GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1015
And
when I say Frog/Magus being much weaker than Sub-Zero/Scorpion, I'm
talking individually, not as a pair. I wouldn't pick Frog/Magus to win
in this format. But Sub-Zero and Scorpion aren't significantly stronger than either character. Scorpion is probably a tossup against Frog or Magus. --- http://i.minus.com/iH9vIGOBoyTQ2.gif |
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ha. you need to fact check yourself dude. everything you're saying is just wrong. --- xyzzy |
Let's be honest: Do we really think Frog/Magus are that much weaker than Sub-Zero/Scorpion? Yes --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Rivalry Rumble: 16/16 Today: Link/Ganondorf & Amaterasu/Orochi |
I think the lower votals of this contest would favor Frog and Magus heavily compared to Subby/Scorp. It's a moot point, though, because I think Castlevania also could gain from the lack of casual support for the contest. --- "Go get me Jared...from Subway!" -- CM Punk Future 2011 Rivalry Guru Champion! |
Wasn't Chrono Trigger at its height when the votes were at their highest? --- Ngirl is a toll bridge - Wigs Gotta pay if you want to come inside! - Ngirl |
Alucard/Dracula
is the real wild card of this division. It's hard to tell what effect
Dracula will have until we see them in action. --- http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/8718/leonflowchart.png |
From: Achromatic | #405 Not really, no. There hasn't really been much proven in terms of correlation between character strength and vote totals to begin with anyway though. --- http://www.gifsoup.com/view/593815/frasier-and-niles-dance-o.gif |
I
think there is a pretty good chance at a perfect here. I'm not saying
"there's going to be a perfect" but most perfects are broken on dinky
little irrelevant first round coinflips (at least that's my biased
experience). This year we have very few first round tossups, and those
we have are all going the "predicted" way. If we get to the end of the first round without any upsets, then there's only so many combos left, and people have taken just about every upset possible in some combination, unless we get like Ryu/Ken > Mario/Bowser or something ridiculous like that. --- Gamefaqs' #1 Testicle Bettor: Proud owner of many testes http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/6553/alec.png |
From: LeonhartFour | #407 Uh, it's self evident. When you lose 40,000 votes things shift. --- "intention doesn't matter? clearly your cashier degree did not require a law course." - ND to Joyrock on the legality of drinking a soda before paying |
From: Achromatic | #405 While they did well in 2003, I consider 2004 to be the apex, with Crono defeating Mario and Frog's Cinderella run. Even Magus looked good destroying Luca Blight before running into the awful SFF bracket. --- "Go get me Jared...from Subway!" -- CM Punk Future 2011 Rivalry Guru Champion! |
From: Achromatic | #409 But there's no evidence that it helps specific characters. Of course things will change, but there's no evidence that it helps, say, Crono more than Sonic. --- http://img.imgcake.com/leonpngpe.png http://img.imgcake.com/squalloweenpngem.png |
From: LeonhartFour | #411 Wouldn't the evidence be in the x-stats? --- "intention doesn't matter? clearly your cashier degree did not require a law course." - ND to Joyrock on the legality of drinking a soda before paying |
From: Achromatic | #412 It would be. Good luck finding any. --- "Hold on a minute! That testimony stinks!" "Witness! You can't just say 'Hello' and expect us to get anywhere! I want you to testify!" |
From: transience | #402 When I meant, "not very strong", I meant midcarder at best. For example, Link got somewhere in the 70s against Alucard in 2010. And did you not notice that I corrected myself after I made my mistakes? Anyways, have we had any matches so far where the rivalry of the strongest character in the poll by a decent amount (were not talking about Ezio and DK or Leon and Subby) lost? This might be interesting because both Alucard and Shepard are stronger than Frog and Magus. --- Thanks for reinforcing your stupidity, jerks. Einstein > You |
From: whatisurnameplz | #414 They're not that much stronger than Frog/Magus than the difference between Leon Kennedy and Sub-Zero. --- "I can set you free, mate." "My freedom was forfeit long ago!" |
Mega_Bieber_Fan | Posted 11/11/2011 2:33:41 PM | message detail | quote Why does this bracket suck so bad? 4/5 seed matches should not be blowouts like this. 10 out of 18 matches so far have been over 70%. That really points to this bracket having a lot of weak s*** in it. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as BlAcK TuRtLe, Guru Champ! |
Over half of the Series Contest results were 70%+ blowouts, to boot. Lots of correlations here! --- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." |
From: LeonhartFour | #415 But at least the difference between Frog and Alucard/Shepard is noticeable. Leon and Subby on the other hand were less than a percent within each other. You also have to factor in the fact that Shepard has every reason to get stronger since he still gets new games and Mass Effect 3 is coming out next year, whereas Frog/Magus only appeared in Chrono Trigger, which is over 15 years old at this point. --- Thanks for reinforcing your stupidity, jerks. Einstein > You |
whatisurnameplz posted... From: LeonhartFour | #415 They're not that much stronger than Frog/Magus than the difference between Leon Kennedy and Sub-Zero. But at least the difference between Frog and Alucard/Shepard is noticeable. Leon and Subby on the other hand were less than a percent within each other. You also have to factor in the fact that Shepard has every reason to get stronger since he still gets new games and Mass Effect 3 is coming out next year, whereas Frog/Magus only appeared in Chrono Trigger, which is over 15 years old at this point. Between Soul Calibur V leaks and the upcoming AC: Revelations, Ezio has had every reason to gain strength as well. Didn't stop him from getting slammed by Chokey Kong and his sidekick Krap K. Rool. The #2 on your lineup is obviously making a world of difference in these matches. Saren is only in the first Mass Effect, and he stops being an important character about halfway through the game. This, of course, doesn't even take into account that ME2 is massively more popular than the first game. I love me some Mass Effect, but I just can't see Saren pulling enough weight to win that match. --- PSN - Aevio "I'm on a Goomba." - BlackMageJawa |
From: whatisurnameplz | #418 He hasn't had a new game since the last Character Battle, however. But if you can turn 50/50 into 73/27, I don't see any problem with turning 60/40 into 40/60, or even just 55/45. And yeah, the second character matters, which is why I don't see Shepard having much of a chance of beating Alucard/Dracula. --- http://img.imgcake.com/leonpngpe.png http://img.imgcake.com/squalloweenpngem.png |
I don't think Link getting 85% means FF7 can't beat him. You guys forgetting how hated World of Warcraft is on this site? It was the most nominated game last year and Paper Mario beat it. Freaking Animal Crossing broke 40% on it and Kefka got like 2386% against Arthas 1 on 1. Link benefited from anti-votes there. World of Warcraft and Call of Duty are the most anti-voted entities on this site, I wouldn't read much into it. --- "You're a machine dude, and also an inspiration. Keep doing what you're doing." -ExThaNemesis |
Message From Ultima_X on 11/11/2011 For the GameFAQs twitter feed, can you bring back those hourly contest updates? Or bi-hourly, whatever they were? They were cool, and it's especially great for those of us who are out a lot and get Twitter updates sent to our phones. Message From GameFAQs on 11/11/2011 Unfortunately, Twitter changed its authentication scheme enough to block automatic updates without out a ton of work - which nobody has had time to do. This is disappointing. I liked getting those updates sent to my phone last year. --- ¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸ "If God can have stupid rules, then so can Ulti." -Anri |
Not most nominated. That was FFX. It was the most commonly selected winner, however. --- "Why must we always choose between certain death and probable death?" "I'm in an epic battle to the death, FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF!" |
You
see then why this site is really a relic.WOW which is the most
influential game of the previous decade and the COD series which breaks
every record of sales and playing time lose from everything.Nice eh? --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
Same.
People apparently either don't view Saren as a very good rival, or just
don't like him at all. He's one of my favorites, but he's probably the
weakest character in that first round match by a good amount. I like Frog/Magus for the division. I ended up changing that in my bracket at the last minute from Alucard/Dracula. Individually, they might not be super popular, but they should have some nice strength together. The good thing for them, too, is that Chrono Trigger has no shortage of people who know it on GameFAQs. Most voters have played CT, even if it is old, and the Frog/Magus rivalry is one of the best things from the game. It's hard not to like those two as rivals, even if you don't like them as much individually. --- peace comes from within |
LeonhartFour posted... Over half of the Series Contest results were 70%+ blowouts, to boot. Lots of correlations here! http://thengamer.com/xstats/?name1=Street Fighter&year1=2006s&name2=Pokemon&year2=2006s I'll die if this happens... --- "I am riding the Poke-wave, using the metaphorical Surf and hopping on my Blastoise, all the way to Mario vs Bowser." - RPGLord |
I
have Alucard and Phoenix winning their matches. After thinking more
about it, the Shepard upset probably isn't as likely as I labeled it in
my previous post, but Phoenix still has me worried. Hopefully, my faith will be rewarded, just like when I bet on Donkey Kong to win even after getting burned by him more than once over the years. XD |
Yeah, WoW was either a four-seed or a five-seed and SB announced the four most nominated games were FFX/SSBM/RE4/SMG. --- http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3492/eponaharr.jpg Nominate E P O N A. |
From: Greyfeld | #419 Mass Effect is a much bigger series than Assassin's Creed, and unlike Rodridgo Saren at least won't get hurt by any sort of pic factor. And you guys are seriously underestimating how highly thought of ME1 is. http://www.unikgamer.com/tops/favorite-video-games-of-all-time-1.html Now I know those exact rankings wouldn't apply to this site, but it at least shows that ME1 isn't getting totally left in the dust by its sequel. Also, I don't really see how Dracula is going to help his son out a lot. They only starred in one game together, and we're must likely going to get SotN Dracula, and not the Dracula image most people are familiar with. For all we know some people might think that Dracula is just the name of Alucard's rival! --- Thanks for reinforcing your stupidity, jerks. Einstein > You |
In
general, Assassin's Creed is a much larger series than Mass Effect.
There's no comparison between the two. On GameFAQs, Mass Effect is
definitely the more popular one, in no small part to the fact that it's a
RPG. Saren won't hurt Shepard as much as Rodrigo brings down Ezio, but
the fact remains that ME1 isn't what made Shepard into the character,
strength-wise, he is in these contests. He owes much of it to Mass
Effect 2 - the series in general was made much more popular after ME2.
Shepard/Saren is a one game rivalry, one that many fans of the series
don't even view with much respect, and it's from the game that most of
GameFAQs doesn't seem too keen on. They can still win their match, but
Alucard/Dracula should be good there. As for the division, I really
don't see that as even a possibility. --- peace comes from within |
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I don't think Link getting 85% means FF7 can't beat him. You guys forgetting how hated World of Warcraft is on this site? It was the most nominated game last year and Paper Mario beat it. Freaking Animal Crossing broke 40% on it and Kefka got like 2386% against Arthas 1 on 1. Link benefited from anti-votes there. World of Warcraft and Call of Duty are the most anti-voted entities on this site, I wouldn't read much into it. I don't think anti-votes matter when you are getting 15% of the votes. The vast majority of the anti-voters aren't siding with Link/Ganondorf because they hate WoW but because they genuinely like Link/Ganondorf a lot. --- Pokemon VGC2011 NW Regional - Top 8 Pokemon VGC2011 US Nationals - 54th place |
Well
even if Alucard/Dracula wins I still think this will be one of the
closer round 1 matches. I'll be shocked if Alucard/Dracula get into the
mid-60s. --- Thanks for reinforcing your stupidity, jerks. Einstein > You |
From: whatisurnameplz | #433 In this contest full of blowouts, that shouldn't surprise you. --- http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7760/222bj.jpg |
ME1 wasn't even Shep vs Saren. --- caps |
from
what we've seen so far, Alucard/Dracula seems like it will do well.
Frog and Magus can definitely beat them and I'm a little scared of
Phoenix even if nobody else is, but classic game rivalries like that
have done well. I'm not really worried about Shepard at this point. --- add the c and back away iphonesience |
I
think it should be pointed out that the adjusted x-stats from last
year's CB have Shepard and Alucard pretty evenly matched. This is
definitely going to be DK/Rool vs. Ezio/Rodrigo all over again;
approximately equal strength in a 1v1 match, but the win goes to the
stronger pairing. And I don't know about everybody else, but I have far more faith in Alucard's rallying power than I do Shepard's. --- PSN - Aevio "I'm on a Goomba." - BlackMageJawa |
Match XIX: (3) Zidane Tribal/Kuja vs. (6) Meat Boy/Dr. Fetus Previous Contest Zidane Tribal – 2010 64.36% against Claptrap 48.45% against Ike Kuja – Villains 2005 46.24% against Master Hand Meat Boy – N/A N/A Dr. Fetus – N/A N/A Analysis Super Meat Boy is one of those games that has very few fans, but is loved by the ones that play the game. There are so few fans that it took until a contest where people were struggling to think of pairs to get them in. I don’t think anyone expects them to have a chance, but the amount of joke votes this match can have is still up in the air. Zidane returns after looking decent last contest while Kuja is still trying to forget the nightmare of losing to a glove by taking down some meat and a fetus. Zidane and Kuja are in one of those positions where their fate in the bracket is sealed and there is almost no debate to the point that some people forget that they exist. Well you can’t make a perfect bracket where there is some debate about everyone at least making the second round. Joke votes are going to be the main venue of strength for Meat Boy and Dr. Fetus. We’ve seen Conker and The Great Mighty Poo look decent against Ike and Black Knight while The Kid and The Guy seemed to over perform to people’s expectations. Not only does the pair have a funny name they will also have a funny and unique picture to help gain them some extra votes. Of course I doubt that even a large amount of joke votes will pull off the upset, but there is a chance that Zidane and Kuja doesn’t exactly look the great overall. Of course we could get the other extreme where Zidane and Kuja blast Meat Boy and Dr. Fetus because very few people actually know of them. charmander6000’s Bracket: Zidane Tribal/Kuja > Meat Boy/Dr. Fetus charmander6000’s Prediction: Zidane Tribal/Kuja wins, 69.82% - 30.18% --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Rivalry Rumble: 16/16 Today: Link/Ganondorf & Amaterasu/Orochi |
So,
I was thinking about the southwest division a bit. I took Frog/Magus
as the obvious choice in my bracket to take the division. I figured as a
nostalgic CT duo, they'll wipe the floor with Chell/GlaDos, then pull
out a solid 60-40 on the vampire duo in the division finals before being
fed to Link in the 4th round. But then I got to thinking... is it really going to go that smoothly? During last year's GOTD contest, Portal ran rampant through the southwest division (oddly, the same division that the rivalry duo from the same game now inhabits) before putting up a solid 45/55 showing against Resident Evil 4 in the division finals. Since this fantastic showing, Portal has seen a lot of free releases, and Portal 2 put Chell and GlaDos back in the spotlight for a multidimensional adventure that received glowing reviews. As I stated in another thread not twenty minutes ago, Chell/GlaDos is very much a rivalry that is the epitome of "more than the sum of their parts." With all the intangibles to back them up, does anybody else think that they may have a chance to trample over Frog/Magus in round 2, and steal away the division spotlight? --- PSN - Aevio "I'm on a Goomba." - BlackMageJawa |
Chell/GLaDOS's taking the division, piece of cake (not a lie). --- http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3492/eponaharr.jpg Nominate E P O N A. |
Chrono Trigger would wipe the floor with Portal, true story. But seriously, we'll see what happens. --- http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/8516/whatisdesiresig.gif |
To answer your question: Yes, they do. It's the effin' Southwest division, and I could see them, the CT duo, or the vampires winning it all. It's crazy, and I love it. My money's on the bloodsuckers. |
The Southwest division is basically the Ruin division all over again. --- "Go get me Jared...from Subway!" -- CM Punk Future 2011 Rivalry Guru Champion! |
Holy crap, I just now realized that L-Block is in the Character Battle VII banner. Wow. --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
Lawyers
could win the division also. They're in a distant 4th in terms of
probability, but dammit they're the 1-seed and they have a shot. |
whoooooooa nice catch --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.· http://img.imgcake.com/newershadow/derpgifaz.gif |
More
than anything else in the bracket, the SouthWest division still scares
me the most. A lot of potential for upsets. It's going to kill more
brackets than the Samus/Bosses/Trainers/Street Fighter foursome. --- Tofa7 - LoZ-LoD | Hardcore "Thank you, thank you, no applause necessary, just send money..." |
Banking on Phoenix/Gordon. I figure that way if Gordon does win, I'll have a net gain by still being perfect in my bracket AND I'll still have 21k. Also in case Chell/GlaDOS choke I won't have lost much. --- http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/984/rvpi.jpg "I was wrong" - SmartMuffin |
I
took Phoenix/Edgey to win their division, but I admit it's one hell of a
longshot. He's going to need one hell of a boost from the Rivalry
factor and UMvC3 exposure to do it. However, it would be worth it on
the tiny chance to win the Guru/prize money because of Phoenix F'n
Wright. --- "Go get me Jared...from Subway!" -- CM Punk Future 2011 Rivalry Guru Champion! |
I never noticed L-Block there before...well done. --- http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3492/eponaharr.jpg Nominate E P O N A. |
