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#101 | vcharon | Posted 11/28/2011 2:56:32 PM | message detail
Link beat Santa; on Christmas.
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#102 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 11/28/2011 3:00:54 PM | message detail
I like to believe Mickey Mouse would have strength in an all-fictional contest. Probably wrong to do so, but hey!
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#103 | vcharon | Posted 11/28/2011 3:03:14 PM | message detail
Ideas on the strongest Disney character in a fictional contest here on Gamefaqs?
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#104 | junk_funk | Posted 11/28/2011 3:04:11 PM | message detail
#105 | BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/28/2011 3:04:19 PM | message detail

From: vcharon | #103
Ideas on the strongest Disney character in a fictional contest here on Gamefaqs?


Hercules?
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#106 | pjbasis | Posted 11/28/2011 3:19:35 PM | message detail
Why wouldn't Mickey be the strongest? Hes pretty damn prominent in a certain popular Square RPG series!
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#107 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 11/28/2011 3:29:03 PM | message detail
I'm starting to think it'd be worth an all-fictional contest just for the arguments in the stats topic.
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#108 | red sox 777 | Posted 11/28/2011 3:59:58 PM | message detail
Link should beat Santa on any day of the year. He's a vastly superior character. I mean, come on, Santa's probably not even in the top 10 of non-VG fictional characters. Probably not even close to top 10. He still performed like a Noble Niner on Link. If he had done any better, I'd be terrified for Link against some of the stronger non-VG characters.
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#109 | YoboD | Posted 11/28/2011 4:01:07 PM | message detail
vcharon posted...
Ideas on the strongest Disney character in a fictional contest here on Gamefaqs?

Woody and Buzz
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#110 | XIII_rocks | Posted 11/28/2011 4:01:40 PM | message detail
#111 | red sox 777 | Posted 11/28/2011 4:01:57 PM | message detail
I'd think Aladdin, Simba, and Ariel would be pretty strong.
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#112 | The n00b Avenger | Posted 11/28/2011 4:03:25 PM | message detail
Simba has the furry vote, the protagonist vote, and being from the best disney movie vote
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#113 | JJH777 | Posted 11/28/2011 4:17:06 PM | message detail
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#114 | creativename | Posted 11/28/2011 4:19:48 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #402
Common sense? Batman is basically the Mario overall.


No, he's not like Mario. Mario underperforms due to lack of badass character appeal (Mickey Mouse would probably be closest parallel the Mario of fictional characters). Batman oozes character appeal more than any character like, ever. The public gobbles him up.

Hell, based on the Arkham game alone with absolutely no prior existence he'd probably be a low midcarder or higher based on character design. And yet the Arkham game would mean nothing to his actual strength because he's on such a higher level that it hardly qualifies as a a drop in the bucket.

From: red sox 777 | #406
Mario would get slapped down again, just like the last 3 times.


I would take Mario over Seph today. Not confidently at all, but I'd lean that way. Seph's taken a tumble.

From: red sox 777 | #410
Weaker


Than Snake, maaaaybe...but not weaker than Samus. Virtually equal to Samus IMO.

I do believe he used to be weaker, and that Samus could well have won directly the year Shadow got 45% on Mario - people forget how much weaker Mario was before "the shift". The Nintendo Boost did wonders for him. He should be a slight bit stronger indirectly than Samus ever since the Boost though.

From: Kotetsu534 | #502
I like to believe Mickey Mouse would have strength in an all-fictional contest. Probably wrong to do so, but hey!


Midcard, maybe high midcard. Not sure if he'd be stronger than Sora. Mickey lacks the "action" appeal most of the top characters have. Mickey has no weapons. No weapons=bad thing.

From: Kotetsu534 | #507
I'm starting to think it'd be worth an all-fictional contest just for the arguments in the stats topic.


Yes, the discussions would dwarf anything we've seen in years and years. Because so much would be completely unknown.
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#115 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/28/2011 4:23:22 PM | message detail
I think Mickey, Donald, Goofy, Buzz Lightyear, and Jack Sparrow would probably be tops for Disney. I doubt Aladdin or Simba would be as popular as their movies would suggest - they might be outclassed by Genie and Scar.
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#116 | JaKyL25 | Posted 11/28/2011 4:24:59 PM | message detail
Strongest Disney character = Sora. <_<
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#117 | creativename | Posted 11/28/2011 4:27:33 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #508
Link should beat Santa on any day of the year. He's a vastly superior character. I mean, come on, Santa's probably not even in the top 10 of non-VG fictional characters. Probably not even close to top 10. He still performed like a Noble Niner on Link. If he had done any better, I'd be terrified for Link against some of the stronger non-VG characters.


Agreed, no way in hell is Santa even on Christmas is top 10 fictional characters.

Let's be real - Cloud isn't far from Link in relative terms, at all. Could anyone here have any confidence whatsoever that Cloud beats Batman? And there's a very small leap from beating Cloud to beating Link.

In the end it's about statistics. The great majority of potential characters are *not allowed* due to CJayC's technicality. It's a sheer population/statistics issue.

Without a shadow of a doubt, the disallowed characters have much, much more depth of strength than what the VG characters we've seen have. Again - the 64th strongest disallowed character trounces the 64th strongest VG character. Completely destroys them.

And these things work on power distributions. 80/20 rule and all that, the rich gobble up the wealth. When you increase the population, you get more outliers. Relative to the median income, the richest person today is richer than the richest person when the population was a 500 million people rather than 7 billion. Even if the shape of the distribution is unchanged.

Since we know that the disallowed characters have more depth, it's not a far step to say they'd have more guys at the top level as well, and that the strongest disallowed outlier (Batman, presumably) would be stronger than the strongest VG outlier (Link).
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#118 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/28/2011 4:28:34 PM | message detail
I think that's far from guaranteed, actually. A truly likable and awesome Disney character like Genie or Buzz might work him.
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#119 | Ngamer64 | Posted 11/28/2011 4:29:04 PM | message detail
What's this, people talking about an All-Fictional Character Battle? Then you'll love hearing how yoblazer and Leon think GameFAQs Contests can still be saved, one of many topics we get into on the new episode of The Show!

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/61183288
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#120 | creativename | Posted 11/28/2011 4:31:42 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #555
I think Mickey, Donald, Goofy, Buzz Lightyear, and Jack Sparrow would probably be tops for Disney. I doubt Aladdin or Simba would be as popular as their movies would suggest - they might be outclassed by Genie and Scar.


Jack Sparrow should beat those other guys (even though I don't think he'd be all that strong himself - I'd say high midcarder). Mickey, Donald, Goofy just don't have that badass factor, they aren't fighters. And I'd looove for Buzz to be strong (freakin' love Buzz) but I wouldn't have confidence in him doing anything.

Not sure about Genie>Aladdin, but I think Mufasa could beat Simba. Kind of a Tidus/Jecht relationship there. Simba is pretty whiny. He'd beat Scar though.
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#121 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 11/28/2011 4:33:11 PM | message detail
Dunno about Kingdom Hearts since I never got very far, maybe that does something for him, but I doubt Mickey would be especially strong without it.

Mickey Mouse is practically the Pac-Man of cartoon characters. Everybody knows who he is, but who cares about him nowadays?
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#122 | red sox 777 | Posted 11/28/2011 4:33:21 PM | message detail
This could be bias talking, but I think Ariel could be pretty close to the top for Disney characters. She does the emotional attachment thing very well, and that is the #1 thing for characters.
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#123 | creativename | Posted 11/28/2011 4:33:32 PM | message detail
Oh - Mr. Incredible could be decent midcard. Not Disney at the time, but Disney/Pixar are the same now.
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#124 | Haste_2 | Posted 11/28/2011 4:35:21 PM | message detail
Considering that pilot dude from Ducktales won the "best sidekick" contest on GameSpot, I figure Scrooge McDuck would have a good shot, too.
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#125 | red sox 777 | Posted 11/28/2011 4:36:21 PM | message detail
As for Jack Sparrow, he's too........weird, for lack of a better term. You need to appear more mainstream, less niche, than that to venture into the elite ranks on this site. Doesn't matter if his movies are mainstream, to be an elite character, you have to play the part.
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#126 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/28/2011 4:42:58 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #122
This could be bias talking, but I think Ariel could be pretty close to the top for Disney characters. She does the emotional attachment thing very well, and that is the #1 thing for characters.


If your bias wrote a book, I would buy ten copies.

Ariel would be one of the strongest on any site with a more even male/female distribution and would probably be the strongest on any site that's as overwhelmingly young female as this one is young male. I can't imagine the 95% male GameFAQs voterbase voting for female Disney characters though.
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#127 | Ngamer64 | Posted 11/28/2011 4:44:46 PM | message detail
While we're on the subject, wanted to share the results of last week's LL poll which will no doubt translate perfectly into All-Fictional popularity on this site.

Hottest Disney Princess?
Snow White 3.00% 69
Cinderella 2.04% 47
Aurora 3.00% 69
Ariel 20.40% 469
Belle 17.57% 404
Jasmine 42.80% 984
Pocahontas 6.87% 158
Mulan 4.31% 99
TOTAL VOTES 2299

*cue yoblazer tears*

Oh guess there was also this one last week.

Best X-man that isn't Wolverine or Gambit?
Colossus 6.39% 170
Kitty Pryde 3.72% 99
Jean Grey 6.58% 175
Beast 6.77% 180
Nightcrawler 26.21% 697
Professor Xavier 10.91% 290
Cyclops 8.73% 232
Magneto 30.69% 816
TOTAL VOTES 2659
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#128 | KamikazePotato | Posted 11/28/2011 4:45:58 PM | message detail
Mulan is the best Disney princess tbqh
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#129 | creativename | Posted 11/28/2011 4:51:52 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #605
As for Jack Sparrow, he's too........weird, for lack of a better term. You need to appear more mainstream, less niche, than that to venture into the elite ranks on this site. Doesn't matter if his movies are mainstream, to be an elite character, you have to play the part.


I don't think it's that he's too weird, I think he's too new. Guys like Spider-Man are ancient and well-established. If Jack Sparrow got consistent material for decades (he won't, obviously) then we'd be talking an elite character.

Plus Jack Sparrow isn't the nominal character for his series. It was more an ensemble cast thing.

As is, like I said, I see him as high midcard or slightly lower than that. Like, for instance, I'd have no real idea who'd win a Jack Sparrow vs. Aeris match. I mean how do you even analyze that.

Which of course would be the cool thing - the endless debate due to half the bracket being complete unknowns. Plus, we'd have more good matches. Currently the strength distribution is so damn skewed. Add a boatload of legit disallowed characters, and suddenly a lot more people are closer in strength, and the weakest character in the bracket is quite a bit closer to Link than is currently the case.
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#130 | abdou | Posted 11/28/2011 5:20:23 PM | message detail
great picture for the lawyers

won't save them from getting stomped
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#131 | greatone10 | Posted 11/28/2011 5:23:00 PM | message detail
Yes, my Lawyers pic made it, and with the incredible Alucard "What is a Man" pic as well!
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#132 | foxhead84 | Posted 11/28/2011 5:30:15 PM | message detail
abdou posted...
great picture for the lawyers

won't save them from getting stomped


what's the url again???
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#133 | greatone10 | Posted 11/28/2011 5:33:25 PM | message detail
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#134 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/28/2011 6:02:44 PM | message detail

From: creativename | #120
Not sure about Genie>Aladdin, but I think Mufasa could beat Simba. Kind of a Tidus/Jecht relationship there. Simba is pretty whiny. He'd beat Scar though.


I'd be shocked if Mufasa was the strongest character from The Lion King. Doesn't play a big enough role in the movie.
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#135 | WhiteLens | Posted 11/28/2011 6:13:07 PM | message detail
And Simba has Kingdom Hearts going for him if that matters.
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#136 | pjbasis | Posted 11/28/2011 6:15:46 PM | message detail
Genie > Aladdin is a lock.

And Mickey does have badass factor as long as he gets his Keyblade.
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#137 | red sox 777 | Posted 11/28/2011 6:28:53 PM | message detail
Rank the following characters:

Link
Cloud
Snake
Sephiroth
Samus
Mario
Crono
Megaman
Sonic

Batman
Darth Vader
Han Solo
Spiderman
Genie
Harry Potter
Luke Skywalker
Santa Claus
Sherlock Holmes
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#138 | JJH777 | Posted 11/28/2011 6:32:39 PM | message detail
Sherlock Holmes beats all of them.
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#139 | pjbasis | Posted 11/28/2011 6:35:36 PM | message detail
Strongest Star Wars character > Batman

Who that is, I don't know.
Still think Yoda is at least third strongest.
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#140 | red sox 777 | Posted 11/28/2011 6:36:32 PM | message detail
You know, intuitively you'd think that the non-VG fictional character field should be a lot stronger, but looking at those lists, I think the VG characters actually stack up pretty well. Though those probably aren't the 9 strongest non-VG characters, but still. Link does need a challenge, so bring it on.
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#141 | pjbasis | Posted 11/28/2011 6:42:08 PM | message detail
All I know is, Goku would be a solid midcarder.
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#142 | transience | Posted 11/28/2011 6:43:12 PM | message detail
I love how this topic has turned into offseason filler talk in the middle of a contest. this contest really does suck.

oh well, at least it starts to pick up a little tonight
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#143 | red sox 777 | Posted 11/28/2011 6:43:53 PM | message detail
Back in 2003, Goku probably would have been one of the strongest characters on the site. Now, he's probably far weaker. I tried to watch some Dragonball Z after about a 10 year gap, and it was unbelievably awful. I could not believe that I, at any age, had ever liked this show.
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#144 | Sorozone | Posted 11/28/2011 6:44:59 PM | message detail
What are you taking about, DBZ is still awesome!
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#145 | pjbasis | Posted 11/28/2011 6:47:07 PM | message detail
The anime is just incredibly slow paced.

Even DBKai felt slow.
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#146 | abdou | Posted 11/28/2011 6:49:19 PM | message detail
I still love DBZ maybe its nostalgia though.
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#147 | Sorozone | Posted 11/28/2011 6:57:39 PM | message detail
Though I think Goku/Vegeta would have gone quite far in this contest.
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#148 | charmander6000 | Posted 11/28/2011 7:06:36 PM | message detail
Match XLIII: (1) Phoenix Wright/Miles Edgeworth vs. (4) Alucard/Dracula

Previous Round

Phoenix Wright/Miles Edgeworth – 56.56%
Gordon Freeman/Dr. Breen – 43.44%

Alucard/Dracula – 63.23%
Commander Shepard/Saren Arterius – 36.77%

Analysis

Back to the ever exciting southwest division, some people feel that this match may be close, but most feel that it should be an easy win for the vampire duo, but with so few close matches this match could end up being among the closest so far.

Phoenix and Edgeworth did well together teaming up to put impressive numbers against Freeman who while almost fighting on his own was considered to be stronger than the lawyers. However the performance was not impressive enough to challenge Alucard and Dracula where I would expect Alucard to win by more against Freeman in a one on one match. Sure you could argue that this format is different, but Alucard had no problems beating an equally terrible rivalry in Shepard and Saren and I feel Shepard would have a decent chance against Freeman in a match.

This match will better showcase Dracula and the rivalry between him and Alucard. Dracula will obviously add more strength to the poll than Edgeworth and even though the lawyers probably have a stronger rivalry it won’t be enough to make up the gap. Right now I would say Alucard and Dracula are the favourites to win the division, but a slip up here or a good performance in the next match could turn this division upside down.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Gordon Freeman/Dr. Breen > Alucard/Dracula

charmander6000’s Prediction: Alucard/Dracula wins, 57.68% - 42.32%
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#149 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/28/2011 7:08:42 PM | message detail
So how long does Phoenix lead before Alucard takes the lead for good?
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#150 | charmander6000 | Posted 11/28/2011 7:12:23 PM | message detail
less than 2 minutes
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