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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1028
If
you guys wanna think its SFF, go ahead. I just don't believe that two
mascots of opposing companies share fanbases to any significant degree. --- http://raptr.com/badge/cf898f37d9c30ef120ada6c35e636ad3/fs.png http://myanimelist.net/signature/RyanSaotome.png |
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/5/2011 12:03:27 AM | message detail Only lost 13/95 perfects. Either one upset wipes everyone or multiple people run the table. That's it now. And only 2 people banked on that one. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as BlAcK TuRtLe, Guru Champ! |
Good thing Sonic was wasted instead of allied with Mario. --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC |
I'll be shocked if Mario didn't win the board vote by a significant amount. --- Starcraft is my life, so without it I wouldn't exist. - Artosis |
If
you guys wanna think its SFF, go ahead. I just don't believe that two
mascots of opposing companies share fanbases to any significant degree. If this wasn't SFF Kirby would've stomped Sonic. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Rivalry Rumble: 57/64 Today: Mario/Bowser |
This
doesn't need to be SFF. There doesn't even need to be rivalry factor
or anything of the sort here. Mario/Sonic is around 60-40 normally, and
Bowser stomps the hell out of Robotnik. Dunno why 70 wasn't close to
the norm really. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
Score-Brackets-% Right 62------214--------95.33 61------106--------88.68 60------277--------94.22 59------100--------68.00 58------136--------72.06 57------221--------68.33 56------308--------68.51 55------387--------65.37 54------496--------66.94 53------599--------67.95 52------776--------68.30 51------854--------63.23 50------884--------62.67 49------953--------62.22 48------888--------60.59 47------951--------59.41 46------895--------60.45 45------872--------57.34 44------739--------58.05 43------674--------56.38 42------611--------55.16 41------559--------55.46 40------505--------57.82 39------424--------54.01 38------358--------49.16 37------311--------54.02 36------263--------58.56 35------215--------53.02 34------157--------51.59 33------143--------46.15 32------144--------44.44 31------97----------50.52 30------76----------40.79 29------69----------46.38 28------47----------40.43 27------43----------58.14 26------40----------27.50 25------17----------29.41 24------18----------33.33 23------10----------30.00 22------9------------11.11 21------9------------33.33 20------5------------60.00 19------6------------16.67 17------3------------33.33 12------5------------20.00 9--------6------------33.33 3--------8------------12.50 This would have been a disaster if Dante had managed to win the match instead of just keep it close. Without alts, 81% of the perfects, 83% of the -1s and about 79% of the -2s got the match right. After the top 3 tiers, prediction percentage quickly falls into the high 60s and fades from there. 11 users fell off the Top 50. Admiralnobody88, JeffreyRaze, TheChosenOnes, BenignShadow, NewerShadow, SSBB_GH3, blindhobo13, Prankster928, KamikazePotato, Exodus021 and one of legendmusketeer's alts did not have Sora vs. Riku winning the match. --- Pokemon VGC2011 US Nationals - 54th place Pokemon VGC2012 NW Regional - 16th place |
Northwest Division Lower Half Sora vs. Riku – 50.00% Dante vs. Vergil – 49.15% William B.J. Blazkowicz vs. Adolf Hitler – 39.79% Sol Badguy vs. Ky Kiske – 17.11% North Division Mario vs. Bowser – 50.00% Sonic the Hedgehog vs. Dr. Robotnik – 27.68% Kirby vs. Meta Knight – 20.92% Ike vs. Black Knight – 19.53% Jill Valentine vs. Nemesis – 17.38% Conker vs. The Great Mighty Poo – 15.85% Katherine vs. Catherine – 14.88% Earthworm Jim vs. Queen Slug-for-a-Butt – 14.64% Looks like SFF to me. --- http://img.imgcake.com/leonpngpe.png http://img.imgcake.com/squalloweenpngem.png |
Every
single match Sonic has had the past few years against Nintendo
characters confirm he shares pretty much the same fanbase these days. It's clearly SFF, whether you want to believe it or not. --- Demyx is better than Axel. http://www.last.fm/user/crazydom |
Stabilizing already, huh? --- "So cold. I am always by your side." "There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!" |
From: charmander6000 | #455 Or Kirby loses by more without SFF and Mario/Bowser is legit? Seriously Mario vs Bowser is probably top two in the bracket. It has all the factors working for it. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
Hey
if you guys want to believe Ike/Black Knight wouldn't get whipped by
Kirby/Meta Knight, or even worse, that they would beat Jill/Nemesis, go
ahead. --- http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7760/222bj.jpg |
Bowser/Robotnik
is enough to make this a big blowout like this. Robotnik is one of the
biggest anchors in this contest in my opinion. Even Ridley would beat
him easily. A normal match would probably be like 60-62% Mario. --- http://raptr.com/badge/cf898f37d9c30ef120ada6c35e636ad3/fs.png http://myanimelist.net/signature/RyanSaotome.png |
Seriously Mario vs Bowser is probably top two in the bracket. It has all the factors working for it. But some of those factors should in theory be working for Sonic/Robotnik as well. --- "What's wrong with bootblacking? We like it very much!" This is Yesmar. |
From: Lopen | #461 Might be. I don't know if I'd take Cloud/Seph over this team tbqh. It's kinda like Super Mario Bros. against FFVII. Past stats say Mario will get flattened, but come on, it'll overperform to the moon. --- Yoblazer: http://i32.tinypic.com/zlf1w7.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
Top 10 Closest Matches 1. Sora/Riku – 50.85% vs. Dante/Vergil – 49.15% - Round 2 – 1.70% 2. Frog/Magus – 51.51% vs. Chell/GlaDOS – 48.49% - Round 2 – 3.02% 3. Luigi/Waluigi – 55.28% vs. Cecil Harvey/Golbez – 44.72% - Round 1 – 10.56% 4. Siegfried/Nightmare – 55.68% vs. Ramza Beoulve/Delita Hyral – 44.32% - Round 1 – 11.36% 5. Frog/Magus – 56.13% vs. Raiden/Vamp – 43.87% - Round 1 – 12.26% 6. Phoenix Wright/Miles Edgeworth – 56.56% vs. Gordon Freeman/Dr. Breen – 43.44% - Round 1 – 13.12% 7. Big Boss/The Boss – 56.60% vs. Chris Redfield/Albert Wesker – 43.40% - Round 2 – 13.20% 8. Alucard/Dracula – 56.67% vs. Phoenix Wright/Miles Edgeworth – 43.33% - Round 2 – 13.34% 9. Kirby/Meta Knight – 58.47% vs. Jill Valentine/Nemesis – 41.53% - Round 1 – 16.94% 10. Solid Snake/Liquid Snake – 58.77% vs. Crono/Lavos – 41.23% – Round 1 – 17.54% Top 5 Smallest 24h Vote Gaps 1. Sora/Riku – 24538 vs. Dante/Vergil – 23715 – Round 2 - 823 2. Frog/Magus – 25211 vs. Chell/GlaDOS – 23729 – Round 2 - 1482 3. Big Boss/The Boss – 25862 vs. Chris Redfield/Albert Wesker – 19833 – Round 2 – 6029 4. Alucard/Dracula – 27431 vs. Phoenix Wright/Miles Edgeworth – 20976 – Round 2 – 6455 5. Samus Aran/Ridley – 30282 vs. Terra Branford/Kefka Palazzo – 19530 – Round 2 – 10752 Top 5 Least Popular 24h Polls 1. Solid Snake/Liquid Snake vs. Pac-Man/Blinky – Round 2 - 44557 2. Ryu/Ken vs. Fox McCloud/Wolf O’Donnell – Round 2 – 45581 3. Squall Leonhart/Seifer Almasy vs. Siegfried/Nightmare – Round 2 - 45630 4. Big Boss/The Boss vs. Chris Redfield/Albert Wesker – Round 2 – 45695 5. Sora/Riku vs. Dante/Vergil – Round 2 - 48253 Top 5 Least Impressive 24h Winners 1. Sora/Riku – Round 2 - 24538 2. Frog/Magus – Round 2 - 25211 3. Big Boss/The Boss – Round 2 – 25862 4. Alucard/Dracula – Round 2 - 27431 5. Ryu/Ken – Round 2 – 29617 Top 5 Most Impressive 24h Losers 1. Chell/GlaDOS – Round 2 – 23729 2. Dante/Vergil – Round 2 - 23715 3. Phoenix Wright/Miles Edgeworth – Round 2 - 20976 4. Chris Redfield/Albert Wesker – Round 2 – 19833 5. Terra Branford/Kefka Palazzo – Round 2 – 19530 Top 10 Hardest Matches to Predict 1. Frog/Magus vs. Chell/GlaDOS – Round 2 – 33.41% 2. Alucard/Dracula vs. Phoenix Wright/Miles Edgeworth – Round 2 – 34.09% 3. Big Boss/The Boss vs. Chris Redfield/Albert Wesker – Round 2 – 37.29% 4. Big Boss/The Boss vs. Tidus/Jecht – Round 1 – 55.06% 5. Phoenix Wright/Miles Edgeworth vs. Gordon Freeman/Dr. Breen – Round 1 – 57.30% 6. Sub-Zero/Scorpion vs. Donkey Kong/King K. Rool - Round 2 – 58.33% 7. Luigi/Waluigi vs. Cecil Harvey/Golbez – Round 1 – 60.19% 8. Sora/Riku vs. Dante/Vergil – Round 2 – 60.66% 9. Ike/Black Knight vs. Conker/Great Mighty Poo – Round 1 – 63.37% 10. Frog/Magus vs. Raiden/Vamp – Round 1 – 66.12% --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Rivalry Rumble: 57/64 Today: Mario/Bowser |
From: FateStayAlbion | #463 If Robotnik is that bad, Kirby/Meta Knight don't lose that badly. --- http://www.gifsoup.com/view/593815/frasier-and-niles-dance-o.gif |
From: PartOfYourWorld | #465 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3497 To the moon, you say? I know it's 4-ways and all, but I'd be shocked if any Mario game broke 45% on FFVII. --- http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/2369/mythbattlers.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/Sensui22/1248835958206.png |
From: LOLContests | #464 Not against the most iconic rivalry ever (Mario/Sonic aside). Bowser should at LEAST triple Robotnik, and any "icon" advantage Sonic has against guys like Kirby is completely ripped away here. You factor in voters thinking about the games before voting, and I figured it was gonna be ugly. Just didn't figure this ugly... --- Yoblazer: http://oi52.tinypic.com/ad21i1.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
From: LOLContests | #464 Some, but not all. Biggest factor that isn't working for Sonic/Robotnik is that people actually give a damn about Bowser. I'd also say all the other factors that Sonic has to some degree work stronger for Mario. Then you have that Mario is stronger than Sonic in the first place and yeah. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
Kirby vs. Meta Knight – 20.92% Ike vs. Black Knight – 19.53% lol x-stats. --- "Ovelia ... SPOILERS IN THE KEYWORDS WOOPS" - Vormav |
From: LeonhartFour | #468 TO THE MOON Don't 4way stats and 4way conventional wisdom suggest an FFVII doubling or worse against original Mario? Yes, to the moon, cuz SMB could easily outperform whatever the stats say by 10%. --- Yoblazer: http://i33.tinypic.com/ml36gl_th.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
Robotnik is one of the biggest anchors in this contest in my opinion. Again Kirby/Meta Knight would have won had Robotnik been the anchor I thought he would be. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Rivalry Rumble: 57/64 Today: Mario/Bowser |
From: PartOfYourWorld | #472 The original SMB? Nah, I doubt it. CT was in the perfect position to overperform against FFVII in the finals. Melee, too. FFVII still completely overwhelmed both past the early vote. I think people are underestimating how big the gap between OoT/FFVII and everything else is. This isn't like Cloud or Sephy against Noble Niners who are worth 40%+ against them to begin with. --- "So cold. I am always by your side." "There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!" |
Hey
if you guys want to believe Ike/Black Knight wouldn't get whipped by
Kirby/Meta Knight, or even worse, that they would beat Jill/Nemesis, go
ahead. That was a likely SFF'd Ike/Black Knight as well. --- Pokemon VGC2011 US Nationals - 54th place Pokemon VGC2012 NW Regional - 16th place |
Sff same as with link. also robotnik sux --- http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/31/f53sle_2.gif brawl 3524 9730 2525 - LALA |
hey wait when did we get a second match pic? --- http://i42.tinypic.com/11jol1t.gif Oracle Challenge ~ Rank: 15th ~Today's prediction: Mario/Bowser - 65.78% |
From: Team Rocket Elite | #475 So Ike/Black Knight beats Kirby/Meta Knight easily then...! --- http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/8718/leonflowchart.png |
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/%281%29Ganondorf_vs_%283%29Dr._Robotnik_2005 Hmm. --- "Ovelia ... SPOILERS IN THE KEYWORDS WOOPS" - Vormav |
From: charmander6000 | #473 It's not all anchor, though. Kirby has a stronger partner there, but Sonic/Robotnik wins at other things. Basically there are a lot of factors at work with these rivalries. Strength of the two characters individually, RIVALRY FACTOR, OLD FACTOR, and possibly NUMBER OF APPEARANCES FACTOR. You toss all those in a blender and Sonic/Robotnik come out on top assuming OLD FACTOR or NUMBER OF APPEARANCES FACTOR is the strongest, which I'm leaning that it is at this point. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
X/Zero will win OLD FACTOR tomorrow even though the ninjas are older lol --- Yoblazer: http://i33.tinypic.com/ml36gl_th.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
GrapefruitKing | Posted 12/5/2011 12:19:22 AM | message detail hey wait when did we get a second match pic? Probably within the last few minutes. When I voted, it said "Today's Contest Images by UltimaterializerX". By the time of the second update (12:11 AM), that wording was then changed to "Today's Contest Images by UltimaterializerX and CrimsonOcean" http://image.com.com/gamefaqs/images/rivals/rivals-49.jpg http://image.com.com/gamefaqs/images/rivals/rivals-49-1.jpg The first link still works for some reason. Also, this is the second match picture: http://image.com.com/gamefaqs/images/rivals/rivals-49-2.jpg --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as BlAcK TuRtLe, Guru Champ! |
Basically
there are a lot of factors at work with these rivalries. Strength of
the two characters individually, RIVALRY FACTOR, OLD FACTOR, and
possibly NUMBER OF APPEARANCES FACTOR. You toss all those in a blender
and Sonic/Robotnik come out on top assuming OLD FACTOR or NUMBER OF
APPEARANCES FACTOR is the strongest, which I'm leaning that it is at
this point. That would mean you do believe that this is SFF since Mario and Boswer outranks Sonic/Robotnik in all of those aspects is a disproportionate matter --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Rivalry Rumble: 57/64 Today: Mario/Bowser |
Besides Kirby and Meta Knight are almost as old as Sonic/Robotnik --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Rivalry Rumble: 57/64 Today: Mario/Bowser |
Well
in the sense that every match has some degree of SFF in that some
people like some characters more than other characters, yes. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
Average votals for round 2 - 49396 Only 5 matches from round 2 got above 50000 votes, and there were 16 matches total. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as BlAcK TuRtLe, Guru Champ! |
From: charmander6000 | #485 I think Sonic/Robotnik has its first big appearance (Revenge of the Meta Knight) beat by a good 5 years+. MK might be in Kirby's Adventure? but I don't give that credit for a good playrate. Also Sonic/Robotnik win NUMBER OF APPEARANCES FACTOR by a lot. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
Though
honestly this isn't 2005 anymore, we know Nintendo characters can SFF
psuedo Nintendo characters. We just saw Link break 70% in the previous
contest. You can't say Sonic and Robotnik have all of these rivalry factors in the previous round and not this round without alluding it to SFF. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Rivalry Rumble: 57/64 Today: Mario/Bowser |
Wow, complete anihilation. At least I can take comfort in the fact that X/Zero would have likely doubled Sonic/Robotnic. --- Game of the decade? More like Guru of the decade mirite? |
From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #490 So you're calling for a close match next round then? Because I don't think this match finishes above 70%. --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
Sonic and Robotnik have the factors Mario and Bowser are better at it I don't see what the issue is. Not exactly SFF because I consider it more like a base strength than anything. It'd be like saying Sonic doing worse on Cloud than Snake is SFF because more people like Cloud more than Sonic than Snake more than Sonic. SFF implies that there's a disproportionate chopping of the strength from under a character when they match up with another but I wouldn't necessarily agree with that being the case here. I mean I won't rule out SFF of course but I don't think this match necessarily has to be SFF for it to be 70/30 is all I'm saying. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
It's not like it even matters if this is SFF or not. It's not like we'll ever have another contest like this. We had better not anyway...! --- http://i43.tinypic.com/dgwh0.gif http://www.majhost.com/gallery/atukam/OHWD/snownd.gif |
The night vote and early morning will not be kind to Mario here, so Mario could end up below 70% at some point in this match. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as BlAcK TuRtLe, Guru Champ! |
I
know, I'm going in circles, but if all the factors that Sonic and
Robotnik had led them to only be worth this much on Mario/Bowser in
natural strength Kirby and Meta Knight would've defeated, just look at
those 5 minute x-stats. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Rivalry Rumble: 57/64 Today: Mario/Bowser |
From: LeonhartFour | #493 Definitely not. I would so refuse to predict said contest out of protest. Hell I almost want to refuse to predict future contests out of protest as is. But yeah it basically comes down to "could I see Mario/Bowser laying a 85/15 on Catherine/Katherine" and I could. Any of those results, through Mario, I could see. Granted, the lower stuff in that group seems to be out of order-- for example I'd take Jill over Ike, but yeah, that's just measurement through fodder being unreliable as much as anything. I think the format lends itself to blowouts-- just the nature of the beast. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
From: Lopen | #496 I don't really have a problem with thinking that. Series Contest was the same way. --- http://i.imgur.com/CbfFb.jpg |
Yeah. Kinda similar factors at work I think. It'd also explain why we've been so starved for close matches to some extent. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
Sora/Riku vs. Dante/Vergil the new SF/RE And the one with the ugly picture won both times...! --- http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/8516/whatisdesiresig.gif |
