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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1016
KamikazePotato posted... I severely doubt that showing Ness in a smash render would make any difference. Remember, this is not Solid Snake. Pic factor only works when a good amount of votes come from a cool design, and it primarily only affects 'badass' characters, like Snake, Altair, Ryu Hayabusa ect. Do you really think that Ness is going to change much, if at all? Weren't you arguing earlier in the contest that Red getting an unrecognizable picture last year hurt him? --- http://raptr.com/badge/cf898f37d9c30ef120ada6c35e636ad3/fs.png http://myanimelist.net/signature/RyanSaotome.png |
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mena I don't know maybe the ones Ngamer's site uses are SUPERADJUSTED
or something but whatever I'm not doing that much research. --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png http://i.imgur.com/FII1z.gif |
LeonhartFour posted... From: WarThaNemesis2 | #199 Ness had a night match against Big Daddy. ...And? Big Daddy is actually better during the day than at night. He has a very good day vote, according to 2008 trends. So you're saying that Ness overperformed due to a place where he was getting almost doubled being more important than normal while the place he was almost winning the less important than normal? --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png http://i.imgur.com/FII1z.gif |
Well,
GlaDOS's number is derived through Sonic, who got the Hylian Hammer
laid down on him by Link, if you recall. Her number is probably fairly
accurate. Day/night matches don't shift overall x-stats by too much unless a character is extremely day or night oriented. Neither Ness or GlaDOS have extreme trends. --- http://i43.tinypic.com/dgwh0.gif http://www.majhost.com/gallery/atukam/OHWD/snownd.gif |
From: WarThaNemesis2 | #203 No, I'm saying a day match doesn't necessarily help him as much as you seem to be implying. If Ness does better during the day, it's not by a significant margin. --- "Why must we always choose between certain death and probable death?" "I'm in an epic battle to the death, FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF!" |
So
you're saying that Ness overperformed due to a place where he was
getting almost doubled being more important than normal while the place
he was almost winning the less important than normal? Not overperform, but continents aren't the only thing that dictate trends --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Rivalry Rumble: 18/18 Today: Zidane/Kuja & Mega Man/Dr. Wily |
Ah, come on, people are debating whether Ness has a shot against GlaDOS? Given that Portal 2 was the Game of the Year for most of the year and Steam has only risen in popularity, thanks in part to its free giveaway of Portal, I'd say a great character like GlaDOS can only keep on rising in popularity. Also, I don't see why people think Chell's an anchor for that relationship. Chell's nothing more than a stand-in for the player. Not the most recognizable stand-in, but GlaDOS is still the heart and soul of that rivalry, and that's what matters. --- Drop it to the floor... |
Considering
that Ness would've wrecked GlaDOS last year, the question is an easy
one to ask. How much do you think GlaDOS has boosted? --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
From: KamikazePotato | #208 I'm really not sure about "wrecked." Maybe like 55/45 or something? I honestly think Kirby could have given Tifa one hell of a fight (if not won) in 2010, and going by GlaDOS's performance against Kirby and Ness's performance in the Tifa/Daddy trio, I don't think they're that far apart. --- Yoblazer: http://i33.tinypic.com/ml36gl_th.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
I
doubt Ness would 60/40 GlaDOS like the stats suggest since that puts
him pretty close to Rikku, but in 2010 Ness should win without too much
trouble. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Rivalry Rumble: 18/18 Today: Zidane/Kuja & Mega Man/Dr. Wily |
kinsho3 posted... Also, I don't see why people think Chell's an anchor for that relationship. Chell's nothing more than a stand-in for the player. Not the most recognizable stand-in, but GlaDOS is still the heart and soul of that rivalry, and that's what matters. This is how I feel. I think a case can be made that Glados is one of the most personally-felt rivalries in the entire bracket. --- Inter-planetary-mega-stellar-hydro-static. There's no gravity between us. Our love is automatic. |
X-stats
say 61-39. X-stats are also borked, but that seems about right (and no,
Kirby doesn't beat Tifa that year, Tifa looked more impressive). --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 11/12/2011 10:44:16 PM | message detail | quote Ness had a night match against Big Daddy. This is significant, because Smash is weak in Europe and Earthbound was never released there. I don't really trust Ness in a night match against Chell/GlaDOS. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as BlAcK TuRtLe, Guru Champ! |
Considering
that Ness would've wrecked GlaDOS last year, the question is an easy
one to ask. How much do you think GlaDOS has boosted? I really hope by a whole lot. Portal 2 was a big hit and GlaDOS dominated the storyline for that game. And more people continue to download the first one as well. Hell, I didn't download the first game till earlier in the year. On another note, looking back at CBVIII's stats, I agree that it's hard to definitively say who would have won between Ness and GlaDOS back then. --- Drop it to the floor... |
If
you take Kirby over Tifa and claim Tifa overperformed on Sephiroth,
you'd better be ready to take Sonic over Sephiroth (and thus Bacondorf
over Vincent)! --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png http://i.imgur.com/FII1z.gif |
The
X-Stats from 2010 are worthless (I have no idea if they have been
"adjusted" or not). It takes little more than common sense to realize
everyone in the bottom half was inflated. Daddy has a good performance
on Tifa (day match) - and I'm willing to count that as legitimate - but
then Tifa scores 45% on Sephiroth. Then Sephiroth loses to Snake
although still scores a high enough percentage to look great in the
final stats, as Snake overperformed on Cloud, who may have even
overperformed on Link. GlaDOS is stat'd through Sonic, who got fed to
the Link meat grinder. Heck, what do the stats say about Kirby/Ness? Probably a lot closer than anyone here would dare to take, even before SFF. --- Yoblazer: http://8board.webs.com/ariel.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
the x-stats on Ngamer's site for 2010 are creativename's "hyper-adjusted" ones --- thelefty for analysis crew 2008 imo -tranny I have a third degree burn in flame-o-nomics -Sir Chris |
Kirby (2010c) VS Ness (2010c) Kirby has a strength of 33.19. Ness has a strength of 27.34. Kirby wins with 58.81% of the vote! A win of 10,956 with 62,160 total votes cast. Are we really saying Kirby fails to break 60%? --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Rivalry Rumble: 18/18 Today: Zidane/Kuja & Mega Man/Dr. Wily |
SabrielAbhorsen posted... I think a case can be made that Glados is one of the most personally-felt rivalries in the entire bracket. That's the way I feel about Chell/GlaDOS, which is the reason why I have them going quite far in my bracket. --- Drop it to the floor... |
From: th3l3fty | #217 And those suggest a 59/41 Kirby win, which means Kirby vs. Big Daddy would be a 55/45 or thereabouts. Seriously? As you said, those are adjusted X-Stats - the raw stats show Kirby and Ness as nearly equal. There's a reason we hardly use X-Stats and haven't for years - instead favoring to analyze the actual matches individually. Big Daddy beat Ness 55/45. Just knowing what I know about the fanbases and games, and seeing what both characters have done in the contest, I don't think he would beat GlaDOS much worse than that. Also, Chell would easily beat Giygas in a poll. I'd bet actual money on that, since some people here seem to think it very unlikely. --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/25z1non.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
charmander6000 | Posted 11/12/2011 10:47:49 PM | message detail | quote Not overperform, but continents aren't the only thing that dictate trends In the night vote, only the continents dictate the trends. I've never seen a night vote equivalent to the ASV in any match so far. There aren't any known games/characters that do better at night because of the late night North American voters. Even if that did exist, they would do little damage to the overall trends because their influence is heavily diluted because of Europe's dominance at night. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as BlAcK TuRtLe, Guru Champ! |
The most obvious one I can think of is Crono. Europe doesn't care for him, but he does well in that time until the dead zone. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Rivalry Rumble: 18/18 Today: Zidane/Kuja & Mega Man/Dr. Wily |
I'm
not entirely sure on Crono. We haven't seen Crono in a night match
prior to the introduction of being able to see Geolocation results while
a poll is still running at the moment. Last time we saw Crono was in a
day match and we last saw Chrono Trigger on a match back when it wasn't
possible to view Geolocation results until after the poll ended. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as BlAcK TuRtLe, Guru Champ! |
Ok time to end this debate because we're 35 minutes from LAWYERS. --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png http://i.imgur.com/FII1z.gif |
This may be the only time I get to see my name on the top 50 of the battle challenge. =( --- Official Marth of the SSBU Board Sign here http://bit.ly/qqDDST and copy this to your sig if you want Majora's Mask 3D. |
But we know the trends of Crono, he's strong at night collapses at 4am and just never recovers. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Rivalry Rumble: 18/18 Today: Zidane/Kuja & Mega Man/Dr. Wily |
In b4 Phoenix fan boys declare victory after 5 minutes of board vote. --- Pobody's nerfect. |
Sadly, this match will be a bust It'll be over at the 10-minute mark --- ~ Rivalry Rumble Oracle Challenge ~ Rank - 22nd Today's Prediction: Mega Man / Wily - 75.8% |
in b4 Gordon supporters claim 65/35 at the freeze isn't insurmountable --- http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/8516/whatisdesiresig.gif |
The board vote is either going to be ugly or people are going to bracket vote --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Rivalry Rumble: 20/20 Today: Gordon Freeman/Dr. Breen & Alucard/Dracula |
Time for some ultimate Gordon Freeman nostalgia. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrPXONk3-tQ *salutes, teary eyed* --- Yoblazer: http://i32.tinypic.com/zlf1w7.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
John Freeman vs. Headcrab would beat Gordon Freeman vs. Dr. Breen. --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png http://i.imgur.com/FII1z.gif |
Oh god, someone hold me! --- "You know what, forget it. Nothing I can think of posting will really be of much use to anyone in any way, shape, or form." ~LinkMarioSamus |
Vote Accepted Phoenix Wright vs. Miles Edgeworth 82.35% 14 Gordon Freeman vs. Dr. Breen 17.65% 3 TOTAL VOTES 17 --- "I am riding the Poke-wave, using the metaphorical Surf and hopping on my Blastoise, all the way to Mario vs Bowser." - RPGLord |
Vote Accepted Phoenix Wright vs. Miles Edgeworth 84.38% 27 Gordon Freeman vs. Dr. Breen 15.63% 5 TOTAL VOTES 32 Outstanding. --- http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7760/222bj.jpg |
Phoenix Wright vs. Miles Edgeworth 81.82% 18 Gordon Freeman vs. Dr. Breen 18.18% 4 TOTAL VOTES 22 let's go --- Fight like dragons, have no fear, swords are made of STEEEEEEEEL~ |
Phoenix Wright vs. Miles Edgeworth 73.81% 31 Gordon Freeman vs. Dr. Breen 26.19% 11 TOTAL VOTES 42 --- Anyone who has appeared in a video game should be allowed in the next character battle. |
Phoenix Wright vs. Miles Edgeworth 80% 8 Gordon Freeman vs. Dr. Breen 20% 2 TOTAL VOTES 10 DAMMIT. I WANTED THAT FIRST GORDON VOTE SOOOOOO BAD --- Yoblazer: http://i44.tinypic.com/5nw45i.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
Phoenix Wright vs. Miles Edgeworth 82.35% 28 Gordon Freeman vs. Dr. Breen 17.65% 6 TOTAL VOTES 34 --- "You know what, forget it. Nothing I can think of posting will really be of much use to anyone in any way, shape, or form." ~LinkMarioSamus |
gotta love the PW board vote --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Rivalry Rumble: 20/20 Today: Gordon Freeman/Dr. Breen & Alucard/Dracula |
That is one badass pic. |
Phoenix Wright vs. Miles Edgeworth 80.56% 29 Gordon Freeman vs. Dr. Breen 19.44% 7 TOTAL VOTES 36 Dat board vote --- The Gamer In Me His dark secret is he's really Spark Brushel in disguise. If people knew, he'd be ruined. - Spiral on the black psyche locks |
http://notinpripyat.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/barney-it-begins.jpg?w=251&h=189 --- Something something something ^Poorly disguised anti-caps sig |
Down to 60 only 1 minute in? lol phoenix --- Game of the decade? More like Guru of the decade mirite? |
Uh-oh, Phoenix. Edit: Never mind. --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png http://i.imgur.com/FII1z.gif |
Vote Accepted Phoenix Wright vs. Miles Edgeworth 67.31% 70 Gordon Freeman vs. Dr. Breen 32.69% 34 TOTAL VOTES 104 --- When you've got a pretty-boy monkey on your back constantly calling you a puppet, you hardly want to seem like you're happy to be used. - DSakaCharanJ |
smells like 55-45 after the board vote fades off --- ~ Rivalry Rumble Oracle Challenge ~ Rank - 22nd Today's Prediction: Mega Man / Wily - 75.8% |
Holy crap, Phoenix is going UP --- http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/2369/mythbattlers.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/Sensui22/1248835958206.png |
LOOK AT HIM GO --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
uuuh make that 60-40 --- ~ Rivalry Rumble Oracle Challenge ~ Rank - 22nd Today's Prediction: Mega Man / Wily - 75.8% |
