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#1 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/1/2011 4:09:56 PM | message detail
Slightly over 2 days left until the most important match for the perfect battle brackets.


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SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote. This is the best example of SFF we've ever seen. However take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make perfect sense.

Extrapolated Standings - The mathematical "strength" of a contestant that's determined based on their performance relative to the rest of the field. This number is typically based on the contest entrant's loss, but adjustments are sometimes made. See above for a watered down explanation for how the stats are calculated.
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#2 | KingButz | Posted 12/1/2011 4:18:37 PM | message detail | (edited)
501 post from cheater TRE
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#3 | nintendogirl1 (Moderator) | Posted 12/1/2011 4:21:06 PM | message detail
He probably didn't realise that the topic was locked. Joys of quickpost.
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#4 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 12/1/2011 4:21:34 PM | message detail
http://image.com.com/gamefaqs/images/rivals/rivals-46.jpg

Match pic for Snakes/Pac-Man
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#5 | nintendogirl1 (Moderator) | Posted 12/1/2011 4:22:17 PM | message detail
Hey, what are the 4 worst pics we could find for these characters?
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#6 | Janus5000 | Posted 12/1/2011 4:23:42 PM | message detail
3D Pac-Man versus black-and-white scratch marks.

Cool.
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#7 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/1/2011 4:24:19 PM | message detail
Holy crap, Pac overperformance incoming, and that's saying a lot considering Blinky looks like a bulbous wang.
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#8 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 12/1/2011 4:24:31 PM | message detail
He probably didn't realise that the topic was locked. Joys of quickpost.

This.

http://image.com.com/gamefaqs/images/rivals/rivals-46.jpg

Match pic for Snakes/Pac-Man


Time to fix my Oracle prediction. >_>
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#9 | TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/1/2011 4:33:11 PM | message detail
Yep, I'm definitely leaning fighters on this one
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#10 | KingButz | Posted 12/1/2011 4:44:32 PM | message detail
Wow terrible pic for both sides
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#11 | MoogleKupo141 | Posted 12/1/2011 4:47:30 PM | message detail
Solid snake liquid sounds gross
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#12 | pjbasis | Posted 12/1/2011 4:51:59 PM | message detail
I hope they stop with the cute use of the word "Snake."

Snake vs. Liquid would suffice, as it is the shorthand form of their names.
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#13 | BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 12/1/2011 5:15:44 PM | message detail
Man, I just realized, not only are we seeing Mario/X for like the third time, we're also seeing Mario/Zero for the second time.

And as much a fan as I am of X/Zero, they can't possibly beat Mario. If they can break 45%, I'll be shocked.
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#14 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/1/2011 5:21:14 PM | message detail
The Snakes look terrible, but that picture isn't going to help Pac-Man/Blinky that much.

Not that it even really matters.
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#15 | greatone10 | Posted 12/1/2011 5:21:40 PM | message detail
nintendogirl1 posted...
Hey, what are the 4 worst pics we could find for these characters?

Could be worse for the Snakes. Someone could have been a wise guy and busted out Solid Sprite again.
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#16 | ZFS | Posted 12/1/2011 5:28:29 PM | message detail
oh hey that's my snake pic.

shinkawa art is good stuff.
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#17 | UItimaterializer | Posted 12/1/2011 5:29:32 PM | message detail

From: ZFS | #016
oh hey that's my snake pic.

shinkawa art is good stuff.


Nice pic, dude. I love it.

I made Pac-Man and went with the Party look because I wanted to use something other than the boring old Blinky sprite.
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#18 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/1/2011 5:30:34 PM | message detail
Honestly, I recognize Snake, but if you just showed me that Liquid picture and asked me which MGS character that was, I would guess Ocelot.
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#19 | ZFS | Posted 12/1/2011 5:33:07 PM | message detail
This is Ocelot -- http://i41.tinypic.com/2nja8hf.jpg

I can understand why people wouldn't like the pic, but I'm a big fan of the art style, so I figured it couldn't hurt to use it instead of more goofy Twin Snakes renders. Don't think many people will agree, but it's only against Pac-Man!
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#20 | JaKyL25 | Posted 12/1/2011 5:34:27 PM | message detail
I hope that in the freeform rounds we get at least one pic where Liquid is represented THROUGH THIS ARM.
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#21 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/1/2011 5:37:05 PM | message detail
#22 | ExquisiteSamurai | Posted 12/1/2011 5:37:44 PM | message detail
I am the biggest FFVII fan as they come and even I know Link is the foregone conclusion to win.
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#23 | ZFS | Posted 12/1/2011 5:38:22 PM | message detail
http://lparchive.org/Metal-Gear-Solid-2-(Screenshot)/Update%206/mgs2.5_139_cb4.jpg

just cut out dat arm
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#24 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/1/2011 5:41:26 PM | message detail
I did crop out a picture of Liquid's arm as a gag for one of his match pics last year. Too bad he didn't make it to round 2 so it could've been used!

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#25 | ZFS | Posted 12/1/2011 5:42:41 PM | message detail
Haha, that is awesome. The Arm enough of a joke to win the contest stay tuned.
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#26 | JaKyL25 | Posted 12/1/2011 5:43:21 PM | message detail
Shaped like a fist to fist your....
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#27 | TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/1/2011 5:46:44 PM | message detail

From: ZFS | #016
shinkawa art is good stuff.


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#28 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/1/2011 6:17:53 PM | message detail
So...any chance someone other than Layton/Don Paolo finish dead last in the stats now?
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#29 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/1/2011 6:20:16 PM | message detail
Actually, I guess Nook/Redd are the favorites at the moment. Based on the current percentage, Link would have to beat Cloud with 55.48%+ for Layton/Paolo to finish below them.
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#30 | creativename | Posted 12/1/2011 6:35:11 PM | message detail
Hey, I'm impressed by FF7's day vote here. Kratos is more a second half character I think and yet FF7 will finish almost at almost exactly the same %age they had at noon.

Maybe the lessening proportion of votes coming from the ASV from earlier years means it's not as much of a liability for FF7 any more, and their SNV strength is slightly more relevant than before.

Also past the first few updates this has to be one of the flattest trend charts we've ever seen. There's been like zero movement.
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#31 | creativename | Posted 12/1/2011 6:40:55 PM | message detail
Aw shucks, Pac-Man just looks way too cute to vote against!

MGS undperformance upcoming.
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#32 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/1/2011 6:48:59 PM | message detail
Kratos/Zeus is going nearly even with Cloud/Sephiroth with the ASV. That's a bit of surprise to me, as Kratos/Zeus had no problem winning the ASV over Nook/Redd and that was just a 12-hour match.
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#33 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 12/1/2011 6:51:08 PM | message detail | (edited)
You guys think we'll get Pac-Man > Crono in the stats this contest?

I certainly don't.

Also the more I thought about it, the more I've come to believe that Samus/Ridley's path this contest is essentially a retread of Metroid Prime's path last contest. To elaborate, Metroid Prime was coming off of three matches which were not unanimously labelled as overperformances, and we also thought that it might be weak due to its horrendous showing in BGE2009, so many of us thought, to the very end, that Half-Life 2 had a chance at pulling off the upset. Sounds like the same situation with many of us believing that the Bosses have a chance at pulling off the upset here.

Summary: Samus will squeak past The Bosses before losing the round afterwards.

Also I thought about Samus's rivalry vs. Sonic's rivalry, and man, that's just utter chaos (no reference to the blue liquid monster intended!. On the one hand, Sonic's rivalry is more important to his series than Samus's is to her series, but on the other hand, Ridley would eat Robotnik for breakfast in a contest match (forget about the acrobatic blue hedgehog being 0-2 against the acrobatic blue woman - so much blue!), and the Sonic series has a penchant for disappointment while the Metroid series has more of a penchant for impressing. Argh. Would probably just pick Sonic's rivalry because I would vote for it over Samus's.

Then watch the Nintendo SFF kill Sonic's rivalry. Oh well, I don't care, I'd still take Sonic's rivalry to beat Samus's.
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#34 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/1/2011 6:52:29 PM | message detail
Literally nobody expects Pac-Man to do better than Crono.
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#35 | AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 12/1/2011 6:53:35 PM | message detail
Post 500 in stats topic should have been "James Bond"
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#36 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 12/1/2011 7:00:45 PM | message detail | (edited)
LeonhartFour posted...
Literally nobody expects Pac-Man to do better than Crono.

Not like I do! I get a feeling that Pac-Man won't do much worse for some reason.

Speaking of Crono, I've noticed that the only rivalries featuring strong characters that were fodderized were Leon's and Luigi's (also maybe Commander Shepard's). The only conclusion I can draw is that even though people may not care much for actual rivalries like Crono/Lavos and Ness/Giygas, they perceive such rivalries as representing their overall games. It probably doesn't help that Chrono Trigger and Earthbound are JRPGs (a genre where plot tends to take center stage), and that Lavos and Giygas are plastered all over those games' storylines even though those games' protagonists never encounter them until the end of the game.

Heck, Samus/Ridley could be a souped-up version of such a thing. I could counter by saying that people don't play Metroid games for plot (at least, I hope no one does! After Other M's undeserved negative reception among fans, I really have to question myself about that, though), but that's a series that lives and dies off of its hardcore fans, who surely pay attention to the series' overarching plot. At least I do, although that's probably because I have no other series to follow an overarching plot for!
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#37 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/1/2011 7:01:05 PM | message detail
Yes, you also literally don't think Brawl helps Snake very much, so I'm not sure I can take your contest intuition seriously!
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#38 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 12/1/2011 7:03:10 PM | message detail
I do. I reasoned it out myself over a few posts in the last discussion topic.
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#40 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/1/2011 7:35:25 PM | message detail

From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #039
Times like this I wish GameFAQs had an ignore button so I don't have to read LMS's posts.


I have some good news for you then...!
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#41 | Yami_no_Geimu | Posted 12/1/2011 7:53:18 PM | message detail
Guys, can you help me with Pac-man/Solid decision? I don;t know anything about the popularity of these games.
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#42 | ssjnarutobankai | Posted 12/1/2011 7:55:04 PM | message detail
Yami_no_Geimu posted...
Guys, can you help me with Pac-man/Solid decision? I don;t know anything about the popularity of these games.

Pac-Man is a game everyone knows and loves and destroyed gaming icon Crash Bandicoot last round. Solid Snake is from an obscure military shooter game and failed to break 60% on an obscure RPG character with a terribly rival. Pac-Man stomps.
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#43 | Yami_no_Geimu | Posted 12/1/2011 7:56:51 PM | message detail
...Also with the FF8/SC match? I'm going for FF8 but I don't know if I'm overestimating FF8 due to my own fanboy bias.
And DMC/KH?
...And Megaman/MK?

...sorry.
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#44 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 12/1/2011 7:57:15 PM | message detail
BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
Times like this I wish GameFAQs had an ignore button so I don't have to read LMS's posts. He must have some kind of mental condition.

What mental condition?

Perhaps this is not a bad time for me to go back into hiding...
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#45 | ssjnarutobankai | Posted 12/1/2011 8:00:46 PM | message detail
Yami_no_Geimu posted...
...Also with the FF8/SC match? I'm going for FF8 but I don't know if I'm overestimating FF8 due to my own fanboy bias.
And DMC/KH?
...And Megaman/MK?

...sorry.


YOU may like FF8 but everyone else hates it because it was basically a soap-opera. Soul Calibur is a well-respected fighting series. SC wins but it might be closer than expected

DMC wins easily. Sora almost lost to Adolf Hitler last round

Mortal Kombat wins easily. When was the last time anyone played Mega Man? 20 years ago?
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#46 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/1/2011 8:03:09 PM | message detail
FFVIII romps

KH is the favorite, DMC has a chance

MMX wins

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#47 | charmander6000 | Posted 12/1/2011 8:05:05 PM | message detail
Match XLVI: (6) Pac-Man/Blinky vs. (2) Solid Snake/Liquid Snake

Previous Round

Crash Bandicoot/Dr. Neo Cortex – 36.49%
Pac-Man/Blinky – 63.51%

Solid Snake/Liquid Snake – 58.77%
Crono/Lavos – 41.23%

Analysis

Pac-Man and Blinky were able to impress against Crash and Cortex while the Snakes were not very impressive against Crono and Lavos. Of course that doesn’t mean much as Solid and Liquid should have no problem taking this match with ease. It is pretty rare to see an entrant vastly out do their previous round performance though.

I think some people are overestimating the blowout for this match. While Pac-Man has collapsed against strong characters based on his match against Cloud it seems to be more along the lines of iconic Nintendo like characters. I guess you could argue that Solid Snake is iconic, but most people seem to only care about Solid Snake after Metal Gear Solid was released. Pac-Man isn’t fodder and the pair could bring in some joke votes with Blinky being in the poll.

Solid Snake should do well, but it won’t be enough to make anyone feel confident in that they have a chance in the next round, but that was always going to be a long shot. Breaking 70% should be possible for Solid and Liquid Snake, but if enough joke votes come in we could be seeing something below 70%.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Solid Snake/Liquid Snake > Pac-Man/Blinky

charmander6000’s Prediction: Solid Snake/Liquid Snake wins, 69.84% - 30.16%
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#48 | Yami_no_Geimu | Posted 12/1/2011 8:05:38 PM | message detail
Wait, what? Which of you is right?
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