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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1031
If
you aren't a Pokemon fanboy, you'll probably never get what makes
Red/Blue so good. Like Tofa, I'm a part of the demographic that went
Pokemon crazy. We are the 62%. Also, I hope we get Trainers vs Cloud/Seph as a match for 3rd place. The board vote would be nuts. This. --- Samus | 6 | 33.33% | Nidoran F | 12 | 66.66% | lead of 6 | |
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From: The_Djoker | #199 Ehh after the most recent match I'd take Ganondorf > MMX and they both scored very similarly on each of them. --- Starcraft is my life, so without it I wouldn't exist. - Artosis |
Also
like I said earlier I am a major pokemon fanboy. I have a ton of
nostalgia for it and I have put a ridiculous amount of time into all the
pokemon games. I never cared about the rivalry/story aspect at all. For
me it was always about trading/battling with friends and maxing the
pokedex. None of my friends cared about the rivalry. --- Starcraft is my life, so without it I wouldn't exist. - Artosis |
I
don't see them anywhere, but what were the nomination rules again? You
could nominate a historical character but not fictional? Dracula and
Zeus made the contest anyway? You may nominate up to 15 of what you consider to be the best video game rivalries of all time. To nominate a rivalry, simply choose two characters and enter their names below in the appropriate boxes. Please note the following ground rules: - Your nominated characters should be rivals in some form or another, one considered the protagonist (the hero or player character in a game), the other the antagonist (the rival/boss/enemy of the protagonist). - Your protagonist must be an individual character, not groups or teams of them. - Your antagonist should be another individual character from the same game or series that you consider a rival of the protagonist - from friendly rivals (Ryu vs. Ken) to mortal enemies (Cloud vs. Sephiroth). - Licensed characters who originate from outside of video games (comic book characters, movie characters), or characters who don't appear in the game themselves (only in supplemental material) will not be accepted. Fictionalized representations of historical characters (Nobunaga from the Onimusha series) are acceptable, as are public-domain characters in the context of a game (Dracula from the Castlevania series) - Using multiple accounts to nominate more than 15 rivalries or the same characters multiple times will invalidate all of your nominations. Nominations consisting of nothing but multiple rivalries from the same game or series will also likely be uncounted. - You should avoid nominating the same character multiple times as a protagonist or antagonist - each character will appear only once in the finished bracket, so pick what you believe is the best true rivalry. --- Pokemon VGC2011 US Nationals - 54th place Pokemon VGC2012 NW Regional - 16th place |
Bonus match should be winner vs. Batman/joker --- http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/5716/linkpron.gif |
Okay,
thanks. Fictional is okay, licensed is not. I couldn't remember if Bond
/ Trevelyan was legal. I suspect they would be dominating if they could
have made it in! --- "Ovelia ... SPOILERS IN THE KEYWORDS WOOPS" - Vormav |
Pokemon
is probably the most fascinating game series on this site. Nothing
triggers the emotional response that it does, but that "switch" isn't
triggered all the time. Pokemon was totally slapped around in the last
contest when it could have excelled. Yes, I understand that the flagship
game wasn't there, but many people argue that Majora functioned as a
"pseudo-OoT." Why didn't GSC function as a pseudo-RBY? Heck, maybe it
did and pseudo-OoT just won out, I dunno. Seems like the more a Poke-entrant brings about feelings and memories of RBY, the better they do. That's why Charizard did notably better than Pikachu. Pikachu is pretty much the face of the series, of every toy line, every movie, every game, all of it. Charizard is THE starter in RBY (well, Pikachu is the starter in Yellow, and I'm only adding this so some blithering Pokefan manchild doesn't see fit to correct me). You can use that same reasoning for Missingno as well. Unless they brought Missingno back in more recent games as a joke, it was a super special awesome secret exclusive to RBY. Heck, I'm now using that as my rationale to take Charizard, Blastoise, Mewtwo, Missingno, and the three Legendary Birds over Pikachu if we ever have to live through any of those 1v1s. They are much more strongly connected to RBY, while Pikachu represents the entire series, including the last decade of weak crap no one cares about. --- Yoblazer: http://i32.tinypic.com/zlf1w7.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
From: IngmarBirdman | #206 I like the way you think. Even if 007/006 would get crushed, it's the only way I'd ever see 006 in a contest format! --- http://img.imgcake.com/alecoweenpngam.png -fr0q http://img.imgcake.com/alecpngym.png -fr0q |
Missingno.
technically exists in all Pokemon games but in different forms and
different names. Even in Yellow version it had a different glitch sprite
than the well known vertical block shaped version. --- Pokemon VGC2011 US Nationals - 54th place Pokemon VGC2012 NW Regional - 16th place |
From: jacko_vdz | Posted: 12/7/2011 8:01:27 PM | #192 Same bracket here and I'm in the same boat. I had Alucard > Frog until the very last day when i finally changed. I was tossing that up (and Frog > Chell/GlaDOS) the entire time. Always knew that division was going to screw me up, it's such a clusterf***. no regrets though I'm happy to go out on a Frog match. --- Tofa7 - LoZ-LoD | Hardcore "Thank you, thank you, no applause necessary, just send money..." |
Even if 007/006 would get crushed, it's the only way I'd ever see 006 in a contest format! You could always put him in one of Goldeneye's pictures whenever we get our next games contest. --- Pokemon VGC2011 US Nationals - 54th place Pokemon VGC2012 NW Regional - 16th place |
Even if 007/006 would get crushed, it's the only way I'd ever see 006 in a contest format! Now that I think of it, they sound like a top rivalry in the making. The game has strength, the rivalry has strength, and you just gotta assume Bond individually would be strong enough. It's Nintendo and late 90's. Basically everything 006 says to you is awesome and he keeps reappearing in multiple levels to thwart you - with his actions too, not just derp I'm here to make fun of you. Contest pics with him falling off the cradle and with the iconic "For England?" exchange - how could you vote against it? --- "Ovelia ... SPOILERS IN THE KEYWORDS WOOPS" - Vormav |
Missingno
was a joke entry though. One that a lot of people related to but you
nominated him again he wouldnt do as well. See l block. Pokemon is fascinating because it has more relevant entities than any other franchise. I believe if blastoise was nominated instead of charizard he would do similar things. Cant say the same for venosaur though. --- http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/5716/linkpron.gif |
Mario vs Sonic - 9% off the Oracle Average MMX vs MK - 5% off the Oracle Average Trainers vs Fighters - Lotsa % off the Oracle Average My point is that even this far into the contest, matches are still surprising us. Based on this (3/3 R3 matches that are somewhat or very surprising in percentage), can we really make definitive, "guaranteed" claims about any remaining R3 match apart from Link's? I don't buy that Cloud/Seph are a lock over the Snakes, not when we're still missing stuff this badly. A clear favorite, sure, but not a lock. --- Yoblazer: http://oi52.tinypic.com/ad21i1.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
And
Ryu/Ken totally tied that last update. Proving that a cut is possible,
now let's see it (how shamed are the SF fans, hoping for crap like
this). --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/25z1non.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
Id say Cloud>snake is still lock. I have cloud winning contest btw. --- http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/5716/linkpron.gif |
Okay
I thought the absolute maximum would be 55% but THIS much?Nobody
expected and that I am certain.Anyway this is also the match where any
change to make the leaderboard dissappears.I wonder how many perfects
and battle perfects we lose? --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/7/2011 4:51:06 AM | message detail | quote Mario vs Sonic - 9% off the Oracle Average MMX vs MK - 5% off the Oracle Average Trainers vs Fighters - Lotsa % off the Oracle Average This is the third time I have gotten burned by the Trainers in the Oracle for greatly underestimating them. Next time around, the Trainers won't be burning me again as they will very likely get above 60% next round as well. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as BlAcK TuRtLe, Guru Champ! |
And here I was expecting the Fighters to 60/40 the Trainers! Damn, though. I could see these guys beating Cloud/Sephiroth with enough momentum. So how many Pokemon characters are we getting into the next character contest? Will we rally for Stadium, Pinball, Puzzle League, and Snap in the next games contest? Also, Charizard vs Batman. --- Current Let's Play: Final Fantasy IV (FF2US) http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3445328 |
sheesh. there is a lot of SF2 lost?! in here. I hate Pokemon matches because this topic loses all rationale --- xyzzy |
From: The_Djoker | #213 Did you even see MissingNo.'s trends? It didn't behave like a joke character at all. MissingNo. was mostly raw strength and not really joke status. The Pokémon fanbase backed him up, and that's pretty much all there is to say about that. Also, to people wondering why Red is strong - think about how Pokémon was marketed. "Become the Pokémon Master", "Catch them all", etc. The game talks to you in second person, not in third person. You are Red much more than you are any other silent protagonist. Meanwhile, Blue is the dick we all knew in our childhoods. These guys can channel the RBY strength better than anything else could. --- Surskit .-#Elements of Water#-. |
-Tofa7- posted... Same bracket here and I'm in the same boat. I had Alucard > Frog until the very last day when i finally changed. I was tossing that up (and Frog > Chell/GlaDOS) the entire time. Always knew that division was going to screw me up, it's such a clusterf***. no regrets though I'm happy to go out on a Frog match. Ah that makes sense. See, I even checked the Guru site after most brackets had been put up, and I didn't see anyone who had the exact same picks as me. I really want to see Frog win, but I'll probably hedge my bets with the battle challenge. --- "I am riding the Poke-wave, using the metaphorical Surf and hopping on my Blastoise, all the way to Mario vs Bowser." - RPGLord |
Surskit posted... Meanwhile, Blue is the dick we all knew in our childhoods. These guys can channel the RBY strength better than anything else could. To me, Blue was the guy who always had cooler Pokemon than mine. He'd just appear out of nowhere when you're unprepared, and even if you beat him, he ain't even mad 'cause he's caught more Pokemon than you. --- "I am riding the Poke-wave, using the metaphorical Surf and hopping on my Blastoise, all the way to Mario vs Bowser." - RPGLord |
From: Surskit | #221 Sure if you think Yoshi gets 46% on Sephiroth. He grew in strength, but his appeal was that of a joke character. L Block was a bandwagon and built up steam. I'm talking purely based on how voters vote. He's a joke character. Just like Bidoof or Mudkip. If missingno entered again he wouldn't be as strong. I'm pretty sure of that. People like new things, but these characters are consistent enough to stick. I don't include Charizard in this category, because he's a legit powerhouse pokemon that people care about. --- http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/5716/linkpron.gif |
...well done, trainers. I was hoping to see how much worse Mario/Bowser would beat Samus/Ridley than Mario > Samus alone, but now it's looking pretty unlikely! --- http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3492/eponaharr.jpg Nominate E P O N A. |
Oh wow, I thought that the Trainers would win but this isn't even close. --- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/2bigwigpngut.png |
jacko_vdz posted... Surskit posted... Meanwhile, Blue is the dick we all knew in our childhoods. These guys can channel the RBY strength better than anything else could. To me, Blue was the guy who always had cooler Pokemon than mine. He'd just appear out of nowhere when you're unprepared, and even if you beat him, he ain't even mad 'cause he's caught more Pokemon than you. Yeah, I was always jealous that he had such high-level, evolved pokemon early in the game. I like where he says, "I already caught 40 kinds, pal!" when the most you could have by that point without trading is 20-25. --- Red vs. Blue what is even special about this. -ZFS here's a guy that doesn't get it! No desire to be the very best! -SHINE GET 64 |
Man,
I'll never understand the people have for Pokemon. I played R/B/Y,
caught 150, then never touched the series again. There are very few
rivalries in this bracket I would vote Red/Blue over because it's such a
shallow, pointless rivalry. Hell, even Crono/Lavos is a better rivalry. --- Game of the Decade? More like Guru of the Decade mirite? |
From: Wii_TuRtLe | #228 Even more than Team Rocket, the Gym Challenge, or the Pokedex, the rivalry with Blue was the entire point of the game, IMO --- http://img.imgcake.com/RegaroUlquiorrapngse.png |
From: Wii_TuRtLe | #228 I can't understand why you would say something like that. Crono/Lavos has no rivalry. Red/Blue is a legit Rivalry because they are rivals in the game from the start and Battle each other throughout the game. IT's the very definition of a Rivalry. Crono/Lavos is just a random enemy against the main hero. Big deal. The term rivalry has to have consistency, it has to have longevity and mean something. These guys were rivals from the very beginning as spoken by the words of the Oak the professor. --- http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/5716/linkpron.gif |
I only wish I had the Pokemon Trainers going farther than what I already do! --- Xbox Live Gamertag: ffmasterjose Your favorite Trapper's favorite Trapper |
I
don't think people would be reacting to this result nearly as much if
they have preconceived notions of what the trainers should have done
based on Red in 2010. Faulty reasoning, as that was Brawl Red, and this
is RBY Red. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
From: Surskit | #221 You mean absurdly frontloaded and completely dying off in the night time? Yeah, Missingno benefited from Pokemon fans knowing it, but it was a joke character through and through. --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/ExTha/10and14.jpg "I was wrong." - SmartMuffin |
Missingno
lost the early vote to Crono and wasn't doing so hot against Yoshi
early on. If you're trying to use vs. FF7 trends as evidence for him
being a joke character, congrats, you just named every Nintendo
character ever. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
these
really are joke trends. not even SF's disastrous morning vote can slow
down Red and Blue throwing percentage to the wind. day vote probably
slows this down somewhat but Ryu/Ken might knock this down another 2% or
so. this doesn't look nearly as crazy now as it did at midnight. --- add the c and back away iphonesience |
Glad the trainers won. Cool upset to see. Hopefully they can win the entire contest. --- `·.,¸¸,.·´Ż`·.,¸¸,.·´Ż`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´Ż`·.,¸¸,.·´Ż`·.,¸¸,.· Can't tell if serious. |
Oh
and trainers is the better rivalry here. Ryu/Ken isn't really that good
in the SF universe. Ryu/Akuma or Ryu/Sagat would have been far better. --- I don't know of any cases of a straight woman finding a man "too gorgeous" to kill. -Mega They've never met Ulti. -RPGLord95 |
Yeah I never got why Ryu/Ken is preferred over Ryu/Akuma. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
From: KamikazePotato | #234 I'm okay with this. --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/ExTha/10and14.jpg "I was wrong." - SmartMuffin |
They have lost since the last time I checked more than 2 percent.But still it is a great victory. --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
KamikazePotato posted... Yeah I never got why Ryu/Ken is preferred over Ryu/Akuma. I'm not sure why everyone assumes rivalry has to be hero/villain. Ryu/Ken is arguably the best rivalry in the contest as they are both competing to be better than the other throughout the entire series. Same reason why X/Zero is one of the better rivalries in the contest. --- Game of the Decade? More like Guru of the Decade mirite? |
From: KamikazePotato | #238 Because Ryu/Akuma is primarily an Alpha-only thing, and the Alpha games aren't nearly as popular. As Dan/Sagat so clearly demonstrated. --- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." |
We all live, in a pokemon world. I wanna be, the greatest master of them all. We all live, in a pokemon world I put myself to the test, to be better than all the rest. LOLOLOLOLOL. Fighters. Whoever made the whole speech about luck/crapshoot/gut reactions was right, if you let all these ridiculous stats mess with your head you'll end up massively overthinking your choices. When I made my bracket and saw Red/Blue I didn't even think about it, I knew they would go to the final 4 at the very least, the rivalry is classic and pokemon is hugely popular here. |
Wow,
Trainers had a massive early vote. Just checked on it for the first
time this morning and I realize that the Trainers could probably have
60% at the freeze against Cloud/Sephy and still lose easily. |
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From: Wii_TuRtLe | #241 Red/blue fall into that category too and imo has way more of a meaningful rivalry.. Did you ever watch the anime? not canon to the games but still. Great Rivalry --- http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/5716/linkpron.gif |
KamikazePotato posted... Yeah I never got why Ryu/Ken is preferred over Ryu/Akuma. A big part of it is that Ken is by far the 2nd most played character. Hell, from my experience with SF4 online, I saw more Kens than Ryus. Plus they go all the way back to the 80s game originally just being a color swap, so theres more connection felt between them. Also, I feel pretty good about it staying under 60% here. I feel that the first hour was just so frontloaded that there is little chance the Trainers get close to that kinda % again. Probably just gonna stall the rest of the match if anything. --- http://raptr.com/badge/cf898f37d9c30ef120ada6c35e636ad3/fs.png http://myanimelist.net/signature/RyanSaotome.png |
Dang
Pokemon has certainly lost a lot of percentage. What's the biggest
percentage change we've seen in a match outside of the first hour? --- Inter-planetary-mega-stellar-hydro-static. There's no gravity between us. Our love is automatic. |
Trainers should get back over 60% with the ASV . Even if they don't this is still very impressive. --- ... |
Never was sure why Red/Blue winning was ever in question. I remember Black Turtle saying that Ryu/Ken was going to win because it was the same situation as MM/GSC last year. He got that half right, it was the same situation, only Red/Blue is the Majora's Mask this time around. --- Something something something ^Poorly disguised anti-caps sig |
