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#151 | transience | Posted 12/2/2011 5:29:36 PM | message detail
blech, Sora fighting from behind

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#152 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/2/2011 5:34:12 PM | message detail
You think so? I think brackets guarantee him the early board vote. After that, I have no idea, but the board doesn't like Dante enough to favor him over brackets.
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#153 | transience | Posted 12/2/2011 5:35:41 PM | message detail
oh I just mean he's at the pic disadvantage. Sora will probably suck early though. if he can keep it close after brackets, he's in great shape.
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#154 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/2/2011 5:53:57 PM | message detail
I wouldn't mind having yo's Squall/Seifer pic for a match like this because Squall/Seifer literally can't lose this match. It may hurt their overall percentage, but who cares.
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#155 | vcharon | Posted 12/2/2011 5:56:21 PM | message detail
A picture of the gunblade probably wins this match I'm sure.
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#156 | greatone10 | Posted 12/2/2011 6:13:18 PM | message detail
I think the pic factor for Dante/Sora is a wash. Sora was never going to out badass DMC in the pics, but the fact that they got something extremely bright and colorful helps them pop out and grab attention against the brooding DMC duo.
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#157 | AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 12/2/2011 6:50:33 PM | message detail

From: transience | #151
blech, Sora fighting from behind


Just the way Riku likes it.
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#158 | charmander6000 | Posted 12/2/2011 7:13:35 PM | message detail
Match XLVII: (1) Squall Leonhart/Seifer Almasy vs. (4) Siegfried Schtauffen/Nightmare

Previous Round

Squall Leonhart/Seifer Almasy – 73.65%
Laharl/Mid-Boss – 26.35%

Siegfried Schtauffen/Nightmare – 55.68%
Ramza Beoulve/Delita Hyral – 44.32%

Analysis

Interestingly enough both pairs went up against characters that ended up being more or less equal to each other. Despite their 2008 match I think most people would have taken the Ramza pair over Laharl should they have met. Of course we don’t really need to know about the relationship between Ramza and Laharl to know Squall is going to take this match rather easily.

This match will probably be a decent one to see whether or not Nightmare has taken a drop in strength since 2008 with Soul Calibur not being in the limelight anymore. Nightmare has been able to hold up well against noble nine characters like Solid Snake and Samus before and by hold up well I mean not getting crushed. Squall may be a step below those characters, but with a decrease in strength from Nightmare or even getting a rivalry boost with Seifer on his side may make him look good.

Breaking 70% is certainly possible for Squall and Seifer; however I feel that they will finish just below that mark. Personally I’m not convinced that Seifer has a lot of individual strength to add to the poll and I do agree that Ramza would defeat Laharl without too much trouble should they meet again in the sometime near future.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Squall Leonhart/Seifer Almasy > Siegfried Schtauffen/Nightmare

charmander6000’s Prediction: Squall Leonhart/Seifer Almasy wins, 68.57% - 31.43%
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#159 | tennisboy213 | Posted 12/2/2011 9:01:18 PM | message detail
Vote Accepted

Squall Leonhart vs. Seifer Almasy 61.11% 11
Siegfried vs. Nightmare 38.89% 7
TOTAL VOTES 18
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#160 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/2/2011 9:01:23 PM | message detail
Squall Leonhart vs. Seifer Almasy 60%

9
Siegfried vs. Nightmare 40%

6
TOTAL VOTES 15

Dat Squall boardy
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#161 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/2/2011 9:01:36 PM | message detail
Vote Accepted

Squall Leonhart vs. Seifer Almasy 58.82% 10
Siegfried vs. Nightmare 41.18% 7
TOTAL VOTES 17

66.38% for the Snakes
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#162 | GrapefruitKing | Posted 12/2/2011 9:01:48 PM | message detail
#163 | FateStayAlbion | Posted 12/2/2011 9:02:39 PM | message detail
Almost 36% for Nightmare now. IF there is one thing worse than new FF board votes, its fighting game board votes
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#164 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 12/2/2011 9:02:41 PM | message detail
#165 | GrapefruitKing | Posted 12/2/2011 9:02:55 PM | message detail
that was quite the board vote for Squalleifer
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#166 | vcharon | Posted 12/2/2011 9:03:08 PM | message detail
Well it looked really good for a second there at 70%.
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#167 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/2/2011 9:03:11 PM | message detail
Come on, Squall. We all need a little reassurance for tomorrow.
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#168 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/2/2011 9:04:13 PM | message detail

From: FateStayAlbion | #163
IF there is one thing worse than new FF board votes, its fighting game board votes


Nope.
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#169 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/2/2011 9:04:29 PM | message detail
Huh, the vote totals are really bad for this match. Not even at 400 votes after 3 minutes into this match.
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#170 | Lopen | Posted 12/2/2011 9:04:34 PM | message detail
I'm really unsure who is gonna have a crappier board vote here. I wanna lean Soul Calibur though cause yeah as Albion said Fighting game board votes are atrocious.

And Squall has BRACKETS after all.
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#171 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 12/2/2011 9:05:18 PM | message detail
Lopen posted...
I'm really unsure who is gonna have a crappier board vote here. I wanna lean Soul Calibur though cause yeah as Albion said Fighting game board votes are atrocious.

And Squall has BRACKETS after all.


The guy with the crappier board vote is probably the guy who rose 6 percent after the initial surge.
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#172 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/2/2011 9:06:54 PM | message detail
The guy with the crappier board vote is the guy who rises after the first update

We thought Cloud/Sephiroth won the board vote, too, and then dat second update
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#173 | Lopen | Posted 12/2/2011 9:06:54 PM | message detail
Well the post surge action isn't always indicative of the action after the freeze.
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#174 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/2/2011 9:09:23 PM | message detail
West Division Lower Half

Solid Snake vs. Liquid Snake – 50.00%
Crono vs. Lavos – 41.23%
Pac-Man vs. Blinky – 32.36%
Crash Bandicoot vs. Dr. Neo Cortex – 23.62%

Northwest Division Upper Half

Squall Leonhart vs. Seifer Almasy – 50.00%
Siegfried Schtauffen vs. Nightmare – 35.93%
Ramza Beoulve vs. Delita Hyral – 31.85%
Laharl vs. Mid-Boss – 26.35%
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#175 | IngmarBirdman | Posted 12/2/2011 9:10:23 PM | message detail
This basically DAT FF BOARD VOTE at work? I don't know how much higher I'd put Nightmare / Siegfried over Laharl / Mid-Boss but probably not quite this high!
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#176 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/2/2011 9:11:16 PM | message detail
Hrm.
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#177 | GrapefruitKing | Posted 12/2/2011 9:12:02 PM | message detail
Ramza/Delita vs. Crash/Neo Cortex

who do you pick?
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#178 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/2/2011 9:12:45 PM | message detail
Ramza/Delita
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#179 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 12/2/2011 9:13:52 PM | message detail
Ramza/Delita, but I take Pac-Man/Blinky over everyone in Squall/Seifer's fourpack except the obvious.
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#180 | charmander6000 | Posted 12/2/2011 9:15:16 PM | message detail
Updated Top 5/10

Top 5 Least Popular 24h Polls
1. Solid Snake/Liquid Snake vs. Pac-Man/Blinky – Round 2 - 44557
2. Ryu/Ken vs. Fox McCloud/Wolf O’Donnell – Round 2 – 45581
3. Big Boss/The Boss vs. Chris Redfield/Albert Wesker – Round 2 – 45695
4. Alucard/Dracula vs. Phoenix Wright/Miles Edgeworth – Round 2 - 48407
5. Mega Man X/Zero vs. Bartz Klauser/Gilgamesh – Round 2 – 48925

Top 5 Least Impressive 24h Winners
1. Frog/Magus – Round 2 - 25211
2. Big Boss/The Boss – Round 2 – 25862
3. Alucard/Dracula – Round 2 - 27431
4. Ryu/Ken – Round 2 – 29617
5. Solid Snake/Liquid Snake – Round 2 - 30137

Top 10 Hardest Matches to Predict
1. Frog/Magus vs. Chell/GlaDOS – Round 2 – 33.41%
2. Alucard/Dracula vs. Phoenix Wright/Miles Edgeworth – Round 2 – 34.09%
3. Big Boss/The Boss vs. Chris Redfield/Albert Wesker – Round 2 – 37.29%
4. Big Boss/The Boss vs. Tidus/Jecht – Round 1 – 55.06%
5. Phoenix Wright/Miles Edgeworth vs. Gordon Freeman/Dr. Breen – Round 1 – 57.30%
6. Sub-Zero/Scorpion vs. Donkey Kong/King K. Rool - Round 2 – 58.33%
7. Luigi/Waluigi vs. Cecil Harvey/Golbez – Round 1 – 60.19%
8. Ike/Black Knight vs. Conker/Great Mighty Poo – Round 1 – 63.37%
9. Frog/Magus vs. Raiden/Vamp – Round 1 – 66.12%
10. Solid Snake/Liquid Snake vs. Pac-Man/Blinky – Round 2 – 66.38%
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#181 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 12/2/2011 9:19:32 PM | message detail
Almost as many people took Pac-Man over Solid Snake as took Kirby over Sonic.

Wow.
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#182 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 12/2/2011 9:20:23 PM | message detail
My god, an match featuring Snake drawing the lowest votals of all 24h matches this contest? A third of all brackets picking Crono, Pac-Man, or Crash to escape?

Yikes. LOL thinking this could beat Cloud and Sephiroth.
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#183 | charmander6000 | Posted 12/2/2011 9:20:26 PM | message detail
Pac-Man tends to get a lot of bracket support
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#184 | charmander6000 | Posted 12/2/2011 9:21:26 PM | message detail
My god, an match featuring Snake drawing the lowest votals of all 24h matches this contest?

That's Pac-Man's fault
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#185 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/2/2011 9:31:08 PM | message detail
LinkMarioSamus | Posted 12/3/2011 12:20:23 AM | message detail
My god, an match featuring Snake drawing the lowest votals of all 24h matches this contest? A third of all brackets picking Crono, Pac-Man, or Crash to escape?


Crash/Pac-Man had the lowest votals from last round in the night matches, but I thought that was because of Crash and not Pac-Man. Crash has a record of being a poor vote draw, unless Pac-Man is also a poor vote draw as well.
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#186 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/2/2011 9:31:35 PM | message detail
Pac-Man is a terrible vote draw.

Which shows the difference between knowing and caring.
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#187 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 12/2/2011 9:36:35 PM | message detail | (edited)
But then apparently one-third of all bracketmakers thought that Snake wouldn't survive this round.

Am I wrong to expect more from a guy who has more or less been the star of the three out of four of the last character contests?

Although perhaps there's a reason why Samus's rivalry got a 1 seed while Snake's didn't. And the rivalry should've been Snake vs. Ocelot!

Okay, I remember someone earlier stating that people are favoring the rivalry that spans more games and/or is older as opposed to actually choosing the best rivalry. Couldn't the same be said for just about every contest we've had (except for BGE2009 I guess, and there the problem is that the "sweet spot" is the 32/64-bit era, so those games are practically the "oldest").
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#188 | th3l3fty | Posted 12/2/2011 9:35:01 PM | message detail
I would expect that there aren't many people who see Pac-Man and think "OH MAN I LOVE THAT GUY"
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#189 | IngmarBirdman | Posted 12/2/2011 9:40:05 PM | message detail
Well, two-thirds of the one-third that missed Snake likely had Crono given that Snake was only 80.52% for the first round ... which is reasonable, since he is a fellow Noble Niner. Throw in another whatever percent for fun brackets that weren't trying to predict correctly ... I'm not sure it was more than 5-10% of people who were tripped up here.
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#190 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/2/2011 9:41:33 PM | message detail
Squall starting to move now. Doubling still well within reach, at least.
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#191 | th3l3fty | Posted 12/2/2011 9:43:26 PM | message detail | (edited)
I've always wished that, after the contest, the full prediction breakdown of every match would be released so we could see what kinds of crazy upsets people like to pick
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#192 | IngmarBirdman | Posted 12/2/2011 10:04:24 PM | message detail
Doubling still well within reach, at least.

They've rebounded quite a bit in one hour; it seems they'll exceed a doubling during the TDZ ... Are Nightmare and Siegried actually strong enough to win the percentage back during the day? Otherwise this should end up around folks' Oracle guesses.
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#193 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/2/2011 10:04:33 PM | message detail
Yesterday's chart:

Time | Pacblink | Solquid | Votes | Demographic
EBV | 37.06% | 62.94% | 626 | (0:00-0:05)
PHV | 34.22% | 65.78% | 4386 | (0:00-1:00)
FNV | 30.85% | 69.15% | 9075 | (1:00-6:00)
BSV | 33.13% | 66.87% | 5159 | (6:00-9:00)
DSV | 32.92% | 67.08% | 10982 | (9:00-14:30)
ASV | 32.42% | 67.58% | 12526 | (14:30-22:00)
SNV | 30.22% | 69.78% | 2429 | (22:00-24:00)

After that bad first hour, the Snakes dominated the rest of the way. Fortunately for them, Pac-Man's day vote is pretty bad as well.
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#194 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/2/2011 10:37:18 PM | message detail
#195 | creativename | Posted 12/2/2011 10:45:23 PM | message detail
Looks like fighting game early vote > PSX FF early vote. PSX FF still bad early vote champs!

What's this talk about Cloud/Seph getting 60% on the Snakes? I think people are underestimating the Snakes here. With a decent pic they probably would have got 70% on Pac-Man. Throw the poor performance on Pac-Man out, it's misleading.

I'm not even sure if Link could get 60% on the Snakes.

Don't forget, Snake isn't that far off from Cloud. I expect between 54%-58% from FF7 there.
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#196 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 12/2/2011 10:54:25 PM | message detail
Score-Brackets-% Right
58------214--------100.00
57------106--------100.00
56------279--------99.28
55------108--------94.44
54------159--------89.31
53------242--------91.32
52------367--------84.74
51------482--------82.37
50------607--------77.92
49------758--------74.93
48------910--------77.25
47------1031------72.74
46------1031------69.16
45------1087------66.51
44------977--------62.44
43------979--------64.25
42------900--------64.00
41------798--------59.52
40------718--------56.13
39------602--------55.65
38------517--------55.32
37------493--------56.39
36------394--------52.03
35------336--------49.70
34------272--------50.37
33------219--------46.12
32------184--------46.74
31------151--------39.74
30------129--------48.84
29------88----------43.18
28------74----------59.46
27------64----------50.00
26------53----------54.72
25------41----------51.22
24------32----------53.13
23------16----------50.00
22------19----------68.42
21------11----------18.18
20------7------------28.57
19------5------------20.00

17------5------------40.00
16------4------------25.00
15------4------------25.00

1--------13----------7.69


Overall prediction percentage wasn't too high but the top tiers weren't fooled. All the perfects and -1s get the match right. Even discounting alts, 97% of the -2s also get the match right. One of the glitch brackets apparently had Snake going all the way and almost nothing else because a 1 bracket got the match right.

No one fell off the Top 50.
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#197 | Lopen | Posted 12/2/2011 11:39:21 PM | message detail

From: creativename | #195
Throw the poor performance on Pac-Man out, it's misleading.


What about the poor performance on Crono/Lavos then. More reason to believe Crono vs Lavos isn't all that strong than not at this point. (Crappy performance by other entrants in their vote in, crappy performance by Magus/Frog)
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#198 | th3l3fty | Posted 12/3/2011 1:28:00 AM | message detail
doubling has finally been breached
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#199 | transcience | Posted 12/3/2011 2:04:42 AM | message detail
not a great show here by Squall. curious to see if Sora can top him next round.
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#200 | vcharon | Posted 12/3/2011 2:20:00 AM | message detail | (edited)
Extremely doubtful regardless of how Squall does in this match. Unless something has changed, Sora isn't above Squall on the Square hierarchy.

Squall's looking a bit better here. I sort of assumed 70% was out of his reach, but a strong upper 60's is par for the course. Little shot Sora will look good in his match.
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