GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1017
Chell/GLaDOS
is a modern-day series-inspiring rivalry while they -- especially
GLaDOS -- have multiple reasons to improve this year (Portal 2's quality
+ it giving her more legitimate face-time + it giving her recognizable
pictures for once, not to mention Portal 1's continued success). I'm
expecting her to show Gordon who the strongest Valve-character really
is. Ness/Giygas suffers the same struggle Captain Falcon/Black Shadow faced: their rivalry comes from the game they originated from, not the game its lead is actually liked for. Ness is the "powerhouse" on his team, yet his picture (while cool) completely downsizes him; he's a tiny sprite in the corner with his back to the camera. If Giygas is carrying your picture, you're in trouble -- remember the Villain Contest? Chell outdoes that, and I'd wager easily. That Ness was stronger than GLaDOS in the last one-on-one contest shouldn't meant much, nor should this Western-character fear. GLaDOS was always the star of Portal (unlike Ezio), Chell's been her rival the full series (unlike Saren), and Portal's potentially a bigger series than any other Western-series represented in this contest anyway. If we can really just lump Western-characters together like this (you can't), then remember the largest Western-game of the year JUST came out. Chell/GLaDOS are taking this. --- http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3492/eponaharr.jpg Nominate E P O N A. |
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I dunno I can still see Ness winning I almost took him in my bracket honestly --- Want to listen to more video game music every day? Check out the VGMusicoftheDay Youtube Channel sometime! |
I think even more important about Chell is that she represents the player. In Portal 1 at least, the relationship between Chell and GlaDOS can be more readily understood as the relationship between you and GlaDOS. And it was pretty effing sweet. |
There
were always 2 matches in this division that I wasn't worried about in
the slightest. One is Frog/Magus > Raiden/Vamp. The other is
Chell/GLaDOS > Ness/Giygas. I really don't see the Earthound guys
pulling that one off. Ness would probably lose against GLaDOS 1-on-1 after Portal 2 and free Portal. And we've seen how characters who are strong because of Smash perform when their rival doesn't have a Smash presence. Don't overthink this one guys, the Portal duo won't drop that match. --- There ain't no gettin' offa this "Cloud/Sephiroth > Link/Ganondorf" hype-train we're on! Next stop: killing the Tales rivalry |
Pokemon trainer logic is still going to make Chell rather weak. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Rivalry Rumble: 20/20 Today: Gordon Freeman/Dr. Breen & Alucard/Dracula |
I'll
be honest guys. Chell is pre-HL2 Gordon, nothing more. That has its
merits from a gameplay and storytelling perspective, but isn't a very
good strategy if you want to be popular. That said, GLaDOS carries it. Also I'm number 50 on the battle leaderboard so good. So glad I changed to Alucard, as well. Now as long as we don't see any Crash/Ramza related upsets I should be perfect through round 1. --- Something something something ^Poorly disguised anti-caps sig |
Charmander
also touched on something about Chell's recognition: people may not
know the name Chell so well (Portal 2-fans are more likely, but still
not easily), but the girl with the Portal-gun and bars on the back of
her legs are pretty identifiable to the fanbase. You see her a lot for a
FPS-game thanks to portals, and being a silent protagonist hasn't hurt
Link or Crono. She might be pic-dependent, but Portal-fans have definitely seen and acknowledged her as themselves at one point. EDIT: Steam's also advertised her with GLaDOS a lot on their front page this year, so both her individual recognition and their collective rivalry have hit good face-time. --- http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3492/eponaharr.jpg Nominate E P O N A. |
I hope that later TRE posts the stats of the brackets. --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
I'm
way more nervous about Chell/Ness than Phoenix or Alucard. I don't like
people making definitive statements about the Portal duo. they're
totally unpredictable with a huge range, if you asked me. --- add the c and back away iphonesience |
It
may be making you nervous because 3/4th of the talk has centered around
the Portal duo. Let's discuss the match-winning power of Ness/Giygas! --- Yoblazer: http://i32.tinypic.com/zlf1w7.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
Giygas
is Giygas, but I don't see what's wrong with Ness. He's not great, but
to say he's incapable of winning matches ignores all the matches he's,
you know, won. Let me put it this way: Ness looked about as strong as Gordon last year, based on easy direct comparisons. Do you take GlaDOS>Gordon? --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
Man,
just reading "match-winning power of Ness/Giygas" cracked me up. It
probably shouldn't have, but I can't help it. I'm certain they lose that
one. --- There ain't no gettin' offa this "Cloud/Sephiroth > Link/Ganondorf" hype-train we're on! Next stop: killing the Tales rivalry |
KamikazePotato posted... Do you take GlaDOS>Gordon? HaRRicH posted... I'm expecting her to show Gordon who the strongest Valve-character really is. --- http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3492/eponaharr.jpg Nominate E P O N A. |
Maybe
not in a direct match, but indirectly, I don't see why not. Let's put
it this way - I easily take today's GlaDOS over Big Daddy. The last time
we saw GlaDOS, Valve had yet to offer Portal for free, let alone
release Portal 2. She might have more reason to boost since the last CB
than anyone. --- Yoblazer: http://oi53.tinypic.com/2hd0dh1.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
KamikazePotato posted... Giygas is Giygas, but I don't see what's wrong with Ness. He's not great, but to say he's incapable of winning matches ignores all the matches he's, you know, won. Let me put it this way: Ness looked about as strong as Gordon last year, based on easy direct comparisons. Do you take GlaDOS>Gordon? This isn't about 1v1 matches, though. --- PSN - Aevio "I'm on a Goomba." - BlackMageJawa |
From: Safer Sephiroth 777 | #108 We're supposed to get those stats, because he won't be here, right? Somebody was supposed to do that. --- http://img.imgcake.com/drakeryn/tiroalecjpgap.jpg http://img.imgcake.com/drakeryn/alecjpgyt.jpg |
And
Ness was overrated in the x-stats. Ness does not beat Tidus. This is
obvious and we even have a good idea of why he was overrated. --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] |
You're
right, this isn't a 1v1. Giygas will drag Ness down further, by
removing his Smash fanbase, which is something like 80% of his fanbase. --- There ain't no gettin' offa this "Cloud/Sephiroth > Link/Ganondorf" hype-train we're on! Next stop: killing the Tales rivalry |
Yeah,
I think Daddy overperformed on Tifa (it was a day match and a terrible
picture for her). Ness is behind as many as four overperformances in the
stats - the lucky little turd. Even when I call his matches right, he
finds a way to be a pain in the neck. --- Yoblazer: http://i32.tinypic.com/zlf1w7.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
Gordon and Ness are one character removed. You can't call X-stat weirdness there. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
From: Ultimaphazon | #118 Didn't stop Ike from winning. --- Smurf, the cream of Sonic fanboyism |
__Smurf__ posted... Didn't stop Ike from winning. I'll take Ike > Ness, and the Portal-series > one fight from Conker. --- http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3492/eponaharr.jpg Nominate E P O N A. |
Well,
guess this is the end of the contest for me. Not sure why the only 3
upsets I took were in the same fourpack, but whatever. Knew from the
beginning that this division would be the end of me. Now to watch X/Zero and Ryu/Ken hopefully wreak some havoc. --- Game of the decade? More like Guru of the decade mirite? |
Ike
is more well known in Fire Emblem than Earthbound/F-Zero and besides he
got less than 60% on Conker/Poo which is just terrible --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Rivalry Rumble: 20/20 Today: Gordon Freeman/Dr. Breen & Alucard/Dracula |
oh
I'm not nervous because of arguments. I'm nervous about an
unrecognizable character vs. a Nintendo character. Ness doesn't have to
be strong - he just has to be recognizable when the opponent isn't.
that's his trump card in this match. that's why nobody is arguing about
Ness - you know what he is. Glados hasn't even had a non-fourway match. --- add the c and back away iphonesience |
Shepard
is doing pretty damn well in Europe (easily his best region). I wonder
if he would have actually been helped by a night match. --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/25z1non.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
From: transcience | #125 She's had two. She crushed Fawful and got crushed by Kirby. Still, I think she did pretty well for two years ago. She's almost certainly a step or two above that now. --- Yoblazer: http://i44.tinypic.com/5nw45i.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
I forgot about that. Fawful doesn't even count! --- add the c and back away iphonesience |
Don't
even understand how people can begin to think Glados/Ness is debatable.
But I guess in a contest this predictable people gotta find something
to debate. --- Inter-planetary-mega-stellar-hydro-static. There's no gravity between us. Our love is automatic. |
We
don't have to look very far for Portal support - GotD offers great
evidence. Look at what Portal did there - 45% on Resident Evil 4. It's a
step above Mass Effect, Bioshock, Assassin's Creed, or God of War, and
that was before it became a series. Depending on how strong ME2 actually
is, Portal may be the strongest Western series around right now
(pre-Skyrim, I'll admit), and the most universally acclaimed and beloved
new series of this generation. The fact that it only has two or three
characters to push helps all the more. It doesn't feature a huge
ensemble cast like Mass Effect, and unlike The Elder Scrolls, it, like,
actually has characters. If there is one gaming IP that really benefits
from Western devs/Western gaming dominating this gen, it's Portal. --- Yoblazer: http://i33.tinypic.com/ml36gl_th.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
nobody doubts that. but this isn't about Portal! this is Glados and Chell. --- add the c and back away iphonesience |
I
think Portal in general is being overrated by some, but I do think
Glados/Chell will be good to beat Ness for a couple of reasons already
outlined -- Portal 2 recently released + Giygas is awful and the rivalry
isn't even that great on its own. --- peace comes from within |
From: AlecTrevelyan006 | #024 No 1 seed has ever had a prediction percentage below 75.91% until today. --- http://www.gifsoup.com/view/593815/frasier-and-niles-dance-o.gif |
Portal
would be nothing without the strength of its writing and characters.
It's why a four hour tech demo has more fans than Mass Effect or
AUDITORE DI FIRENZE. People care about Portal's story and characters. A
lot more people than the ones who got nostalgic about the Giygas match
pic. This thing is locked up and done. Being Nintendo isn't a guaranteed
win anymore, even against Western stuff. It sure wasn't guaranteed for
Ness last year. And Chell destroys - DESTROYS - Giygas. --- Yoblazer: http://i32.tinypic.com/zlf1w7.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
I've
a bad feeling about Ness tbh. I'm not sold that this is a particularly
strong rivalry and somewhat apprehensive that the drop in votals has
modern western games in general which were soaring the past few years
down lower than we realise right now. The match itself has similarities
to DK/Ezio. --- Smurf, the cream of Sonic fanboyism |
From: __Smurf__ | #135 Eh, nah, I don't really see it. Today's match is like DK/Ezio part two, though. --- "The great GF...Bahamut." "...GF? I...? Using my powers...It is you humans...I fear..." |
From: PartOfYourWorld | #134 Nothing destroys Giygas and I care about Ezio, dammit. --- http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/6.gif |
Yeah,
give me Ezio over both Portal guys combined (non-contest talk here!),
he's a much better and more interesting character. Portal's popularity
on GameFAQs, and the Internet in general, make sense, though, since it
plays so much into Internet culture. I still wouldn't call it the most
popular or universally acclaimed new series (or Western series) this
generation, but yeah. --- peace comes from within |
Yesterday's chart: Time | Phoedgey | GFDBNW | Votes 0:05 | 62.19% | 37.81% | 693 1:00 | 58.02% | 41.98% | 4681 2:00 | 56.57% | 43.43% | 3134 3:00 | 57.60% | 42.40% | 2408 4:00 | 55.74% | 44.26% | 1819 5:00 | 58.37% | 41.63% | 1715 6:00 | 58.73% | 41.27% | 1507 7:00 | 56.63% | 43.37% | 1335 8:00 | 54.66% | 45.34% | 1619 9:00 | 56.45% | 43.55% | 1853 10:00 | 55.32% | 44.68% | 2106 11:00 | 55.03% | 44.97% | 2337 12:00 | 54.33% | 45.67% | 2203 Phoenix and Edgey actually don't fall off too badly after the first hour. They even had a couple of night hours that were better than their first hour! --- http://i43.tinypic.com/dgwh0.gif http://www.majhost.com/gallery/atukam/OHWD/snownd.gif |
Phoenix
has made it. I wonder how high he can go with more console exposure.
Capcom surely realizes how popular he is among hardcore gamers and will
probably take advantage of that. --- Yoblazer: http://i32.tinypic.com/zlf1w7.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
okay, more important talk what's stronger, Shepard/Saren or Raiden/Vamp? --- xyzzy |
I'm
gonna say...Raiden/Vamp. They did well enough in that vote-in to make
me feel like they're not totally useless, and Vamp may do more for
Raiden than Saren does for Shepard. I don't know enough about ME1 to
talk about Saren's role. And while I think people may not like Vamp very much individually, I think they may recognize him as a "good" rival for Raiden. But I'm not sure. --- http://www.gifsoup.com/view/593815/frasier-and-niles-dance-o.gif |
There's a bad matchup. I'm not sure who I would say is more popular, but my first instinct was Raiden/Vamp. --- peace comes from within |
they're not even rivals. they almost have nothing to do with each besides their choreographed fight in MGS4. but I think on this site, MGS2/4 is just a bigger deal than ME1. Saren didn't strike me as being as bad as people are talking about here, but he doesn't have the same well-known qualities that the MGS guys do. Shepard beats everyone in the poll though. --- xyzzy |
I
know they're not really "rivals," but Raiden/Vamp have some pretty
memorable clashes in MGS2 and MGS4 for it to be liked enough to beat
Shepard/Saren, methinks. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
anyway,
Alucard has taken a somewhat debatable match into near-doubling
territory during his worst time of day. I'd say this is a good result
and at the very least suggests he'll be tough competition for Frog/Magus
should they get there. this whole division reminds me of the Devil
Division from 2005 and Magus's inclusion in both scares me a little. --- xyzzy |
Personally I don't understand whats so bad about Saren. -Mass Effect Spoilers- He is a good guy at the beginning, and he betrays you and is then your constant nemesis the entire game, and you fight him at the end of the game in one of my favorite fights of this generation. How is it any weaker of a rivalry than a lot of the other Hero/Villain rivalries in this contest? Its no worse then say, Ganondorf in OoT. Except people have nostalgia for Ganon I guess... -end Mass Effect spoilers- --- http://raptr.com/badge/cf898f37d9c30ef120ada6c35e636ad3/fs.png http://myanimelist.net/signature/RyanSaotome.png |
It's
not even an issue with Saren as much as he's not involved in the more
popular game. MGS is just a bigger series, and we saw from GOTD that
most of the MGS games are well liked to almost the same extent,
surprisingly so (although I'm thinking you can't really take those SOTC
matches beyond the MGS2 match at complete face value due to probable
rallying). There's not really a "weak link" in the series. The only
issue for Raiden/Vamp could be is that they're not in MGS1. --- "Why must we always choose between certain death and probable death?" "I'm in an epic battle to the death, FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF!" |
The only bad thing about Saren is that he was only in ME1, which most of the site apparently doesn't care about. Otherwise, he's a good rival for Shepard. Just not as iconic as Draculalucard. Awesome that I made it up to #3 on the leaderboard, even though all I did was just enter my bracket early and promptly forgot about it. Just a shame it has to end tonight. Still prefer my WCC > Tidus pick catapulting me on the leaderboard in 2008 and then whatever the hell I did to make it on in 2009, though. --- Current Let's Play: Final Fantasy IV (FF2US) http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3445328 |
