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#301 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/16/2011 9:03:32 PM | message detail
80.52% for the Snakes

Not many were fooled, I guess.
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#302 | Justin_Crossing | Posted 11/16/2011 9:03:44 PM | message detail
literally doing worse than terra/kefka
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#303 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/16/2011 9:03:46 PM | message detail
I never understood why Squall gets anti-voted, because he's never won a contest and doesn't have anywhere near the amount of strength necessary to win a contest.
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#304 | pjbasis | Posted 11/16/2011 9:04:21 PM | message detail
The hell?

Has New Final Fantasy really taken such a divebomb in popularity?
#305 | greatone10 | Posted 11/16/2011 9:04:23 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #301
80.52% for the Snakes

Not many were fooled, I guess.


Snake's usually a casual favorite and Chrono is typically underrated by brackets. I'm surprised it isn't higher.
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#306 | jacko_vdz | Posted 11/16/2011 9:05:04 PM | message detail
Damn, why did I predict so high... people were hyping Squall massively :/
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#307 | FateStayAlbion | Posted 11/16/2011 9:05:25 PM | message detail
-LusterSoldier- posted...
I never understood why Squall gets anti-voted, because he's never won a contest and doesn't have anywhere near the amount of strength necessary to win a contest.

He's a horrible emo character that is incredibly overrated.
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#308 | abdou | Posted 11/16/2011 9:05:43 PM | message detail
This site does not like FF anymore except for the old school ones
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#309 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/16/2011 9:06:26 PM | message detail
Pretty impressive rise those last couple minutes.

Yeah, 70% easily.
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#310 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 11/16/2011 9:06:30 PM | message detail
In all truth this is probably just fine for Squall, but it was still hilarious to see Laharl over 40% when I voted.
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#311 | shinigami820 | Posted 11/16/2011 9:06:48 PM | message detail

From: FateStayAlbion | #307
He's a horrible emo character that is incredibly overrated.


*points at Cloud*
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#312 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/16/2011 9:06:53 PM | message detail

From: FateStayAlbion | #307
He's a horrible emo character that is incredibly overrated.


Albion disliking Squall is actually rather affirming.
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#313 | pjbasis | Posted 11/16/2011 9:07:13 PM | message detail
No wonder Lightning looked like bad turbofodder.
#314 | Xuxon | Posted 11/16/2011 9:07:23 PM | message detail
i guess i'm in the minority in thinking Midboss is a terrible rival. did not expect these percentages at all.
#315 | Neosadus | Posted 11/16/2011 9:07:30 PM | message detail
Was just another ff anti board vote, nothing to see here folks.
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#316 | FateStayAlbion | Posted 11/16/2011 9:08:35 PM | message detail
Xuxon posted...
i guess i'm in the minority in thinking Midboss is a terrible rival. did not expect these percentages at all.

Should have been Etna.

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Her goal for half the game was trying to kill Laharl, after all! Mid Boss just kinda got his ass kicked over and over again while not even being a threat.



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#317 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 11/16/2011 9:10:34 PM | message detail
Score-Brackets-% Right
27------493--------99.19
26------435--------93.33
25------942--------86.94
24------1626------85.06
23------2291------82.89
22------2385------78.87
21------2148------77.75
20------1822------77.33
19------1356------76.92
18------860--------76.74
17------532--------75.56
16------282--------79.43
15------145--------76.55
14------89----------77.53
13------36----------77.78
12------15----------66.67
11------14----------64.29
10------5------------40.00
9--------8------------25.00
8--------2------------50.00
7--------7------------42.86
6--------3------------0.00
5--------7------------14.29
4--------4------------0.00
3--------6------------0.00
2--------8------------0.00
1--------15----------0.00
0--------16----------6.25

Still lost a few perfects on this match but I guess Crono isn't exactly a pushover. Overall a pretty normal chart.

3 of the 4 perfects that got it wrong were on the Top 50 and this fell off. UberPrinny15, Erruptio and XerosCandela did not have Solid Snake vs. Liquid Snake winning the match.
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#318 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/16/2011 9:11:10 PM | message detail
#319 | pjbasis | Posted 11/16/2011 9:11:26 PM | message detail
Go Leonhart go!
#320 | Xuxon | Posted 11/16/2011 9:12:10 PM | message detail
damn, this definitely isn't breaking the spread. i had some slight hope with that 79% fifth minute. oh well.
#321 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 11/16/2011 9:13:25 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3806

That was Sora at night but isn't it a bit much to expect Squall to go 10 percentage points higher than that?
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#322 | pjbasis | Posted 11/16/2011 9:14:02 PM | message detail
Still can't believe FFVI can blow out better than VII and VIII.
#323 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/16/2011 9:14:12 PM | message detail
Eh, 77% was a bit unrealistic to begin with. Squall/Laharl in the X-Stats is a 72% win for Squall. I think there's only so much RIVALRY FACTOR is going to add when you're already at percentages this high unless you're Link or Mario.
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#324 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 11/16/2011 9:14:21 PM | message detail
Were people really expecting Squall/Seifer to slaughter here? Squall's not *that* much above Sora.
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#325 | red sox 777 | Posted 11/16/2011 9:14:37 PM | message detail
Not 70% yet? Well I guess they've still got a long time to rise. But I was expecting like 80% here. Maybe Laharl isn't that weak, I guess.
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#326 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/16/2011 9:14:47 PM | message detail

From: pjbasis | #322
Still can't believe FFVI can blow out better than VII and VIII.


Vyse/Galcian will be fighting Dan/Sagat for dead last in the stats.
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#327 | Xuxon | Posted 11/16/2011 9:15:24 PM | message detail
this isn't just Squall vs Laharl, though. Midboss is an awful rival while Seifer is pretty cool and the rivalry is great. but like i said, i guess i'm in the minority in that opinion.
#328 | red sox 777 | Posted 11/16/2011 9:15:37 PM | message detail
Yeah, I was thinking that Laharl and Vyse were similar in strength. Maybe they once were, but I guess no more.
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#329 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/16/2011 9:16:13 PM | message detail
More glorious percentage rising.
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#330 | GrapefruitKing | Posted 11/16/2011 9:16:30 PM | message detail
oh, might even get a tripling at this rate
but probably not
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#331 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/16/2011 9:17:06 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #328
Yeah, I was thinking that Laharl and Vyse were similar in strength. Maybe they once were, but I guess no more.


Vyse has been bad, bad, bad fodder since 2005. We originally blamed Tifa/Vyse on RPG SFF, but Vyse has validated that performance ever since.

Laharl would break 60% on Vyse and easily at that, I think.
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#332 | pjbasis | Posted 11/16/2011 9:17:36 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #326
Vyse/Galcian will be fighting Dan/Sagat for dead last in the stats.


No!

Because Chris/Wesker is legit.
#333 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/16/2011 9:18:17 PM | message detail
About as legit as Terra/Kefka.
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#334 | charmander6000 | Posted 11/16/2011 9:18:20 PM | message detail
Updated Top 5

Top 5 Closest Matches
1. Luigi/Waluigi – 55.28% vs. Cecil Harvey/Golbez – 44.72% - Round 1 – 10.56%
2. Frog/Magus – 56.13% vs. Raiden/Vamp – 43.87% - Round 1 – 12.26%
3. Phoenix Wright/Miles Edgeworth – 56.56% vs. Gordon Freeman/Dr. Breen – 43.44% - Round 1 – 13.12%
4. Kirby/Meta Knight – 58.47% vs. Jill Valentine/Nemesis – 41.53% - Round 1 – 16.94%
5. Solid Snake/Liquid Snake – 58.77% vs. Crono/Lavos – 41.23% – Round 1 – 17.54%

Top 5 Smallest Night Vote Gaps
1. Phoenix Wright/Miles Edgeworth – 15111 vs. Gordon Freeman/Dr. Breen – 11606 – Round 1 – 3505
2. Chell/GlaDOS – 16196 vs. Ness/Giygas – 11223 – Round 1 - 4973
3. Kirby/Meta Knight – 17837 vs. Jill Valentine/Nemesis – 12671 – Round 1 – 5166
4. Pac-Man/Blinky – 15151 vs. Crash Bandicoot/Dr. Neo Cortex – 8706 – Round 1 - 6445
5. Donkey Kong/King K. Rool – 19148 vs. Ezio/Rodrigo – 12660 – Round 1 – 6488

Top 5 Smallest Day Vote Gaps
1. Luigi/Waluigi – 21861 vs. Cecil Harvey/Golbez – 17685 – Round 1 – 4176
2. Frog/Magus – 19662 vs. Raiden/Vamp – 15368 – Round 1- 4294
3. Solid Snake/Liquid Snake – 22190 vs. Crono/Lavos – 15565 – Round 1 - 6625
4. Ike/Black Knight – 22959 vs. Conker/Great Mighty Poo – 15677 – Round 1 – 7282
5. Big Boss/The Boss – 23861 vs. Tidus/Jecht – 16148 – Round 1 - 7713

Top 5 Least Popular Night Polls
1. Pac-Man/Blinky vs. Crash Bandicoot/Dr. Neo Cortex – Round 1 - 23857
2. Zidane Tribal/Kuja vs. Meat Boy/Dr. Fetus – Round 1 – 24721
3. Phoenix Wright/Miles Edgeworth vs. Gordon Freeman/Dr. Breen – Round 1 - 26717
4. Chris Redfield/Albert Wesker vs. Dan Hibiki/Sagat – Round 1 – 27276
5. Chell/GlaDOS vs. Ness/Giygas – Round 1 - 27419

Top 5 Least Impressive Night Winners
1. Phoenix Wright/Miles Edgeworth – Round 1 – 15111
2. Pac-Man/Blinky – Round 1 - 15151
3. Zidane Tribal/Kuja – Round 1 – 15973
4. Chell/GlaDOS – Round 1 - 16196
5. Kirby/Meta Knight – Round 1 – 17837

Top 5 Least Impressive Day Winners
1. Frog/Magus – Round 1 - 19662
2. Bartz/Gilgamesh – Round 1 – 20147
3. Amaterasu/Orochi – Round 1 - 20714
4. Luigi/Waluigi – Round 1 – 21861
5. Solid Snake/Liquid Snake – Round 1 - 22190

Top 5 Most Impressive Day Losers
1. Cecil Harvey/Golbez – Round 1 – 17685
2. Tidus/Jecht – Round 1 – 16148
3. Conker/Great Mighty Poo – Round 1 – 15677
4. Crono/Lavos – Round 1 - 15565
5. Yuna/Seymour – Round 1 – 15498
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#335 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 11/16/2011 9:18:35 PM | message detail
Although something that can be said is that these last few matches have made the likes of Sub/Scorp look a lot more impressive. I'd take Leon/Ada over Lloyd/Kratos and Laharl/Mid-Boss without a second thought, and now it's pretty clear that simply being a rivalry alone won't be enough to get absurd percents.
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#336 | pjbasis | Posted 11/16/2011 9:21:16 PM | message detail | (edited)
Chris/Wesker winning that division

edit: If Samus/Ridley wasn't in the way of course.
#337 | FateStayAlbion | Posted 11/16/2011 9:20:24 PM | message detail
Laharl has stayed relevant with all the new Disgaea releases (Disgaea 4 just came out in September), and re-releases on handheld systems. Vyse has had like... a cameo in Valkyria Chronicles and I think thats it.
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#338 | red sox 777 | Posted 11/16/2011 9:20:42 PM | message detail
Maybe it was just the Cloud anti-votes in 2004!
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#339 | charmander6000 | Posted 11/16/2011 9:22:24 PM | message detail
Vyse was still the fodder line in 2004, he looked good against Donkey Kong.
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#340 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/16/2011 9:23:00 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #338
Maybe it was just the Cloud anti-votes in 2004!


It's possible, but he was still within a percent of matching Duke Milkem's percentage in that match.

But Vyse struggled to beat Rayman and got more than doubled by Nightmare in 2007. Didn't even make the contest in 2008. Got torched in the vote-ins in 2010.

I don't know what it was about the site shift in 2005, but Skies of Arcadia took a hard hit from it.
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#341 | creativename | Posted 11/16/2011 9:25:16 PM | message detail
Man the Nintendo Power Hour really freakin' hates FF7 and FF8.
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#342 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/16/2011 9:26:33 PM | message detail
FF7, I understand, FF8 anti-votes don't make any sense to me.
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#343 | GrapefruitKing | Posted 11/16/2011 9:26:49 PM | message detail
kinda sucks that Squall/Seifer is being fed to Cloud
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#344 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/16/2011 9:27:41 PM | message detail

From: -LusterSoldier- | #342
FF7, I understand, FF8 anti-votes don't make any sense to me.


FFVIII is a very polarizing game and many people don't like it. It's got nothing to do with how successful Squall or FFVIII has been in contests.
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#345 | red sox 777 | Posted 11/16/2011 9:29:18 PM | message detail | (edited)
FFVIII is guilty by association in the minds of the FFVII anti-voters. And it's been going on a long time too. IIRC, Luigi was leading against Squall at the freeze.
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#346 | pjbasis | Posted 11/16/2011 9:29:04 PM | message detail
Predicting Round 2 percentages should be interesting.

I expect a lot of underperformance by previous blowouters.
#347 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 11/16/2011 9:29:42 PM | message detail
Chris/Wesker beat what might easily be the weakest pairing in the contest. Sagat is the third-strongest of the SFII bosses, and we've seen Dan in a vote-in get smashed. Sure they're Street Fighter, but they're a rivalry that you have to care about Street Fighter's plot post-SF2 to care about unlike the Recolors. If Chris/Wesker could take Tidus/Jecht, let alone the bosses, Sub/Scorp vs. X/Zero just became debatable.

...Assuming Leon/Ada and Crono/Lavos' relation in the vote-ins was legit, what's Sub/Scorp expected to get on the Snakes, for comedy sake?
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#348 | vcharon | Posted 11/16/2011 9:30:07 PM | message detail
Basically any character that has appeared in Kingdom Hearts will get antivoted I think.
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#349 | FateStayAlbion | Posted 11/16/2011 9:30:25 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
From: -LusterSoldier- | #342
FF7, I understand, FF8 anti-votes don't make any sense to me.
FFVIII is a very polarizing game and many people don't like it. It's got nothing to do with how successful Squall or FFVIII has been in contests.


FF8 is one of the rare games I've seen on both Best Game Ever Lists and Worst Game Ever Lists.
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#350 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/16/2011 9:30:28 PM | message detail

From: GrapefruitKing | #343
kinda sucks that Squall/Seifer is being fed to Cloud


Squall/Seifer could get a completely RPG-laden path in this contest if Ramza/Delita win tomorrow and Sora/Riku beat Dante/Vergil.

Not too thrilled about the prospect of Squall facing Sora (again) and Cloud (again). Even if the Snakes win, that's still Squall/Snake yet again, although that would honestly be preferable because we could get a clear reading from that match as opposed to what we'll get from Cloud/Sephy vs. Squall/Seifer.
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