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#351 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/30/2011 4:52:42 PM | message detail
SNV is starting to kick in for the CT guys.
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#352 | FateStayAlbion | Posted 11/30/2011 6:37:24 PM | message detail
#353 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/30/2011 6:40:47 PM | message detail
The interesting thing here is if Frog/Magus win next round, Shepard/Saren will be the weakest rivalry in this division, and some people were afraid it'd win it! There's some wiggle room for Alucard/Dracula to win and for it to finish last, even.

If Alucard wins with 53.68% or less, Shepard/Saren will finish last in this division in the X-Stats.
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#354 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/30/2011 6:47:22 PM | message detail
Also, Allen confirmed multiple match pics per match starting in round 3.

Whoo
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#355 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/30/2011 6:48:50 PM | message detail
Hmm... that got me thinking about which of the "B-Tier" guys do the most or least for their rivalries. We have

Edgeworth
Dr. Breen
Dracula
Saren
Chell
Giygas
Magus (figure most would agree that Frog is the lead here)
Vamp

How would you rank them?
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#356 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/30/2011 6:52:19 PM | message detail | (edited)
Edgeworth
Chell
Magus
Dracula
Vamp
Giygas
Breen
Saren

I actually don't think Dracula has been adding that much to Alucard. I feel like he'd be winning by a lot more if he did, since he already has a case for being the strongest individual character in this division. I don't really think anyone beyond the top 2 adds very much at all, really.

We'll see though.
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#357 | KamikazePotato | Posted 11/30/2011 6:51:53 PM | message detail
Dracula>>Magus>>the rest.
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#358 | charmander6000 | Posted 11/30/2011 6:54:51 PM | message detail
If Magus was adding a lot they wouldn't be struggling to defeat GlaDOS IMO.
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#359 | charmander6000 | Posted 11/30/2011 6:55:46 PM | message detail
Match XLV: (1) Cloud Strife/Sephiroth vs. (4) Kratos/Zeus

Previous Round

Cloud Strife/Sephiroth – 76.64%
Lloyd Irving/Kratos Aurion – 23.36%

Kratos/Zeus – 74.12%
Professor Layton/Don Paolo – 25.88%

Analysis

While the performance by Cloud and Sephiroth was disappointing in hindsight I’m not exactly surprised. Anti-votes are going to prevent Cloud and Sephiroth from scoring any blowouts and as much as some people like saying it Lloyd and Kratos Aurion do have some strength. As anti-votes become weaker against stronger opponents Kratos and Zeus could potentially give us a better look at whether Cloud and Sephiroth have a chance at winning this contest.

I do wonder what the strength of Kratos is, last contest he didn’t look that good against Tails, but he did fairly well against Charizard, even if you ignore the matches against Bowser and Mario. God of War III has come and gone since then so maybe he’s no longer as strong as his performance on Charizard indicated. Even if he isn’t Kratos does have decent amount of strength and would probably do well against either Cloud or Sephiroth, relatively speaking.

Breaking 70% in this match would be a great performance for Cloud and Sephiroth; sadly I feel that there will be enough anti-votes in this match to push Cloud and Sephiroth below that value. Some people feel that there may be some Playstation SFF in this match, but personally I don’t see it having much of an effect. The pairs weren’t even on the same console and even if they were the two genres are very different and I just don’t see people that have played both games disproportioning supporting Cloud and Sephiroth.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Cloud Strife/Sephiroth > Kratos/Zeus

charmander6000’s Prediction: Cloud Strife/Sephiroth wins, 68.96% - 31.04%
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Rivalry Rumble: 47/54 Today: Frog/Magus
#360 | red sox 777 | Posted 11/30/2011 7:00:13 PM | message detail
If Dracula is adding more than Magus, Alucard/Dracula are winning 60/40 or worse next round. I doubt it though.
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#361 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/30/2011 7:02:21 PM | message detail
After Portal 2, both Magus and Frog can lose to GlaDOS individually. If we assume both of em have gotten weaker after two more years of aging and GlaDOS has gotten stronger after Portal 2, it really doesn't take much.
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#362 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/30/2011 7:03:00 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #361
After Portal 2, both Magus and Frog can lose to GlaDOS individually.


They can, but I'm not pickin' it.

I think Chell/GlaDOS is getting a decent rivalry boost here.
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#363 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/30/2011 7:09:43 PM | message detail
I'll probably take either Frog or Magus to lose against any decent midcarder. Chrono Trigger isn't getting any younger, these guys are getting zero new exposure, and they both looked pretty bad last year. Frog made it out smelling a little less poopy, but he was clearly a weaker contest entrant than Kefka, and Magus... well yeah. Alucard put such a beating on him last year that his rivalry managing even 45-46% next round will mean a healthy rivalry boost. It's sad to admit, but I think this once formidable duo may be a lot closer to whatever arbitrary "fodder line" we wish to create than most of us would admit.
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#364 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/30/2011 7:11:05 PM | message detail
I think Frog still has a little bit of an edge on Magus, and he's still decent.

Not sure GlaDOS has leapt up to the level of "decent midcarder" yet though. It's not really faith in Frog or Magus's strength.
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#365 | charmander6000 | Posted 11/30/2011 7:35:22 PM | message detail
Even if you think GlaDOS can match Frog and Magus they would still have no problem against Chell.
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Rivalry Rumble: 47/54 Today: Frog/Magus
#366 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 11/30/2011 8:18:48 PM | message detail
Huh, the Half-Life 2 guys finished ahead of the Mass Effect guys in the stats?

Would we legitimately pick Freeman over Shepard, or is that all Saren's doing? Thinking about it a little, it's not too hard to see that it's the latter - in a normal contest environment, Shepard has an entire series to back himself up while Freeman has basically one game, and then there's the Mass Effect series being really really mainstream now while Freeman has not been in a game since 2007.

Here however, it's a simple matter of Half-Life 2 vs. Mass Effect 1, and we already know that that would be a 60-40 beatdown for the former.

IIRC Breen and Saren both were in the top 30 in IGN's villains countdown, but to my knowledge, even though their games' fans consider them to be amazing villains, they don't see much of a rivalry with their games' heroes.

Also last year I watched a YouTube LP of Half-Life 2, and while I'm not 100% sure, the final boss battle seemed to be little more than a matter of shooting photons at Dr. Breen's throne room from a completely different building.

I kinda want to say that Freeman/Breen is a rivalry representative of Half-Life 2 itself in the same way the Sonic vs. Eggman rivalry is representative of that whole series, but then I remember that the "real" rivalry in that game is Freeman vs. the Combine (and Dr. Breen is just someone who propagandizes the Combine). I'm sure Half-Life 2 fans will agree.

I wanted to do random comparisons of Eggman and Ridley (summary: they're both largely meant to be the rivals of Sonic and Samus, but the Sonic series' plot is centered around Sonic's rivalry with Eggman while Samus's rivalry with Ridley is largely a sideshow in the Metroid series' overarching plot), but meh. Eggman wins that easily. It in fact almost kills me to think that the blue hedgehog's rivalry could be weaker than the blue woman's.
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#367 | MoogleKupo141 | Posted 11/30/2011 8:20:23 PM | message detail
you are saying way too many words, dude
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#368 | jacko_vdz | Posted 11/30/2011 8:21:09 PM | message detail
Hopefully Cloud/Seph can impress us today!
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#369 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 11/30/2011 8:21:10 PM | message detail
Whenever I show up I just feel like writing so much for some reason...
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#370 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 11/30/2011 8:21:19 PM | message detail
I wouldn't take Half-Life 2 to break 60% on Mass Effect 1 in a million years. No way in hell do I take Resident Evil 5 to be that close to Resident Evil 4.
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#371 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 11/30/2011 8:26:31 PM | message detail | (edited)
Well it is what the GOTD stats project, although Half-Life 2 is stuck behind Fallout 3's overperformance against Brawl. Still, I would honestly take Half-Life 2 over both Metroid Prime and Fallout 3 now (since a new Metroid and a new Fallout were both released at around the time the GOTD contest took place, which I suspect is the reason Prime and Fallout 3 got 1 seeds - since then Other M and New Vegas have both fallen off the map to no end, while Valve is probably in gamers' minds more thanks to Portal 2).

Also I know there were some people who wanted Sonic's rival to be Knuckles or Shadow, but come on. Sonic's rivalry with Eggman spans the entire series (and is the main point of the series too - there's a reason why that series is called "Sonic the Hedgehog"), while Sonic's rivalries with the other two guys are largely simple sideshows in the games that they are "prominent" in. Sonic 3 & Knuckles and Sonic Adventure are the only Sonic games where Sonic's rivalry with Knuckles is really on "full" display, and even then the latter might be pushing it.

Just to ask: Grand Theft Auto IV vs. Sonic Adventure, who do you pick to win?
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#372 | BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/30/2011 8:24:56 PM | message detail
For some reason, I have this feeling that next round's Alucard/Frog is going to be a classic.

Those 2 were always fairly close to eachother, and I think people aren't giving Chell/Glados and Raiden/Vamp enough credit here.
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#373 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 11/30/2011 8:25:01 PM | message detail
Someone actually made GOTD X-stats? They aren't on creativename's site or lol X-Stats.
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#374 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/30/2011 8:29:47 PM | message detail

From: WarThaNemesis2 | #373
Someone actually made GOTD X-stats? They aren't on creativename's site or lol X-Stats.


Well, they've existed since the contest ended, so don't ask me why neither one of them has used them! I kept up with the X-Stats for GOTD round by round just like I've been doing for the last few contests.

http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/XStats#Fall_2010

You can find them here.
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#375 | FFDragon | Posted 11/30/2011 8:31:42 PM | message detail
Shepard has an entire series to back him up? Freeman has one game?

None of this makes sense.
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#376 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 11/30/2011 8:34:08 PM | message detail
Oh yeah, Shepard was nothing before ME2 came out.

Whatever.
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#377 | charmander6000 | Posted 11/30/2011 8:45:10 PM | message detail
I wouldn't be surprised if Freeman was stronger than Shepard. While he's a lot stronger with Mass Effect 2 he only got 39% on Pikachu weeks after ME2. It wouldn't be a stretch to see him weaker now just like Master Chief post Halo 3 and even then Freeman could have gotten 39% on Pikachu last year, he got 38% on Tifa (even if you think she's weaker that's still pretty good)
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Rivalry Rumble: 47/54 Today: Frog/Magus
#378 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 11/30/2011 8:48:21 PM | message detail
Thinking about Shepard now doesn't really matter because by the time the next Character Battle happens we'll be hot on the tails of Mass Effect 3.
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#379 | Master Moltar | Posted 11/30/2011 9:01:15 PM | message detail
Cloud Strife vs. Sephiroth 72.73%

8
Kratos vs. Zeus 27.27%

3
TOTAL VOTES 11

rare footage of the ff7 board vote
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#380 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/30/2011 9:01:17 PM | message detail
Vote Accepted

Cloud Strife vs. Sephiroth 75% 12
Kratos vs. Zeus 25% 4
TOTAL VOTES 16

Aw yeah FFVII board vote
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#381 | xp1337 | Posted 11/30/2011 9:01:22 PM | message detail
Cloud Strife vs. Sephiroth 70% 7
Kratos vs. Zeus 30% 3
TOTAL VOTES 10
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#382 | tennisboy213 | Posted 11/30/2011 9:01:23 PM | message detail
Vote Accepted

Cloud Strife vs. Sephiroth 61.54% 16
Kratos vs. Zeus 38.46% 10
TOTAL VOTES 26
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#383 | GrapefruitKing | Posted 11/30/2011 9:01:46 PM | message detail
yep, Cloud/Seph still manage to lose the early board vote
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#384 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 11/30/2011 9:01:52 PM | message detail
Not even Cloud can look dreadful with the board vote against Kratos.
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#385 | FateStayAlbion | Posted 11/30/2011 9:01:53 PM | message detail
#386 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/30/2011 9:02:28 PM | message detail
33.41% for Frog/Magus.

Guessing Chell/GlaDOS was the overall favorite.
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#387 | TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 11/30/2011 9:02:42 PM | message detail
FF7 winning the board vote? You guys really hate God of War, huh?
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#388 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 11/30/2011 9:02:54 PM | message detail
#389 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/30/2011 9:03:01 PM | message detail
DAMMIT I MISSED THE EARLY VOTE

How was it?
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#390 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/30/2011 9:03:16 PM | message detail
Man, I finally moved up a spot in the Battle Challenge.

Chell/GlaDOS was actually the overall favorite in the Battle Challenge, too, albeit slightly.
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#391 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/30/2011 9:03:43 PM | message detail
Cloud/Sephiroth were around 65% in the early vote (for like 30 seconds at the most), but then quickly recovered from that bad start and had no problem getting to 70%.
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#392 | red sox 777 | Posted 11/30/2011 9:03:44 PM | message detail
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#393 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/30/2011 9:04:46 PM | message detail
Remember, Cloud/Sephy had less than 70% against Lloyd/Kratos at the end of the board vote last round...!
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#394 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/30/2011 9:05:13 PM | message detail
LOOK AT THIS DOMINATION. THEIR FORM IS PERFECT. IT'S BEAUTIFUL.
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#395 | charmander6000 | Posted 11/30/2011 9:05:19 PM | message detail
48 perfect brackets remain.
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Rivalry Rumble: 49/56 Today: Cloud/Sephiroth
#396 | GrapefruitKing | Posted 11/30/2011 9:05:43 PM | message detail
It'd be so hilarious that Lloyd/Kratos > Kratos>/Zeus
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#397 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 11/30/2011 9:05:48 PM | message detail
Cloud and Seph manage to come up with a performance?!
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#398 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/30/2011 9:05:53 PM | message detail
96 perfects in the Battle Challenge, too. Finally under 100.
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#399 | TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 11/30/2011 9:06:14 PM | message detail
#400 | The Real Truth | Posted 11/30/2011 9:06:34 PM | message detail
Cloud has an unfair sunglasses advantage
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