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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1017
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From: KamikazePotato | #431 The fact that there are shades of grey for all those characters is what makes MGS such a good series. I'd actually say Volgin is one of the only out-and-out villains in the series. Anyway I wouldn't say it's not so much about special treatment but the order in which things happen. MG/MG2 happens and BB is despicable villain, then MGS3 happens and we see Big Boss before he was Big Boss, back when he was just an expy for Solid Snake, but more entertaining (probably just because of better writing). The plot twist at the end gives us just an indication of what could have caused him to have turned into the "bad guy" in MG1/2, then MGS4 comes along and explains about his war with Zero. So you've got the core, his bastardy activities in MG1/2, but it gets surrounded by stuff that makes his actions completely sympathetic. Meanwhile you have Liquid in MGS1 and Solidus in MGS2. You only ever got snatches of why they're sympathetic - it's enough to make them compelling villains but never enough to make them blur the line between villain and hero like Big Boss does. So yeah, Big Boss in MG 1 and 2 is just a villain. MGS1 comes along and makes hints about good stuff he had done, but MGS3 shows he was at one point a very good guy. Liquid, on the other hand, seems to have grown up bitter and twisted, and Solidus killed Raiden's parents for no good reason. Are they sympathetic? Yeah, but ultimately they're still villainous bastards. --- http://i.imgur.com/LjoWT.png |
Frog/Magus getting buried with asv --- .... |
As
someone who still hasn't played any of the MGS series except 1, mind
taking it somewhere else guys? It is on the list of things to do. I've
just had to skip most of the last 2 pages. --- Ta. |
http://oi41.tinypic.com/flapzk.jpg This took me a while, but I'm still not too happy with it. I'll probably fiddle with the background - try to make it brighter. --- Yoblazer: http://i33.tinypic.com/ml36gl_th.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
At first I thought the background is a little much blurry, but actually I like it at a second glance. --- ------ --------- |
Yeah,
I ripped it straight from a YouTube video, which probably explains why
the quality is a big lacking. I have some ideas to improve it. CT pics are fun. Too bad I joined the fanboy coalition when these guys struggle to win matches. Crono made Mario his ***** once, ya know! --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/25z1non.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
Big
Boss is fascinating to me because of his fall from grace. I won't make
any sort of excuses trying to say that Big Boss is the hero of the
series, because he's not. But it's actually the contrast between Big Boss and Snake that makes both of them so fascinating. They faced similar upbringings, backgrounds, circumstances, and difficulties. The difference was ultimately their reaction to it. Big Boss could have been what Solid Snake ultimately became, and he went the other way. That's what makes me love them both. That being said, the reason I loved Snake so much after MGS1 was because his developmental arc reminded me of Squall's own in FFVIII, so it didn't take much for me to become endeared to him. Big Boss is more antihero or even "tragic hero" than villain because of that though. Antiheroes are usually some of the most fascinating characters anyway, so that's not a knock against Big Boss. --- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." |
Chell/GLaDOS
VS Frog/Magus looks to be good again. I'd take Raiden/Vamp >
Ness/Giygas, but it wouldn't be an easy win. AlucarDracula should be
the favorites to win the division from what we've seen so far. --- http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3492/eponaharr.jpg Nominate E P O N A. |
Nah, Raiden/Vamp win that one pretty easily. They might get closer to Chell/GlaDOS than to Ness/Giygas. --- http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/8718/leonflowchart.png |
Yesterday's chart: Time | ChellDOS | Nessgas | Votes 0:05 | 59.35% | 40.65% | 775 1:00 | 58.47% | 41.53% | 5121 2:00 | 58.29% | 41.71% | 3160 3:00 | 60.99% | 39.01% | 2284 4:00 | 60.93% | 39.07% | 1643 5:00 | 62.35% | 37.65% | 1368 6:00 | 60.37% | 39.63% | 1350 7:00 | 58.58% | 41.42% | 1637 8:00 | 57.28% | 42.72% | 1964 9:00 | 57.49% | 42.51% | 2244 10:00 | 58.68% | 41.32% | 2299 11:00 | 59.69% | 40.31% | 2260 12:00 | 58.69% | 41.31% | 2089 As expected, Chell/GlaDOS get a night vote, and Ness/Giygas do a little better during the morning hours. --- "So cold. I am always by your side." "There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!" |
Definitely.
Raiden isn't a chump anymore and I think Vamp is actually worth
something. Raiden beats Ness out solo, and Vamp is worth a lot more than
Giygas. Vamp probably could double him, in my opinion. --- :> |
From: vcharon | #463 Eh, I don't know if I'd go that far. Raiden may not be a "chump," but he's not that great either. He still almost lost to Sam Fisher once upon a time. But I think MGS fans seem to like this pairing more than we expected. They won that vote-in outright, and they're getting 45% here. Yeah, this says bad things about Frog/Magus, but I think we ought to give a little credit to Raiden/Vamp, too. --- http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/8718/leonflowchart.png |
Sam Fisher beats Carl Johnson, imo --- :> |
So, now that we're basically through the division of death, what are everyone's predictions? I'm thinking Alucard>Frog in the finals, but I wouldn't be surprised to see GLaDOS make it to the finals instead. I think the vampires should be a clear favorite to win the division though, regardless of their opponent. Although, who really knows for sure how much Shepard/Saren were worth? --- There ain't no gettin' offa this "Cloud/Sephiroth > Link/Ganondorf" hype-train we're on! Next stop: killing the Tales rivalry |
Alucard/Dracula
could take it after all. That said, it's still anyone's game. Well,
maybe not GLaDOS/Chell, they had probably the weakest loser and only put
on an average performance with a presumably favourable timeslot.
Likewise I wanna say Raiden/Vamp is the strongest of the losers, and one
of the few vote-in winners to pull its weight. I wanna take Alucard,
but I'm cautious. I'm guessing division ranking probably looks like: Alucard/Dracula Frog/Magus Phoenix/Edgeworth Raiden/Vamp GLaDOS/Chell Gordon/Breen Shepard/Saren Ness/Giygas But not much variance at all. --- Something something something ^Poorly disguised anti-caps sig |
While
Shepard/Saren is still a enigma to figure out, I don't see much reason
for them to be weaker than Ness/Giygas. I'd take Shepard > Ness, ME1
>> EB, the ME-series crushes the Mother-series, and I don't know
that Ness/Giygas has any rivalry-advantage over them. Despite that,
AlucarDracula beat Shepard/Saren ~4% worse than Chell/GLaDOS beat
Ness/Giygas. Between that and AlucarDracula having the most games of any rivalry left in the division (a stat favoring most of our winners so far), it's on the winner of ChellDOS/Frogus to impress in R2 to really get back into it. Phoenix/Edgeworth may scare the vampires too, but then, I don't know they're the weakest rivalry left in the division either. --- http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3492/eponaharr.jpg Nominate E P O N A. |
From: vcharon | #465 Maybe now. But Ness beats CJ much worse now than he did then, too. GTA has really fallen off of a cliff since 2005. --- "So cold. I am always by your side." "There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!" |
Alucard/Dracula
clearly "won" round 1. they're far from unbeatable but they've
established themselves as favorites pretty clearly. Phoenix/Edgeworth might be #2. crazy. I'm not convinced Raiden/Vamp beat Gordon. --- add the c and back away iphonesience |
Here's the original again: http://oi41.tinypic.com/flapzk.jpg And the revised one: http://oi40.tinypic.com/2vttn29.jpg I remade the background piece by piece. Frog, Magus, and the magic emblem are all separate layers. Grabbing Frog/Magus sprites was of course easy, but I had to render the emblem from scratch. It turned out much better than the original, but I still dimmed it a bit so as to draw the focus on the two central sprites. --- Yoblazer: http://i32.tinypic.com/zlf1w7.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
New pic is several magnitudes better. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
transcience posted... Alucard/Dracula clearly "won" round 1. they're far from unbeatable but they've established themselves as favorites pretty clearly. Phoenix/Edgeworth might be #2. crazy. I'm not convinced Raiden/Vamp beat Gordon. I don't think PW needs to put on quite as big performances as the other characters. If there's one entrant that's going to a little non-transitive, it's Wrighto. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
From: transcience | #470 I think they do. I think people are underselling Raiden/Vamp here. Yes, it's still not a good performance from Frog/Magus, but MGS duos have performed pretty well in every poll related to this contest so far. Of course, there's also the possibility that Shepard/Saren is much weaker than we think, so I don't know if Alucard/Dracula are in the clear yet. --- "The great GF...Bahamut." "...GF? I...? Using my powers...It is you humans...I fear..." |
Also, a pic like yo's could definitely help Frog/Magus against anyone in this division...! --- http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/2369/mythbattlers.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/Sensui22/1248835958206.png |
From: PartOfYourWorld | #471 Awesome. |
this is going to end up being the closest match so far, yeah? I think Raiden/Vamp win too, I'm just not 100% sure. --- add the c and back away iphonesience |
Still got another percent before it gets closer than Luigi/Waluigi vs. Cecil/Golbez. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
WaLuigi won with 55.28%. I doubt Frogus can get that low (should be good for second closest match yet, though!). --- Praise the Black Turtle, Game of the Decade Guru Champ. (Well, I never promised creativity, did I?!) |
PartOfYourWorld posted... Here's the original again: http://oi41.tinypic.com/flapzk.jpg And the revised one: http://oi40.tinypic.com/2vttn29.jpg I remade the background piece by piece. Frog, Magus, and the magic emblem are all separate layers. Grabbing Frog/Magus sprites was of course easy, but I had to render the emblem from scratch. It turned out much better than the original, but I still dimmed it a bit so as to draw the focus on the two central sprites. If this picture is chosen... Frog/Magus > ChellDOS, 70-30! Seriously though, awesome job, man. Looks bloody good. --- "Claire likes to say 'You can be part of the problem, or part of the solution.' But I happen to believe you can be both." - Phil Dunphy |
Frog/Chell
might be the match that wins the battle bracket. that's replaced
Ryu/Red as *the* debated match of this contest for now. --- add the c and back away iphonesience |
If
people stick by their word and never bank we're bound to see a select
few stuck at the top because lets face it all these debated matches at
least some of us are gonna get them all right.I can genuinely see
someone going the whole way and never banking unless they're the only
man left standing. --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v303/Shaneh87/Funny/siggy.jpg |
one
notable upset is going to wipe out 90% of the board though. the thing
with this contest is that everyone -- myself included -- has succeeded
by picking zero upsets at all. at some point that pattern has to break.
we haven't truly had a split opinion this entire contest. Phoenix/Gordon
was the closest and most people flipped to Phoenix's side after seeing
the first week of the contest. --- xyzzy |
If friggin Crash or Ramza somwhow ends this streak, I'm just going to have to laugh. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
Yeah good point i suppose.I have felt pretty confident with every pick so far after reading the board. --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v303/Shaneh87/Funny/siggy.jpg |
I feel like Ramza might be the one to screw everything up. But not enough to actually change my pick --- Woop woop woop woop woop woop woop |
Yeah, I'm expecting some round 2 matches to break a few brackets. Barring somebody getting extremely lucky and not missing any matches, I think we'll see a lot of the top spot battle picks crash and burn, as well. I've already made my decision on when I'm going to bank, though. --- PSN - Aevio "I'm on a Goomba." - BlackMageJawa |
From: KamikazePotato | Posted: 11/14/2011 11:52:38 PM | #484 Crash scares me for some reason.Pac-man likes to do turd on occasion then suddenly pull a omgwtfhax stunt and beat someone half decent aka Ocelot.Let's just hope this isn't one of his bad days. --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v303/Shaneh87/Funny/siggy.jpg |
Well
guys, Frog/Magus should fall below 56% shortly. I fully expect the
Portal pair to win now, and I'll be betting on them in my battle
bracket. Unless Yoblazer's match pic is chosen. :P --- "Claire likes to say 'You can be part of the problem, or part of the solution.' But I happen to believe you can be both." - Phil Dunphy |
Well my bracket is now all but dead.I had Frog and Magus in the quarters and Samus in the Semi's both unlikey to happen. --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v303/Shaneh87/Funny/siggy.jpg |
I
know a lot of people were talking about today's picture, but if you ask
me it's a hindrance. with CT, you either get sprites are you're at a
disadvantage. they invoke feelings of nostalgia. that game has
absolutely perfect sprite work. --- xyzzy |
I'm
not 100% sure that CT sprites really help out. For example, Crono has
never seemed to overperform with them. Out of the 8 or so times I can
remember them being used, there have only been two instances where the
CT character overperformed. Magus in 2003, who benefitted from Link's ugly sprite, and possible anti-champion sentiment. Frog in 2004, who went up against Solid **** and had a lot of momentum behind him. The latter especially doesn't need a boost from the sprites to make sense, and Magus at least looks slightly less like a DBZ character in them. --- "Ahem! There is *sand* on my *boot*!"--Kefka This is Yesmar. |
I feel like looking like a DBZ character would help someone more than hurt them. |
I
think Crono's art design is better and more recognizable than Frog and
Magus's artwork, which is why I don't think he benefits from sprite
rounds as much. Magus and Frog, on the other hand, I feel are more appealing with sprites. Of course, with Round 3 confirmed to be freeform, we'll likely see some of both on the front page. However, artwork is probably going to be dominant given that I don't see sprites mixing well with Alucard or Phoenix. --- "Go get me Jared...from Subway!" -- CM Punk Future 2011 Rivalry Guru Champion! |
From: LOLContests | #492 Wasn't Mario/Crono 3 a sprite match? --- Game of the decade? More like Guru of the decade mirite? |
From: PartOfYourWorld | #455 Looks great, but move Frog to the right a bit. It's looks like the background is covering his face. I know it isn't, it's just an illusion, but fix it anyway. --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.· http://oi53.tinypic.com/ifbxwl.jpg |
From: KamikazePotato | #449 I've never once said Kratos is some deep character who resembles tragic flaws in all of us and blah blah f***ing blah You want a tragic character, go read Beowulf or Gilgamesh. Hell, even read some Shakespeare or Oedipus. --- ·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.· http://img.imgcake.com/foolmoron/Kuroko-Head-Desk.gif |
Frog/Magus trying really hard to make this a close match. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Rivalry Rumble: 21/22 Today: Chell/GlaDOS & Frog/Magus |
Frog/Magus will cruise to another Ulti-style blowout next round. --- From his looks Magus is Macho Man Randy Savage as an anime zombie. The black wind howls, and one of you will snap into a Slim Jim ooh yeeeah! -sonicblastpunch |
RIBBIT --- Yoblazer: http://i32.tinypic.com/zlf1w7.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
