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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1018
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Wow...I knew Chrono Trigger wasn't as nearly as strong as it used to be, but this is just embarassing! edit: I think this proves once and for all that multi-game rivalries>>>single-game rivalries. --- Thanks for reinforcing your stupidity, jerks. Einstein > You |
Yep, my bracket's boned. Frog/Magus may beat Chell/GlaDOS next round, but I don't see them beating Alucard/Dracula with a performance like this. Keep in mind that Raiden/Vamp was in the same vote-in poll with Yuna/Seymour. Fox/Wolf 60/40'd Yuna/Seymour, while Frog/Magus are piddling around in the mid 50s. --- http://i.minus.com/iH9vIGOBoyTQ2.gif |
I
switched between Frog/Magus, Chell/GlaDOS match so many times. I
switched it back to Frog/Magus at the end, like literally 1 hour before
the deadline. They better not choke. I have Alucard/Dracula winning the
division though. --- - |
Phoenix/Edgeworth to win division! --- Starcraft is my life, so without it I wouldn't exist. - Artosis |
It's
tough to say how strong Raiden/Vamp are, but this is still
disappointing for Frog/Magus. Site has really turned against Chrono
Trigger as of late. Snake's probably going to crush Crono. --- peace comes from within |
Phoenix/Edgeworth vs. Frog/Magus Who ya got? --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
From: KamikazePotato | #007 I'd take Raiden/Vamp over Gordon/Breen and feel pretty good about it, so Frog/Magus, I guess. --- http://img.imgcake.com/leonpngpe.png http://img.imgcake.com/squalloweenpngem.png |
I'll take Frog/Magus there. I'd take Raiden/Vamp over Gordon/Breen pretty easy. --- peace comes from within |
I'm missing the good ol' days of jrpgs... *Looks down in shame, turns away slowly, and quietly walks away.* --- ------ --------- |
Yeah,
it's sad to see such a disappointing performance. I bet if sprites
were used they would be doing quite a bit better, though. We (that is,
we folks who want Frog/Magus to get as far as possible) can always hope
they will get such an advantage by the time they face Alucard/Dracula. I
got team Alucard winning that in my bracket.... they didn't do quite as
well on Shepard/Soren as I had wanted, so I'll still give Frog/Magus a
small shot of winning in the third round. But too me it feels like
they're about as likely to lose to Chell/GlaDOS. --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
At least it's a day match. That should be good for a couple percentage points when we convert to 24 hour matches. --- 90s games > 00s games |
While we're at it...rank the losing rivalries in this division: Gordon/Breen Shepard/Saren Ness/Giygas Raiden/Vamp --- http://i.imgur.com/CbfFb.jpg |
From: red sox 777 | #012 It's not like MGS is a day vote stud! --- http://i.imgur.com/fe05x.png http://i.imgur.com/stNJf.png |
Does this mean Crono/Lavos > Frog/Magus? Crono/Magus would be stronger than them both probably. --- 90s games > 00s games |
From: red sox 777 | #015 It's looking very possible at this point. Wanna wait and see what Crono/Lavos do and what Frog/Magus do next round. --- "The great GF...Bahamut." "...GF? I...? Using my powers...It is you humans...I fear..." |
Good
lord, Frog/Magus have lost a lot of ground! They're at 56.58% now.
Chell/GlaDOS should probably be the slight favorite next round, at this
point; remember, Frogus is going up against the Portal duo during the
day. If Frogus does make it to the division final, though, there is a silver lining: they'll almost assuredly have a sprite pic, which could help them pull off a miracle against Aludrac. I'm not getting my hopes up for that scenario, but I suppose it's something to consider. --- "Claire likes to say 'You can be part of the problem, or part of the solution.' But I happen to believe you can be both." - Phil Dunphy |
From: LeonhartFour | #013 Shepard/Saren Raiden/Vamp Gordon/Breen Ness/Giygas And Frog is getting slain by this ASV. It is possible that we actually see him lose an hour today. --- My Japanese alter-ego. Hey all this is Bartz btw. |
From: TheCodeisBosco | #017 Its a 24 hour match --- My Japanese alter-ego. Hey all this is Bartz btw. |
KingButz posted... From: TheCodeisBosco | #017 Good lord, Frog/Magus have lost a lot of ground! They're at 56.58% now. Chell/GlaDOS should probably be the slight favorite next round, at this point; remember, Frogus is going up against the Portal duo during the day. Its a 24 hour match Wait, we're switching to 24-hour matches... in Round Two? >_> Still though, I'm having a harder and harder time picturing Frogus > ChellDOS. That ASV is going to be ugly. --- "Claire likes to say 'You can be part of the problem, or part of the solution.' But I happen to believe you can be both." - Phil Dunphy |
Wait, we're switching to 24-hour matches... in Round Two? >_> Yup! I am totally hyped for 24 hours of Mario/Bowser vs. Ike/Black Knight! --- Praise the Black Turtle, Game of the Decade Guru Champ. (Well, I never promised creativity, did I?!) |
Kotetsu534 posted... Wait, we're switching to 24-hour matches... in Round Two? >_> Yup! I am totally hyped for 24 hours of Mario/Bowser vs. Ike/Black Knight! Yikes, man. Really not sure what Bacon was thinking there. :\ I'm just glad R1 matches were twelve hours, though. 24 hours of Bartz/Guybrush and Terra/Vyse would have been cringe-worthy. --- "Claire likes to say 'You can be part of the problem, or part of the solution.' But I happen to believe you can be both." - Phil Dunphy |
Dat GlaDOS ASV is going to be brutal to Frog and Magus. They had better build up a good lead during the night. --- My Japanese alter-ego. Hey all this is Bartz btw. |
From: KingButz | #018 And Frog is getting slain by this ASV. It is possible that we actually see him lose an hour today. I feel I should point out they've still only lost one update so far. --- Ho hum. |
From: TheCodeisBosco | #022 I don't really see the problem with switching to 24 hour matches just because you're going to have some slaughters like Mario/Ike. 24 hour matches make for better matches as a whole than 12 hour matches, so I'm willing to go through some duds to get the better stuff. --- http://i52.tinypic.com/2zfiu09.gif http://i54.tinypic.com/10729w2.gif |
From: nintendogirl1 | #024 While I noticed this, the possibility still exists, even if it is unlikely. --- My Japanese alter-ego. Hey all this is Bartz btw. |
Nah, it's not going to happen. Even at this point, Frog/Magus are still doing 55/45 hours. --- "So cold. I am always by your side." "There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!" |
I'm just glad R1 matches were twelve hours, though. 24 hours of Bartz/Guybrush and Terra/Vyse would have been cringe-worthy. I'd rather have 24 hours of those matches then more POTDs. --- "Ahem! There is *sand* on my *boot*!"--Kefka This is Yesmar. |
Europe
is favouring ChellDOS a lot more than Ness and Frogus.I can see them
pulling it off or it being really close.If this current match had been a
night match Raiden and Vamp would've been a lot closer IMO. --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v303/Shaneh87/Funny/siggy.jpg |
From: LOLContests | #028 ZING! Also, http://image.com.com/gamefaqs/images/rivals/rivals-25.jpg http://image.com.com/gamefaqs/images/rivals/rivals-26.jpg --- "Rate hike! Rate hike! Tra, la, la!" accompanied by a kangaroo impersonation does convey that Palmer is an idiot. -TVTropes |
Meh, this is MGS strength. It's expected. Next round they'll be doing much better. Still, yeah, it shows it's gonna be a good fight. One of the best fights in the contest I think. I mean the Castlevania fight of course. |
TheCodeisBosco | Posted 11/14/2011 4:15:43 PM | message detail | quote Yikes, man. Really not sure what Bacon was thinking there. :\ We still get a 47 day contest out of all this, compared to a normal 63 day contest if everything was 24 hours. The 47 days doesn't count the 24 hour period between the semifinals and the final match where we don't have any matches at all, although a bonus match is still possible for that day. As of right now, night match vote totals currently have an average of 29280, so bringing that average up to 30000 would require the last 4 night matches to average at least 32158 votes or more. Cloud/Sephiroth could certainly break that number and probably Squall/Seifer as well, but I probably expect Crash/Cortex and Dante/Vergil to get under 30000 votes. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as BlAcK TuRtLe, Guru Champ! |
Lloyd and Kratos look great. Too bad about their opponent. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
I
don't think Portal did as well as they really needed to against
Earthbound in order to beat Frogus, but I would certainly entertain
Phoenix as the second strongest at this rate. --- "Go get me Jared...from Subway!" -- CM Punk 30 Days Remaining ... that Black Turtle, Guru champion has my sig. |
The
only match I care about in Round 1 now is Team Crash vs. Team Pac. Team
Ivalice will lose their souls, and Team Hitler will lose another war,
even if 4chan launches a blitzkrieg. |
From: KamikazePotato | #033 Hey wtf, I made the other picture. KH models rock face. --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.· http://img.imgcake.com/newershadow/plumpunchgifum.gif |
From: UltimaterializerX | #036 I personally don't think any KH models look better than their original FF counterparts. --- "Why must we always choose between certain death and probable death?" "I'm in an epic battle to the death, FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF!" |
I meant too bad about their opponents being potentially the winner of the contest. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
I wish Kratos/Zeus had a real path. switch them with Ness/Gigyas and it would be a crazy debate. --- xyzzy |
From: UltimaterializerX | #030 Don Paolo looks like an evil version of Nigel Thornberry. --- Thanks for reinforcing your stupidity, jerks. Einstein > You |
I
just noticed that Arthas barely edged Lloyd in a vote-in poll. direct
Cloud/Link comparisons through bottom tier fodder? hell yes. let's do
this tonight. --- xyzzy |
Cloud/Seph antivotes will probably keep them from looking good --- .... |
They can still manage 80%+ even with anti-votes. --- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/26leonpngat.png http://img.imgcake.com/nio/daigohadoupnguj.png |
This'll be ugly. I feel like we've seen Final Fantasy vs. Fails before and it was brutal. --- Game of the decade? More like Guru of the decade mirite? |
From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #044 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2792 That's the only poll they've ever shared. --- http://www.gifsoup.com/view/593815/frasier-and-niles-dance-o.gif |
Oh yeah they'll manage 80% for sure. |
Tales of in second place, LOL. |
The
Lloyd/Kratos pic is pretty good. Never cared about Cloud/Seph so no
image will make me think anything positive of them. The match is going
to be very ugly for Lloyd/Kratos. --- http://myanimelist.net/animelist/swordz9 |
Match XXV: (1) Cloud Strife/Sephiroth vs. (8) Lloyd Irving/Kratos Aurion Previous Contest Cloud Strife – 2010 71.72% against Ridley 71.99% against Chris Redfield 69.93% against Captain Falcon 65.98% against Ryu 52.81% against Samus Aran 52.09% against Solid Snake 46.46% against Link Sephiroth – 2010 71.80% against Marth 62.66% against Vincent Valentine 52.88% against Missingno 56.16% against Tifa Lockhart 47.04% against Solid Snake Lloyd Irving – 2010 32.75% against Fox McCloud Kratos Aurion – 2010 45.42% against Sackboy Analysis Going by individual strength Cloud and Sephiroth is by far the strongest pair in the contest. That’s what happens when you have two noble nine characters pairing up. Of course this doesn’t mean that they will crush everyone and in fact they aren’t even considered the favourites to win the contest as of yet. This will mark their first step in their bid to win the contest. In the vote-ins Lloyd and Kratos were barely able to make the contest and given that the characters around them have been horribly crushed the same fate could be in store for them. Some people suggest that there might be RPG SFF in this match, but personally I feel that we are going a bit too far with calling everything SFF. Even if it did exist I would claim it would be a lot less in this match given that the pairs are rather separated from their console origins and thus will probably have less overlap. The only thing that is stopping this match from getting the biggest blowout of the contest is anti-votes. As seen at the beginning of matches last contest anti-votes were a big problem for Cloud and Sephiroth. If it shows up again this contest it will mask the true strength of Cloud and Sephiroth and we would have to wait a few rounds to see if they have a chance against Link and Ganondorf. charmander6000’s Bracket: Cloud Strife/Sephiroth > Lloyd Irving/Kratos Aurion charmander6000’s Prediction: Cloud Strife/Sephiroth wins, 85.30% - 14.70% --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Rivalry Rumble: 21/22 Today: Chell/GlaDOS & Frog/Magus |
If
rivalries matter, and these are two N9 characters having a rivalry, I
got to go with a bigger blowout than Link and Mario. Considering the
competition can't even top Midna. Then again, Edgeworth couldn't top Midna either. --- http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=5364544 |