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#101 | ExThaNemesis | Posted 12/7/2011 9:39:00 PM | message detail

From: XIII_rocks | #098
Also Ex I am all over nifty fifties. You should rejoin UCA and that can be our tagteam name.


hahaha I don't think I could muster up the interest, tbqh. Though that would be a great tag team name. I don't think that's going to last past today though.
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#102 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/7/2011 9:59:35 PM | message detail
Yesterday's chart:

Time | Red/Blue | Ryu/Ken | Votes | Demographic
EBV | 64.83% | 35.17% | 870 | (0:00-0:05)
PHV | 63.47% | 36.53% | 5754 | (0:00-1:00)
FNV | 59.47% | 40.53% | 11283 | (1:00-6:00)
BSV | 58.63% | 41.37% | 6423 | (6:00-9:00)
DSV | 58.57% | 41.43% | 13871 | (9:00-14:30)
ASV | 61.09% | 38.91% | 18046 | (14:30-22:00)
SNV | 59.20% | 40.80% | 3466 | (22:00-24:00)

Not much different than what we expected to happen here, trend-wise.
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#103 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/7/2011 10:02:08 PM | message detail
Nice update to finish the hour for the Bosses.
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#104 | pyresword | Posted 12/7/2011 10:03:22 PM | message detail | (edited)
-Tofa7- posted...
I've got the feeling the casuals who are still perfect in the battle challenge are visiting board 8 each day to find out who the favorite is. This is just getting ridiculous. I hope there's an upset and 99% of you get wiped.

Since I feel like this statement is directed at people like me, as a lurker for the past ~4 years, I feel like its more just a reflection on how easy this contest has to pick so far. The only match so far where Board 8's opinion caused me to change was on taking Bosses>Tidus/Jecht in Round 1 and 2, and I highly doubt only casuals are guilty of changing one pick because of someone else's opinion.
#105 | XIII_rocks | Posted 12/7/2011 10:02:43 PM | message detail

From: ExThaNemesis | #101
hahaha I don't think I could muster up the interest, tbqh. Though that would be a great tag team name. I don't think that's going to last past today though.


Butbut

I would be able to ride on your coat-tails to, like, a million-year tag-team reign. it would be amazing.
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#106 | Iamthekuzalol | Posted 12/7/2011 10:24:15 PM | message detail
Already a cut at this time, not going to look too good for Samus later.
#107 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/7/2011 10:24:22 PM | message detail
Well, there's the first Boss cut. There will be a lot more of those later tonight.
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#108 | FateStayAlbion | Posted 12/7/2011 10:38:09 PM | message detail
With how much the Bosses are destroying in Europe and Asia, I wouldnt be surprised if they cut a couple hundred votes off the lead in the dead hours
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#109 | tennisboy213 | Posted 12/7/2011 10:47:10 PM | message detail | (edited)
47 tennisboy213 132600 132600

Yessss I finally made the leaderboard :)
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#110 | XIII_rocks | Posted 12/7/2011 10:47:02 PM | message detail
Well done, bro. It's so satisfying. I think the fact that I've just sneaked in at #50 makes it even better.
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#111 | Greyfeld | Posted 12/7/2011 10:54:29 PM | message detail
Well, it was fun while it lasted. Got up to #27 before Ryu/Ken betrayed me.
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#112 | WhiteLens | Posted 12/7/2011 11:22:15 PM | message detail | (edited)
23 HyperSage 75 Cloud Strife vs. Sephiroth
37 Cartyx 74 Link vs. Ganondorf

Hmm, two alts of mine on the bracket leaderboard.
Now if only I didn't make both accounts have Red/Blue lose to Samus/Ridley >_>.....

Then there's this:

15 HyperSage 132600 132600

On the battle leaderboard....but too bad that I banked with that account on this match <_<....
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#113 | Pizzaknight | Posted 12/7/2011 11:35:12 PM | message detail | (edited)
I got burned on Donkey Kong refusing to choke, the Trainers serving as the proxy for RBY's strength, and KINGDOM HEAAAAARTS!

No gift card for me. =P

Seriously, though, those boys could very well pull off the win against Samus. They've got momentum.
#114 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/7/2011 11:39:00 PM | message detail
Bosses have done a pretty effective job of stalling for the last half hour.
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#115 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 12/7/2011 11:43:22 PM | message detail
LoD and Golden Sun both outsold Chrono Trigger, SNES and DS versions combined?

I wasn't considering remakes or re-releases to count as the same game, but in U.S. sales, yes, they did.

Legend of Dragoon: 960,000
Golden Sun: 860,000
Chrono Trigger (SNES): 280,000
Chrono Trigger (DS): 449,453

I can't find sales data on Final Fantasy Chronicles, though if those sales were considered CT would probably at least beat Golden Sun.
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#116 | SnoicFactor | Posted 12/7/2011 11:45:11 PM | message detail
God damn samus sux. she definitely has gotten weaker. trainers gonna go all oug
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#117 | KamikazePotato | Posted 12/7/2011 11:52:12 PM | message detail
This is a ridiculous drop considering Europe Prime Time isn't even here yet. Samus a joke character confirmed.
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#118 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/7/2011 11:53:25 PM | message detail
The early vote for Samus/Trainers should be interesting considering how ridiculously frontloaded both of them are.
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#119 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/7/2011 11:58:47 PM | message detail
Ha, if the Bosses somehow cut 29 votes on the next update, they would win this hour.

Not likely, but it's kind of funny that they're already on the verge of winning hours and we haven't even hit the heart of the Euro vote yet.
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#120 | JJH777 | Posted 12/7/2011 11:59:47 PM | message detail
So 3s a trend right? Comeback time?
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#121 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/8/2011 12:00:42 AM | message detail
If the lead were like half this and the vote totals weren't so atrocious, I'd give the Bosses a chance at taking the lead at some point.

Heck, I might give them an outside shot at winning in that case.
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#122 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/8/2011 12:05:05 AM | message detail
Samus has been averaging under 52% since the end of the Power Hour.

This will basically end up being X/Zero vs. Sub-Zero/Scorpion part 2 where the Bosses pretty much make Samus look terrible but they never seriously threaten to win.
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#123 | jacko_vdz | Posted 12/8/2011 12:59:52 AM | message detail
As long as Frog can make it an interesting match, I really won't mind if my bracket and battle challenge both die.
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#124 | FateStayAlbion | Posted 12/8/2011 1:14:49 AM | message detail | (edited)
Bosses win that hour by 17 votes.

-edit- 50 votes cut the last 20 minutes, too. I really wish this match was closer to begin with or we might have something to get excited over here.
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#125 | JJH777 | Posted 12/8/2011 1:19:59 AM | message detail
Is there any chance the Bosses get the day vote or are they really night based? I know Samus doesn't have the day vote of most Nintendo characters.
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#126 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 12/8/2011 1:22:30 AM | message detail
They're night based and Samus is weak at night. Still probably stays under 2k votes for the whole match.
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#127 | IngmarBirdman | Posted 12/8/2011 1:53:18 AM | message detail
Wow I did not expect this much of a fall from the power hour.

I think Samus is about a week away from getting 65-35'd.
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#128 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 12/8/2011 1:55:02 AM | message detail
Samus had 58.29% at the freeze... it's now 53/47 and falling. For characters with non-joke trends that's quite something.
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#129 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/8/2011 1:58:35 AM | message detail
I didn't expect Samus to be more frontloaded than the Pokemon Trainers. She's going to end up falling more percentage points (maybe 2% more) while starting from a lower percentage.
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#130 | Some_Character | Posted 12/8/2011 2:02:20 AM | message detail
You know, I never really quite knew about what the freeze is. I know most of the contest terminology, but that one's not even explained on the wiki.
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#131 | dragon22391 | Posted 12/8/2011 2:03:44 AM | message detail
For the first five minutes of the poll, the totals are constantly updated. After that, they only update in five minute intervals. That first stoppage is the freeze.
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#132 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/8/2011 2:04:12 AM | message detail
It's the percentage at the end of the first five minutes, or the first time the vote updates "freeze."
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#133 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 12/8/2011 2:04:32 AM | message detail
For the first five minutes of each poll, there's live updates - if you sit on the poll results page and F5 you will see the votes come in as they're made. Then it "freezes" and only displays updates every five minutes.
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#134 | JJH777 | Posted 12/8/2011 2:05:50 AM | message detail
Wow Samus is still at almost 56% in North America... Was getting slightly hopeful since the Bosses still have like 4 hours of night vote but that's just too high in NA.
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#135 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/8/2011 2:05:51 AM | message detail
And people say we're elitist jerks when someone asks a question lol
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#136 | Some_Character | Posted 12/8/2011 2:05:55 AM | message detail
I see. I thought it would be like the period of time too late for the day but too early for the night or something.
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#137 | transience | Posted 12/8/2011 2:32:02 AM | message detail
this'll be another X/Zero // Sub/Scorp match where it ends up way closer than it actually was.
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#138 | Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 12/8/2011 2:50:05 AM | message detail | (edited)
I didn't expected this match to be that close.Also only 12 perfects remain?Man.Plus it seems the casuals beat the pros!I mean Trainers/Fighters match was the worst,33 people fell of the leaderboard!And there was a guy there called Safer_777?That reminds me of something...
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#139 | The Raven 2 | Posted 12/8/2011 3:42:05 AM | message detail
#30 on the list! Awww yeah, hoping for Alucard/Drac and Red/Blue victories to really rake in!
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#140 | pjbasis | Posted 12/8/2011 3:58:51 AM | message detail
Holy wasn't expecting this close a match.

Samus is gonna rebound right?
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#141 | The_Djoker | Posted 12/8/2011 4:03:19 AM | message detail
Can we give chris/wesker respect here? Because people kept saying bosses flopped last round when i think chris wesker are decent.
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#142 | The_Djoker | Posted 12/8/2011 4:12:24 AM | message detail
Also if you guys wanted bosses to win why submit other m pics were samus is terrified of ridley
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#143 | The_Djoker | Posted 12/8/2011 4:13:31 AM | message detail
#144 | SuorGenoveffa | Posted 12/8/2011 4:13:47 AM | message detail
I don't know how much of this is the Bosses being strong compared to Samus being weak though. I thought it was Terra/Kefka becoming legit last round, but 53% on the bosses is an entirely different beast, maybe Samus is becoming much weaker than she used to be, because I don't believe you can throw all the blame on Ridley, he's no Waluigi.
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#145 | Pondos | Posted 12/8/2011 4:21:04 AM | message detail
I blame Naked Snake
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#146 | The_Djoker | Posted 12/8/2011 4:29:17 AM | message detail

From: SuorGenoveffa | #144
I don't know how much of this is the Bosses being strong compared to Samus being weak though. I thought it was Terra/Kefka becoming legit last round, but 53% on the bosses is an entirely different beast, maybe Samus is becoming much weaker than she used to be, because I don't believe you can throw all the blame on Ridley, he's no Waluigi.




#Again it's not an individual character contest Samus on her own >>>> Samus/Ridley.

Also her being individually weaker isn't surprising..did people forget a game that came out that literally put Metroid down to Sonic level of embarrassment? That game left a bad taste if fans mouths. I wouldn't surprised if she is individual weaker next year.

People said the biggest contribution to Cloud>ink in 03 was Toon link. Now can you imagine Samus vs someone like MEgaman a character she would beat handily...but it's a teenage pic of her with short hair with thumbs down from Other M.

I'd put everything on MM winning that match.
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#147 | SuorGenoveffa | Posted 12/8/2011 4:38:41 AM | message detail
I know Other M wasn't very well received, but I didn't think it could have that much impact. Samus might be >>> Samus/Ridley, but this big gap between Samley and 2010 Samus, I can't believe it's all Other M and Ridley being an anchor.
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#148 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 12/8/2011 5:49:09 AM | message detail | (edited)
Don't panic about this for Samus as an individual. Naked Snake Big Boss put 37% on Mario in a night match last character battle. Ridley might lose to The Boss straight-up, and then RIVALRY FACTOR. Leon isn't losing to Donkey Kong any time soon, but Ada Wong certainly made it look that way, and she probably actually beats K. Rool straight-up. If Wolf can drag down Fox, and Meta-Knight can drag down Kirby, Ridley can drag down Samus. This is the same guy who got 57-43ed by Diablo.

Samus is established enough to not be hurt by a bad game, at least not enough to fall any further than being in the #3-6 overall range, where she was anyways.
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#149 | The_Djoker | Posted 12/8/2011 5:53:55 AM | message detail

From: SuorGenoveffa | #147
I know Other M wasn't very well received, but I didn't think it could have that much impact. Samus might be >>> Samus/Ridley, but this big gap between Samley and 2010 Samus, I can't believe it's all Other M and Ridley being an anchor.


And the rivalry factor. IT's not that great of a rivlary really. Also we know metroid on this site isn't anywhere near as strong as a franchise asn Samus character. Samus gets strength from a lot of aspects.

- Smash Bros
- Only legit female Nintendo character
- Her respectable Game series
- Badass image.

When you combine these factors it's not surprising to see Samley struggle. Samus/Ridley isn't going to get the same votals as Samus the character.

And when she had "bad" pics she turned to crap...i mean Tifa almost beat her in the female contest. If she has an "other M" pic, her strength would go down a lot,

To say other M wasn't received well is an understatement. A chunk of the metroid fanbase hate the game with passion.
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#150 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/8/2011 6:25:19 AM | message detail
Samus getting the morning vote here? She's already gained half a percent from her low point. These trends aren't normal for Samus, as she not good with the morning vote or ASV.
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