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#251 | creativename | Posted 12/3/2011 7:02:58 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #1207
Out of all of those, only Red/Ryu looks interesting.


Frog/Magus vs. the vampires could be interesting if CT gets the right pics.

Unfortunately this multiple pic thing hurts them I think. I'd take the Frog/Magus from last round to get 47% on the vampires - but with the right pic I could see them barely winning.

The ideal pic would be something like this (but mirrored):
www.videogamesprites.net/ChronoTrigger/Party/Frog/Frog%20-%20Ready3%20(Left).gif

Versus something like this:
www.videogamesprites.net/ChronoTrigger/Party/Magus/Magus%20-%20Cape.gif

With something like the middle image from last round in the center.

BTW, here's some sprite sheets for Frog and Magus:
www.videogamesprites.net/ChronoTrigger/Party/Frog/
www.videogamesprites.net/ChronoTrigger/Party/Magus/

People should really try to make great pics for Frog/Magus, because that increases our odds of getting a classic matchup significantly. Without great sprite pics the match probably isn't close, but if people submit great pics we could see a very good match.
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#252 | charmander6000 | Posted 12/3/2011 7:06:37 PM | message detail
Match XLVIII: (3) Dante/Vergil vs. (2) Sora/Riku

Previous Round

Dante/Vergil – 82.59%
Sol Badguy/Ky Kiske – 17.41%

Sora/Riku – 60.21%
William Blazkowicz/Adolf Hitler – 39.79%

Analysis

The debate for this match has seemed to increase as we came closer to the match. Most of the debates seemed to have arisen since their first round matches and given the types of characters I’m not sure why people felt that there should be more hype about the match, though before round 1 the match wasn’t getting the talk it deserved so I guess it balances out. Sol and Ky were always going to be one of the weakest characters in the bracket and you can’t really blame Sora and Riku for doing badly due to joke votes from both GameFAQs and rallies from other sites.

A match between Sora and Dante individually would be interesting, but I feel Sora would be able to take it. While he has taken a drop recently Sora’s performance against Bowser was still good enough to place him at or above the company of Dante. Of course that matched happened almost two years ago and it wouldn’t be a stretch to argue that Sora could have taken another drop since then due to Kingdom Hearts being no longer in the limelight, but at the same time Sora could be in a plateau like several other characters are when they haven’t had a game in years.

As for their partners Riku would have no problem against Vergil even considering Riku’s drop as Vergil has shown in the past to be nothing more than fodder. Of course Dante and Vergil have the better rivalry; however Sora and Riku are far from bad and would probably out-rival a large portion of the bracket. Rivalries seem to only offer large boosts in the more extreme cases which I don’t see Dante and Vergil being.

While I feel the match would be close I never felt that Sora and Riku would lose this match. Winning a close match would be good for Dante in order to get rid of the choking reputation that he seems to be building. Not sure why people feel that Dante is a choker, he’s only lost 2 close matches that could have gone either way, that’s like flipping a coin twice and getting tails twice and say heads are choking.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Sora/Riku > Dante/Vergil

charmander6000’s Prediction: Sora/Riku wins, 53.22% - 46.78%
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#253 | SubDeity | Posted 12/3/2011 7:10:24 PM | message detail
Really considering making the leap to Dante but I can't quite pull the trigger...I just don't see him getting 45% on Bowser and Riku is probably stronger than Vergil.

On the other hand, I'm not a perfect battler and I'll need an upset to happen just to have a chance, so maybe making the leap is a good strategic choice here. It's basically this or the ninjas.
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#254 | th3l3fty | Posted 12/3/2011 7:13:24 PM | message detail

From: creativename | #251
Frog/Magus vs. the vampires could be interesting if CT gets the right pics.

Unfortunately this multiple pic thing hurts them I think. I'd take the Frog/Magus from last round to get 47% on the vampires - but with the right pic I could see them barely winning.


http://image.com.com/gamefaqs/images/rivals/rivals-49.jpg

this is the only R3 pic uploaded so far, and it's in the same format as the first two rounds

which probably means one pic per match!
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#255 | Xuxon | Posted 12/3/2011 7:23:13 PM | message detail

From: creativename | #248
FF5 has had three characters? I didn't realize that. Who's the third other than Bartz and Gilgamesh?


He meant FF4. Notice he said "before this contest."
#256 | creativename | Posted 12/3/2011 7:33:23 PM | message detail
OK - I made a change to the links to the graphs. Now, at the bottom, there's a link where you can switch between 15 minute and 60 second (i.e. 5 minute after the start) updates.

If anyone has any bugs or issues with this, let me know! :)

From: th3l3fty | #1254which probably means one pic per match!


OK that's good :) I had read someone say that next round would be multiple pics. Nice to hear that won't be the case.

We need to have a contest for people trying to make the best possible Frog/Magus sprite pic! That's our best bet for a match with fireworks, rather than a dull vampires winning easily affair.

From: Xuxon | #1255
He meant FF4. Notice he said "before this contest."


Ah I see :)
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#257 | Lopen | Posted 12/3/2011 7:35:07 PM | message detail
So who's ready for our first technical upset.

KP's point about the pictures is the strongest, I think. Don't think Dante chokes here because he actually got a good pic unlike what he got pretty much every other time he choked in a close one.
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#258 | greatone10 | Posted 12/3/2011 7:49:27 PM | message detail
I don't see CT getting a good pic draw next round, mostly because the Vampires look so much better in their official art.
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#259 | AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 12/3/2011 7:56:06 PM | message detail
Didn't SB confirm to somebody that we'd have multiple pics this round? Could have sworn it was posted in this topic.
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#260 | nintendogirl1 (Moderator) | Posted 12/3/2011 7:58:38 PM | message detail
I'm banking 82000 points. I'll acknowledge I probably don't finish on the leaderboard here and be content with Bacon beat and hope for an upset in every remaining match.
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#261 | greatone10 | Posted 12/3/2011 8:01:39 PM | message detail
AlecTrevelyan006 posted...
Didn't SB confirm to somebody that we'd have multiple pics this round? Could have sworn it was posted in this topic.

I believe he did, but the only match that really seemed to be garnering a lot of interest from the picsmiths was Trainers vs Fighters to be honest. It could be that Allen really only liked that one pic.
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#262 | SSBB_GH3 | Posted 12/3/2011 8:03:24 PM | message detail
Perfect battle and regular bracket. I got Dante in regular bracket, and currently banked, but probably going to pick in next hour. Should I really be worried about my Dante pick? I picked him without much thought mostly because of my DMC fanboyism, I better not fall off the leaderboard 2 contests in a row because of it (ala Melee>Brawl).
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#263 | red sox 777 | Posted 12/3/2011 8:09:46 PM | message detail
Out of all of those, only Red/Ryu looks interesting.

Mario/Sonic is interesting because we've somehow never seen Mario/Sonic in 9 years of contests. Link/MM and Cloud/Snake are interesting because they are Noble Niner matches, but even more importantly because they will let us gauge the strengths of Link/Ganon and Cloud/Seph in anticipation for the biggest match of the contest (Link vs. Cloud). Frog/Alucard is interesting because Frog is going to win! No surrender, just you watch Frog pull out another close match!
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#264 | SnoicFactor | Posted 12/3/2011 8:25:58 PM | message detail
I think dante will pull through. sora was garbage last contest
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#265 | SnoicFactor | Posted 12/3/2011 8:27:54 PM | message detail
red sox 777 posted...
Out of all of those, only Red/Ryu looks interesting.

Mario/Sonic is interesting because we've somehow never seen Mario/Sonic in 9 years of contests. Link/MM and Cloud/Snake are interesting because they are Noble Niner matches, but even more importantly because they will let us gauge the strengths of Link/Ganon and Cloud/Seph in anticipation for the biggest match of the contest (Link vs. Cloud). Frog/Alucard is interesting because Frog is going to win! No surrender, just you watch Frog pull out another close match!


Mario should overperform since robotnik is pretty weak. also link will own mm harder since snake team is a good bit stronger.
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#266 | th3l3fty | Posted 12/3/2011 8:30:03 PM | message detail
Sora didn't look too good in the first few rounds, but I honestly see nothing wrong with how he did on Bowser
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#267 | red sox 777 | Posted 12/3/2011 8:33:27 PM | message detail
Link will definitely beat MM down harder, because Snake > MM, Liquid > Wily, the Snakes probably have a better rivalry, and because Link SFF'd MM the last time they met in 2004. But the extent of the margin will give us good information on what to expect in Link/Cloud. I'd say Link wants at least a doubling to avoid looking bad, and Cloud is looking for at least an Ulti-style blowout (56%) to avoid looking bad.
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#268 | SubDeity | Posted 12/3/2011 8:34:38 PM | message detail
Urgh I just can't do it. RPGfaqs, After School Vote, everything...I just don't see Dante winning.
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#269 | th3l3fty | Posted 12/3/2011 8:35:35 PM | message detail
ASV doesn't exist on Sundays!
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#270 | FateStayAlbion | Posted 12/3/2011 8:38:32 PM | message detail
What kinds of trends does Dante typically have, anyway? He feels like more of a night guy but I'm not 100% sure. I hope he is, since then he could take a lead over night and Sora can use his day vote to try to come back.
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#271 | red sox 777 | Posted 12/3/2011 8:39:46 PM | message detail
Think Dante is pretty balanced. Sora's trends will be the ones controlling the match.
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#272 | charmander6000 | Posted 12/3/2011 8:40:21 PM | message detail
Dante is more balance though if I had to choose I would place him in the night camp.
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#273 | Lopen | Posted 12/3/2011 8:41:01 PM | message detail
Dante is basically FF7 without the monster dead hours vote.
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#274 | red sox 777 | Posted 12/3/2011 8:42:27 PM | message detail
Dante also doesn't have FF7's abysmal early vote, which is much more distinctive than its deep night zone. I mean, Dante's not good with the early vote, but it's worlds apart from FF7.
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#275 | Lopen | Posted 12/3/2011 8:48:42 PM | message detail
My point was more that Dante generally rises the whole match. His early vote is bad enough for that against anyone that isn't FF7 (Kratos might have him beat there too), pretty much.
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#276 | junk_funk | Posted 12/3/2011 8:48:45 PM | message detail
Dante was roughly equal to 2010 Ryu. 2006 Ryu gets 41% on Bowser.

2010 Sora gets 45% on Bowser.

Hafta trust in Sora.
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#277 | SSBB_GH3 | Posted 12/3/2011 8:51:14 PM | message detail
Dante>Sora on both my brackets, good luck everyone.
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#278 | red sox 777 | Posted 12/3/2011 8:52:46 PM | message detail
2005 Ryu got 41% on Bowser. 2006 Ryu got 42% on Megaman. 2008 Ryu got 43% on Crono.
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#279 | Lopen | Posted 12/3/2011 8:53:25 PM | message detail
Ryu's always training to better himself. I mean really, these things should be expected.
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#280 | SubDeity | Posted 12/3/2011 8:54:09 PM | message detail
Total random factor: Could the terrible Dante redesign somehow boost old Dante's popularity because people are pissed and want to support cool Dante?
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#281 | KamikazePotato | Posted 12/3/2011 8:54:50 PM | message detail
Ryu has gotten stronger over the years thanks to the fighting game genre being revitalized, I'd say.
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#282 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/3/2011 8:56:00 PM | message detail
th3l3fty | Posted 12/3/2011 11:35:35 PM | message detail
ASV doesn't exist on Sundays!


It technically does exist, but it starts in the morning (around 8-9 AM).
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#283 | junk_funk | Posted 12/3/2011 8:56:22 PM | message detail
red sox 777 posted...
2006 Ryu got 42% on Megaman. 2008 Ryu got 43% on Crono.

Valid point/Lol 4 ways
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#284 | red sox 777 | Posted 12/3/2011 8:56:43 PM | message detail
No, it doesn't exist. The day vote exists. The after school vote does not.
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#285 | vcharon | Posted 12/3/2011 8:57:56 PM | message detail
Excitement time.

It'll probably last all of 10 minutes.
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#286 | SubDeity | Posted 12/3/2011 8:58:04 PM | message detail
URGH CAN'T CHOOSE ****.
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#287 | Lopen | Posted 12/3/2011 8:58:29 PM | message detail
Dante gonna crush this one.

60-40 Dante
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#288 | FateStayAlbion | Posted 12/3/2011 8:58:36 PM | message detail
Dante should be stronger than last year. He's had MvC3 since then, as has Vergil. If Ryu and Dante faced now, I'd give Dante the advantage. Ryu was also in that, but anyone who played that game already knew Ryu from previous Capcom fighting games, but it introduced Dante to a new audience.
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#289 | Bigwig_rah | Posted 12/3/2011 8:58:43 PM | message detail
Not gonna overthink this. KH is popular, DMC is less so.
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#290 | _Regaro_ | Posted 12/3/2011 8:58:51 PM | message detail

From: SubDeity | #286
URGH CAN'T CHOOSE ****.


Sora

I don't expect it to be close (Except maybe by standards of this contest, where 60/40 is "close" <_<), either.
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#291 | vcharon | Posted 12/3/2011 8:58:55 PM | message detail
Sora will win for sure now, good work Lopen. Damn it.
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#292 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/3/2011 8:59:31 PM | message detail
red sox 777 | Posted 12/3/2011 11:56:43 PM | message detail
No, it doesn't exist. The day vote exists. The after school vote does not.


Yeah, we have a tendency to refer to the day vote as the ASV, even for matches that are on the weekend.
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#293 | Lopen | Posted 12/3/2011 8:59:40 PM | message detail
Tch. If hexes worked we'd have had an upset a long time ago.
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#294 | charmander6000 | Posted 12/3/2011 9:00:26 PM | message detail
Sora/Riku with the initial board vote then we'll see what happens
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#295 | junk_funk | Posted 12/3/2011 9:00:29 PM | message detail
#296 | IngmarBirdman | Posted 12/3/2011 9:00:47 PM | message detail
Yeah Sora should easily snag the EBV slot.
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#297 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/3/2011 9:00:58 PM | message detail
Time to see if this will end up being the BEST or WORST birthday ever

(yes this is seriously how I judge them)

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#298 | tennisboy213 | Posted 12/3/2011 9:01:17 PM | message detail
Vote Accepted

Dante vs. Vergil 57.14% 4
Sora vs. Riku 42.86% 3
TOTAL VOTES 7
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#299 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/3/2011 9:01:19 PM | message detail
Dante vs. Vergil 57.14%

8
Sora vs. Riku 42.86%

6
TOTAL VOTES 14
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#300 | IngmarBirdman | Posted 12/3/2011 9:01:31 PM | message detail
Vote Accepted
Dante vs. Vergil 48%

12
Sora vs. Riku 52%

13
TOTAL VOTES 25

Already the best match!
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