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#151 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/17/2011 11:02:01 PM | message detail
Although I suppose I'm jumping the gun a bit in assuming nothing happens in Sora/Riku vs. BJ/Hitler.

But if Hitler wins a match, then this contest becomes even worse, so nothing good can come of this!
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#152 | The Real Truth | Posted 11/17/2011 11:05:55 PM | message detail | (edited)
pjbasis posted...
What's bad about the contest exactly?

I'm pretty surprised at how bad my oracle is.


I think it's the most predictable contest we've had. Like, if I look at the possible chances of an upset coming up, there really aren't many.

Round 2-

Sonic/Kirby
Dante/Sora

Round 3-

Sub-Zero/X and Scorp?
Trainers/Ryu/Ken
Alucard and Drac/Frog
FF7/Snakes

Really, there are probably 3 wild cards in the entire bracket:

Trainers, Ryu/Ken and the Ninjas.
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#153 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 11/17/2011 11:05:58 PM | message detail
What's been bad about this contest is that this is Villains-contest levels of boring matches, except without a comedy CATS 2000 votes or a GODDAMN HAND to help out. And if say, Samus/Bosses/Hadoken/Trainers plays out like how Snake/Crono did where the stronger halves simply overwhelm the voting with any possible RIVALRY FACTOR mattering for only 2 or so % at most (or in Samus vs. any of those three's case, even if it's as much as 8-10%), that quarter becomes boring as hell too. Take out that quarter of the bracket and the potentially interesting matches drops down to uhh...maybe X/Zero vs. Ninjas, Sora/Dante, am I missing any?
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#154 | pjbasis | Posted 11/17/2011 11:07:26 PM | message detail
I wouldn't consider it nothing.

I mean no upsets have happened but like ngamer said on the Show, percentages are pretty wild.

I'm holding out for some nice mixups later on.
#155 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 11/17/2011 11:07:55 PM | message detail
Contests that I think would be good:

Link removed from a character battle with a bracket set so that near-elites aren't wasted against the Big 6 (Mario/Samus/Cloud/Seph/Snake/Mega Man)
Link in a character battle with 10-20 non-VG originating characters sprinkled through the bracket (Batman, Gandalf, etc.)
1v1 games contest, no era division, possibly with OoT/FFVII removed
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#156 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 11/17/2011 11:08:23 PM | message detail | (edited)
Link vs. Cloud/Seph, but yeah. Contest sucks and it sucks a lot.
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#157 | The Real Truth | Posted 11/17/2011 11:08:20 PM | message detail
And yeah, it's not even the matches being predictable, it's that almost every single match has been a blowout. I think a lot of it has to do with how few votes the matches have been getting, resulting in lots of bracket votes.
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#158 | pjbasis | Posted 11/17/2011 11:08:45 PM | message detail
Hey, I could be wrong, but my first round bracket is pretty damn cookie cutter too, but I have some nice upsets planned later.
#159 | greatone10 | Posted 11/17/2011 11:09:33 PM | message detail
At least we are likely to finally get Mario vs. Sonic in a character battle.
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#160 | The Real Truth | Posted 11/17/2011 11:10:11 PM | message detail
greatone10 posted...
At least we are likely to finally get Mario vs. Sonic in a character battle.

Would have been much better if Mario and Sonic were on the same team. That would have made the contest way more interesting.
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#161 | th3l3fty | Posted 11/17/2011 11:10:16 PM | message detail
1v1 games contest, no era division, possibly with OoT/FFVII removed

yes please
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#162 | -Tofa7- | Posted 11/17/2011 11:11:16 PM | message detail
It's really hard to defend this contest, especially when you compare it to how awesome GoTD was and how many close matches that had. GoTD's first round was amazing, and it's later rounds were unpredictable all the way to the end.

From the moment this format was announced, and then when the bracket was released, you could tell it was going to be a bummer. A simple traditional Character Battle (with Link removed) would have been so much better :(
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#163 | The Real Truth | Posted 11/17/2011 11:11:17 PM | message detail
New games contest would be great. Actually, making games contests the norm. would be much more appealing I think.
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#164 | pjbasis | Posted 11/17/2011 11:19:25 PM | message detail

From: The Real Truth | #163
New games contest would be great. Actually, making games contests the norm. would be much more appealing I think.


This I can get behind.
#165 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/17/2011 11:21:49 PM | message detail
The Real Truth | Posted 11/18/2011 2:08:20 AM | message detail | quote
And yeah, it's not even the matches being predictable, it's that almost every single match has been a blowout. I think a lot of it has to do with how few votes the matches have been getting, resulting in lots of bracket votes.


You can also blame the huge number of blowouts over the sheer amount of weak **** in the bracket.
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#166 | cbaron0 | Posted 11/17/2011 11:37:30 PM | message detail
I personally oppose the idea of having all fictional characters, because I get the feeling that non-gaming characters will eventually outnumber the gaming characters and this will eventually turn more into an IMDB Contest than a GameFAQs Contest. By judging a lot of the characters that have little with video games (I mean would you vote for Superman based on his appearance in Superman 64 or his movies/comics?), I feel it would be strange for GAMEFAQs to be hosting such a thing.

Contest ideas that I DO want:

1. Best. Game. Ever. with only Ocarina of Time removed and eras mixed. I know FFVII is ahead of the pack, but I think it's fitting to know how exactly how much ahead it really is, since I think Square has been dropping for a while now. After MM winning last year and Pokemon RBY killing MM in the 2009 contest, I especially want to see RBY vs FFVII. Another match that I want to see is MM vs ALttP, since ALttP has been aging and MM seems to be getting popular every year.

2. Best. Western. Game. Ever. We know that Japanese games dominate on this site, so I think this can have quite a lot of potential. We have no idea what the strongest western game (possibly Fallout 3?) on the site is, so it's a good chance to find out.

3. Best. Console. Ever. There aren't that many consoles to have a large tournament, but it should still be different nonetheless.

4. Best. Partners. Ever./Best. Team. Ever. or something with Link removed. Basically any weird spinoff of the traditional Best. Character. Ever. that adds some uncertainty. The Rivalry Rumble (at least I thought) was a great idea and had a ton of potential. It just had a terrible bracket, which allows for almost no debatable matches and end up so sucky.
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#167 | The Real Truth | Posted 11/17/2011 11:41:10 PM | message detail
How about we just avoid numbers 3 and 4?
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#168 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 11/17/2011 11:44:14 PM | message detail
#3 would be an ok idea, but 16 might be a bit too few and 32 would be way too many. It's not good for an interesting tournament.
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#169 | cbaron0 | Posted 11/17/2011 11:45:26 PM | message detail
The Real Truth posted...
How about we just avoid numbers 3 and 4?

I just want number 1 for the next contest.

2-4 were just thrown in there to avoid as much as possible Character Battle 9 or whatever number we'll approaching now.
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#170 | Pizzaknight | Posted 11/17/2011 11:49:38 PM | message detail
Character of the Decade anyone? I mentioned it before, but I got no response.
#171 | junk_funk | Posted 11/17/2011 11:52:58 PM | message detail
I like the Best Western Game. That would be nice. But I guess we would have to have a Best Eastern Game at some point too to be fair to our international voters.

I like the idea of a 2 loss and your out tourney, but don't know if it's practical.
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#172 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 11/17/2011 11:54:12 PM | message detail
A Double Elimination contest would be basically impossible to make a bracket contest for.
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#173 | junk_funk | Posted 11/17/2011 11:55:38 PM | message detail
Pizzaknight posted...
Character of the Decade anyone? I mentioned it before, but I got no response.

This would be just like a regular character contest. All of the noble nine still qualify. The only characters that wouldn't qualify would be like Spyro or Crash (I think).
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#174 | Greyfeld | Posted 11/17/2011 11:55:50 PM | message detail
What about a "best developer" contest?
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#175 | Greyfeld | Posted 11/17/2011 11:56:32 PM | message detail
junk_funk posted...
Pizzaknight posted...
Character of the Decade anyone? I mentioned it before, but I got no response.

This would be just like a regular character contest. All of the noble nine still qualify. The only characters that wouldn't qualify would be like Spyro or Crash (I think).


I think he's talking about limiting it to only characters that were created in the last decade.
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#176 | junk_funk | Posted 11/17/2011 11:57:32 PM | message detail
Greyfeld posted...
What about a "best developer" contest?

Nintendo wins. Hard to get interest for this one imo.
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#177 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 11/17/2011 11:57:49 PM | message detail
Best Developer would be more dominated by Nintendo and Square than a Games Contest with OoT and FFVII.
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#178 | cbaron0 | Posted 11/17/2011 11:58:16 PM | message detail
Greyfeld posted...
What about a "best developer" contest?

I thought of that before, but Nintendo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone else
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#179 | Greyfeld | Posted 11/17/2011 11:59:39 PM | message detail
WarThaNemesis2 posted...
Best Developer would be more dominated by Nintendo and Square than a Games Contest with OoT and FFVII.

It would be more interesting than seeing Link win for the umpteenth time. And I think there would be a lot of surprises, considering a lot of the matchups would be difficult to predict.
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#180 | junk_funk | Posted 11/18/2011 12:03:29 AM | message detail | (edited)
Characters created this decade? That could be decent.

Here's a link of good characters that might be in a tourney like this.

http://www.gamesradar.com/the-25-best-new-characters-of-the-decade/?page=1

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#181 | Greyfeld | Posted 11/18/2011 12:03:21 AM | message detail | (edited)
junk_funk posted...
Characters created this decade? That could be decent.

Here's a link of good characters that might be in a tourney like this.


It would basically be a character battle, sans the Noble Nine.

Not that it matters, but I suggested the "character of the decade" thing last year, and people told me it was a terrible idea. Go figure.
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#182 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 11/18/2011 12:03:57 AM | message detail
Greyfeld posted...
junk_funk posted...
Characters created this decade? That could be decent.

Here's a link of good characters that might be in a tourney like this.

It would basically be a character battle, sans the Noble Nine.

Not that it matters, but I suggested this last year, and people told me it was a terrible idea. Go figure.


The 'elite' competition would be uhh...Auron, Sora, and Dante? I can't think of another upper midcarder or higher who debuted post-2000.
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#183 | junk_funk | Posted 11/18/2011 12:05:03 AM | message detail
Ya I like the Western Games Contest idea better.
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#184 | redrocket | Posted 11/18/2011 12:06:25 AM | message detail
All characters appearing in a game is clearly the best idea that hasn't been done yet and should have priority over everything else.
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#185 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 11/18/2011 12:07:45 AM | message detail
#3 would be an ok idea, but 16 might be a bit too few and 32 would be way too many. It's not good for an interesting tournament.

If you include Handhelds I think we're getting to having 25 or so good entries. Having a few fodder entries won't be too bad.

Character of the Decade anyone? I mentioned it before, but I got no response.

Sora vs Kratos finals? Auron and Dante will be too old in a few months.

Nintendo wins. Hard to get interest for this one imo.

A format without Nintendo or Square dominance is asking for too much. The top entries in just about any format will be Nintendo and Square. If you do create a format where they aren't, is it really one voters will be interested in since the voters love Nintendo and Square?
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#186 | Greyfeld | Posted 11/18/2011 12:10:23 AM | message detail
WarThaNemesis2 posted...
Greyfeld posted...
junk_funk posted...
Characters created this decade? That could be decent.

Here's a link of good characters that might be in a tourney like this.

It would basically be a character battle, sans the Noble Nine.

Not that it matters, but I suggested this last year, and people told me it was a terrible idea. Go figure.

The 'elite' competition would be uhh...Auron, Sora, and Dante? I can't think of another upper midcarder or higher who debuted post-2000.


Auron, Kratos, Sora, Dante... whoever is in the Resident Evil games...

*Shrugs* You either have to run a non-elite contest, or watch the noble nine rip through the competition if you're going to run a character battle.
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#187 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 11/18/2011 12:12:57 AM | message detail | (edited)
All the Resident Evil characters worth a damn debuted pre-2000.

Edit: Although it'd be funny to see a random GSC Pokemon or Midna get a massive 'MUST HELP NINTENDO' boost.
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#188 | junk_funk | Posted 11/18/2011 12:15:32 AM | message detail | (edited)
redrocket posted...
All characters appearing in a game is clearly the best idea that hasn't been done yet and should have priority over everything else.

This would be ridiculous. Simpsons, Star Wars, Disney, Madden, other sports stars, Marvel/DC, random movies, Historical figures, random cartoons...what a mess. Bad idea imo.
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#189 | junk_funk | Posted 11/18/2011 12:14:52 AM | message detail
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#190 | cbaron0 | Posted 11/18/2011 12:40:27 AM | message detail | (edited)
WarThaNemesis2 posted...
All the Resident Evil characters worth a damn debuted pre-2000.

Edit: Although it'd be funny to see a random GSC Pokemon or Midna get a massive 'MUST HELP NINTENDO' boost.


I wouldn't be surprised at all.

Didn't Link being retired from the 2006 competition allow Zelda to score 45% on Samus or something? I'd lol if Midna suddenly takes down Dante just from being one of the only Nintendo characters around.
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#191 | Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 11/18/2011 2:18:33 AM | message detail
What about best new character that debuted from 2000 and later?That would be awesome.
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#192 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 11/18/2011 2:30:46 AM | message detail | (edited)
Limiting characters to post-2000 only could see votals that make Pac-Man/Crash look like a popular match!

I think a 32 entry Console contest could be a lot of fun. It'd be a brief contest that would generate a fair degree of interest. I wouldn't want to see it ran till after the next "main" contest though - otherwise we'll be approaching two years without an ordinary character battle. I'd run it at the end of this gen.
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#193 | AppreciateTrees | Posted 11/18/2011 2:57:09 AM | message detail
32 entry Console contest

SNES vs PlayStation final! And I would love to see Dreamcast get a winnable match :D
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#194 | Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 11/18/2011 4:49:57 AM | message detail
Since you don't like my idea I agree with the above poster's idea of strongest western game.I mean Japanese games dominate in these contests so that would be cool to see.1 on 1 of course.
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#195 | thok3 | Posted 11/18/2011 4:54:50 AM | message detail
Best generic enemy contest? It would probably lead to a Goomba-Koopa final, but it would still be interesting.
#196 | ejm5446 | Posted 11/18/2011 5:16:27 AM | message detail
How about characters by the decade they were introduced? You could have four divisions:

80s (and earlier)
90s
00s
10s

That way most of the best characters would face each other in the first two brackets, leaving a lot of uncertainty in the final two. Especially the more recent one, since it force people to nominate a bunch of newcomers.
#197 | The_Djoker | Posted 11/18/2011 5:32:11 AM | message detail
I'd love to see a mini System contest. Any contest in which i can watch Wii getting Humuliated by the Game Gear would be hilarious. It will shut up all the nintendo fanboys who think wii would win a populairty poll for best nintendo console.


I'd argue that Wii would come last out of the main Nintendo consoles. It's not beating NES,SNES,N64 and GC would be close but honestly...i'd take GC over Wii.
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#198 | Xcarvenger | Posted 11/18/2011 5:36:17 AM | message detail
No, it won't be even remotely close. GC is beloved 'round this part.
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#199 | JaKyL25 | Posted 11/18/2011 6:27:32 AM | message detail | (edited)
I also support Best Gaming Platform Ever as the best idea that hasn't been done yet.

5 Nintendo consoles
5 Nintendo handhelds
5 Playstation entries (by this time next year at least)
2 Xboxes
7 Sega entries (counting add-ons)

That's 24 right there. It would be easy enough to toss on 8 more (PC, Atari 2600, TurboGrafx-16, iPhone, N-Gage, Lynx, 3DO, Jaguar, NeoGeo, Intellivision, Odyssey, Commodore 64, CD-i, take your pick)
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#200 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/18/2011 6:24:33 AM | message detail
The updater site was down for about 15 minutes earlier, so it was unable to catch the 9:00 AM, 9:05 AM, and 9:10 AM updates. So that means Leon would have to use the 8:55 AM update for his trend chart. I was unable to track the 9:00 AM and 9:05 AM updates. But here are the vote totals for the 9:10 AM update:

15057 - Dante vs. Vergil
3219 - Sol Badguy vs. Ky Kiske
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