GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1030
I'm
also taking Trainers in my perfect battle bracket. I'm pretty nervous
though. Lots of people declaring an easy win for Trainers makes me fear
they'll have to eat their words. The Ryu/Ken supporters seem more
quietly confident in a close, hard fought victory. --- http://speeddemosarchive.com/MetroidPrime.html#PAL100 |
ASV
should be interesting, SZ/Scorpion have been gaining percent in US and
Canada, at one point in the morning they were at 53.5% and 56.5%
respectively. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Rivalry Rumble: 61/68 Today: Mega Man X/Zero |
I don't think it will be a close match no matter which way it goes. --- caps |
this would be a hilarious comeback. maybe if we had real voters this could have happened. so much confidence in the Trainers based on beating up Waluigi --- add the c and back away iphonesience |
I
equate the Trainers strength to Charizard in 2010, and I think that's a
wonderful comparison not only considering Charizard and Blastoise will
be in the picture, but also that Charizard was able to finish 4% ahead
of Bowser. The Trainers have that kind of strength. Considering Bowser could beat Ryu/Dante/Sora any old day (with around 55-56%), I'll go with Trainers too. Unless Charizard isn't in the match pic. Then it turns into a toss up that could go either way. --- http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=5364544 |
There's
no chance for a comeback, but the main reason Sub-Zero and Scorpion
have been stalling is that they've been gaining support in North
America. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Rivalry Rumble: 61/68 Today: Mega Man X/Zero |
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/images/show_graph.php?matchnum=4559&type=1&seconds=900&max=0 what's up with that random 3am spike --- add the c and back away iphonesience |
junk_funk posted... I equate the Trainers strength to Charizard in 2010, and I think that's a wonderful comparison not only considering Charizard and Blastoise will be in the picture, but also that Charizard was able to finish 4% ahead of Bowser. The Trainers have that kind of strength. Considering Bowser could beat Ryu/Dante/Sora any old day (with around 55-56%), I'll go with Trainers too. Unless Charizard isn't in the match pic. Then it turns into a toss up that could go either way. 55-56%? That's Noble Nine level. There isn't much difference between Ryu and Bowser these days (their 2005 match notwithstanding). As a matter of fact, I'd take Ryu over Bowser in a close match now that SF4 and SSF4 have come out, combined with Bowser's general suckiness lately. --- Game of the Decade? More like Guru of the Decade mirite? |
Last character battle I took Sora > Mario! LOL Wait, people actually thought this would happen? How? --- "Ovelia ... SPOILERS IN THE KEYWORDS WOOPS" - Vormav |
Surprise KH3 announcement. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Rivalry Rumble: 61/68 Today: Mega Man X/Zero |
Still wouldn't tip the scale! --- Black: 3310-7431-2094 |
Glad to see all these people picking trainers in the battle, it'll be moving day for me once the fighters win. --- - |
Ninjas teasing to win an hour again! --- "So cold. I am always by your side." "There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!" |
Glad to see all these people picking trainers in the battle, it'll be moving day for me once the fighters win. It'll also be moving day when Red/Blue wins. =D --- Pokemon VGC2011 US Nationals - 54th place Pokemon VGC2012 NW Regional - 16th place |
If ninjas won this they probably would've picked up a bandwagon for next round, oh well. |
Not that it would have mattered against mario, but yeah. |
Why does everyone keep saying Rivalry Factor isn't that big a deal when everyone is picking the guy who went even with Revolver F***ing Ocelot to outdo Ryu? --- Current Let's Play: Final Fantasy IV (FF2US) http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3445328 |
Everyone's
saying the rivalry factor is a big deal, but they're forgetting that it
applies to both competitors. Ryu/Ken is one of the best rivalries in
the bracket. Red/Blue, not so much. --- Game of the Decade? More like Guru of the Decade mirite? |
X/Zero have gained less than 300 votes on their lead in the last 8 hours. Pretty impressive stalling for Sub/Scorp here. --- http://www.gifsoup.com/view/593815/frasier-and-niles-dance-o.gif |
Not_Wylvane posted... Why does everyone keep saying Rivalry Factor isn't that big a deal when everyone is picking the guy who went even with Revolver F***ing Ocelot to outdo Ryu? Pokefans are blindly loyal to their franchise. --- http://raptr.com/badge/cf898f37d9c30ef120ada6c35e636ad3/fs.png http://myanimelist.net/signature/RyanSaotome.png |
From: Wii_TuRtLe | #168 How do you come to that conclusion? Are you saying it's a bad rivalry in game? Because for a whole generation, that is one of the definining rivalries in history. Since this contest started, I've asked a few friends from my age group (who aren't big videogame nerds like me) what their go to "rivalry" in videogames as a kid was, and they overwhelmingly picked the trainers. Now, they probably are and were more casual than most of GameFAQs, but Pokemon infiltrated everything in those years and the point remains. Are you saying it's a bad rivalry in terms of boosting strength? Because that seems very unlikely. --- "nah, it's not my team if I drop pitchers for merely being horrible" -War13104 |
Valle vs Daigo is more of a rivalry than Ryu vs Ken. --- caps |
I
wouldn't say it's rivalry factor as much as it's the fact that this
contest is more like a games/series contest than a character battle. --- Anyone who has appeared in a video game should be allowed in the next character battle. |
Everyone's
saying the rivalry factor is a big deal, but they're forgetting that it
applies to both competitors. Ryu/Ken is one of the best rivalries in
the bracket. Red/Blue, not so much. Do you believe Ryu would get a higher percentage on Red than Ryu/Ken will get on Red/Blue? --- Pokemon VGC2011 US Nationals - 54th place Pokemon VGC2012 NW Regional - 16th place |
From: tennisboy213 | #173 This for the most part. But MMX would double MK here. --- caps |
It's
probably worth pointing out that the stats topic likely has a different
age demographic from the site as a whole. The site as a whole splits,
as of 3rd Sep, like so: 40% under 21 36% between 21 and 25 24% over 25 I'd expect Pokemon would do much better in the 40% group than in the 24% group. --- Praise the Black Turtle, Game of the Decade Guru Champ. (Well, I never promised creativity, did I?!) |
From: TRE Public Account | #174 Red/Blue is definitely stronger as a duo, but at the same time I'm watching the guy who got over 60% on Red and his strong rival barely beating two fighters in a weaker series. I can understand picking Red/Blue winning if you think their rivalry is huge enough, but basing it purely on PokePower is pure bulls*** when we've already seen it fail Red in the previous character contest. Edit: To clarify, it's safe to say most of GameFAQs is familiar with RBY, and thus may find Red/Blue more memorable a rivalry than the duo in Street Fighter, another iconic rivalry though on a less popular franchise here. If this was, say, Red/Giovanni, obviously they would lose. Thus the rivalry is much more important here than the mere fact that they're characters from Pokemon. That they're a rivalry from Pokemon is the important point, and even if it was something dumb like Red/Giovanni they still would've made it this far because of f***ing Waluigi, but if this was simply a four-way between the four characters, I'd easily take Ryu over Red. I'm just saying that if Red/Blue win, it's proof positive that Rivalry is a huge component to this contest, which sounds obvious (even though I went the opposite when making my bracket) yet I still see people saying otherwise. --- Current Let's Play: Final Fantasy IV (FF2US) http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3445328 |
I'm
not disputing the fact that Red/Blue has a lot of ground to make up
with rivalry factor to catch up to Ryu/Ken. My issue was more with that
opinion that Ryu/Ken will benefit more from rivalry factor than
Red/Blue. If this is true, Red/Blue are going to get killed out there
tommorow and I really doubt that will happen. --- Pokemon VGC2011 US Nationals - 54th place Pokemon VGC2012 NW Regional - 16th place |
From: TRE Public Account | #178 I do think Red/Blue have more to gain from their rivalry just because their game has much more exposure on GameFAQs than Ryu/Ken's series. Of course, whether it's enough to overcome the gain Ryu/Ken also get plus whatever gap naturally separates Ryu from Red, I kinda doubt. While Pokemon can do some crazy things, people also have a tendency to overestimate it quite a bit, and even in the most lop-sided pics the stronger characters still won, even if by hilariously close margins. --- Current Let's Play: Final Fantasy IV (FF2US) http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3445328 |
Does Red even beat Ken in a 1v1? --- http://raptr.com/badge/cf898f37d9c30ef120ada6c35e636ad3/fs.png http://myanimelist.net/signature/RyanSaotome.png |
Comparing Red alone as a character from normal character battle contest to Red/Blue in the context of this contest is pointless. --- ... |
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3795 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3799 I imagine he would. --- Pokemon VGC2011 US Nationals - 54th place Pokemon VGC2012 NW Regional - 16th place |
I
think people are putting too much stock on Red and not enough on Blue.
Why do we assume Red is stronger than Blue? I'd say Blue is much, much
stronger than Red. He's probably the strongest human character. He's
hugely respected by the Pokémon fanbase, and casuals love him because of
the nostalgia he induces. In that sense, he's a lot more similar to,
say, Mewtwo than he is to Red. I'd take Blue to beat Ken comfortably,
and he could give Ryu a decent fight. --- Surskit .-#Elements of Water#-. |
From: FateStayAlbion | #180 Does Ocelot beat Wesker? --- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/26leonpngat.png http://img.imgcake.com/nio/daigohadoupnguj.png |
From: Surskit | #183 This man knows what's up. Even going off the anime, Gary is much more popular than Ash imo. --- http://www.celebrityclubber.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Sort_of_want.jpg |
argh Wylvane stop talking you're making me feel awful about picking two weak characters over Ryu and Ken --- add the c and back away iphonesience |
Sounds like Magus > Crono talk when you talk about Blue > Red like that. --- http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/2369/mythbattlers.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/Sensui22/1248835958206.png |
From: LeonhartFour | #187 Maybe. I mean I might not go as far as he said with "Blue is much stronger", but are they in the same league? Maybe. --- http://i45.tinypic.com/2jdhsno.gif |
Yeah,
I don't buy Blue being stronger. The only way a side character is gonna
be more popular than the main is if the main is really bad, like Tidus.
Otherwise, give me the main anyday. --- http://raptr.com/badge/cf898f37d9c30ef120ada6c35e636ad3/fs.png http://myanimelist.net/signature/RyanSaotome.png |
From: XIII_rocks | #185 That's because Gary is competent while Ash is a complete and utter failure at everything he does. The best episode was when Charizard took a nap during a Pokemon League match and Ash looked like a f***ing idiot while the entire world watched him fail. --- Current Let's Play: Final Fantasy IV (FF2US) http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3445328 |
I
think Red beats Blue in a 1v1 match. But Blue would do better anywhere
else. He has a bigger casual draw than Red, especially if Red doesn't
have his classic art or sprites. --- Surskit .-#Elements of Water#-. |
This
was brought up before, but did Rd's picture hurt him in the Character
Battle? He exclusively got SSBB pictures instead of RBY pictures and I
remember someone here asking if they were even the same character. It's
possible Red suffered from a mild case of ZSS Syndrome. --- Pokemon VGC2011 US Nationals - 54th place Pokemon VGC2012 NW Regional - 16th place |
From: Surskit | #191 I don't think Blue has a bigger casual draw. It wasn't Blue's character design in SSBB. I don't think the amount of people who prefer Gary to Ash would make up for that. --- http://www.mariocube.nl/upload/XIII1008171346.jpg |
From: Not_Wylvane | #190 Best episode in the history of the anime is DP188, actually. If we're going with early episodes, that's a pretty hilarious one. --- Official ~Trendsetter~ of Board 8 |
From: XIII_rocks | #193 The amount of people who know Red as Red are minimal. The amount of people who recognize Red's sprite or classic art are a lot more. I think they are very pic-dependent. Red has newer, updated art from FRLG or SSBB. Blue doesn't (he barely got redesigned, whereas Red's appearance is vastly different, probably in an attempt to set him apart from Ash). Blue has the nostalgia advantage, and thus would perform better in most cases (imo). When you see an updated Red art, you think "oh, a Pokémon Trainer". When you see the old one, you think the guy you played as in RBY. --- Surskit .-#Elements of Water#-. |
Do you play as Red in Blue? --- "The great GF...Bahamut." "...GF? I...? Using my powers...It is you humans...I fear..." |
In Pokemon Blue you still play as Red but (one of) his default names is Blue. Officially he's Red, though. --- Pokemon VGC2011 US Nationals - 54th place Pokemon VGC2012 NW Regional - 16th place |
Is your rival called Red in Blue? I'm starting to think both of these guys are essentially just the same strength if they're clones of one another --- http://raptr.com/badge/cf898f37d9c30ef120ada6c35e636ad3/fs.png http://myanimelist.net/signature/RyanSaotome.png |