contest. Obviously this would run a lot of the same way maintaining interest until the very end and we would not have the hivemind of perfect scores we have now. It would be a way of having people keep coming to update the percentages but not quite as simple as a standard pick em which is too similar to the bracket contest. So two fact or fictions about the boring state of this contest... Fact or Fiction: You would support an Oracle style contest replacing the Battle Contest for the next Character Battle. Fact or Fiction: Mario beating Link with some sort of rivalry boost would save this contest. Rather than change the way people pick (and oracle style would be somewhat tedious for most casuals) to make the contest interesting, I'd rather see the contest expand and increase the vote totals to a wider audience. I'm not sure how social/anti-social GameFAQs' owner is, but teaming up with other gaming websites who cater to general gaming like GameFAQs/Gamespot/etc. and having the character/game battles linked could potentially change up the power of these games/characters quite a bit. I higher number in votes and different audiences would bring back a lot of interest and unpredictability. --- ------ --------- |
From: DpObliVion | #261 Squall/Seifer is a very meaningful rivalry in FF8, for me its "the" outstanding Final Fantasy rivalry in the entire series. Cloud/Seph runs more of a hero/villain subtype whereas the Squall/Seifer relationship plays out much more like a true rivalry. The Sora/Riku rivalry is pretty lame and debatable if its even a rivalry at all. Probably briefly in the original but it was totally one sided. Sora saw Riku as a friend, Riku was envious of Sora. Makes for a poor rivalry. For me theres substantial evidence from the Dante match that the KH franchise is in the midst of falling of a cliff in these contests. To have the supposedly 1st and 3rd strongest characters in a poll with the 4th being last by some margin and still manage to score less than Sora once upon a time would have been expecting 1v1 against Dante is just awful. Either KH is sinking or this rivalry just isn't very strong at all. Not much to say about Squall, difficult to place him but I've seen nothing that'd suggest he's weaker than originally expected. --- Smurf, the cream of Sonic fanboyism |
Cloud/Seph
will probably break 80% on Squall/Seifer after the crushing SFF. 80%
in the quarterfinals.....that would be a new record and pretty
incredible. I don't think Link/Ganon would break 75% on Frog/Magus or Alucard/Dracula. Link was a ways away from that against Alucard last year, and adding the rivalries probably doesn't change that too much. And for Frog/Magus, blowouts are hard in Nintendo vs. Square matches. These kinds of matches are the ones that CT excels at- it's never had a bad performance against high level Nintendo heads up. Magus overperformed a lot the last time he faced Link. --- 2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud. Link 6, Cloud 2 |
Yeah
I was thinking this yesterday. There's a solid block of three
semi-difficult-to-predict R3 matches in four days...then...not much. I
feel fairly good about running the table if Alucard wins. That's a big
if though! Still worried. I mean after that, what are we hoping for in terms of "realistic" upsets? Cloud/Seph breaking the law and the trainers going godmode? --- "whats a matter afried i might boobs punch you" - ertyu |
Doesn't
Squall get a decent amount of strength from Kingdom Hearts, where the
Squall-Seifer rivalry not only doesn't exist, but Seifer's kind of
sucky? I could see Squall-Seifer get hit by a nontrivial amount of SFF. |
I
still think there's a chance that something weird will happen in the
semi-finals/final. Not necessarily such to prevent a Link/Ganon >
Mario/Bowser outcome, but enough to leave some unusual percentages. --- Praise the Black Turtle, Game of the Decade Guru Champ. (Well, I never promised creativity, did I?!) |
You think Cloudoth will break 80% no matter who wins?That can't happen.Around 70% sounds all right. --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
From: thok3 | #266 By Sora? please. Squall isn't being SFF'd by friggin Sora. IT comes down to FF8's strength Sora/RIku is a crap rivalry, Squall seifer has a decent rivalry in FF9 Squall should win he's the favourite..but i just have this feeling the damn US will favour KH too much. I know FF8 has a fanbase, i hope that fanbase supports their characters...something which the FFX fanbase obviously did NOT do with theirs but Squall means a lot more to people than friggin Tidus so i'm hoping. These losers should have lost to Dergil last round. --- http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/5716/linkpron.gif |
From: Safer Sephiroth 777 | #268 exaggeration. I think 70 too. if Sora somehow does make it then i hope it's 90%. --- http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/5716/linkpron.gif |
US percent doesn't really matter that much look at Samus here over 57% in US only at 53% overall. Edit: It obviously does matter a lot but I think Sora/Riku could win the US and still lose the match pretty easily. --- Starcraft is my life, so without it I wouldn't exist. - Artosis |
Winning US means you pretty much won the match or lost it by a hair. Squall has to win US for me. --- http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/5716/linkpron.gif |
http://image.com.com/gamefaqs/images/rivals/rivals-53-1.jpg http://image.com.com/gamefaqs/images/rivals/rivals-53-2.jpg --- Yoblazer: http://8board.webs.com/ariel.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
Squall
lost the US to Auron in CBVIII and won. Auron is much more "non-US"
biased than KH so there's a reasonably window where Squall could lose
the US and still win. --- Praise the Black Turtle, Game of the Decade Guru Champ. (Well, I never promised creativity, did I?!) |
Also there is Dark Link and Dark Samus apparently.Does Dark Mario exists? --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
Yeah,
Squall doesn't need to win the U.S. to beat Sora/Riku. He dominated
Europe against a fellow FF character. Europe for FFVIII vs. KH will be
brutal for Sora/Riku. From: PartOfYourWorld | #258 Squall has had literally two contests ever where his last match wasn't against Snake or Cloud. 2002, 2006, 2007, 2010 - Snake 2004, 2008, 2011 (probably) - Cloud This is getting a bit ridiculous! (I know you were talking about the bracket making in this contest in general, but yeah, just felt like venting!) --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
yeah
he could still win but i do't want him to just win i want him to win
convincingly. I'll be disappointed if he doesn't get more than 55%.
After last round i just want to see those twonks get smashed. I'm saying if you win the US and lose..you aren't going to lose by much. From: PartOfYourWorld | #273 would have been so much better if that first pic had Link/Ganondorf fighting in the actual pic. But i guess it's hard to find without taking screencap from your own tV. So about this match....could be respectable and MM gets above 30^% or link destroys him. --- http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/5716/linkpron.gif |
Heck, I'm pretty sure Sora beat Squall in the U.S. in both of their matches in 2008 as well. --- "I can set you free, mate." "My freedom was forfeit long ago!" |
Hey,
in that second pic, it looks like Mega Man is looking off to the side
at Bacon and asking why the **** he has to be in this match. --- Yoblazer: http://oi53.tinypic.com/2hd0dh1.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
From: pjbasis | #276 LOL. when i read your post i thought you were talking about the pics.....like in that first pic...marios shadow exists behind Ganon. --- http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/5716/linkpron.gif |
From: PartOfYourWorld | #273 hahaha dr. wily being all "please don't hurt me ):" is hilarious. --- Surskit .-#Elements of Water#-. |
Too bad they didn't use the actual scene from MM7 and the proper MM sprite for that Wily pic. --- http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab48/Leonhart4/Squall.jpg |
Squall has had literally two contests ever where his last match wasn't against Snake or Cloud. 2002, 2006, 2007, 2010 - Snake 2004, 2008, 2011 (probably) - Cloud This is getting a bit ridiculous! (I know you were talking about the bracket making in this contest in general, but yeah, just felt like venting!) Ouch. Though if you don't believe in Snake/Squall SFF, that doesn't look nearly as bad. Bacon should give Squall a shot at a lower Noble Niner next time, with the winner rewarded by facing Link. --- 2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud. Link 6, Cloud 2 |
Mega
Man is still stronger than Sonic. I don't think that Link does much
better here than he did against Sonic last year. I'd assume around 0% at
the highest. I highly doubt he gets the tripling. |
Man Nintendo really likes to make evil counterparts right? --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
I
think the thing is that the format has been amplifying margins of
victory and SFF. But I'd be surprised if he got 75% too. Not sure if I
should root for that. On the one hand, tripling a Noble Niner is
something Link has never done before, and as far as Link/Cloud goes, how
much Link can SFF Megaman into the ground really doesn't matter. On
the other hand, it will mean enduring louder and louder complaints about
Link being invincible, coupled with refusal to even contemplate the
idea of him losing, for another week before the Link/Cloud match. --- 2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud. Link 6, Cloud 2 |
The tripling would be ****ing insane. I don't see Link shooting that high. There's a point at which things get too damn crazy. However, let's entertain that notion for the people still hoping Cloud can win the contest. If Link somehow pulls a tripling out his elvish ass and you still want to assume Link/Ganon = Cloud/Seph, then going by pure stats, Kratos and Zeus would put up 46.5% against Mega Man. Yeah, that's happening. --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/25z1non.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
From: PartOfYourWorld | #288 Based on Kratos/Charizard/Mario last year wouldn't that happen? >_> --- Starcraft is my life, so without it I wouldn't exist. - Artosis |
However,
let's entertain that notion for the people still hoping Cloud can win
the contest. If Link somehow pulls a tripling out his elvish ass and you
still want to assume Link/Ganon = Cloud/Seph, then going by pure stats,
Kratos and Zeus would put up 46.5% against Mega Man. Yeah, that's
happening. SFF. As I recall, last year's raw stats tell us that Crono gets pretty close to a doubling on Sonic. Link is the King of SFF for a reason. --- 2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud. Link 6, Cloud 2 |
Match LIII: (1) Link/Ganondorf vs. (2) Mega Man/Dr. Wily Previous Round Link/Ganondorf – 83.69% Amaterasu/Orochi – 16.31% Zidane Tribal/Kuja – 33.89% Mega Man/Dr. Wily – 66.11% Analysis Last round Link reminded everyone why he’s the strongest character in the bracket be destroying Amaterasu and Orochi while Mega Man and Dr. Wily looked fairly normal against Zidane and Kuja. To no one’s surprise Link and Ganondorf should clean up this match rather quickly as for the fourth contest Mega Man has been either stuck up against Nintendo or leeched by his own series. After Mario and Bowser totally destroyed Sonic and Dr. Robotnik a few matches ago people have been expecting Link and Ganondorf to pull off an even larger win. It isn’t surprising that people are making the comparison to Sonic and Dr. Robotnik as the rivalry between the two characters are fairly similar and they are both pseudo-Nintendo characters. I personally have a tough time seeing Mega Man, a noble nine character struggling to avoid getting tripled, even against someone like Link, but at the same time I would have never expected Sonic to fail to break 30% on Mario. I think Mega Man is going to break 25%, but should the SFF hammer come down the match could get ugly rather quickly. charmander6000’s Bracket: Link/Ganondorf > Mega Man/Dr. Wily charmander6000’s Prediction: Link/Ganondorf wins, 72.63% - 27.37% --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Rivalry Rumble: 65/76 Today: Samus/Ridley |
MM/Wily are going to look awful in the unmodified stats regardless of whether they get 28% or 25%. >.> --- Praise the Black Turtle, Game of the Decade Guru Champ. (Well, I never promised creativity, did I?!) |
Pure
stats though. Link is capable of SFFing MM to the ground. MM is
completely anonymous outside the US. Which is also the same continent
the reason Link and Zelda dominate these contests. --- http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/5716/linkpron.gif |
Based on Kratos/Charizard/Mario last year wouldn't that happen? >_> Yes, Mario/Megaman SFF (plus any Charizard boost between rounds if you believe in that) made Megaman and Kratos roughly equals. So I guess if you look at it that way, Link had better break 75% on an SFF'd Megaman team if he wants to keep pace with Cloud! --- 2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud. Link 6, Cloud 2 |
From: red sox 777 | #290 I'm just sayin. I don't use pure numbers too often; they're fun to dust off once in a while to demonstrate the POWER O FLINK. --- Yoblazer: http://oi52.tinypic.com/ad21i1.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
You really think I would avoid the NES sprite, Leon? For shame. --- ~*Winner of two Vlado Awards for Posting Excellence*~ |
That's
okay, after Cloud vs. Squall, Cloud will be able to show off some
powerful hype building numbers of his own for the first time since 2006! Actually, I think he'll probably do so earlier, in the Snake match. 60% on Snake just won't seem so impressive if Link triples MM, even though it actually is. --- 2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud. Link 6, Cloud 2 |
Snake/liquid is not even close to the strength of snake on his own. Id be bitterly disappointed if cloud doesnt do 65+ --- http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/5716/linkpron.gif |
From: UltimaterializerX | #296 No, because you don't seem to care about actually being consistent in whose pictures you use, like using X-2 Yuna for an FFX rivalry! --- "The great GF...Bahamut." "...GF? I...? Using my powers...It is you humans...I fear..." |
Also,
Link tripling Mega Man won't surprise me too much, even if Link
wouldn't approach that 1-on-1. I don't think Mario gets 70% on Sonic in a
1-on-1 match either. But this is like the Series Contest redux, complete with totally over the top blowouts. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2441 It's not THAT farfetched. --- http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/8718/leonflowchart.png |
