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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1030
They're not. Blue is Gary Oak Red is Ash Blue is the rival of RBY Red is the playable character of RBY Blue was not in SSBB Red was in SSBB (more or less) Blue was the gym leader in GSC Red was the final boss of GSC --- http://i.imgur.com/LjoWT.png |
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Well,
most people go with a personalized name for their character and most of
those who don't go with the default name "Ash". I do kinda wonder how
many people have played RBY and don't know that the main character's
official name is Red. --- Pokemon VGC2011 US Nationals - 54th place Pokemon VGC2012 NW Regional - 16th place |
Red and Blue are not the same character. That's literally like calling Ryu and Ken the same character. --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/ExTha/10and14.jpg "I was wrong." - SmartMuffin |
TRE Public Account posted... In Pokemon Blue you still play as Red but (one of) his default names is Blue. Officially he's Red, though. Nah, in red version the default names are Red, Ash, Jack and one other (not blue) for your trainer, and the rivals are Blue, Gary, John and another. In blue version this is reversed. --- "I am riding the Poke-wave, using the metaphorical Surf and hopping on my Blastoise, all the way to Mario vs Bowser." - RPGLord |
Oh wait I misunderstood, on phone sorry! --- "I am riding the Poke-wave, using the metaphorical Surf and hopping on my Blastoise, all the way to Mario vs Bowser." - RPGLord |
From: ExThaNemesis | #203 At least Ryu and Ken are effectively clones in terms of combat. Red/Blue have very different "move sets"! --- http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n231/sihp/waluigi.gif |
From: FateStayAlbion | #200 All you're demonstrating right now is that their names are worth nothing. Nobody recognizes them by their names. I'm sure I could poll people who played RBY about what the name of the main character was, and most everyone would either say Ash, whatever they named them or they just wouldn't know. The only reason you'd know this guy's name is Red is if you played Red version and chose the default name (or if you're into Pokémon more than average person/some other source). I think proof of how important it is for these ex-Pokémon fans to recognize the characters can be seen in the performance differences between RBY and DPP. DPP represents the core Pokémon fanbase. The RBY strength comes from that core PLUS everyone else that isn't huge on Pokémon anymore (obviously there's a minority in which this doesn't apply). If Red gets new art, he gets the core fanbase (about DPP level strength + those who still recognize him). If he gets his older art/sprites, then he gets the core + the RBY players. tl;dr: Blue is stronger than Red because Blue is always recognizable as the RBY rival, whereas Red is not always recognizable as the playable character in RBY. --- Surskit .-#Elements of Water#-. |
The
character known as "Pokemon Trainer Red" in the GameFAQs contests is
the playable character in Pokemon RBY and the remakes FireRed and
LeafGreen. In Pokemon Red (and Yellow, I think), one of his default
names is Red and other is Ash. In Pokemon Blue, his default name is Blue
(but he still looks the same as in Pokemon Red and Yellow). He also
shows up as the final boss in GSC (and remakes) where is name is Red. In
Pokemon Stadium 2 (the N64 game associated with GSC) he goes by the
name Red. His sprite in the remakes (FireRed, LeafGreen, HearthGold,
SoulSilver) is quite different from his original RBY sprite and looks
the same as his SSBB model. Some people believe Ash from the anime is
the same person as Red, some people disagree. The character known as "Pokemon Trainer Blue" in the GameFAQs contests is the rival character in Pokemon RBY. In Red (and Yellow, I think) one of his default names is Blue or Gary. In Blue one of his default names is Red but he still looks exactly like his does in Pokemon Red/Yellow. He shows up again as a Gym Leader in GSC and the remakes under the name Blue. In Pokemon Stadium 1 (the N64 game associated with RBY) he has the name "Rival" while in Pokemon Stadium 2 he goes by the name Blue. He looks pretty similar in all the games he is in. I believe he's generally considered to be the same person as Gary from the anime. I wonder if Red/Rival would do even better than Red/Blue since his rival is even named Rival and Red/Blue voters would still recognize Rival as Blue. --- Pokemon VGC2011 US Nationals - 54th place Pokemon VGC2012 NW Regional - 16th place |
So
X / Zero begins at ~56% and then bleeds all night and day, we'll say
down to 52%. Why didn't the match just start that way then? Or get there
with an hour or two of the board vote? --- "Ovelia ... SPOILERS IN THE KEYWORDS WOOPS" - Vormav |
So
X / Zero begins at ~56% and then bleeds all night and day, we'll say
down to 52%. Why didn't the match just start that way then? Or get there
with an hour or two of the board vote? Because this is not the same pool of people that are voting at any given time. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Rivalry Rumble: 61/68 Today: Mega Man X/Zero |
Demographics keep matches from being boring, thankfully! It'd be terrible if every match stabilized after 5 minutes! --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
http://image.com.com/gamefaqs/images/rivals/rivals-51-1.jpg http://image.com.com/gamefaqs/images/rivals/rivals-51-2.jpg http://image.com.com/gamefaqs/images/rivals/rivals-51-3.jpg http://image.com.com/gamefaqs/images/rivals/rivals-51-4.jpg --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
whoever made those last two should probably feel bad --- "When I was a young man, I had liberty, but I did not see it. I had time, but I did not know it." |
Trainers to win with 70% confirmed --- thelefty for analysis crew 2008 imo -tranny I have a third degree burn in flame-o-nomics -Sir Chris |
Those
pics are pretty balanced, honestly. If you're a Pokemon fan, you like
Pokemon's pics. If you're a Street Fighter fan, you like Street
Fighter's pics. For the most part. Third pic is a bit of a mess. --- http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab48/Leonhart4/Squall.jpg |
I think that's that true for pic 1/2. I don't think either side is particularly good for 3/4. --- "When I was a young man, I had liberty, but I did not see it. I had time, but I did not know it." |
sorry can't hear you over all this Charizard and Blastoise --- thelefty for analysis crew 2008 imo -tranny I have a third degree burn in flame-o-nomics -Sir Chris |
The three starters together and Gary not giving a **** saves the third pic. --- *huggles* |
Ugh,
I would have thought the pic makers would have had more decency than to
try to squeeze in extra strength for the trainers. That second picture
the trainers aren't even the main focus. And what's with the lettering in the first picture? Someone literally just opened paint and put in a text box? --- Game of the decade? More like Guru of the decade mirite? |
I just 'kind of' don't get it because I have no attachment to Pokemon whatsoever You tell me MAN THESE PICS ARE SO AWESOME But to me, they're just cool. They're well made But people say OH MAN VICTORY IS ALL BUT ASSURED And it doesn't really click with me I guess I'll take your word for it that these pics are SO AWESOME --- "Why must we always choose between certain death and probable death?" "I'm in an epic battle to the death, FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF!" |
I also don't put as much stock in Pic Factor as most people around here seem to So there's probably that, too --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
That's just Regaro being Regaro. He believes Pokemon dominates with 70% or something. --- "When I was a young man, I had liberty, but I did not see it. I had time, but I did not know it." |
If Blue had managed to get into the villains contest, could he have beaten Diablo? --- Xbox Live: Mach Tornado PSN: HeyGuysItsGhoul |
Well,
if you believe Pokemon wins big, then these pics are just a formality
anyway. Pic Factor isn't going to turn 50/50 into 60/40 here. If you
think the Trainers win 60/40, then they win regardless of what the
pictures look like. --- http://www.gifsoup.com/view/593815/frasier-and-niles-dance-o.gif |
picture doesn't matter. The words "pokemon" is enough to wake up the drones. --- http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/5716/linkpron.gif |
From: ZFS | #223 Not quite 70%, but I don't think this match should be in any sort of doubt at this point. --- http://img.imgcake.com/RegaroUlquiorrapngse.png |
Welp,
my failure to get Team Rocket and Cammy on the front page, coupled with
overconfident attitude of some Pokemon supporters has once again put me
in a familiar position of wishing for Poke-destruction. I still don't
expect Ryu/Ken to win, but I'll be rooting for it sooooo good. Hope that
Majora's Mask fighting spirit rubs off on em! --- Yoblazer: http://8board.webs.com/ariel.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
I guess I'll take your word for it that these pics are SO AWESOME First pic has trainers as overworld sprites in an iconic location from RBY. Second pic has Charizard and Blastoise as the clear focus. Third one has the three starters in them. Fourth one has Pallet Town (first battle point) + Pokémon League (last battle point), which may or may not be a plus. I don't think any of these give a clear advantage to the Trainers, considering the Fighters got good pictures as well that remind us of several "nostalgic" or iconic aspects of the series: First pic has a double Hadouken stance, which is super badass. Second one has Hadouken + life bars, not to mention that's Ken's stage right there! Third one is... uh, ok, I'll give you this one. Last one should be good for us Arcade SFII players (portraits + Ryu's stage, not to mention the SFI font). --- Surskit .-#Elements of Water#-. |
http://image.com.com/gamefaqs/images/rivals/rivals-51-2.jpg .the best SF pic goes up against the best Pokemon pic? Not good for fighters. --- http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/5716/linkpron.gif |
Honestly the way I see it, talking advantages: First one is probably balanced. No Pokemon is big but it's countered by SF1 art and just a better flow in the Pokemon half. Second one is advantage trainers because it looks more like Charizard vs Blastoise than Red vs Blue. This is the strongest pic for both sides, though. Third one is a push, but I'd lean fighters. I prefer the fighters by a good deal but it is SF4 art and the energy crap is distracting so I'm not sure it's helpful-- then again the action in the pic might make people think Ryu/Ken's side looks cooler at least. And on the trainer's side you've got no sprites or anything. Fourth one fighters have the advantage because their half is kinda funny and trainers half is kind of a mess. I'm not saying they get joke voted per se but I have a hard time seeing any SF fan voting trainers there. So yeah I don't get where all the "the pics favor trainers" hype is coming from. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
Literally Charizard vs. Blastoise on one of those pics. --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/pjbasis.png |
Only 2 pictures are used right?Trainers have Charizard in all pictures except 1 anyway so they win.Nice. --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
I know I'm biased but the only one where the Trainers actually looks good in the second picture IMO. Ryu and Ken are going to HADOKEN the trainers/avatars that nobody but the Pokemaniacs cares about! I bet that they will win with more than 55%! --- Ngamer64: Zylo, you're making less sense every day. Black Turtle > Me |
From: pjbasis | #233 Which is an unfair fight. Blastoise would 1 hit KO Charizard. --- http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/5716/linkpron.gif |
So
if Trainers get more than 55% is it safe to assume they'll stomp Samus
too because i just cannot see how Samus doesn't get SFF'd by Trainers in
that matchup. Samus looks weak this contest too. --- http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/5716/linkpron.gif |
Whoever wins probably beats Samus. --- "When I was a young man, I had liberty, but I did not see it. I had time, but I did not know it." |
The_Djoker posted... So if Trainers get more than 55% is it safe to assume they'll stomp Samus too because i just cannot see how Samus doesn't get SFF'd by Trainers in that matchup. Samus looks weak this contest too. Unless Samus destroys the Bosses, I think all they need is to beat Ryu/Ken to reach the semis. --- Ngamer64: Zylo, you're making less sense every day. Black Turtle > Me |
Come on Trainers. I love those pics. --- "The great fallacy is that the game is first and foremost about winning. It's nothing of the kind. The game is about glory." - Danny Blanchflower |
If
you think Trainers beat Samus, no matter what, I don't know why your
mind changes if Ryu/Ken win, unless you think the Trainers win via rSFF. --- "I can set you free, mate." "My freedom was forfeit long ago!" |
From: LeonhartFour | #241 I would say this is a significant possibility. I'd definitely put Pokemon RBY higher on the Nintendo Hierarchy than Metroid relate things, though I'd put Metroid above other Pokemon games. --- "Link has spoken for years. And music is his language" -YoBlazer |
Well, it doesn't really matter if R/B/Y is higher than Metroid. Is Red/Blue higher than Samus? --- http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/8718/leonflowchart.png |
Surskit posted... tl;dr: Blue is stronger than Red because Blue is always recognizable as the RBY rival, whereas Red is not always recognizable as the playable character in RBY. THIS x 1000. Also because of GMFOF (Gary Mother F****** Oak Factor) --- "I am riding the Poke-wave, using the metaphorical Surf and hopping on my Blastoise, all the way to Mario vs Bowser." - RPGLord |
The_Djoker posted... picture doesn't matter. The words "pokemon" is enough to wake up the drones. Oh my god. Because Pokemon Trainer Red was an absolute beast last Character battle, right? Wait I'm probably getting trolled. --- "I am riding the Poke-wave, using the metaphorical Surf and hopping on my Blastoise, all the way to Mario vs Bowser." - RPGLord |
From: LeonhartFour | #243 I believe that is likely true as well. --- "Link has spoken for years. And music is his language" -YoBlazer |
Demographics keep matches from being boring, thankfully! It'd be terrible if every match stabilized after 5 minutes! Yeah the specific demographics were what I was trying to figure out. So I guess contest enthusiasts were a bit more in favor of X / Zero, who then dropped over night while Europe voted, but instead of going back up during the day they continued to drop because American casual voters were also more in favor of Sub-Zero / Scorp? --- "Ovelia ... SPOILERS IN THE KEYWORDS WOOPS" - Vormav |
Mega Man traditionally has a great four hours and then falls off from there. CT does the same thing -- see Frog/Glados. --- xyzzy |
From: AlecTrevelyan006 | #246 Well, I feel like if Red/Blue are higher on the totem pole than Samus/Ridley, then they're stronger indirectly as well. I don't know if I really buy "Stronger indirectly but would lose directly" here. --- http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2011/8/22/2094c2de-bae8-4f5b-9f27-67eaff0aaeaf.jpg |
TRE Public Account posted... Some people believe Ash from the anime is the same person as Red, some people disagree. I believe he's generally considered to be the same person as Gary from the anime. I thought it was pretty well established that while the anime, games, and manga tell similar stories (e.g. new trainer gets his first Pokemon, acquires a rival, tries to become a Pokemon Master / make his way to the Elite 4), they aren't actually the same characters. Maybe it's just me, though. --- "Luxe, calme et volupte." - Charles Baudelaire, The Invitation to the Voyage |
