GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1027
Yeah
there's no reason for Allen to not do a Fictional Characters allowed
contest, but considering that it would be a really good idea means that
he'd never do it. --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/ExTha/10and14.jpg "I was wrong." - SmartMuffin |
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I
think this contest will warm him up to the idea. Unless the Trainers go
on a rampage and give us a great final week, it'll be nigh impossible
to argue that the tag-team format was anything but a failure. I also
doubt he'll revert to 4ways. If he wants to keep trying new things, then
the fictional contest is now the 8 ton gorilla in the room, whereas
before it was just the 2 ton baboon. These are big monkeys man. --- Yoblazer: http://oi53.tinypic.com/2hd0dh1.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
If
we get a great final week like 2002, the awfulness of the first 2
rounds will be forgotten. That's how it happened in 2002. In terms of
their importance to a contest's legacy, the latter rounds really are as
important as the bracket points system say they are. --- 2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud. Link 6, Cloud 2 |
red sox 777 posted... If we get a great final week like 2002, the awfulness of the first 2 rounds will be forgotten. That's how it happened in 2002. In terms of their importance to a contest's legacy, the latter rounds really are as important as the bracket points system say they are. Our final week of the contest is looking like... Mario/X Some Combo of Samus/Bosses/Trainers/Fighters Link/AlucardorFrog Cloud/Squall Mario/Something that will be boring barring Trainer dickery Link/Cloud A boring final barring Mario/Trainers > Cloud somehow looking possible So we have a likely 5 boring matches, with the other two being very easily boring too. I don't see any real potential excitement. --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png http://i.imgur.com/597oi.png |
The
first two rounds of 2002 weren't nearly as bad because everything was
brand new and unknown. People were worried that Morrigan Aensland had a
shot at Mario. This contest has set new precedents for suck that will
hopefully remain unchallenged forever. Even Villains had Diablo's day
vote comebacks, Master Hand, and CATS leading a match for a couple
hours. --- Yoblazer: http://oi52.tinypic.com/ad21i1.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
This contest would have been 100 times better if Captain/CATS had gotten in where Bartz/Gilgamesh did. --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png http://i.imgur.com/597oi.png |
WarThaNemesis2 posted... This contest would have been 100 times better if Captain/CATS had gotten in where Bartz/Gilgamesh did. Yes --- c |
The
blowouts in 2002 weren't as boring because we didn't know anything. We
were never COMPLETELY sure who'd win next, and what it meant. Now we are getting blowouts in matches that we knew for certain who would win. --- http://img.imgcake.com/alec1pngus.png |
Assuming Sora/Riku hold on, won't the Guru Cookie still be perfect? --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png http://i.imgur.com/597oi.png |
Yes. --- - |
Honestly
all that needs to be said about how much people knew about 2002 even as
it was going on is that people argued Dante over a character who
eventually finished above Cloud in the X-Stats due to getting 70% on
Q-Bert. --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png http://i.imgur.com/597oi.png |
The only match in there that looks outright boring is Cloud/Squall. Mario/X- I think X/Zero could do very well here thanks to rivalry factor. Plus, the fact that it's X and not MM classic makes it easier for them to resist SFF. Very outside chance at pulling the upset, if the voters really really care about rivalries (more likely than Trainers > Mario/Bowser). Red/Ryu/Samus/Boss: should be interesting Link/Frog/Alucard: Link/Alucard would be fairly boring except that we get to see how Link stacks up against Cloud. But this late in the contest, we'd want to see Link beat someone strong.....like Crono level, for the Link/Cloud hype building. Link/Frog could potentially be fun if Frog/Magus can reenact Link/Magus 2003 and overperform. I think they could do that, because once again Link is receiving anti-votes and Frog/Magus can represent the resistance. Mario/Trainers: Could be fun, to see how well the trainers can do. If it's one of the other pairs, yeah, boring. Link/Cloud: Match of the contest. If Cloud wins, that would single-handedly redeem this contest. Still wouldn't be a good contest, but it would come in at "okay" after that. If we actually get a close Link/Cloud match for the first time, that would also be quite good. Final: Cloud/Mario rematch should be interesting even if it's clear that a team that just beat Link is going to win. Link/Mario is boring, but at least we get to see Link beat up Mario again. That's always kind of fun to watch, because every year people think up reasons why Mario should break 40% this time, and it never happens. Though I'd be scared he'd actually do it this time due to Link being saddled with Ganon as a partner. --- 2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud. Link 6, Cloud 2 |
A
games contest really isn't all that exciting - we still have data on
games because we've had a number of games contests. Yeah some things
change, e.g. SMB3 going from strongest Mario game to behind SMW and
SM64, but that's not huge stuff in the big picture. A good bracket could give us some good matches, but overall, we still have plenty of data. And the odds of a good bracket are very slim. So 1) even with a good bracket we have fairly solid data on most stuff and 2) you simply cannot expect a good bracket from Bacon. A fictional characters allowed contest is entirely different. If half the bracket is fictional, that's half the bracket that we have literally zero data on. The odds of a crappy bracket are high regardless of format. But the thing is that even a crappily made fictional character bracket would be very interesting because of the lack of data. Just like in 2002, the bracket was crap and seedings were dumb, but we didn't have data so there was still plenty of interesting stuff. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
Yes,
the cookie will probably remain perfect until Trainers/Fighters. I'm
guessing we finish this contest with three Guru upsets: Trainers > Fighters Alucard > Frog Trainers > Samus The problem with all three is that they are now all expected (pretty sure Pokemon is a big favorite over SF now). To truly get some life into this contest, we'll need either a legit great match or an upset few people see coming. --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/25z1non.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
This
contest has set new precedents for suck that will hopefully remain
unchallenged forever. Even Villains had Diablo's day vote comebacks,
Master Hand, and CATS leading a match for a couple hours. I don't think anything can challenge the Villains Contest. The mere presence of the 8 non-Sephiroth Noble Niners in this one makes it superior. I don't care if every match they have is 60/40 or worse, I'd rather watch Link doubling Megaman than watch boring fodder villain matches even if they are close. --- 2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud. Link 6, Cloud 2 |
I still want a games contest with no OoT/FFVII! --- thelefty for analysis crew 2008 imo -tranny I have a third degree burn in flame-o-nomics -Sir Chris |
Also
in the end these contests are about getting hits to the site. A
fictional character contest would definitely generate external interest
from outside GameFAQs. Absolutely no other type of contest is going to do that. Fictional characters = $$$ for the site. It means more excitement for us. It's win-win for everybody, and there is no alternative contest idea that can possibly match the excitement and hits that it would generate. The fact that Zeus and Adolf were allowed in this contest definitely makes me think Bacon is warming up to the idea, and I think the odds of a fictional character contest are very good. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
And
a games contest could be amazing. All that's needed is 1v1 and no
generation divisions. Good bracketmaking isn't even that important,
because we get most of our good matches (and the vast majority of our
great matches) from matchups Board 8 didn't expect to be close. Bacon
could get a great contest with games just be seeding purely by
nominations, and avoiding obvious SFF (knowing him I expect CT to get
fed to FFVII again because Bacon loves SFF and thinks that's the game
with the closest fanbase. Or actually, first CT will face FFVI and then
the winner will get fed to FFVII) --- 2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud. Link 6, Cloud 2 |
Master Hand alone is better than anything this year. --- http://img.imgcake.com/drakeryn/tiroalecjpgap.jpg http://img.imgcake.com/drakeryn/alecjpgyt.jpg |
red
sox, this contest needs exciting matches to redeem itself. X only
getting beaten 55-45 instead of 60-40 after getting buried by the board
vote does not qualify. Link blowing out relative crap does not work
because we'll have already seen Link pull off three blowouts before
then. Does Link/Amaterasu make this contest not bad? The most
interesting hour of this contest was GlaDOS taking down a fifth of
Magus's lead before failing to stall the rest of the way. At this point
we need good matches, not 'X/Zero doesn't get SFFed quite as badly as
Classic did, which we saw last character battle'. Did Ganondorf and
Bowser's performances vs. Sephiroth redeem the Villains Contest because
they didn't get crushed quite as badly as expected? --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png http://i.imgur.com/597oi.png |
Kefka randomly getting 70% on Wesker is more entertaining than anything in this contest. --- Demyx is better than Axel. http://www.last.fm/user/crazydom |
Only way this contest is redeemed at this point is if Cloud beats Link. Nothing else really can do anything to help it --- http://raptr.com/badge/cf898f37d9c30ef120ada6c35e636ad3/fs.png http://myanimelist.net/signature/RyanSaotome.png |
Kefka/Wesker
actually makes me want to believe that Samus/Ridley is still a monster
and going to storm past Bosses and Trainers/Fighters. Because that fourpack needs to suck horribly to fully complete this contest. --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png http://i.imgur.com/597oi.png |
I
think a 50/50 split between VG characters and fictional characters make
a lot of sense. But that would mean a lot of the usual midcarders not
making the bracket, not to mention potentially undermining the
integrity of a long running VG character contest. So perhaps
sprinkling in 7 or 8 most nominated fictional characters would be the
safer way to go, and probably a better bracket. I am sure people here
would want to see a midcarder like Ryu Hayabusa in the bracket, instead
of someone like Nightcrawler or Silver Surfer. |
WarThaNemesis2 posted... red sox, this contest needs exciting matches to redeem itself. X only getting beaten 55-45 instead of 60-40 after getting buried by the board vote does not qualify. Link blowing out relative crap does not work because we'll have already seen Link pull off three blowouts before then. Does Link/Amaterasu make this contest not bad? The most interesting hour of this contest was GlaDOS taking down a fifth of Magus's lead before failing to stall the rest of the way. At this point we need good matches, not 'X/Zero doesn't get SFFed quite as badly as Classic did, which we saw last character battle'. Did Ganondorf and Bowser's performances vs. Sephiroth redeem the Villains Contest because they didn't get crushed quite as badly as expected? Yeah, red is majorly reaching in trying to make some of these matches sound interesting. Trainers/Fighters/Samus is the most interesting thing. Vampires/CT has the possibility of a good match if CT gets a great pic, vampires are the clear favorites at the moment but this match has some interest because of the "Frog Always Has Good Matches" factor. Other than that there's Link vs. FF7, but Link is a large favorite there. FF7 beating Link would be the most interesting thing that could happen. But even that wouldn't redeem a contest that was otherwise so predictable and had such an extreme paucity of remotely surprising or interesting matches. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
Squall/Sora deserves a mention if stuff like Mario/X is being hyped! --- Praise the Black Turtle, Game of the Decade Guru Champ. (Well, I never promised creativity, did I?!) |
MasterOfHunters posted... I think a 50/50 split between VG characters and fictional characters make a lot of sense. But that would mean a lot of the usual midcarders not making the bracket, not to mention potentially undermining the integrity of a long running VG character contest. So perhaps sprinkling in 7 or 8 most nominated fictional characters would be the safer way to go, and probably a better bracket. I am sure people here would want to see a midcarder like Ryu Hayabusa in the bracket, instead of someone like Nightcrawler or Silver Surfer. Er, what...? o_O Who cares about midcarders? What we want is strong characters, not junk. Just because some chump or mediocre character has made every contest does not mean they are entitled to it. Only have 8 fictional characters would be horrid. And I don't know where you're going with this "integrity" stuff. These are popularity contests. It should be about getting the most popular stuff we can possibly get. As for most people rather seeing Hayabusa than Nightcrawler - yeah, color me skeptical. Who really gives a damn if Hayabusa makes the bracket? And I'm a Hayabusa fan from the NES days. He is irrelevant and completely uninteresting because we know how strong he is. He's just mediocrity. Mediocrity is what we want to eliminate. It is the enemy. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
Oh
wait, I just realized he was probably being sarcastic. Went completely
over my head :) My sarcasm detector was not plugged in at the time I
guess. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
As
for most people rather seeing Hayabusa than Nightcrawler - yeah, color
me skeptical. Who really gives a damn if Hayabusa makes the bracket? And
I'm a Hayabusa fan from the NES days. He is irrelevant and completely
uninteresting because we know how strong he is. He's just mediocrity. Many more GAMERS on a VIDEO GAME WEBSITE care about getting in a semi popular game character than some random comic book character. --- http://raptr.com/badge/cf898f37d9c30ef120ada6c35e636ad3/fs.png http://myanimelist.net/signature/RyanSaotome.png |
Silver Surfer would crush. --- "intention doesn't matter? clearly your cashier degree did not require a law course." - ND to Joyrock on the legality of drinking a soda before paying |
FateStayAlbion posted... Many more GAMERS on a VIDEO GAME WEBSITE care about getting in a semi popular game character than some random comic book character. Yeah, because the gamer demographic doesn't care about those types of characters, and of course Nightcrawler has never appeared in a video game right? Brilliant logic as always Albion. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
creativename posted... FateStayAlbion posted... Many more GAMERS on a VIDEO GAME WEBSITE care about getting in a semi popular game character than some random comic book character. Yeah, because the gamer demographic doesn't care about those types of characters, and of course Nightcrawler has never appeared in a video game right? Brilliant logic as always Albion. You're just overestimating how much people care about these other medias. Everyone here is a gamer. Not everyone will be a comic book fan. Thats just the simple truth. Like personally I don't read comic books so I have no interest in any of these Xmen or Batman characters in a contest on a video game website. I want good video game characters, like Ryu Hayabusa. 5 year old poll, but I doubt much has changed: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2356 Nearly 30% of the site never read comics, and over 50% of the site didn't read comics at the time of the poll. Theres a big difference in terms of people who like games and those who like comics. And the comics they do read are mainly manga. --- http://raptr.com/badge/cf898f37d9c30ef120ada6c35e636ad3/fs.png http://myanimelist.net/signature/RyanSaotome.png |
Yeah,
the final week doesn't look that promising unless Cloud beats Link,
that's true. But it doesn't have to be a total disaster, like the
Villains Contest, yet. There's still time for this contest to distance
itself from the VC and land in the lower end of respectable contests. Yes, Bowser/Ganondorf overperforming on Sephiroth was the highlight of that contest. Imagine how awful it would have been if those 3 characters hadn't been in it, or faced each other. Of course, Bowser/Ganondorf are not Noble Niners and cannot produce nearly the impact on quality that real NNers do in losing to Clinkeroth. I guess what I'm saying is that this contest's quality rides on Link/Cloud. And Link/Cloud alone. --- 2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud. Link 6, Cloud 2 |
Random Q: How do you think Beavis and Butt-head would do in this contest? --- Yoblazer: http://oi53.tinypic.com/2hd0dh1.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
Nightcrawler this is the ultimate 'who in the world cares' option. --- "When I was a young man, I had liberty, but I did not see it. I had time, but I did not know it." |
The only Guru upset i can see is Alucard > Frog. Aside from that the cookie will be perfect. --- Game of the decade? More like Guru of the decade mirite? |
Man, this topic is getting close to reaching 500 posts and no one has even made the next topic yet. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as BlAcK TuRtLe, Guru Champ! |
I would much rather see games or game characters than see Nightcrawler lose in the first round of a contest. --- Watch me play games! http://www.livestream.com/dabu |
I
think fictional characters are promising but probably not going to be
quite as strong as creativename is saying. I'm still taking Link over
Batman, and I don't feel bad about it. Cloud over Batman too. You can
ask, does Cloud > Batman really make sense? And normally, it
intuitively wouldn't, but this site is still FFVII fanboy central, as
much as Link has proven to us that it likes Zelda more. Cloud loses to
Batman on the vast majority of sites- but if Cloud is going to win
somewhere that's not a pure FF fansite, this one would be a pretty good
place for it. I wouldn't be confident in Link > Batman and certainly not in Cloud > Batman. I'd be pretty surprised if Batman could manage an Ulti-style blowout on Link though. --- 2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud. Link 6, Cloud 2 |
From: ZFS | #485 ZFS, I will endure your love of AC1, UC1, and Sony Defense Force habitats, but when you start dissing Nightcrawler, I'm seriously reconsidering our relationship. --- It will launch for $350 with some Wii Sports s***. I bet my life on it. Damn, that KoolAid guy is awesome - NGamer64 |
Mediocrity is what we want to eliminate. It is the enemy. Indeed. Burn the fodder! --- 2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud. Link 6, Cloud 2 |
lets not care too much about what other people think of things now --- http://img.imgcake.com/superangelo128/Higurashipicjpgaz.jpg |
Kingdom Hearts awesome night vote activated. ...Wait, what? --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] |
I like nightcrawler, but he'd do terrible in a battle. --- ##Alec |
seriously, why is Sora/Riku winning updates 2 hours into the night THIS MAKES NO SENSE --- thelefty for analysis crew 2008 imo -tranny I have a third degree burn in flame-o-nomics -Sir Chris |
It's still early in the night. Crono and Megaman never fall off before 2:30 either. --- 2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud. Link 6, Cloud 2 |
Man,
the fact that the most debated match so far is happening right now and
no one is talking about it speaks volumes about this contest. Albion - comic books have nothing to do with it. Do you seriously think guys like Batman, Superman and Spider-Man get most of their strength from comics of all things? That's just being ludicrous. Not like Nightcrawler is anywhere within miles of being among the 32 strongest fictional characters anyway. But even someone as relatively weak and insignificant as Nightcrawler would generate more interest and discussion than the utterly mediocre Hayabusa or someone of his ilk. Encouraging the maintenance of mediocrity is just silliness. A character of proven mediocre strength is not entitled to anything. Unknowns are much more interesting. PartOfYourWorld posted... Random Q: How do you think Beavis and Butt-head would do in this contest? Low midcarders maybe? Could be fodder though. They are long past their heyday. Much like DBZ characters are long past it. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
k that's just variance I think --- Ngirl is a toll bridge - Wigs Gotta pay if you want to come inside! - Ngirl |
I dunno, DBZ characters never really seem to decline much in popularity! --- thelefty for analysis crew 2008 imo -tranny I have a third degree burn in flame-o-nomics -Sir Chris |
red sox 777 posted... Mediocrity is what we want to eliminate. It is the enemy. Indeed. Burn the fodder! Yes. Burn baby burn! Oh the sweet aroma of roasted carcasses of fodder. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
