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#301 | jacko_vdz | Posted 12/5/2011 9:15:37 PM | message detail
FateStayAlbion posted...
If this continues like it is, I feel pretty confident in the Fighters winning tomorrow

I'd take Trainers > X/Zero
I'd take Ninjas > Fighters

...Problem?
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#302 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/5/2011 9:15:44 PM | message detail
#303 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/5/2011 9:16:11 PM | message detail

From: jacko_vdz | #301
I'd take Ninjas > Fighters

...Problem?


Yeah, this is a bit of a problem.
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#304 | vcharon | Posted 12/5/2011 9:16:23 PM | message detail
Red/Blue kill Mega Man, I think. Ryu would be losing here as well by about the same margin I imagine.
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#305 | TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/5/2011 9:16:26 PM | message detail

From: jacko_vdz | #301
I'd take Ninjas > Fighters


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#306 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/5/2011 9:16:49 PM | message detail

From: vcharon | #304
Red/Blue kill Mega Man, I think. Ryu would be losing here as well by about the same margin I imagine.


I disagree strongly on both statements.
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#307 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 12/5/2011 9:17:09 PM | message detail
I probably have too much respect for X/Zero, it's true. Just thought they'd get a big rivalry boost!
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#308 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/5/2011 9:17:42 PM | message detail

From: IngmarBirdman | #299
I don't see X / Zero losing any of the intangibles either.


Subz/Scorpion is a lot more iconic. MMX/Zero is awesome; I'm not disparaging them, but ninjas might be one of the three most iconic and recognizable rivalries ever (given that Wily and Robotnik make their rivalries a lot lamer).
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#309 | SHINE GET 64 | Posted 12/5/2011 9:17:52 PM | message detail
Red and Blue win pretty handily tomorrow. By a bigger margin than what this match will end at
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#310 | Ngamer64 | Posted 12/5/2011 9:18:28 PM | message detail
Kotetsu534 posted...
Can't be the only person who's had the thought "If this was Ryu/Ken, they'd be winning here, or at least going 50/50. Do Red/Blue > X/Zero?"

I like the way this guy thinks.

As for the Guru picks,

Ryu/Ken - 128 (58.18%)
Red/Blue - 82 (37.27%)
Luigi/Waluigi - 7 (3.18%)
Fox/Wolf - 2 (0.91%)
Raynor/Kerrigan - 1 (0.45%)
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#311 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/5/2011 9:18:39 PM | message detail
Fighters got this on lockdown
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#312 | IngmarBirdman | Posted 12/5/2011 9:20:12 PM | message detail
Subz/Scorpion is a lot more iconic. MMX/Zero is awesome; I'm not disparaging them, but ninjas might be one of the three most iconic and recognizable rivalries ever.

Ah.

I thought they were equally well-regarded. Otherwise I would have stuck with 58%

(given that Wily and Robotnik make their rivalries a lot lamer)

Link going to be responsible for the first NN'er tripling another NN'er, albeit with a wonky format?
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#313 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/5/2011 9:20:17 PM | message detail

From: SHINE GET 64 | #309
Red and Blue win pretty handily tomorrow. By a bigger margin than what this match will end at


I wouldn't be surprised. If they do win tomorrow, by any margin, I'll consider them the #4 team in the bracket. I don't think they'd have any problem with teams hampered by Robotnik/Wily, and I'd take them over X/Zero and the Snakes.
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#314 | FateStayAlbion | Posted 12/5/2011 9:20:32 PM | message detail
Well, I feel X/Zero > Red/Blue, and Fighters > Ninjas

I don't think this match does anything to hurt my confidence, especially since it'll likely finish closer then its at now.
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#315 | vcharon | Posted 12/5/2011 9:23:53 PM | message detail | (edited)
Fighters didn't impress me against Fox; I really don't buy they are a whole lot stronger than MK here. Pokemon has looked too strong and the series has already shown it has a lot of momentum power. Virtually a 99% lock to win and win big, in my opinion.

Capcom has also had some negative press recently. I know that's pretty meaningless, but still. Seems to hamper Blizzard characters, one would think maybe eventually the same thing happens to Capcom entries.
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#316 | ZFS | Posted 12/5/2011 9:21:15 PM | message detail
Ryu/Ken still got this tomorrow. Should be a close match, though.
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#317 | TheOneAboveAll | Posted 12/5/2011 9:21:30 PM | message detail
Next.
#318 | th3l3fty | Posted 12/5/2011 9:21:37 PM | message detail
I'd take Red/Blue over X/Zero pretty easily
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#319 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/5/2011 9:22:07 PM | message detail

From: vcharon | #315
I really don't buy they are a whole lot stronger than MK here.


Street Fighter has always been more well liked and well respected than Mortal Kombat. I don't buy Ryu/Ken and Sub/Scorp being virtual equals here.
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#320 | ZFS | Posted 12/5/2011 9:22:19 PM | message detail
Also, yeah, Ryu would rock Sub. No doubt in my mind.
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#321 | jacko_vdz | Posted 12/5/2011 9:22:39 PM | message detail
TheKoolAidShoto posted...
From: jacko_vdz | #301
I'd take Ninjas > Fighters
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Seriously but, failing to double Fox/Wolf is less impressive then what Ninja's are doing here. Maybe i'm overestimating X/Zero though.

*puts on Ash hat*

Red/Blue are still 60/40ing fighters.
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#322 | paerarru | Posted 12/5/2011 9:23:08 PM | message detail
:looks at the pace of the lead:

Oh, come on, at least make it close... sigh.
#323 | vcharon | Posted 12/5/2011 9:23:14 PM | message detail
Ken would lose to either one on one, and I think their rivalry is more iconic than Street Fighter's. Just my opinion, maybe doesn't work on Gamefaqs but I think the results so far haven't proven it that.
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#324 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/5/2011 9:23:23 PM | message detail

From: jacko_vdz | #321
Seriously but, failing to double Fox/Wolf is less impressive then what Ninja's are doing here.


Failing to double DK/K. Rool is less impressive than failing to double Fox/Wolf
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#325 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/5/2011 9:24:06 PM | message detail
Ken would have a legit shot at beating Scorpion. Scorps has never been much more than a low midcarder. Sub-Zero beats Ken, yeah.

Ryu smokes all of them though.
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#326 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 12/5/2011 9:26:45 PM | message detail
Given how iconic stuff has done well for itself (See Robotnik actually HELPING Sonic against Kirby), I could see DK/K. Rool threatening or even beating Fox/Wolf.
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#327 | Lopen | Posted 12/5/2011 9:27:36 PM | message detail
Fox/Wolf is a lot more iconic than DK/K.Rool.

I think you're confusing iconic with OLD.
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#328 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/5/2011 9:28:06 PM | message detail
Eh, maybe. I doubt it though.

I think 72.5% on Yuna/Seymour is probably more impressive than 73% on Leon/Ada, too.

I'm sure a lot of people also think that's a push, but that looks better to me.
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#329 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 12/5/2011 9:28:19 PM | message detail
Indeed! Thank you for correcting me Lopen! As the Originator Of Old, I am ashamed to have forgotten!
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#330 | jacko_vdz | Posted 12/5/2011 9:28:43 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
From: jacko_vdz | #321
Seriously but, failing to double Fox/Wolf is less impressive then what Ninja's are doing here.
Failing to double DK/K. Rool is less impressive than failing to double Fox/Wolf


Ah touche, forgot about that match... I don't know if I would take DK/Rool > Space Animals.

By any means, I still think Ninjas would go toe to toe with Fighters in this format.
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#331 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/5/2011 9:30:23 PM | message detail

From: WarThaNemesis2 | #326
Given how iconic stuff has done well for itself (See Robotnik actually HELPING Sonic against Kirby), I could see DK/K. Rool threatening or even beating Fox/Wolf.


I passingly assumed Fox/Wolf had an automatic step or two on DK in this contest, but you raise an interesting point. I do think DKC would take any Star Fox game, even 64. Fox is also much more of a "Smash" guy than DK, and he might not get as much benefit from that in this, a contest that kinda encourages people to think about an entrant's "actual" games. The down side in this theory is that it makes Jill look even worse, as she lost to two glorified Smash bastards hiiiiiiii
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#332 | vcharon | Posted 12/5/2011 9:31:08 PM | message detail | (edited)
I think Ken is a clear second fiddle to Ryu where Sub-Zero and Scorpion are more of dual faces for the series. Scorpion is even intended to be the more popular one (though he is not here or in the MK fandom). Scorpion has a list of accomplishments as well and decent performances.

Ken's best performance is a narrow victory over someone who is probably the third or fourth strongest character from Resident Evil. I don't think Ken/Scorpion is a match.
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#333 | BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 12/5/2011 9:31:34 PM | message detail

From: th3l3fty | #318
I'd take Red/Blue over X/Zero pretty easily


lol

I guess you're forgetting that X already derailed that hype train. And Zero adds WAY more than blue does.

I can't wait until Ryu/Ken finally put this trainer talk to rest. The best thing I can hope for in this contest is that the guru cookie goes perfect, because it's already too far gone to save, so we might as well stroke our collective e-peen.
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#334 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 12/5/2011 9:33:59 PM | message detail | (edited)
PartOfYourWorld posted...
From: WarThaNemesis2 | #326
Given how iconic stuff has done well for itself (See Robotnik actually HELPING Sonic against Kirby), I could see DK/K. Rool threatening or even beating Fox/Wolf.
I passingly assumed Fox/Wolf had an automatic step or two on DK in this contest, but you raise an interesting point. I do think DKC would take any Star Fox game, even 64. Fox is also much more of a "Smash" guy than DK, and he might not get as much benefit from that in this, a contest that kinda encourages people to think about an entrant's "actual" games. The down side in this theory is that it makes Jill look even worse, as she lost to two glorified Smash bastards hiiiiiiii


I know using polls like these is terrible, but...

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4427

is my reasoning for now thinking DK/K. Rool takes Fox/Wolf. That's damn impressive by DKC, and I don't care about badly you think Mario Kart SFFs Star Fox, losing to Breath of Goddamn Fire and almost losing to Star Ocean while Chrono Trigger is in the poll is god awful.

Edit: This is after factoring in that DK/K. Rool is actually worth a damn. I'd have taken Fox/Wolf over Dk/K. Rool easily pre-contest, but well, performances have changed that.
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#335 | th3l3fty | Posted 12/5/2011 9:32:45 PM | message detail
Red/Blue is a completely different entity from just Red

Red is a character, Red vs. Blue is basically Pokemon RBY in its entirety
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#336 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/5/2011 9:33:38 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #331
I do think DKC would take any Star Fox game, even 64.


Neither series is very popular here, so that wouldn't necessarily be an accomplishment.

But I'll take Yuna/Seymour > Ezio/Borgia, so...
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#337 | GrapefruitKing | Posted 12/5/2011 9:33:41 PM | message detail
yes, more updates like this, X/Zero
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#338 | BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 12/5/2011 9:36:33 PM | message detail
Except as we've said time and time again, noone gives a crap about the Trainers. You can have a ridiculously strong game, and have all the characters be garbage. See FF6 until Dissidia came out. R/B/Y is popular because catching all the Pokemon was such an interesting concept, not because of the rivalry between Red/Blue. While I do agree that Red/Blue together are stronger than the sum of their parts, the sum of their parts isn't much to begin with. People are hyping them up because they SFF'd a character from the same company that was saddled with the weakest character in the contest? X/Zero and Ryu/Ken have been far more impressive against actual competition.
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#339 | vcharon | Posted 12/5/2011 9:38:54 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3851

One Pokemon, against Mario. Once the series gets rolling it is hard to take down. Charizard is a SINGLE Pokemon; it was clear however he was representing the entire game, much like Red/Blue are doing here. Unless you think Ryu can get 46.5% on Mario, of course.
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#340 | CP724 | Posted 12/5/2011 9:39:16 PM | message detail
What the hell were they supposed to do against luigi/waluigi to make them more impressive?
#341 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/5/2011 9:39:26 PM | message detail

From: vcharon | #339
Unless you think Ryu can get 46.5% on Mario, of course.


I'm not entirely sure why he has to.
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#342 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 12/5/2011 9:39:56 PM | message detail
Yep, panic averted. Back to picking Trainers with (slightly less) confidence.
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#343 | Lopen | Posted 12/5/2011 9:40:23 PM | message detail
If Ryu made a random ass run I bet he could get 46.5 on Mario.

Unfortunately that'd never happen. Well except maybe in this contest.
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#344 | vcharon | Posted 12/5/2011 9:41:29 PM | message detail
Nah, same run by the same unit. Pokemon running into Mario and going down in a similar fashion.
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#345 | BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 12/5/2011 9:41:35 PM | message detail

From: vcharon | #339
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3851

One Pokemon, against Mario. Once the series gets rolling it is hard to take down. Charizard is a SINGLE Pokemon; it was clear however he was representing the entire game, much like Red/Blue are doing here. Unless you think Ryu can get 46.5% on Mario, of course.


Ya, one Pokemon. Charizard upset Bowser in one of the biggest upsets ever, of course he was going to boost the next round. We see it all the time when an underdog advances farther than they should. Red/Blue haven't beaten anything of note yet. And if they somehow get past the fighters, there's no way they beat Samus, so it's a moot point.
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#346 | jacko_vdz | Posted 12/5/2011 9:41:48 PM | message detail
Tomorrow's match can't come fast enough.
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#347 | th3l3fty | Posted 12/5/2011 9:42:32 PM | message detail
you better believe tomorrow's match pics will have multiple Pokemon in them!
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#348 | BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 12/5/2011 9:43:32 PM | message detail

From: CP724 | #340
What the hell were they supposed to do against luigi/waluigi to make them more impressive?


There's nothing they could have done that day to impress me. That's how little I think of that team, especially on the receiving end of SFF. Had it been 80% against any other team I may have been impressed.

I still can't believe people had the uigi's winning that match.
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#349 | vcharon | Posted 12/5/2011 9:43:35 PM | message detail
Did you miss the Pokemon being inserted into the images for Red/Blue, BT? They're going to continue being there I bet. This is better than one Pokemon, it is effectively the entire series.
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#350 | BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 12/5/2011 9:44:26 PM | message detail

From: th3l3fty | #347
you better believe tomorrow's match pics will have multiple Pokemon in them!


And if they do then it's not much of a fair match, and people should complain as match pic rules always stated it had to be the characters involved in the poll only.
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