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#201 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/16/2011 10:29:47 AM | message detail
Eh, at least this isn't the disaster it coulda been. Ya know, if Snake actually does the unthinkable (or comes close), this will be the second straight time that Crono looks great in the stats despite a R1 exit.
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#202 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/16/2011 10:35:15 AM | message detail
Dude, holy crap.

Crono near 40% with THAT picture advantage. No offense Zen, but Liquid looks like crap. Not your fault, there are NO good Liquid pictures, but.... jesus.

Our closest match is going to be a Waluigi win, isn't it?
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#203 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/16/2011 10:46:24 AM | message detail
Great (and pretty realistic) scenario for Crono:

This ends at 60/40
Snakes challenge Cloud/Seph but come just short (52/48)
Cloud/Seph challenge Link but come just short (52/48)
Link crushes Mario (62/38)

Unless Mario/Bowser somehow struggle in a match before the finals, that should put Crono at #5 in the stats. Heck, depending on how close the Snake/Cloud/Link matches are and how badly Link beats Mario, he could end up at #4, higher than anyone in the bracket's top half.

...good lord when did I become red sox
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#204 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/16/2011 10:52:07 AM | message detail
This match makes me think Snake beats Cloud, actually.
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#205 | Haste_2 | Posted 11/16/2011 10:53:17 AM | message detail
In a way Solid/Liquid is disappointing, because their pairing was supposed to have greater synergy than Crono/Lavos. Cloud/Sephiroth should be safe. And, yeah, Crono could overperforming slightly due to pic advantage, though.

This ends at 60/40
Snakes challenge Cloud/Seph but come just short (52/48)
Cloud/Seph challenge Link but come just short (52/48)
Link crushes Mario (62/38)


It looks about right, except I think Mario will do much better than that... as long as the Skyward Sword doesn't have any major effect. It seems that new releases can have a significant effect on SFF at times, even if the said character hasn't changed much. We saw how Mario resisted SFF for the most part against Link back in 2007 at the time Mario Galaxy was released.
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#206 | Yami_no_Geimu | Posted 11/16/2011 12:10:23 PM | message detail
sigfried/night vs ramza/delita predictions?
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#207 | abdou | Posted 11/16/2011 12:10:31 PM | message detail
Crono/Lavos getting crushed in Europe

has Crono always been weaker in Europe?
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#208 | TRE Public Account | Posted 11/16/2011 12:11:33 PM | message detail
Yes. The original SNES version of Chrono Trigger was never released in Europe.
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#209 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/16/2011 12:13:17 PM | message detail
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#210 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/16/2011 12:20:31 PM | message detail
Nobody commented on how atrocious Pac-Man/Crash vote totals were?

23,000 votes holy crap that's bad
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#211 | pjbasis | Posted 11/16/2011 12:22:23 PM | message detail
Hey that's the Twin Snakes pic I wanted!

And I don't think this means Snake has much of a chance against Cloud, at least not the Link-destroying Cloud I imagined he would be.
#212 | TRE Public Account | Posted 11/16/2011 12:22:39 PM | message detail
Are Pac-man and Crash typically bad vote draws? Regardless of it you like them, I would have expected them to draw in votes just because everyone knows them.
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#213 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/16/2011 12:25:19 PM | message detail

From: TRE Public Account | #212
Are Pac-man and Crash typically bad vote draws? Regardless of it you like them, I would have expected them to draw in votes just because everyone knows them.


I think this pretty accurately displays the difference between "knowing" and "caring."
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#214 | FateStayAlbion | Posted 11/16/2011 12:27:49 PM | message detail
#215 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/16/2011 12:27:52 PM | message detail
Whoa, Solid/Liquid starting to bleed percentage pretty badly now.

Kinda weird how Raiden/Vamp beat Frog/Magus's ASV and it looks like Crono/Lavos are beating Solid/Liquid's.
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#216 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/16/2011 12:30:58 PM | message detail
Yesterday's chart:

Time | Crashtex | Pacblink | Votes
0:05 | 31.04% | 68.96% | 654
1:00 | 34.27% | 65.73% | 4138
2:00 | 33.55% | 66.45% | 2569
3:00 | 37.65% | 62.35% | 1822
4:00 | 37.08% | 62.92% | 1416
5:00 | 39.95% | 60.05% | 1239
6:00 | 41.26% | 58.74% | 1219
7:00 | 37.07% | 62.93% | 1408
8:00 | 34.99% | 65.01% | 1852
9:00 | 38.44% | 61.56% | 2115
10:00 | 35.75% | 64.25% | 2073
11:00 | 37.27% | 62.73% | 2066
12:00 | 37.27% | 62.73% | 1940

Crash does much better after those first two hours, but that opening vote killed him pretty badly.
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#217 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/16/2011 12:46:35 PM | message detail
You know, I just realized that Nightmare, Siegfried, and Ramza have all had matches with Riku. Siegfried and Ramza performed nearly equally on him, but Nightmare outdid both of them by 5%~ or so.

I think the main thing that's giving me pause here is the lack of 1-on-1 data for Nightmare. In both of his appearances, he was put into a "Noble Nine vs. two other fodder characters" first round, followed by "Noble Niner vs. two pretty strong characters" in the second round. His performances from round to round kind of vary as a result.

Still, he put up 43%~ on Riku in 2007 and about the same number on Frog in 2008. He got 30%~ on Snake and Samus in their first round matches, but he went down a good bit on them from round 1 to round 2, so it's hard to say.

This match keeps giving me pause. Honestly, FF rivalries haven't looked that great this contest, so I don't know if I'm more worried about Ramza/Delita winning just because they're FF, or if I'm just worried that Nightmare is overrated.
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#218 | TRE Public Account | Posted 11/16/2011 1:00:43 PM | message detail
Keep in mind Ramza had a night match with Riku. Also IIRC all the KH characters looked worse than before in 2010.
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#219 | Big Bob | Posted 11/16/2011 1:01:03 PM | message detail
I'm very confident in the Soulcalibur duo. Ramza is barely recognizable as is, and only people who've actually played FFT would know who Delita is. Nightmare and Seigfried are both fairly recognizable, even if you haven't played their games.

Also: RAMZA LOST TO HOGGER.
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#220 | Yami_no_Geimu | Posted 11/16/2011 1:04:12 PM | message detail | (edited)
So who should I chose here? sigfried/night or ramza/delita?
Okay next. Hitler/William whatever(wtf game is that?) or Sora/Riku?
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#221 | TRE Public Account | Posted 11/16/2011 1:06:09 PM | message detail
Siegfried/Nightmare is the favourite but it's hard to get a good read on their strength. Barring shenanigans, Sora/Riku should be way stronger than Blazkowicz/Adolf especially in a day match.
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#222 | Pizzaknight | Posted 11/16/2011 1:15:26 PM | message detail
It feels lame being one of the perfect brackets that got busted by Crash/Cortex losing. By the time I realized I was underestimating Pac-Man, it was too late, and the brackets were locked in. At least I had the chance to correct myself with the battle pick. =P

Anyway, Soul Calibur V is a couple of months away from its release, and I was already feeling safe about picking Nightmare/Siegfried before I even realized this. The dudes with big swords will be fine.
#223 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 11/16/2011 1:18:10 PM | message detail
I'm not worried about the Ramza match... pic factor should be heavily in favour of the SC guys, and fighting rivalries have done well so far (well, Ryu/Ken and Sub-Zero/Scorp, anyway). Nightmare also looks to be the strongest of the four with ease.
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#224 | IngmarBirdman | Posted 11/16/2011 1:18:30 PM | message detail
It's a pure fodder match but I think you have to side with Nightmare. Higher seed, playrate of Soul Calibur games over FFT, appearance advantage, while everything else seems about equal. Could fluctuate depending on how people perceive the rivalry. The potential for an upset or close match is there relative to the other R1 matches though.
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#225 | Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 11/16/2011 1:23:58 PM | message detail
Crono above 40%.Didn't expected that.It seems people still like his game.Amazing.Also it is fun that if what Part said comes out Crono will be top 5 even though he lost in the first round!And in the previous contest he lost on the first fround and he was still top 10!Amazing for a guy that loses in the first match,eh?
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#226 | FateStayAlbion | Posted 11/16/2011 1:27:30 PM | message detail
Hitler/William whatever(wtf game is that?)

This makes me sad that people don't even know one of the most played and influential games in the industries history.

"Wolfenstein 3D is a video game that is generally regarded by critics and gaming journalists as having both popularized the first-person shooter genre on the PC and created the basic archetype upon which all subsequent games of the same genre would be built."
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#227 | GloriousSweater | Posted 11/16/2011 1:33:12 PM | message detail
Warned for threatening to castrate someone over the 7.5 review. Way to ****ing go mods.
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#228 | TRE Public Account | Posted 11/16/2011 1:41:25 PM | message detail
This makes me sad that people don't even know one of the most played and influential games in the industries history.

"Wolfenstein 3D is a video game that is generally regarded by critics and gaming journalists as having both popularized the first-person shooter genre on the PC and created the basic archetype upon which all subsequent games of the same genre would be built."


Is B.J. Blazkowicz supposed to be an immediately recognizable name or at least immediately connectable to Wolfenstein.
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#229 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 11/16/2011 1:43:24 PM | message detail
It's influential, sure, but how widely was Wolfenstein 3-D actually played back in the day?

From the same wikipedia article Albion quoted:

"By the end of 1993, sales of Wolfenstein 3D had reached over 100,000 units, vastly exceeding the shareware game sales record set by the developer's earlier Commander Keen series and providing id with a significantly higher profit margin than sales of the retail counterpart, Spear of Destiny."

Over 100,000 units? Oh my!

And from what I can tell, the levels released as shareware only consisted of the first of six episodes (which contained 10 levels each), where you don't even fight Hitler.

I would think Doom is probably a lot stronger than Wolfenstein 3-D, and it's contest history isn't exactly great:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1615
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1640
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3455

I don't think this pairing is going to have much legitimate strength.
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#230 | FateStayAlbion | Posted 11/16/2011 1:45:56 PM | message detail
Over 100,000 units? Oh my!

Thats only the shareware version. Its probably millions if you combine all the tons of re-releases it has had over the years.

I would think Doom is probably a lot stronger than Wolfenstein 3-D, and it's contest history isn't exactly great:

It is stronger. I'm not saying Wolfenstein 3D will be strong, but its just sad people don't know the game that created the most popular genre in gaming these days.
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#231 | TRE Public Account | Posted 11/16/2011 1:47:02 PM | message detail
Not knowing who B.J. Blazkowicz is isn't the same as not knowing what Wolfenstein 3D is.
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#232 | red sox 777 | Posted 11/16/2011 1:49:24 PM | message detail
Great (and pretty realistic) scenario for Crono:

This ends at 60/40
Snakes challenge Cloud/Seph but come just short (52/48)
Cloud/Seph challenge Link but come just short (52/48)
Link crushes Mario (62/38)

Unless Mario/Bowser somehow struggle in a match before the finals, that should put Crono at #5 in the stats. Heck, depending on how close the Snake/Cloud/Link matches are and how badly Link beats Mario, he could end up at #4, higher than anyone in the bracket's top half.


It's usually not particularly impressive for Crono to finish ahead of Mario in the x-stats if Mario has to face Link directly. Crono should beat Mario in that situation. Although, in this contest, he's saddled with Lavos as a partner, so that would indeed be very impressive.

I think the main problem with that scenario is that Cloud/Seph vs. Snake/Snake isn't going to go like Cloud/Snake. Sephiroth really completely outclasses Liquid, the Snakes would be doing very well to avoid an Ulti-style blowout in my opinion.
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#233 | Yami_no_Geimu | Posted 11/16/2011 2:10:57 PM | message detail

From: FateStayAlbion | Posted: 11/16/2011 4:27:30 PM | #226
This makes me sad


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#234 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/16/2011 2:31:17 PM | message detail

From: TRE Public Account | #231
Not knowing who B.J. Blazkowicz is isn't the same as not knowing what Wolfenstein 3D is.


Bingo. I know of Wolfenstein. I'd never heard of this guy because this contest.
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#235 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/16/2011 2:44:56 PM | message detail
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Are Pac-man and Crash typically bad vote draws? Regardless of it you like them, I would have expected them to draw in votes just because everyone knows them.


Crash is a bad vote draw, don't know about Pac-Man. In the last Character Battle, Hayabusa/Crash had the worst vote total for a night match in that contest.
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#236 | TheCodeisBosco | Posted 11/16/2011 3:01:11 PM | message detail | (edited)
From the looks of it, vote trends have stayed very static today. Really makes you wonder how Frog and Magus got their asses kicked by Raiden/Vamp during the ASV hours.
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#237 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 11/16/2011 3:06:10 PM | message detail
I can only think that perhaps Raiden/Vamp draw mostly on the MGS4 playership, which should be a bit younger.
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#238 | thok3 | Posted 11/16/2011 3:20:09 PM | message detail
I'm glad somebody mentioned that B.J.-Adolf was Wolfenstein 3D, because I thought it was actually a Bionic Commando rivalry.

What? Hitler's is the final boss of Bionic Commando. Or at least he is in Japan.
#239 | red sox 777 | Posted 11/16/2011 3:38:41 PM | message detail
Crono's day vote has always been better than Frog/Magus's.
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#240 | UItimaterializer | Posted 11/16/2011 4:11:02 PM | message detail

From: GloriousSweater | #227
Warned for threatening to castrate someone over the 7.5 review. Way to ****ing go mods.


That's nothing compared to this site modding people for saying everyone who helped cover up the Penn State nonsense should be fired and then properly punished. Only on GameFAQs does an institution that's likely raped 40 kids (or more) get held in higher standing than those who want the perpetrators properly punished for it.

This site's moderation staff is no longer defensible.
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#241 | IngmarBirdman | Posted 11/16/2011 4:48:58 PM | message detail
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/%281%29Solid_Snake_vs_%282%29Squall_Leonhart_2010

Hmm...
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#242 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 11/16/2011 4:52:35 PM | message detail
Okay, does Canada hate Solid Snake or do they love Crono? Because he's almost winning there.
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#243 | GloriousSweater | Posted 11/16/2011 4:55:22 PM | message detail
http://image.com.com/gamefaqs/images/rivals/rivals-29.jpg
http://image.com.com/gamefaqs/images/rivals/rivals-30.jpg
http://image.com.com/gamefaqs/images/rivals/rivals-31.jpg
http://image.com.com/gamefaqs/images/rivals/rivals-32.jpg

Ramza/Delita got their crappy boring art, and that pic still worries me. They just look... so RPG. And Nightmare looks like a big mound of wtf yet again. Doesn't anyone know how to make this guy resemble a... guy?
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#244 | KamikazePotato | Posted 11/16/2011 5:01:55 PM | message detail
Really disappointed my FFT pic wasn't chosen. It's way better than that one.
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#245 | IngmarBirdman | Posted 11/16/2011 5:05:35 PM | message detail
I can't make up my mind about Squall Seifer for the Oracle. Are people going to anti-vote them like they did FF7? Seems to me this match could be anywhere between a 70-80% win, depending on whether they are anti-voted and whether BlowoutFAQs makes its return here.
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#246 | thok3 | Posted 11/16/2011 5:06:36 PM | message detail
Huh. With those pics, Sora-Riku versus Hitler and Who Cares might be close.
#247 | red sox 777 | Posted 11/16/2011 5:08:22 PM | message detail
Canada loves Chrono Trigger.
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#248 | MeteorExF | Posted 11/16/2011 5:09:48 PM | message detail
Loves Chrono Trigger, is Canadian
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#249 | GrapefruitKing | Posted 11/16/2011 5:20:11 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #244
Really disappointed my FFT pic wasn't chosen. It's way better than that one.


what was your FFT pic?
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#250 | Bigwig_rah | Posted 11/16/2011 5:20:19 PM | message detail
Can we forget about the rivalry factor after today's match? Surely one of the best rivalries in gaming would be doing better against a complete non-rivalry if it existed.
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