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#101 | swordz9 | Posted 11/17/2011 9:09:43 PM | message detail
I wish Dante and Sora got better opponents so it'd be easier to judge their strength this time around.
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#102 | creativename | Posted 11/17/2011 9:10:11 PM | message detail
For round two, Chrono Trigger/Portal is pretty debatable and Dante/Sora seems like a toss-up. Nothing else seems remotely questionable though.

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I don't think you need someone from board 8 to make a fictional character battle bracket. SBAllen could randomize it and it would still be good.

A randomized bracket would stink compared to the potential. I mean it would be better than this contest of course, but potentially seeing Batman vs. Vader and Link vs. Cloud in round one is just dumb. Randomized is just not a good idea and would waste potential.
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#103 | vcharon | Posted 11/17/2011 9:10:33 PM | message detail
Gonna be hard to judge Sora when he loses to Hitler... calling it now :|
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#104 | Lightning Strikes | Posted 11/17/2011 9:10:46 PM | message detail
Dante/Vergil looking pretty disappointing. Yes, disappointing with 80%. It can happen. I mean, their opponents may well even be worse than Vyse/Galcian, who put up a similar performance against Kefka/Terra.

Feeling pretty good about Sora/Riku, but that depends on what happens in the next match. We could even see a /v/-fueled upset, though I do doubt it.
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#105 | BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/17/2011 9:11:27 PM | message detail
I was actually surprised how many people had Ramza in the Guru. There was no real reason to take this upset, everything we've seen in the past has indicated Nightmare > Ramza, and there's no doubt in my mind that Siegfried > Delita. We'll probably lose a few more perfects on the Sora/Hitler match too.

Actually, looking through the Guru, it seems that pretty much everyone still alive aside from Yesmar took some really weird round 3 + upsets. If the rest of the bracket is cookie, I might still end up looking good in the final rankings.
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#106 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/17/2011 9:11:30 PM | message detail
Actually, that'll be pretty easy to judge.

Still can't imagine Hitler getting 50% of the votes though. Can't wrap my mind around it.

Even if I see it tomorrow, I still probably won't be able to believe it.
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#107 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 11/17/2011 9:11:32 PM | message detail
Score-Brackets-% Right
29------488--------93.85
28------407--------71.01
27------832--------62.50
26------1483------64.60
25------2080------66.01
24------2244------66.98
23------2122------66.35
22------1890------69.21
21------1469------69.71
20------1017------71.29
19------622--------72.19
18------395--------68.35
17------197--------68.53
16------98----------68.37
15------76----------67.11
14------23----------52.17
13------20----------55.00
12------8------------50.00
11------2------------50.00
10------5------------40.00
9--------9------------33.33
8--------3------------0.00
7--------3------------33.33
6--------5------------40.00
5--------5------------80.00
4--------5------------0.00
3--------5------------0.00
2--------8------------0.00
1--------16----------6.25
0--------15----------6.67

The perfects just continue to do way better than everyone else. The perfects do over 22 percentage points better than the -1s and the -1s did much better than the tiers below them as well. It's really going to be interesting to see what happens at the first upset we get.

8 people fell off the Top 50 and they are all from the Top 25. Former first place KimPilgrim, former second place Mac_Arrowny, Fides_Invictus, MajinLou, waldram, Janus5000, KanzarisKelshen and Whiskey_Nick did not have Siegfried vs. Nightmare winning.
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#108 | Xuxon | Posted 11/17/2011 9:12:04 PM | message detail

From: creativename | #102
For round two, Chrono Trigger/Portal is pretty debatable and Dante/Sora seems like a toss-up. Nothing else seems remotely questionable though.


Kirby/Sonic isn't? Really?
#109 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 11/17/2011 9:12:16 PM | message detail
Samus barely got 80% on The Kid. I don't know how this is disappointing.
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#110 | pjbasis | Posted 11/17/2011 9:12:23 PM | message detail
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#111 | jacko_vdz | Posted 11/17/2011 9:12:35 PM | message detail
Are any of those perfect brackets on the leaderboard alts? Because there are a heap of Link/Ganon entries with similar names, all in a row :/
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#112 | BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/17/2011 9:13:11 PM | message detail
Just noticed we have 15 0 brackets left. Trying to remember, have we ever had a successful 0 bracket?
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#113 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/17/2011 9:13:20 PM | message detail

From: Lightning Strikes | #104
Dante/Vergil looking pretty disappointing. Yes, disappointing with 80%. It can happen.


It can.

But this isn't one of those times. Not sure what you were expecting here, but 80% is very difficult to get, especially for a team that contains no Noble Niners, one of whom is hovering around the fodder line.

This isn't like Link/Ganondorf barely getting 80% here.
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#114 | BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/17/2011 9:14:16 PM | message detail

From: Xuxon | #108
Kirby/Sonic isn't? Really?


Not really. Anyone taking those 4-way matches at face value are smoking something, plus Sonic just had his first well-recieved game in over a decade last week.
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#115 | greatone10 | Posted 11/17/2011 9:14:28 PM | message detail

From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #112
Just noticed we have 15 0 brackets left. Trying to remember, have we ever had a successful 0 bracket?


I seem to remember a contest where he had one. 2006 I think?
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#116 | vcharon | Posted 11/17/2011 9:14:55 PM | message detail
This is an impressive result, all things considered. Blowouts any larger than this are extremely uncommon in modern times.
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#117 | BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/17/2011 9:15:01 PM | message detail
Thought we lost all the 0 brackets on Sub-Zero/Chief that year?
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#118 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/17/2011 9:15:11 PM | message detail

From: Xuxon | #108
Kirby/Sonic isn't? Really?


Remind me why it should be.

Haven't seen anything that tells me that match should be debated.
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#119 | YoAriel33 | Posted 11/17/2011 9:15:21 PM | message detail

From: Xuxon | #108
Kirby/Sonic isn't? Really?


No

NO

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

(I'm sorry, but we just did this last year)
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#120 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/17/2011 9:15:28 PM | message detail

From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #117
Thought we lost all the 0 brackets on Sub-Zero/Chief that year?


Series Contest, not Character Battle.
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#121 | charmander6000 | Posted 11/17/2011 9:20:14 PM | message detail | (edited)
Updated Top 5

Top 5 Closest Matches
1. Luigi/Waluigi – 55.28% vs. Cecil Harvey/Golbez – 44.72% - Round 1 – 10.56%
2. Siegfried/Nightmare – 55.68% vs. Ramza Beoulve/Delita Hyral – 44.32% - Round 1 – 11.36%
3. Frog/Magus – 56.13% vs. Raiden/Vamp – 43.87% - Round 1 – 12.26%
4. Phoenix Wright/Miles Edgeworth – 56.56% vs. Gordon Freeman/Dr. Breen – 43.44% - Round 1 – 13.12%
5. Kirby/Meta Knight – 58.47% vs. Jill Valentine/Nemesis – 41.53% - Round 1 – 16.94%

Top 5 Smallest Day Vote Gaps
1. Siegfried/Nightmare – 16797 vs. Ramza Beoulve/Delita Hyral – 13368 – Round 1 - 3429
2. Luigi/Waluigi – 21861 vs. Cecil Harvey/Golbez – 17685 – Round 1 – 4176
3. Frog/Magus – 19662 vs. Raiden/Vamp – 15368 – Round 1- 4294
4. Solid Snake/Liquid Snake – 22190 vs. Crono/Lavos – 15565 – Round 1 - 6625
5. Ike/Black Knight – 22959 vs. Conker/Great Mighty Poo – 15677 – Round 1 – 7282

Top 5 Least Popular Night Polls
1. Pac-Man/Blinky vs. Crash Bandicoot/Dr. Neo Cortex – Round 1 - 23857
2. Zidane Tribal/Kuja vs. Meat Boy/Dr. Fetus – Round 1 – 24721
3. Squall Leonhart/Seifer Almasy vs. Laharl/Mid-Boss – Round 1 - 25924
4. Phoenix Wright/Miles Edgeworth vs. Gordon Freeman/Dr. Breen – Round 1 - 26717
5. Chris Redfield/Albert Wesker vs. Dan Hibiki/Sagat – Round 1 – 27276

Top 5 Least Popular Day Polls
1. Siegfried/Nightmare vs. Ramza Beoulve/Delita Hyral – Round 1 - 30165
2. Amaterasu/Orochi vs. Tom Nook/Crazy Redd – Round 1 - 30862
3. Bartz/Gilgamesh vs. Guybrush/LeChuck – Round 1 – 31360
4. Kratos/Zeus vs. Professor Layton/Don Paolo – Round 1 - 33099
5. Mega Man/Dr. Wily vs. Banjo/Gruntilda – Round 1 - 33441

Top 5 Least Impressive Day Winners
1. Siegfried/Nightmare – Round 1 - 16797
2. Frog/Magus – Round 1 - 19662
3. Bartz/Gilgamesh – Round 1 – 20147
4. Amaterasu/Orochi – Round 1 - 20714
5. Luigi/Waluigi – Round 1 – 21861
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#122 | Xuxon | Posted 11/17/2011 9:15:32 PM | message detail
Kirby got 45.39% 1v1 last year, and his rival is much better than Robotnik.
#123 | foxhead84 | Posted 11/17/2011 9:16:11 PM | message detail
jacko_vdz posted...
Are any of those perfect brackets on the leaderboard alts? Because there are a heap of Link/Ganon entries with similar names, all in a row :/

How many bracket does Luster have this year?
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#124 | BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/17/2011 9:17:45 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #120
Series Contest, not Character Battle.


Ah, that makes sense. Pretty sure CV/Halo was the only wrong match I had in the first round that year, so it makes sense there was probably several 0 brackets that made it.
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#125 | vcharon | Posted 11/17/2011 9:18:34 PM | message detail
Sonic/Robotnik is a classic gaming rivalry. Meta Knight is probably stronger 1v1, but Robotnik adds more to Sonic than MK adds to Kirby.
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#126 | YoAriel33 | Posted 11/17/2011 9:20:12 PM | message detail | (edited)

From: Xuxon | #122
Kirby got 45.39% 1v1 last year, and his rival is much better than Robotnik.


I really wouldn't take that as a given. Robotnik may be fat and useless, but paired up with Sonic, he makes arguably one of the dozen-or-so most iconic pairings in gaming. Meta Knight just isn't at that level. MK does nothing for Kirby because he brings nothing new to the table - funny/cute/cool design and Smash appeal - which already made up the lion's share of Kirby's strength. You have to argue that Robotnik actively detracts from Sonic to even give Kirby a real chance. If you think Robotnik is a fat Waluigi, then I can see where you're coming from. I certainly don't think he's that bad for his team, however.
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#127 | greatone10 | Posted 11/17/2011 9:20:34 PM | message detail
Knuckles would do more for Sonic than Eggman could, but I don't think Robotnik hurts Sonic at all though, which is why Sonic should be the favorite.
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#128 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/17/2011 9:21:40 PM | message detail

From: Xuxon | #122
Kirby got 45.39% 1v1 last year, and his rival is much better than Robotnik.


1-on-1, maybe, but I think Sonic/Robotnik as a team is fine. Kirby/Meta Knight isn't really a "classic" rivalry in the sense that Sonic/Robotnik is. You may not like Robotnik individually, but paired up? I don't see Kirby/Meta Knight getting RIVALRY FACTOR'D to victory over Sonic/Robotnik.
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#129 | Xuxon | Posted 11/17/2011 9:22:48 PM | message detail
Well the thing is, this is the only match of the contest I've thought might be within 55/45 apart from Tidus/Bosses, simply because there's already data suggesting it's within 55/45. Robotnik probably doesn't pull down Sonic enough to lose, but it's more debatable to me than most matches that have been debated.
#130 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/17/2011 9:27:33 PM | message detail
Yesterday's chart:

Time | Siegmare | Ramita | Votes
0:05 | 56.62% | 43.38% | 408
1:00 | 55.04% | 44.96% | 3634
2:00 | 54.77% | 45.23% | 3142
3:00 | 56.03% | 43.97% | 2738
4:00 | 58.28% | 41.72% | 2838
5:00 | 56.17% | 43.83% | 2861
6:00 | 56.40% | 43.60% | 2670
7:00 | 56.27% | 43.73% | 2575
8:00 | 55.72% | 44.28% | 2306
9:00 | 54.94% | 45.06% | 2115
10:00 | 55.06% | 44.94% | 1938
11:00 | 55.65% | 44.35% | 1806
12:00 | 52.33% | 47.67 | 1542

Ramza/Delita hurt my Oracle prediction with a strong last hour (*grumble, grumble*). Other than that, not much to see here.
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#131 | Solfadore | Posted 11/17/2011 9:28:52 PM | message detail
I'm much more worried over ChellDOS/Frogus than Sonic/Kirby. Still have no idea who I'm gonna stick with.
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#132 | The Real Truth | Posted 11/17/2011 9:30:34 PM | message detail
BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
I was actually surprised how many people had Ramza in the Guru. There was no real reason to take this upset, everything we've seen in the past has indicated Nightmare > Ramza, and there's no doubt in my mind that Siegfried > Delita. We'll probably lose a few more perfects on the Sora/Hitler match too.

Actually, looking through the Guru, it seems that pretty much everyone still alive aside from Yesmar took some really weird round 3 + upsets. If the rest of the bracket is cookie, I might still end up looking good in the final rankings.


Man, like 3 days ago I was asking myself why I had Ramza/Delita. I actually took Nightmare in my battle bracket because I didn't think Ramza could win.
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#133 | The Real Truth | Posted 11/17/2011 9:31:42 PM | message detail
Also, seeing two of my favorite characters (Dante/Vergil) get above 80% is awesome.
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#134 | tennisboy213 | Posted 11/17/2011 9:43:17 PM | message detail
23 Soul_Warper 30 Link vs. Ganondorf
24 SoulWarper 30 Link vs. Ganondorf
26 MariasPanties 30 Link vs. Ganondorf
27 CrimsonClown 30 Link vs. Ganondorf
28 DeathClown 30 Link vs. Ganondorf
29 DeathTiki 30 Link vs. Ganondorf
31 WelchsPanties 30 Link vs. Ganondorf
32 IzaksPanties 30 Link vs. Ganondorf
38 WelchsMelons 30 Link vs. Ganondorf

Yeah, similar names here
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#135 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/17/2011 9:46:22 PM | message detail
Yeah, there is one user with about 20 accounts on the bracket leaderboard right now. Unlike with the battle leaderboard, multiple accounts with the same score are not grouped into one entry on the leaderboard.
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#136 | Xuxon | Posted 11/17/2011 9:47:19 PM | message detail
Is that user by any chance... you?
#137 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/17/2011 9:47:39 PM | message detail
No, it's not me.
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#138 | Xuxon | Posted 11/17/2011 9:52:58 PM | message detail
I wonder why they grouped them together in battle and not bracket, anyway. I guess if you have 20+ brackets you probably want some variation in there, so there's less concern about them clogging the field. But clearly it matters now.
#139 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/17/2011 9:54:17 PM | message detail
That grouping stuff was put into place during the last contest when I dominated the battle leaderboard with multiple accounts, so my accounts were grouped into one entry. However, I didn't have multiple accounts on the bracket leaderboard during the last contest, so the grouping stuff was not put in place for the bracket leaderobard.
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#140 | cbaron0 | Posted 11/17/2011 10:18:48 PM | message detail
I think a real match here would be

Dan/Sagat vs Sol/Ky

Although it probably won't even break 20k votes.
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#141 | YoAriel33 | Posted 11/17/2011 10:22:51 PM | message detail

From: cbaron0 | #140
Dan/Sagat vs Sol/Ky


I was thinking about the same thing. I'd imagine Dan/Sagat take that easily because Sagat is instantly recognizable as a SFII guy, and little more should be needed to pound Guilty Gear. Taking that (and only that) into consideration, it makes Dante look less impressive here, although we know that matches against such trashable fodder are useless.
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#142 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 11/17/2011 10:40:14 PM | message detail
Dante probably rises a little from here out. I'm happy with this, not that it means terribly much. I don't see Sora/Riku doing well this contest, not after the eggs they laid last time round. Should be okay against Hitler though.
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#143 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/17/2011 10:41:27 PM | message detail
The problem is that this is Dante's M.O.

Round 1 blowout against fodder character
Round 2 choke against character that doesn't actually suck
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#144 | AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 11/17/2011 10:47:10 PM | message detail
It needs to be next round so i can care again.
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#145 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/17/2011 10:49:34 PM | message detail
Man, I really hope Bacon learns a lesson from how bad this contest has been up to this point.

And hopefully, it's the right lesson.
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#146 | pjbasis | Posted 11/17/2011 10:56:38 PM | message detail
What's bad about the contest exactly?

I'm pretty surprised at how bad my oracle is.
#147 | The Real Truth | Posted 11/17/2011 10:57:45 PM | message detail
Really just needs to stick to 2vs2 12 hour matches and keep the stronger characters in with a mixed bracket. There's no reason for Squall to ever be paired with Snake or Cloud, just like there's no reason for Samus to ever be paired with with Mario or Link.
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#148 | The Real Truth | Posted 11/17/2011 10:58:16 PM | message detail
and by paired I mean on the same side of the bracket. There's literally no chance either wins any of those matches.
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#149 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/17/2011 10:59:19 PM | message detail

From: pjbasis | #146
What's bad about the contest exactly?


Well, if you enjoy 32 straight matches of nothing, then I suppose you might consider this contest good! A first round where the lowest percentage for a winner is 55.28% and the lowest prediction percentage is 55.06% doesn't speak of a high quality first round.

It's ultimately a huge waste of potential though. There are a few spots in this bracket where I look and say, "If only Bacon had put them there instead of here, we might have something interesting," but alas.
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#150 | YoAriel33 | Posted 11/17/2011 11:00:46 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #149
Well, if you enjoy 32 straight matches of nothing, then I suppose you might consider this contest good!


Good? You'd consider this THE BEST CONTEST EVER.
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