GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1016
Poor Banjo, I was hoping the team could break 25%. At least they're not under 20%. --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC |
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I
think it's pretty clear Ness is overrated in the 2010 x-stats by Tifa
weirdness - Big Daddy's performance on her and/or her performance on
Sephiroth, both of which were a little questionable. Does anyone really
believe Ness is worth 26% on Link? That's right around where Tidus was
last contest. Tidus can lose as much as wants, but there's no way he
drops that one. --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] |
Before
SFF I would expect Ness to perform better than GlaDOS did against
Kirby. Of course GlaDOS's strength last contest doesn't matter
considering Portal was given for free and Portal 2 was released since
then. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Rivalry Rumble: 18/18 Today: Zidane/Kuja & Mega Man/Dr. Wily |
The
Southwest division is the most unpredictable of all.In all the others
all matches are locked(okay maybe 1 in each round isn't locked.).But
here?Anything can happen!I wish though the other divisions were like
this,the contest would had more fun... --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
thok3 posted... Who's responsible for the Ness-Gigyas pic? I'm not sure it will help them at all in the contest, but the person who made it did a great job of framing the picture to emphasize that it's a little kid versus an Eldritch Abomination. That was mine. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
I
just noticed exactly how bad the votals in Zidane/Kuja vs. Meat Boy/Dr.
Fetus were. Beats out Chris/Wesker vs. Dan/Sagat for least popular
contest poll by 2500 votes and has less than half the amount of votes as
Max Payne/Dirk the Daring in 2002. --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] |
Match XXI: (1) Phoenix Wright/Miles Edgeworth vs. (8) Gordon Freeman/Dr. Breen Previous Contest Phoenix Wright – 2010 47.30% against Jecht Miles Edgeworth – 2010 23.78% against Big Boss Gordon Freeman – 2010 53.25% against Princess Peach 38.04% against Tifa Lockhart Dr. Breen – N/A N/A Analysis We’ve finally reached the southwest division where over half the matches have been debated to some extent on the board. The first match is also the most hyped match of the first round. While the board favours Phoenix Wright and the way the contest has played out also favours the lawyers I wouldn’t count out Freeman and Breen. After intensive arguing on the board I think the consensus of individual strength is that Freeman would defeat Phoenix by about the same amount as he did in 2006. Based on his performances Phoenix Wright has stayed roughly constant in terms of strength and while Freeman did go up in strength, however last year’s contest showed a drop of strength to his normal performance. The main thing is that Freeman in a one on one setting is stronger than Phoenix which in my opinion can be easily seen based on Freeman’s performance last contest. While I would take Edgeworth over Dr. Breen in a match we are talking about two of the weakest characters in this bracket and I doubt either one would bring any individual strength to the table. As for rivalry strength Phoenix and Edgeworth are heroes while Freeman and Breen are zeros. I would almost argue that this match has become almost a two on one scenario. For Freeman to win he has to hope that the boost from the rivalry is smaller than the gap between him and Phoenix, which is possible. Firstly Phoenix gets a lot of his strength away from his games, mostly from the objection meme. While this gives him strength it leaves a good portion of the fanbase unaware of the existence of Miles Edgeworth, let alone knowledge of the rivalry, this helps explain why Edgeworth is so weak compare to Phoenix. Then you have to consider the concept of rivalry factor where the whole point is to convince Freeman voters that Phoenix and Edgeworth are a better rivalry. This obviously questions how much overlap does the two series have and given how much Phoenix Wright fans love their game is there a significant amount of fans that are more neutral, but would change their minds because of the whole rivalry concept. Then you have the people that feel Phoenix Wright is going to get a hype boost from being announced in the updated Marvel vs. Capcom 3. Ignoring that the game holds no water compare to other hyped games only Phoenix Wright fans seem to be going crazy over the announcement and while it may give non-fans knowledge of Wright’s existence he doesn’t exactly have that problem since most people remember him from the objection meme, plus the game doesn’t show anything about his rivalry with Edgeworth which in my opinion is the thing he needs most. Phoenix and Edgeworth will be going in as the favourites, but I’ll stay aboard this ship because I do see Freeman and Breen having a legit chance at winning this match. Of course everything needs to fall in place for it to do so, but that’s what these contests are all about. charmander6000’s Bracket: Gordon Freeman/Dr. Breen > Phoenix Wright/Miles Edgeworth charmander6000’s Prediction: Gordon Freeman/Dr. Breen wins, 51.23% - 48.77% --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Rivalry Rumble: 18/18 Today: Zidane/Kuja & Mega Man/Dr. Wily |
By
the way, does anyone else think that Chell/GlaDOS vs. Ness/Giygas is
being criminally underdiscussed? Chell and Giygas are non-factors. Ness
probably beats GlaDOS 1 v 1. Rivalry factor goes to Chell/GlaDOS, but
their names are still never said in-game. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
KamikazePotato posted... By the way, does anyone else think that Chell/GlaDOS vs. Ness/Giygas is being criminally underdiscussed? Chell and Giygas are non-factors. Ness probably beats GlaDOS 1 v 1. Rivalry factor goes to Chell/GlaDOS, but their names are still never said in-game. When you made that pic where Ness gets no real estate it kind of took the breath out of the argument that he has a chance. --- Pobody's nerfect. |
From: KamikazePotato | #158 I thought Ness had a good shot pre-contest. Not feeling it so much now. --- "Link has spoken for years. And music is his language" -YoBlazer |
I
think Ness has the pic advantage there. It's far, far more eye-catching
that Chell vs. GlaDOS, which consists of two entities you will see for
1% of the game total. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
What's
changed since then? If anything, I think Ness has a better shot now
than he did before. Ezio certainly doesn't help recent-gen characters'
arguments. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
Anyone who's actually played Earthbound will probably love that pic and get a nostalgia rush. Just depends on how many Earthbound people will be voting. --- http://i.imgur.com/fe05x.png http://i.imgur.com/stNJf.png |
KamikazePotato posted... I think Ness has the pic advantage there. It's far, far more eye-catching that Chell vs. GlaDOS, which consists of two entities you will see for 1% of the game total. You said it yourself. Giygas and Chell are no draws in this match. It'll be micro-Ness against GLaDOS. Tilts the scales. --- Pobody's nerfect. |
From: KamikazePotato | #161 I love the pic as an Earthbound fan. But Ness gets more strength from Smash than Earthbound on this site, and the pic minimizes Ness who is the only part of that rivalry with strength. --- Chex Warrior (Chex Quest) for CB2011 |
I
think Ness has the pic advantage there. It's far, far more eye-catching
that Chell vs. GlaDOS, which consists of two entities you will see for
1% of the game total. Fortunately for Chell and GlaDOS, Giygas dominates the picture and it also shows up for less than 1% of the game. --- Pokemon VGC2011 NW Regional - Top 8 Pokemon VGC2011 US Nationals - 54th place |
GlaDOS
is a worse pic draw than Giygas. You almost never see GlaDOS, and she
doesn't have a particularly recognizable design. Giygas, while still not
seen until the end of the game, is very distinctive, even to people who
haven't seen him before. The pic dynamic probably helps with that, I
think. Would it really matter if Ness had a lot of space on the picture?
The fact that he's getting dwarfed by an opponent is probably better.
Pic factor is not usually about which pic is the most generically
'best', and rather which pic catches the eye more. For example, http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/gotd/gotd-010.jpg When this pic was released last year, people predicted an amazing beatdown for Mother 3. Didn't happen. Besides, Ness isn't Solid Snake. I doubt the pic matters that much for him either way. Dismissing the match entirely based on that seems silly. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
I'm not dismissing the match based on that, I'm just not feeling Ness at this point. For people who have never played Earthbound, Giygas pic is not a draw at all. And it's not so much that Chell/Glados has a pic advantage as Ness DOESN'T have a pic advantage. --- http://img.imgcake.com/drakeryn/alecjpguz.jpg |
Making
the picture stand out was honestly the best Giygas could hope to add to
Team Earthbound. The guy wasn't going to add to Ness's strength any to
help put him over Chell/GlaDOS. --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png http://i.imgur.com/FII1z.gif |
If
you had to give a percentage for how confident you feel about
Phoenix/Wright winning tonight, what would it be? As said earlier, I
think its like 75%. --- http://raptr.com/badge/cf898f37d9c30ef120ada6c35e636ad3/fs.png http://myanimelist.net/signature/RyanSaotome.png |
Ness would never have a distinct pic advantage over anyone. He's not someone you vote for based on his design! --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
I have Ness in my bracket. Hope to God I'm wrong, but I switched my battle pick. --- Pobody's nerfect. |
From: KamikazePotato | #171 He's someone people vote for thanks to Smash, so reminding people of that is the closest I'd think he'd be to a pic advantage! --- "Link has spoken for years. And music is his language" -YoBlazer |
From: KamikazePotato | #161 If that's how you approach it, then can Chell or GlaDOS ever have a picture advantage against anyone? I think you may be underselling the Portal fanbase (and gamers hardcore enough to vote on GameFAQs). They know what the characters look like. This is a really hardcore site. Like half the people here have never played Ace Attorney but still understand the memes. --- Yoblazer: http://i32.tinypic.com/zlf1w7.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
GlaDOS/Ness
feels like Portal/FFXII where FFXII was stronger in the previous
contest, but Portal is a different beast since we last saw it. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Rivalry Rumble: 18/18 Today: Zidane/Kuja & Mega Man/Dr. Wily |
then can Chell or GlaDOS ever have a picture advantage against anyone? Honestly, no. Two of the least-photogenic characters in existence. I still don't think it matters much either way. Again, this isn't Solid Snake. Why are we discussing the pic and not the match? --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
So let's ask this: How much do Phoenix/Edgey need at the freeze for you to feel confident that they will win and Gordon/Breen won't come back? --- http://i43.tinypic.com/dgwh0.gif http://www.majhost.com/gallery/atukam/OHWD/snownd.gif |
The pic is very important to this match, I think. I'm not criticizing the quality of your picture. I think if you wanted to make a clever picture that Earthbound fans could appreciate, you did an excellent job. If you wanted to make a picture to help Ness win, you did a poor job. Earthbound doesn't win matches for Ness. Smash does. The picture should have had a heavy emphasis on Smash Bros. somehow (I'm not sure how you really do this since Giygas does not appear in Smash). Using sprite/gameplay/memories from an incredibly weak, 16-year-old game can certainly make for an artistic and quality picture, but probably not a match-winning one. --- Yoblazer: http://i32.tinypic.com/zlf1w7.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
From: LeonhartFour | #177 49% --- http://img.imgcake.com/alecoweenpngam.png http://img.imgcake.com/alecpngym.png |
LeonhartFour posted... So let's ask this: How much do Phoenix/Edgey need at the freeze for you to feel confident that they will win and Gordon/Breen won't come back? 55-56% --- http://raptr.com/badge/cf898f37d9c30ef120ada6c35e636ad3/fs.png http://myanimelist.net/signature/RyanSaotome.png |
charmander6000 posted... GlaDOS/Ness feels like Portal/FFXII where FFXII was stronger in the previous contest, but Portal is a different beast since we last saw it. If anyone is taking Chell/GlaDOS because they think GlaDOS would beat Ness then they're nuts. They're just going to happen to be right but for the wrong reasons. And Phoenix/Edgeworth honestly will have to be blowing Gordon/breen out of the water for me to feel safe. If there's a match to be horribly horribly front-loaded this is it. --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png http://i.imgur.com/FII1z.gif |
From: PartOfYourWorld | #178 No, it shouldn't. Using games that the rivalry doesn't originate from is dumb, I think. It may "look good," but I think it's a bad idea. Besides, are we really arguing that Ness has "pic appeal?" He's a nerdy looking kid with a hat and a bat. --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
This board vote will be crazy for Phoenix. It could be like 70% a minute in and I'm still not sure if I'd feel safe. --- http://raptr.com/badge/cf898f37d9c30ef120ada6c35e636ad3/fs.png http://myanimelist.net/signature/RyanSaotome.png |
If
anyone is taking Chell/GlaDOS because they think GlaDOS would beat Ness
then they're nuts. They're just going to happen to be right but for the
wrong reasons. Chell/GlaDOS doesn't exactly scream rivalry to me. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Rivalry Rumble: 18/18 Today: Zidane/Kuja & Mega Man/Dr. Wily |
Who is expected to benefit more from the night, phoenix or freeman? --- Inter-planetary-mega-stellar-hydro-static. There's no gravity between us. Our love is automatic. |
From: SabrielAbhorsen | #185 Phoenix. Gordon is night-oriented, but Phoenix Wright is ALL night vote. --- "I can set you free, mate." "My freedom was forfeit long ago!" |
PW would need at least 55% before I would start worrying. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Rivalry Rumble: 18/18 Today: Zidane/Kuja & Mega Man/Dr. Wily |
GlaDOS could beat Ness 1 v 1, but I wouldn't bet on it. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
SabrielAbhorsen posted... Who is expected to benefit more from the night, phoenix or freeman? I'd imagine it'll be even. Some people will say Phoenix since he'd get the first hour push, but he'd get those same loyal voters even in a day match early on. --- http://raptr.com/badge/cf898f37d9c30ef120ada6c35e636ad3/fs.png http://myanimelist.net/signature/RyanSaotome.png |
I
love the Ness/Gigyas pic, but there's no way it gives any pic advantage
of any importance over Chell/Glados. If this was a "Most terrifying
boss fight" contest, then there would be a pic advantage, but not in a
rivalry rumble. |
For
the record, Phoenix had 52.20% on Jecht at the freeze and finished with
47.30%, about a 5% drop. Jecht almost certainly has a stronger night
vote than Gordon, as well. --- "Hold on a minute! That testimony stinks!" "Witness! You can't just say 'Hello' and expect us to get anywhere! I want you to testify!" |
From: LeonhartFour | #182 Not when those games are literally 10x stronger than the games the rivalry does originate from. Let's put it this way: would anyone be giving Ness a second thought here if the Mother series is all he had? No. He'd be terrible, awful, winless fodder who'd only manage a win if he draws Guybrush in R1. Smash wins him his matches. You gotta go with your strength, and Ness is a Smash guy, same as Captain Falcon and Meta Knight. --- Yoblazer: http://oi52.tinypic.com/ad21i1.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
From: FateStayAlbion | #189 Phoenix is pretty strong in Europe. He wouldn't get that benefit in a day match. --- http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/2369/mythbattlers.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/Sensui22/1248835958206.png |
KamikazePotato posted... GlaDOS could beat Ness 1 v 1, but I wouldn't bet on it. 61-39 is a lot to turn around just from one game when the first game was already so popular. Even moreso when GlaDOS might be overrated and Ness might be underrated in 2010 stats. --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png http://i.imgur.com/FII1z.gif |
From: PartOfYourWorld | #192 From: LeonhartFour | #182 Yeah, I already addressed this. I don't really care about what makes Ness strongest. He should have a pic that accurately represents the rivalry, not something that will (supposedly) give him a strength boost since he's so photogenic. --- http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2011/8/22/2094c2de-bae8-4f5b-9f27-67eaff0aaeaf.jpg |
From: WarThaNemesis2 | #194 ...Why would Ness be underrated? If anything, Tifa overperformed on Sephiroth. --- http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7760/222bj.jpg |
I severely doubt that showing Ness in a smash render would make any difference. Remember, this is not Solid Snake.
Pic factor only works when a good amount of votes come from a cool
design, and it primarily only affects 'badass' characters, like Snake,
Altair, Ryu Hayabusa ect. Do you really think that Ness is going to change much, if at all? --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
GlaDOS might be overrated and Ness might be underrated in 2010 stats I think you have that backwards --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Rivalry Rumble: 18/18 Today: Zidane/Kuja & Mega Man/Dr. Wily |
LeonhartFour posted... From: WarThaNemesis2 | #194 Even moreso when GlaDOS might be overrated and Ness might be underrated in 2010 stats. ...Why would Ness be underrated? If anything, Tifa overperformed on Sephiroth. Ness had a night match against Big Daddy. --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png http://i.imgur.com/FII1z.gif |
From: WarThaNemesis2 | #199 ...And? Big Daddy is actually better during the day than at night. He has a very good day vote, according to 2008 trends. --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
