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#401 | charmander6000 | Posted 11/17/2011 6:53:04 AM | message detail
Match XXX: (4) Siegfried Schtauffen/Nightmare vs. (5) Ramza Beoulve/Delita Hyral

Previous Contest

Siegfried Schtauffen – 2008
16.80% against Leon Kennedy, Riku and Captain MacMillan

Nightmare – 2008
22.69% against Samus Aran, Crash Bandicoot and Raz
15.24% against Samus Aran, Ganondorf and Frog

Ramza Beoulve – 2010
37.69% against Riku

Delita Hyral – N/A
N/A

Analysis

Before the contest began this was among one of the more talked about matches and even now it is rather talked about. Going against Final Fantasy in a debatable match with a pair not from Nintendo or a highly popular series may feel wrong to a lot of people, but I feel that the pair from Soul Calibur would be able to handle the pressure.

The main argument comes from the previous performances. Nightmare has looked rather decent in his two contest appearances and while you can say that he was lucky with bracket placement to reach the second round in both contests he is not a fodder character. Ramza on the other hand stunk up the place in 2008 with his return since 2003 and while he did look a bit better in the next contest against Riku you also have to take into account that Siegfried put up similar numbers on Riku in 2008 where Kingdom Hearts looked to be stronger. Delita I feel does not bring much to the poll besides rivalry power which I feel that Siegfried and Nightmare both have their fair share.

The best chance for Ramza and Delita would be to hope that Soul Calibur has fallen off the map in the three years since we last saw Siegfried and Nightmare. Soul Calibur hasn’t had a release since 2008 so it wouldn’t be a shock to see Siegfried and Nightmare take a drop of strength, especially with all of the fighting games being released between then. Still I feel that their strength won’t decay that quickly to the point Ramza defeats Nightmare rather handily.

Siegfried and Nightmare will win due to their overall strength being higher than Ramza and Delita. While it is possible that an upset can happen I don’t see it happening. Ramza just doesn’t have the same strength that he had back in 2003 and now he can only pick off fodder characters instead of characters with strength.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Siegfried Schtauffen/Nightmare > Ramza Beoulve/Delita Hyral

charmander6000’s Prediction: Siegfried Schtauffen/Nightmare wins, 58.46% - 41.54%
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#402 | shane15 | Posted 11/17/2011 7:15:13 AM | message detail
Charmander just gave me a huge boost with my Nightmare pick.LETS DO THIS THING!
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#403 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/17/2011 7:27:40 AM | message detail

From: transience | #398
this result is underwhelming to me. maybe my expectations are off but it seems like this should be in the high 70s given what we've seen from other matches between strong and weak characters this year. not a big deal, but I was expecting this rivalry to mean something.


Eh, Laharl's probably stronger than other fodder pairs we've seen this year. I think we just got overwhelmed by what we saw from the first week of the contest with all these high 70s-low 80s blowouts.

I mean, Laharl/Mid-Boss would totally have a shot at beating the 'atherines, right? Right?

So we can call Squall/Seifer = Sonic/Robotnik, right?

Right.
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#404 | TheOneAboveAll | Posted 11/17/2011 7:33:00 AM | message detail
Interestingly enough, those extrapolated stats from treating all the vote-ins equally gives us the top 11 being the Noble Nine plus the two rivalries who "rivalries matter" would give the best results to. There may be something to that after all.
#405 | ffmasterjose | Posted 11/17/2011 7:59:10 AM | message detail
That Squall/Seifer pic is top tier
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#406 | Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 11/17/2011 8:09:23 AM | message detail
TheOneAboveAll posted...
Interestingly enough, those extrapolated stats from treating all the vote-ins equally gives us the top 11 being the Noble Nine plus the two rivalries who "rivalries matter" would give the best results to. There may be something to that after all.

I just wasted 5 minutes trying to figure out why there were 3 non-NNers and all of the other nine in the top 11
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#407 | FateStayAlbion | Posted 11/17/2011 8:30:17 AM | message detail
So Saturday is the first day of 24 hour matches, right? I can't wait to see how bad the vote totals are. Can we top 60k?
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#408 | Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 11/17/2011 8:31:39 AM | message detail
Well in the tiebreaker question I said 150.000 votes for the final match!And it will not even get half the votes!Awesome!
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#409 | shane15 | Posted 11/17/2011 8:58:52 AM | message detail
Well get ready the most up in the air match of R1 is about to begin.
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#410 | GloriousSweater | Posted 11/17/2011 9:00:15 AM | message detail
Siegfried vs. Nightmare 90.91%

10
Ramza Beoulve vs. Delita Hyral 9.09%

1
TOTAL VOTES 11

bracketz
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#411 | Master Moltar | Posted 11/17/2011 9:00:19 AM | message detail
Siegfried vs. Nightmare 90%

9
Ramza Beoulve vs. Delita Hyral 10%

1
TOTAL VOTES 10

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#412 | MarquessLaus | Posted 11/17/2011 9:00:32 AM | message detail
Siegfried vs. Nightmare 70.37% 19
Ramza Beoulve vs. Delita Hyral 29.63% 8
TOTAL VOTES 27
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#413 | FateStayAlbion | Posted 11/17/2011 9:00:44 AM | message detail
#414 | shane15 | Posted 11/17/2011 9:01:11 AM | message detail
My God i hope this aint just the board vote.
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#415 | GloriousSweater | Posted 11/17/2011 9:02:14 AM | message detail
Man, I've noticed the votals. ouuuch has it really been like this the whole time?
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#416 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 11/17/2011 9:02:30 AM | message detail
Second minute won by Ramza/Delita.
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#417 | Guess how many teens | Posted 11/17/2011 9:02:51 AM | message detail
has anyone even comeback from a 60 vote lead this contest?

:p
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#418 | Ultimaphazon | Posted 11/17/2011 9:02:59 AM | message detail
This might end up somewhat close. Could be our best match so far this year.
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#419 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 11/17/2011 9:03:24 AM | message detail
But SC takes the third!
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#420 | transcience | Posted 11/17/2011 9:03:31 AM | message detail
bracket vote over, the real match begins
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#421 | The Real Truth | Posted 11/17/2011 9:04:00 AM | message detail
Come on team Nightmare. I love Ramza/Delita and nominated them, but have you guys in my battle bracket.
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#422 | shane15 | Posted 11/17/2011 9:04:10 AM | message detail
Why must we have a close one with so much on the line ;_;.This match should've been second at least then we'd have nothing to lose.
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#423 | TRE Public Account | Posted 11/17/2011 9:04:40 AM | message detail
Score-Brackets-% Right
28------489--------99.80
27------410--------99.02
26------848--------97.64
25------1506------97.14
24------2142------95.10
23------2273------94.10
22------2174------91.44
21------1887------90.30
20------1456------88.32
19------973--------87.05
18------602--------82.39
17------354--------81.64
16------169--------78.11
15------103--------59.22
14------48----------70.83
13------18----------50.00
12------14----------78.57
11------7------------71.43
10------5------------0.00
9--------7------------0.00
8--------4------------50.00
7--------4------------25.00
6--------4------------0.00
5--------6------------16.67
4--------4------------0.00
3--------6------------16.67
2--------8------------0.00
1--------16----------0.00
0--------15----------0.00

Nothing too special with this one. We do end up losing one perfect bracket on the match.

No one fell off the Top 50.
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#424 | Guess how many teens | Posted 11/17/2011 9:05:36 AM | message detail
it's over

gg ramza
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#425 | th3l3fty | Posted 11/17/2011 9:05:44 AM | message detail

From: shane15 | #422
Why must we have a close one with so much on the line ;_;.This match should've been second at least then we'd have nothing to lose.


where's the excitement in that?
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#426 | Ultimaphazon | Posted 11/17/2011 9:05:48 AM | message detail
408 votes at the freeze. That feels like it's horrible, even by day match standards for this contest.
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#427 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/17/2011 9:05:54 AM | message detail
GloriousSweater | Posted 11/17/2011 12:02:14 PM | message detail | quote
Man, I've noticed the votals. ouuuch has it really been like this the whole time?


Yes, it has. Also, the last 6 night matches have gotten under 30000 votes. We could very well end up with 7 straight night matches at the end of round 1 that all finished under 30000 votes. Vote totals seem to be worse right now than they were at the beginning of the contest.
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#428 | FateStayAlbion | Posted 11/17/2011 9:06:10 AM | message detail
I just hope the current trend of PS1 FF characters having bad board votes holds up here.
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#429 | TheOneAboveAll | Posted 11/17/2011 9:06:33 AM | message detail
I wonder if we'll finally see a bunch of banks or perfects get battle picks wrong here.
#430 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 11/17/2011 9:07:14 AM | message detail
Nice one, Oceania.
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#431 | Haguile | Posted 11/17/2011 9:07:25 AM | message detail
56-43? This...is the closest match we had so far isn't it?
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#432 | transcience | Posted 11/17/2011 9:07:57 AM | message detail
this is what gambling is all about - putting 30000 points on the line for a crappy Soul Calibur vs. FFT match. let's do this.

I picked Siegfried solely because it was a day match. SC should rock Ramza in a day match. I think this stays really close until school lets out.
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#433 | th3l3fty | Posted 11/17/2011 9:08:18 AM | message detail

From: Haguile | #431
56-43? This...is the closest match we had so far isn't it?


Luigi/Waluigi vs. Cecil/Golbez is the only one closer so far, but this could beat it
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#434 | Janus5000 | Posted 11/17/2011 9:08:31 AM | message detail
Man, my bracket is a total mess, but if Ramza pulls this off, I may at least stay on the board until Sonic beats Kirby.

That's not very likely, but man, 56/44 feels very close after watching this contest.
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#435 | __Smurf__ | Posted 11/17/2011 9:08:45 AM | message detail
Its funny looking at the percentages, trends and minutes into the match and feeling confident in the result. Then realising there's only a 50 vote gap.
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#436 | Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 11/17/2011 9:08:45 AM | message detail
Okay this contest's first round will end with around 450 perfects!Man people are getting good in this contest thing!
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#437 | FateStayAlbion | Posted 11/17/2011 9:09:03 AM | message detail
#438 | GloriousSweater | Posted 11/17/2011 9:10:17 AM | message detail
OMFG I'LL TAKE THAT UPDATE
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#439 | eaglesarebeasts | Posted 11/17/2011 9:10:25 AM | message detail
LMAO votals
#440 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 11/17/2011 9:10:38 AM | message detail
Should be the end o' that.
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#441 | TRE Public Account | Posted 11/17/2011 9:10:53 AM | message detail
Not too bad Siegfried vs. Nightmare. Just keep those 55-45 updates rolling in.
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#442 | LOLContests | Posted 11/17/2011 9:10:54 AM | message detail
C'mon, lets get a jump to like 47% here for Ramza.

You turned on Ramza once. Accept your fate.
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#443 | transcience | Posted 11/17/2011 9:11:32 AM | message detail
feeling good about Siegfried here. they may have lost percentage but they're increasing during what should be Ramza's best time. the only concern is brackets. need one or two more updates.
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#444 | shane15 | Posted 11/17/2011 9:11:33 AM | message detail
Oceania still rocking 100% for Nightmare.Shame their vote means hardly anything.
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#445 | Guess how many teens | Posted 11/17/2011 9:11:47 AM | message detail
nah theres gonna go down at least 100 perfects today regardless of result

prolly at least 50 battle brackets too.
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#446 | ZFS | Posted 11/17/2011 9:11:53 AM | message detail
siegfried and nightmare who even likes these clowns
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#447 | Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 11/17/2011 9:11:59 AM | message detail
Surprised it's this close. This is the one "debated" match that I felt most confident in.
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#448 | FateStayAlbion | Posted 11/17/2011 9:12:15 AM | message detail
shane15 posted...
Oceania still rocking 100% for Nightmare.Shame their vote means hardly anything.

Those geolocation votes only update every 10 minutes
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#449 | __Smurf__ | Posted 11/17/2011 9:12:30 AM | message detail
Just looking through Round 2. Dante v Sora looks like literally the only match with even a tiny chance of an upset, did I miss anything?
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#450 | shane15 | Posted 11/17/2011 9:13:09 AM | message detail
Nice to see the whole leaderboard risking it all.I don't think anyone is going to bank at all.
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