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#1 | red sox 777 | Posted 11/27/2011 12:15:18 PM | message detail
No gimmicks. Link only. ZeldaFAQs.

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To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
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SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote. This is the best example of SFF we've ever seen. However take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make perfect sense.

Extrapolated Standings - The mathematical "strength" of a contestant that's determined based on their performance relative to the rest of the field. This number is typically based on the contest entrant's loss, but adjustments are sometimes made. See above for a watered down explanation for how the stats are calculated.
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2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud.
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#2 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/27/2011 12:17:05 PM | message detail
#3 | red sox 777 | Posted 11/27/2011 12:18:49 PM | message detail
Melee > Brawl forever.

P.S. No items, Fox only, Final Destination is actually really boring. No items is correct, but Fox only and FD only are stupid. And are not actually used by pretty much anyone.
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2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud.
Link 6, Cloud 2
#4 | Big Bob | Posted 11/27/2011 12:25:50 PM | message detail
It's called hyperbole.
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#5 | red sox 777 | Posted 11/27/2011 8:29:10 PM | message detail
It's over GameFAQs, Link has the high ground!
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2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud.
Link 6, Cloud 2
#6 | th3l3fty | Posted 11/27/2011 8:29:13 PM | message detail
if only this were Ammy vs. Waka

then it'd only be around 82% or so!
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#7 | red sox 777 | Posted 11/27/2011 8:30:08 PM | message detail
I kind of wonder how Link v. Tingle would be doing. Could Mario/Bowser beat them? I'm inclined to say yes.
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2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud.
Link 6, Cloud 2
#8 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/27/2011 8:31:14 PM | message detail
This match is going to have about 1500 more votes than the Trainers just a few days ago. Looks like we really need Link to bring in the votes.
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#9 | AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 11/27/2011 8:32:51 PM | message detail
#10 | vcharon | Posted 11/27/2011 8:59:14 PM | message detail
I'm really not wanting to see how badly FFIX gets thrashed here to open the poll up.
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#11 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/27/2011 9:01:18 PM | message detail
Vote Accepted

Zidane Tribal vs. Kuja 7.69% 1
Mega Man vs. Dr. Wily 92.31% 12
TOTAL VOTES 13

Aw yeah, first Zidane/Kuja vote
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#12 | tennisboy213 | Posted 11/27/2011 9:01:23 PM | message detail
Vote Accepted

Zidane Tribal vs. Kuja 21.05% 4
Mega Man vs. Dr. Wily 78.95% 15
TOTAL VOTES 19
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#13 | SHINE GET 64 | Posted 11/27/2011 9:01:25 PM | message detail
Zidane Tribal vs. Kuja 0%

0
Mega Man vs. Dr. Wily 100%

11
TOTAL VOTES 11
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#14 | charmander6000 | Posted 11/27/2011 9:01:48 PM | message detail
Zidane Tribal vs. Kuja 7.14% 1
Mega Man vs. Dr. Wily 92.86% 13
TOTAL VOTES 14

XD
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Rivalry Rumble: 45/50 Today: Mega Man/Dr. Wily
#15 | GrapefruitKing | Posted 11/27/2011 9:02:02 PM | message detail
underwhelming Mega Man performance coming up
just wait for it
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#16 | IngmarBirdman | Posted 11/27/2011 9:02:26 PM | message detail
I figure the board vote would be friendlier to Zidane. Considering the rest of GameFAQs is not.
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#17 | vcharon | Posted 11/27/2011 9:02:49 PM | message detail
IngmarBirdman posted...
I figure the board vote would be friendlier to Zidane. Considering the rest of GameFAQs is not.

The board vote is the most unfriendly time for any Final Fantasy character.
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#18 | charmander6000 | Posted 11/27/2011 9:04:08 PM | message detail
Mega Man is essentially all board vote so this isn't looking good.

Can't wait to see what the European Vote/UK Vote looks like later.
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Rivalry Rumble: 45/50 Today: Mega Man/Dr. Wily
#19 | vcharon | Posted 11/27/2011 9:04:19 PM | message detail
It's looking like underwhelming. That percentage is already heading south for MM.
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#20 | FateStayAlbion | Posted 11/27/2011 9:04:35 PM | message detail
Hopefully Zidane can keep it under a doubling here. He's holding up better in the board vote than I expected.
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#21 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 11/27/2011 9:06:17 PM | message detail
Score-Brackets-% Right
48------229--------100.00
47------148--------100.00
46------346--------100.00
45------253--------100.00
44------432--------100.00
43------635--------99.84
42------844--------99.88
41------1038------99.71
40------1167------99.31
39------1321------99.02
38------1215------98.85
37------1192------98.07
36------1129------97.96
35------961--------96.15
34------826--------96.73
33------748--------95.99
32------609--------93.76
31------518--------93.24
30------432--------91.90
29------369--------86.99
28------277--------87.73
27------198--------81.82
26------149--------78.52
25------123--------71.54
24------102--------71.57
23------58----------68.97
22------49----------61.22
21------39----------64.10
20------25----------44.00
19------12----------25.00
18------12----------58.33
17------6------------16.67
16------8------------37.50

14------4------------50.00

10------2------------50.00

6--------5------------20.00

1--------14----------7.14

Omitted scores got it wrong.

It's a Link match and naturally the prediction percentages heads skyward. Everyone in the top 1408 gets the match right. Only 2 in the Top 2887 get the match wrong. -18s (30 points) and better stay above 90.

No one fell off the Top 50.
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#22 | vcharon | Posted 11/27/2011 9:06:35 PM | message detail
Skyward.

I get it.
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#23 | SnoicFactor | Posted 11/27/2011 9:06:45 PM | message detail
Lol megaman gonna drop so hard over the night. i think 35 might be a given.
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#24 | vcharon | Posted 11/27/2011 9:07:43 PM | message detail
I'm sure Zidane will be thoroughly awful during the day so I'm still going to say MM keeps above a doubling even if he loses it over the night.
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#25 | CP724 | Posted 11/27/2011 9:07:48 PM | message detail
in before black turtle damage control
#26 | IngmarBirdman | Posted 11/27/2011 9:07:56 PM | message detail
If Mega Man only doubles Zidane, that basically puts Meat Boy equal to Banjo in the stats? Did not foresee that!
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#27 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/27/2011 9:09:02 PM | message detail
That was basically the reason why I thought Mega Man could put up about 70% here.
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#28 | charmander6000 | Posted 11/27/2011 9:10:35 PM | message detail | (edited)
Updated Top 10

Top 10 Biggest Blowouts
1. Mario/Bowser – 85.36% vs. Earthworm Jim/Queen SFAB – 14.64% - Round 1 – 70.72%
2. Link/Ganondorf – 85.30% vs. Arthas/Illidan – 14.70% - Round 1 – 70.60%
3. Link/Ganondorf – 83.69% vs. Amaterasu/Orochi – 16.31% - Round 2 – 67.38%
4. Dante/Vergil – 82.59% vs. Sol Badguy/Ky Kiske – 17.41% - Round 1 – 65.18%
5. Ryu/Ken – 81.63% vs. Ratchet/Dr. Nefarious – 18.37% - Round 1 – 63.26%
6. Samus Aran/Ridley – 80.64% vs. The Kid/The Guy – 19.36% - Round 1 – 61.28%
7. Mario/Bowser – 80.47% vs. Ike/Black Knight – 19.53% - Round 2 – 60.94%
8. Mega Man X/Zero – 80.45% vs. Captain Falcon/Black Shadow – 19.55% - Round 1 – 60.90%
9. Chris Redfield/Albert Wesker – 79.22% vs. Dan Hibiki/Sagat – 20.78% - Round 1 – 58.44%
10. Terra Branford/Kefka Palazzo – 78.66% vs. Vyse/Glacian – 21.34% - Round 1 – 57.32%

Top 10 Easiest Matches to Predict
1. Mario/Bowser vs. Earthworm Jim/Queen SFAB – Round 1 – 98.96%
2. Link/Ganondorf vs. Arthas/Illidan – Round 1 – 97.51%
3. Cloud Strife/Sephiroth vs. Lloyd Irving/Kratos Aurion – Round 1 – 96.54%
4. Samus Aran/Ridley vs. The Kid/The Guy – Round 1 – 96.25%
5. Link/Ganondorf vs. Amaterasu/Orochi – Round 2 – 95.70%
6. Mario/Bowser vs. Ike/Black Knight – Round 2 – 95.68%
7. Dante/Vergil vs. Sol Badguy/Ky Kiske – Round 1 – 95.29%
8. Sonic/Dr. Robotnik vs. Katherine/Catherine – Round 1 – 94.48%
9. Terra Branford/Kefka Palazzo vs. Vyse/Glacian – Round 1 – 92.22%
10. Kratos/Zeus vs. Professor Layton/Don Paolo – Round 1 – 92.13%
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Rivalry Rumble: 45/50 Today: Mega Man/Dr. Wily
#29 | vcharon | Posted 11/27/2011 9:09:37 PM | message detail
The only 70% MM will see from here on out is possibly next round when he's looking up at Link.
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#30 | JJH777 | Posted 11/27/2011 9:09:47 PM | message detail

From: IngmarBirdman | #026
If Mega Man only doubles Zidane, that basically puts Meat Boy equal to Banjo in the stats? Did not foresee that!


Zidane and Kuja looked like women.
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#31 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/27/2011 9:10:24 PM | message detail
South Division Upper Half

Link vs. Ganondorf – 50.00%
Amaterasu vs. Orochi – 16.31%
Arthas Menethil vs. Illidian – 14.70%
Tom Nook vs. Crazy Redd – 10.73%

South Division Lower Half

Mega Man vs. Dr. Wily – 50.00%
Zidane Tribal vs. Kuja – 31.21%
Banjo vs. Gruntilda – 22.52%
Meat Boy vs. Dr. Fetus – 22.09%
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#32 | vcharon | Posted 11/27/2011 9:10:58 PM | message detail | (edited)
According to that, what could Arthas put up on Luigi...!
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#33 | This_Contest | Posted 11/27/2011 9:15:10 PM | message detail
Zidane and Kuja looked like women.

Zidane did. Kuja looked like a red blob.
#34 | IngmarBirdman | Posted 11/27/2011 9:16:58 PM | message detail
Zidane and Kuja looked like women.

Yeah I need to get better at spotting things like that so I can modify my Oracle predictions beyond small tweaks to x-stat calculations.
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#35 | Azp2k32 | Posted 11/27/2011 9:18:10 PM | message detail
...whoops. I had Zidane over Mega Man in my battle entry for some reason. >_> At least I can't make stupid changes to my bracket that I might forget about.
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#36 | th3l3fty | Posted 11/27/2011 9:19:27 PM | message detail
1--------14----------7.14

...someone has a bracket with everything wrong except Link?
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#37 | charmander6000 | Posted 11/27/2011 9:19:42 PM | message detail
The results in the UK are essentially flipped right now.

They never get old.
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Rivalry Rumble: 45/50 Today: Mega Man/Dr. Wily
#38 | vcharon | Posted 11/27/2011 9:19:48 PM | message detail
Link; he's all that really matters.
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#39 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 11/27/2011 9:21:32 PM | message detail
...someone has a bracket with everything wrong except Link?

It's probably an incomplete bracket. They show up on the stats page as long as they choose a winner for the final match.
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#40 | creativename | Posted 11/27/2011 9:23:33 PM | message detail
Comic books are not read by everyone, heck even though the average age is in the low 20s comic books weren't even that popular back when they were kids. While characters like Batman can avoid this because he's universally known most characters are going to start off with a handicap because they need to hope people use their media type.

char, you know very well that these guys are not going to get their strength from people who read comic books. They will get their strength from general media and just overall badass character design and universal appeal. Comic books have little to do with anything, other than being the initial origin.

As for "hope people use their media type" - who *hasn't* seen an X-Men or especially a Star Wars or Batman movie? Not too many people that frequent GameFAQs, that's for sure. And the exposure to specific media is overrated - people vote for characters from games they have never ever played all the time, because of character appeal.

In the end character appeal is the dominant factor, and exposure is the second biggest factor. And trying to say the people of the demographic who frequent GameFAQs are not universally exposed to these characters would be crazy. Everyone knows who they are, no hyperbole needed.
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#41 | creativename | Posted 11/27/2011 9:26:00 PM | message detail
On a less interesting note, expectedish performance from Mega Man. He should drop overnight but gain some little back during the day.

Link could break 70% on him. Should be a doubling at least.
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#42 | th3l3fty | Posted 11/27/2011 9:27:42 PM | message detail
you seem to be vastly overestimating the exposure of the X-Men!
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#43 | LOLContests | Posted 11/27/2011 9:33:30 PM | message detail | (edited)
Absolutely not. Horrific idea. The entire point is fiction vs. VG characters - having split brackets would be incredibly silly. Worst possible thing you could do.

Since when? Up until the last year or so, a fictional character contest was always supposed to be 100% fictional characters.

Simpsons would flop if you think 10 characters are above the fodderline. Homer and Bart are the only ones that have a chance.

Edit: Fodderline on a fictional character contest. I'm working off of Base Batman (whatever that is) instead of Base Link.
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#44 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/27/2011 9:38:10 PM | message detail

From: LOLContests | #043
Since when? Up until the last year or so, a fictional character contest was always supposed to be 100% fictional characters.


No, we never wanted that.
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#45 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 11/27/2011 9:38:14 PM | message detail
Since when? Up until the last year or so, a fictional character contest was always supposed to be 100% fictional characters.

It was? I've never heard anyone in support of ditching video games characters and there's always strong opposition to separating video game from non-video game characters.
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#46 | BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/27/2011 9:39:58 PM | message detail
The hell? What would be the point of a contest with no VG characters on a VG site? The whole point of the idea was to get around the "must originate in a VG rule". The nominees would still have to have been in a VG of some sort.
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#47 | vcharon | Posted 11/27/2011 9:41:51 PM | message detail
That's fairly dumb. Why have a contest like that, to protect Batman from getting killed by Link or so people can fool themselves for one more year that anyone might could take Link down?
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#48 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/27/2011 9:47:36 PM | message detail
Yesterday's chart:

Time | Linkdorf | Amachi | Votes | Demographic
EBV | 79.03% | 20.97% | 558 | (0:00-0:05)
PHV | 82.42% | 17.58% | 4999 | (0:00-1:00)
FNV | 81.89% | 18.11% | 11722 | (1:00-6:00)
BSV | 80.41% | 19.59% | 5033 | (6:00-9:00)
DSV | 84.37% | 15.63% | 14634 | (9:00-14:30)
ASV | 85.45% | 14.55% | 16360 | (14:30-22:00)
SNV | 85.31% | 14.69% | 3288 | (22:00-24:00)

Link, he come to town to dominate day votes.
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#49 | red sox 777 | Posted 11/27/2011 9:52:26 PM | message detail
And the SNV too. He did better with that than with the heart of the weekend day vote. Maybe the median age has gone up enough that geography matters more than time for trends!
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#50 | LOLContests | Posted 11/27/2011 10:02:19 PM | message detail
The point is that there's more than 32 or so fictional characters that would be interesting to see.

Almost all mock fictional character brackets I've seen over the 5+ years this was discussed were all fictional. Play revisionist history, but I remember quite a few of the former but none (or very few) of the mixed variety. The discussion was always who would win that contest, with Link never even an option, since he wouldn't be in the bracket. Go back to 2004/2005 when this topic was first brought up if you don't believe me, but this was definitely the predominant strain for years. i still have a mock bracket that Leon made saved, and it was all fictional. They all were!
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