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#251 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/19/2011 9:27:36 PM | message detail

From: pjbasis | #248
I agree, but I think the series is stronger than any individual game, and rivalry factor should really help these guys out.

It's kinda like Kirby. The games themselves are rather short and even fans wouldn't consider them the best games ever or anything.


Kirby is a bad example if you want to use "series" strength because, uh...it's very weak as a series.

But the RE series was equal to SF and MM in the Series Contest. I don't think "Chris/Wesker being a series-long rivalry" matters too much here.
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#252 | Kijitow | Posted 11/19/2011 9:30:32 PM | message detail
hylianknight3 posted...
Kijitow posted...
red sox 777 posted...
I think this is the site losing half its voters having its effect. We lost a lot of the younger voters, and are left with a core of 90s gamers.

Good point, Kirby wasn't around in the 90s.

Yeah, and neither was Meta Knight!


I believe Metaknight's first appearance was Smash Brothers Brawl.
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#253 | TheCodeisBosco | Posted 11/19/2011 9:30:58 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
From: TheCodeisBosco | #244
I really hope the Trainers and Plumbers have a close match. If not, we might not have another potentially close one until ChellDOS/Frogus.
I'd be shocked if Red/Blue vs. Luigi/Waluigi was any closer than this match right here.


True. WaLuigi is gonna stomp, 70-30.

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#254 | red sox 777 | Posted 11/19/2011 9:31:40 PM | message detail
Hmm.....FFX > Smash anyone?
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#255 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/19/2011 9:32:04 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #254
Hmm.....FFX > Smash anyone?


Still maintain it would've happened in GOTD!
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#256 | AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 11/19/2011 9:33:40 PM | message detail

From: TheCodeisBosco | #253
LeonhartFour posted...
From: TheCodeisBosco | #244
I really hope the Trainers and Plumbers have a close match. If not, we might not have another potentially close one until ChellDOS/Frogus.
I'd be shocked if Red/Blue vs. Luigi/Waluigi was any closer than this match right here.


True. WaLuigi is gonna stomp, 70-30.

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No, he'll be dragged down by that character-less joke that is "Luigi".

Have you ever seen Luigi give a cockslap to the competition? I didn't think so!

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#257 | red sox 777 | Posted 11/19/2011 9:33:45 PM | message detail
Well, maybe FFX would have beaten that horrible travesty known as Brawl, but it would have lost to the great Super Smash Bros. Melee that isn't actually as good a game as FFX but looks so good when compared against Brawl that it makes you vote for it.
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#258 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/19/2011 9:34:41 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #257
but it would have lost to the great Super Smash Bros. Melee that isn't actually as good a game as FFX but looks so good when compared against Brawl that it makes you vote for it.


The FF series since FFX accomplishes this better for it than Brawl does for Melee!
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#259 | red sox 777 | Posted 11/19/2011 9:36:06 PM | message detail
The difference is that the FF games since FFX are not popular, so they're easily forgettable, whereas Brawl has been a constant, pervasive, presence on this site and in people's living rooms for the past 3 years.
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#260 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/19/2011 9:36:34 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #259
so they're easily forgettable


Not if you're an FF fan.

And a large chunk of this site is.
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#261 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/19/2011 9:38:28 PM | message detail
Yesterday's chart:

Time | Mowser| Iknight | Votes | Demographic
EBV | 81.26% | 18.74% | 651 | (0:00-0:05)
PHV | 79.70% | 20.30% | 4689 | (0:00-1:00)
FNV | 80.47% | 19.53% | 10225 | (1:00-6:00)
BSV | 80.98% | 19.02% | 5278 | (6:00-9:00)
DSV | 81.00% | 19.00% | 13745 | (9:00-14:30)
ASV | 80.09% | 19.91% | 13546 | (14:30-22:00)
SNV | 79.96% | 20.04% | 2695 | (22:00-24:00)

First 24-hour match being Nintendo vs. Nintendo and on a weekend makes for a pretty boring chart here. Oh well.
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#262 | red sox 777 | Posted 11/19/2011 9:39:13 PM | message detail
It's typical for bad games in a series to be forgettable. Chrono Cross is forgettable, Wind Waker is forgettable, even Twilight Princess is basically forgettable. The test is: do you think of Chrono Cross immediately when you think of Chrono Trigger? Do you think of TP immediately when you think of OOT? No.

Do you think of Brawl immediately when you think of Melee? Yes. Just about the first thing that comes to mind when you think of Melee is how much better it is than Brawl.
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#263 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/19/2011 9:40:29 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #262
It's typical for bad games in a series to be forgettable.


They don't become forgettable until the next good game in the series. You think about the FF series, it's a lot of "Man, there hasn't been a good FF game since FFX."
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#264 | Achromatic | Posted 11/19/2011 9:41:34 PM | message detail
FF13 is literally a top 3 FF but no one likes to say that!
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#265 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/19/2011 9:42:28 PM | message detail

From: Achromatic | #264
FF13 is literally a top 3 FF but no one likes to say that!


Well, I'm a huge fan of FFXIII as well.

I'm just talking from a general fanbase perspective. FFXII and FFXIII were pretty divisive among the fanbase.
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#266 | hylianknight3 | Posted 11/19/2011 9:43:53 PM | message detail
pjbasis posted...
It's kinda like Kirby. The games themselves are rather short and even fans wouldn't consider them the best games ever or anything.

Kirby Super Star certainly is.
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#267 | Sorozone | Posted 11/19/2011 9:45:14 PM | message detail
FFXIII is my favorite FF!, but I haven't played all of them yet.
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#268 | creativename | Posted 11/19/2011 9:59:14 PM | message detail

From: MegatokyoEd | #1203
Wow this is a surprising result. Hopefully Sonic manages to look better against Mario this time than the debacle in the game contest.


Doubtful. Mario would easily beat up Sonic, and Bowser would stomp Robotnik. Plus Mario/Bowser is older and the more classic rivalry. I see Mario/Bowser vs. Sonic Team as a blowout. Could be 60/40.

From: LeonhartFour | #1255
Still maintain it would've happened in GOTD!


Yeah honestly I think FFX would have barely edged that out in the finals. The site seemed pretty intent on not letting Brawl win, plus FFX was arguably the "purely" strongest game in the bracket (sans MM bandwagoning). Could be argued either way though.

Hell I still think FFX could have beaten Smash ages ago if not for the Meg Ryan vs. All of Nintendo pic. God that pic.
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#269 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/19/2011 9:59:59 PM | message detail
60/40 would be pretty tame. I'd be thrilled if that match only went 60/40, personally.
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#270 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 11/19/2011 10:03:52 PM | message detail
I expect Mario/Bowser vs. Sonic/Robotnik to be close to a doubling, if not outright. Mario/Bowser have the radness of Mario RPG, which I think along with icon SFF will let Mario beat Sonic down worse than he does to the Samuses and Mega Mans.
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#271 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/19/2011 10:03:57 PM | message detail
Speaking of, a nice 60/40 even split to end the hour.

For the record, if Jill/Nemesis and Leon/Ada are equal, MK Ninjas beat Sonic/Robotnik with 59.69%. The more Jill/Nemesis wins by, the closer those two would be.
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#272 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/19/2011 10:08:32 PM | message detail
Oh hey, next round is freeform pics, right?

Be sure to make Mario vs. Sonic look as awesome as possible and barely include Bowser or Robotnik at all! Make it like that one FFVII/OoT/FFX/LTTP pic someone made!

And then we need to petition Bacon to make Mario vs. Sonic against Link vs. Ganon in a bonus match.
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#273 | pjbasis | Posted 11/19/2011 10:11:00 PM | message detail
Fully expecting Mario to lay down that hammer on Sonic.
#274 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 11/19/2011 10:11:24 PM | message detail
On one hand, MK Ninjas being that damn strong seems really really off.

On the other hand, MK Ninjas being that damn strong is the best contest result ever.

So I'll choose to believe Leon/Ada > Jill/Nemesis.
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#275 | red sox 777 | Posted 11/19/2011 10:11:38 PM | message detail
You keep presuming that Link vs. Ganon is going to win this contest!

I agree that 60/40 would be pretty tame for next round. Sonic can probably avoid the 60/40 against Mario directly, possibly with significant room to spare this year, judging by today's match and if the idea that we've lost most of our younger voters is right. But Bowser outclasses Robotnik, so I'd expect Team Mario to break 60% without a problem.
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#276 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/19/2011 10:15:35 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #275
You keep presuming that Link vs. Ganon is going to win this contest!


If I had a reason to think otherwise, I wouldn't!
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#277 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/19/2011 10:19:56 PM | message detail
I'd take the MK ninjas over Sonic/Robotnik pretty easily. Didn't they outdraw every other day match? It wasn't as significant as when the Trainers outdrew every other night match, but you can still tell that Subz/Scorp were something special. There was an awesome buzz around here when they stepped up and wrecked everyone's ****.
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#278 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/19/2011 10:20:42 PM | message detail
red sox 777 | Posted 11/20/2011 1:11:38 AM | message detail | quote
I agree that 60/40 would be pretty tame for next round. Sonic can probably avoid the 60/40 against Mario directly, possibly with significant room to spare this year, judging by today's match and if the idea that we've lost most of our younger voters is right. But Bowser outclasses Robotnik, so I'd expect Team Mario to break 60% without a problem.


Mario already put up 58.38% on Mega Man, and Sonic is slightly below him, so Mario could probably put up 60% on Sonic directly. But factoring in the rivalry and Bowser being way above Robotnik, and this match could get up to nearly 65%.
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#279 | red sox 777 | Posted 11/19/2011 10:22:52 PM | message detail
Mario SFF'd Megaman. That might not happen with Sonic.
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#280 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/19/2011 10:26:35 PM | message detail
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/20/2011 1:19:56 AM | message detail | quote
I'd take the MK ninjas over Sonic/Robotnik pretty easily. Didn't they outdraw every other day match? It wasn't as significant as when the Trainers outdrew every other night match, but you can still tell that Subz/Scorp were something special. There was an awesome buzz around here when they stepped up and wrecked everyone's ****.


The MK ninjas did outdo every other day match in votes. The Bosses were second highest for day matches, only about 900 votes behind the MK ninjas.

If the MK ninjas match was adjusted for a night match instead, it would get about 31942 votes in a night match. And the Trainers pulled in 34363 votes.
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#281 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/19/2011 10:36:48 PM | message detail
Wow, so we're in for eight consecutive days of autopilot (not even counting today) wherein the most interesting thing will be gauging Samus's win against Terra. On the one hand, you never wanna see that as a contest fan. On the other hand, if we are gonna get hit with it, Thanksgiving/Black Friday/Zelda week is the best time. I guess.
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#282 | pjbasis | Posted 11/19/2011 10:43:30 PM | message detail
The meltdown on this board when everyone's favorite bosses lose.

I cannot wait.
#283 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/19/2011 10:43:55 PM | message detail

From: pjbasis | #282
The meltdown on this board when everyone's favorite bosses lose.

I cannot wait.


You'll have to wait until the quarterfinals, unfortunately.
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#284 | foxhead84 | Posted 11/19/2011 10:46:21 PM | message detail
Achromatic posted...
FF13 is literally a top 3 FF but no one likes to say that!

agree... maybe top 5 (X,IX,VI,XIII,VII)
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#285 | XIII_rocks | Posted 11/19/2011 10:46:37 PM | message detail

From: pjbasis | #282
The meltdown on this board when everyone's favorite bosses lose.

I cannot wait.


From: LeonhartFour | #283
You'll have to wait until the quarterfinals, unfortunately.




And they'll be losing to Pokemon, which is possibly even more beloved than MGS otb.
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#286 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/19/2011 10:46:50 PM | message detail

From: XIII_rocks | #285
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And they'll be losing to Pokemon, which is possibly even more beloved than MGS otb.


LOL Trainers
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#287 | pjbasis | Posted 11/19/2011 10:52:19 PM | message detail

From: foxhead84 | #284
agree... maybe top 5 (X,IX,VI,XIII,VII)


It's like you're listing all the worst games intentionally.
#288 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/19/2011 10:52:57 PM | message detail
Well, if he just replaced VI with VIII, he'd nail the top 5.

Not in the right order, necessarily, but good enough.
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#289 | pjbasis | Posted 11/19/2011 10:57:00 PM | message detail
It would be the biggest improvement no doubt, but still a work in progress.
#290 | foxhead84 | Posted 11/19/2011 11:00:42 PM | message detail
well it's just a personal favorite without much thinking... But I'm not switching VIII for VI and I'm keeping VII at the 5th position...
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#291 | creativename | Posted 11/19/2011 11:28:02 PM | message detail
Think the debate for FF GOAT has to center on FF7, FF6 and FFX IMO.

Personally I have it FF7, then FFX and FFVI just a slight bit below, then FFIV just a slight bit below them.
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#292 | pjbasis | Posted 11/19/2011 11:32:05 PM | message detail
Nah.

Bias aside, the most influential and important FF games are I, IV, VII, and X.
It's not a coincidence they coincide with the start of a new generation.

Too bad about XIII though.
#293 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/19/2011 11:35:36 PM | message detail
FFX is an excellent game, but I'm not sure how influential or "important" it was. It certainly didn't influence Square to take the series in acclaimed directions afterward.
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#294 | pjbasis | Posted 11/19/2011 11:40:10 PM | message detail
Fully voiced, and real 3D graphics as opposed to pre-rendered or isometric views that even future RPGs wouldn't deviate from.

It influenced all games in general, maybe only preceded by MGS1 in terms of movie-like direction.
It definitely influenced Square games in this regard too.

It's a shame most non-Square JRPGs actually didn't follow this precedent.
#295 | Lord Bob Bree | Posted 11/19/2011 11:41:21 PM | message detail

From: pjbasis | #292
Bias aside, the most influential and important FF games are I, IV, VII, and X.


III or V, too.
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#296 | pjbasis | Posted 11/19/2011 11:45:30 PM | message detail
Well if it's between III and V, I'd definitely give it to III, as V is just a better version.

And even III is just a better I.

It's between that and XI for fifth place though.
#297 | transience | Posted 11/20/2011 2:24:05 AM | message detail
wow, I feel dumb.

perfect bracket lives on, at least!
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#298 | The_Djoker | Posted 11/20/2011 2:39:42 AM | message detail
Square to take the series in acclaimed directions afterward.


You mean they should have had boring turn based system with random battles for future ff games??

Ffx is popular because of the story. The gameplay sucked. Xii and 13 had better gameplay but 12 had a crap story and 13 had crap characters and was linear as hell.
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#299 | Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 11/20/2011 4:16:04 AM | message detail
Man this match was really debatable?And Kirby doing worse than what he did 1vs1?Either rivalries really matter or Sonic Generations gave a major boost to Sonic.
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#300 | Achromatic | Posted 11/20/2011 4:21:31 AM | message detail

From: transience | #297
wow, I feel dumb.

perfect bracket lives on, at least!


Please tell me you had a perfect battle bracket?

Also Sonic is skull****ing Kirby here.
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