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#351 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/6/2011 9:38:45 PM | message detail
Kerrigan/Raynor shared that stinker vote-in poll with Gordon, right? Confidence in Phoenix ever-growing.
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#352 | KamikazePotato | Posted 11/6/2011 9:39:03 PM | message detail
it's like no one looks at vote-ins or considers new game releases (Starcraft II) anymore
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#353 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 11/6/2011 9:39:04 PM | message detail

From: EmDubyaSee | #343
Fixed for accuracy. He CLEARLY meant the last time Zelda lost without incredible cheating that our ":amazing" Admin let go.


lol MWC calling the internet caring about our contests cheating

But yeah, I'm really curious about what Link will do when the time comes for him to step out. If he puts out an 85% kill, I'm gonna mark out hard for THE HYLIAN HAMMER. It looks like AntiBlowoutFAQS has gone away for now and I want to see demolitions!
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#354 | red sox 777 | Posted 11/6/2011 9:39:52 PM | message detail
I think Frog/Magus could do very well on Link/Ganondorf. As well as Magus did in 2003, or better even.
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#355 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/6/2011 9:40:36 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #351
Kerrigan/Raynor shared that stinker vote-in poll with Gordon, right? Confidence in Phoenix ever-growing.


Leon/Ada was in that one, too.
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#356 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 11/6/2011 9:40:46 PM | message detail
Anti-BlowoutFAQs might be a problem for judging Link's match. If he doesn't completely kill his opponent, it may not necessarily be due to weakness.
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#357 | The Real Truth | Posted 11/6/2011 9:40:46 PM | message detail
ExThaNemesis posted...
From: The Real Truth | #345
Yeah this match is going to drop below Vincent/Kerrigan numbers. Watch it finish around 76-77%.

Red/Blue is decent for sure, but the Starcraft duo is just that weak. Nobody cares about the characters. I mean, I do, but this site doesn't.
Yeah but this is probably what the Pokemon guys could do in a 24 hour match and they'd be obliterating in a day match, so this is good for them.

We comin for you, Samus


Since you mention Samus, does anyone else expect something like

Ryu/Ken > Red/Blue > Samus/Ridley > Ryu/Ken
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#358 | charmander6000 | Posted 11/6/2011 9:41:06 PM | message detail
85% against Arthas/Illidan isn't that hard to believe, even before the contest began, Arthas looked pretty weak last year and his partner is pretty weak.
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#359 | creativename | Posted 11/6/2011 9:41:10 PM | message detail
What is this "anchor" stuff I see people mentioning?

Interesting talk about Kain instead of Golbez. Golbez is one of my faves but yeah, Cecil/Kain would definitely be the stronger pair, by a good amount. I think they'd do at least 5 points better on the Luigis than Cecil/Golbez.

Possibly even 10 points. Kain is much stronger than Golbez. How many points better do others estimate Cecil/Kain would do against the Luigis?

On Crono, Crono/Lavos got under 58% on Leon/Ada on this vote-in:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4482

Now of course 12-ways are highly unreliable and all that, but that's a big gap to make up - I think the ninjas are probably just stronger than Crono/Lavos. Lavos just kills Crono there. That match with the Snakes is going to get ugly. Unless it's Solid **** vs. sprite Crono :P

It's too bad because I think I'd take Mario/Crono rivalry to win the contest. Alas.
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#360 | ExThaNemesis | Posted 11/6/2011 9:41:34 PM | message detail

From: creativename | #359
What is this "anchor" stuff I see people mentioning?


anchor = the main character of the rivalry.
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#361 | KamikazePotato | Posted 11/6/2011 9:42:07 PM | message detail
Cecil/Kain might beat Luigi/Waluigi. Cecil/Golbez is a much, much tougher sell.
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#362 | ExThaNemesis | Posted 11/6/2011 9:42:17 PM | message detail
Also I am so upset that I didn't go with Phoenix/Edgeworth.

I feel like Phoenix has grown considerably since he lost to Gordon last time, but I got burned there and just couldn't do it.
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#363 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/6/2011 9:42:22 PM | message detail

From: KanzarisKelshen | #353
But yeah, I'm really curious about what Link will do when the time comes for him to step out. If he puts out an 85% kill, I'm gonna mark out hard for THE HYLIAN HAMMER. It looks like AntiBlowoutFAQS has gone away for now and I want to see demolitions!


Haha, yes. We haven't seen THE HAMMER since he put up 70% on Sonic. Dunno how often we'll see it nowadays, though. 2010 suggested that he was beginning to get anti-voted. Of course, it probably won't happen against his BITTER RIVAL Cloud or Nintendo reps he should naturally SFF, but Arthas is neither of those, and it is a night match.
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#364 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/6/2011 9:42:50 PM | message detail
Sub-Zero/Scorpion projected to get 68.22% on Crono/Lavos based on the vote-in, while we're on the subject.

haw haw red sox
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#365 | SabrielAbhorsen | Posted 11/6/2011 9:43:10 PM | message detail
The Real Truth posted...
ExThaNemesis posted...
From: The Real Truth | #345
Yeah this match is going to drop below Vincent/Kerrigan numbers. Watch it finish around 76-77%.

Red/Blue is decent for sure, but the Starcraft duo is just that weak. Nobody cares about the characters. I mean, I do, but this site doesn't.
Yeah but this is probably what the Pokemon guys could do in a 24 hour match and they'd be obliterating in a day match, so this is good for them.

We comin for you, Samus

Since you mention Samus, does anyone else expect something like

Ryu/Ken > Red/Blue > Samus/Ridley > Ryu/Ken


I don't know if I believe that, but I do believe rock-paper-scissors results like that are possible a lot more than other people on this board seem to.
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#366 | Mega_Bieber_Fan | Posted 11/6/2011 9:43:13 PM | message detail
ExThaNemesis posted...
From: creativename | #359
What is this "anchor" stuff I see people mentioning?
anchor = the main character of the rivalry.



Well that doesn't make sense. It should be the opposite, the character who slows down the team. When a ship discharges its anchor, the ship slows down
#367 | NeoElfboy | Posted 11/6/2011 9:43:41 PM | message detail
6 people fell off the Top 50. homura44, DarkHolyElf, BobtheBarbarian, smashbros5000, Shadowwolf1015 and dilpickle31 did not have Sub-Zero vs. Scorpion winning the match.

Gotta love having your failures publicised. :p

Lovin' the Red/Blue showing here, also.
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#368 | pjbasis | Posted 11/6/2011 9:43:58 PM | message detail

From: ExThaNemesis | #360
anchor = the main character of the rivalry.


Eh? I thought the anchor was referring to the weaker entry in the rivalry.

Like it keeps them from moving forward, so to speak.

I guess anchors can also keep things from being blown away too.
#369 | KamikazePotato | Posted 11/6/2011 9:44:04 PM | message detail
If Ryu/Ken get equal or lower on Ratchet/Nefarious, I'm calling Red/Blue the favorite. A blowout from potentially anti-voted Pokemon is more impressive, I think.

Ryu/Ken probably get in the 80s at this rate, though.
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#370 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 11/6/2011 9:44:09 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #358
85% against Arthas/Illidan isn't that hard to believe, even before the contest began, Arthas looked pretty weak last year and his partner is pretty weak.


Yeah, you know what? I think it's totally doable. Arthas is probably stronger than Kerrigan, but Illidan is 100% obscure, way beyond Raynor. And Link is...Link, really. And he has the OoT factor in his back pocket. He's not gonna do 90%, but 85% can be done.
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#371 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/6/2011 9:44:35 PM | message detail
#372 | red sox 777 | Posted 11/6/2011 9:45:03 PM | message detail
Lavos sucks, why can't we have Crono/Crono as a rivalry? That team would have so much in good characters on it that I'm not sure I could stand even watching their matches.
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#373 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/6/2011 9:45:11 PM | message detail
85% on Arthas/Illidian is doable considering Link got 80% on Arthas last year.
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#374 | IngmarBirdman | Posted 11/6/2011 9:45:18 PM | message detail
But yeah, I'm really curious about what Link will do when the time comes for him to step out. If he puts out an 85% kill, I'm gonna mark out hard for THE HYLIAN HAMMER. It looks like AntiBlowoutFAQS has gone away for now and I want to see demolitions!

Oh god think about it:

Link is the site's champ, and his and Ganon's individual strength far exceed Red's (albeit the rivalry part is a variable), and his match is going to basically replay this one: another Blizzard RTS character pairing that will be even less relevant getting blown out.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4481

Arthas picked up an unconvincing 4th here. Harman Smith vs. Kun Lan? Kyo Kusanagi vs. Iori Yagami? Ragna the Bloodedge vs. Jin Kisaragi? Ryo Hazuki vs. Lan Di? This poll is just as bad as the Gordon / Breen one. And he looks like crap in it.
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#375 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 11/6/2011 9:45:53 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #369
If Ryu/Ken get equal or lower on Ratchet/Nefarious, I'm calling Red/Blue the favorite. A blowout from potentially anti-voted Pokemon is more impressive, I think.

Ryu/Ken probably get in the 80s at this rate, though.


Don't be ridiculous KP, Ratchet totally beats Kerrigan. To say that if Ryu and Ken don't equal this performance they're in trouble is OK, but to say a similar result looks bad for them? Takin' it too far IMO.
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#376 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/6/2011 9:46:00 PM | message detail
I've been using it to describe the stronger character, pretty sure. It does fit better for the #2 guy, though.

What should we call the the #1 guy?
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#377 | XIII_rocks | Posted 11/6/2011 9:46:07 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #361
Cecil/Kain might beat Luigi/Waluigi. Cecil/Golbez is a much, much tougher sell.


That. No problems for Luigi imo.
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#378 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/6/2011 9:46:42 PM | message detail
Ratchet would beat Kerrigan nowadays, yeah, but that doesn't mean Ratchet/Nefarious beats Raynor/Kerrigan.
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#379 | red sox 777 | Posted 11/6/2011 9:47:02 PM | message detail
85% on Arthas/Illidian is doable considering Link got 80% on Arthas last year.

How is that? You think Ganon adds more to the team than Illidan? 80 to 85 is a big big gap, it's the same as 50 to 62.5.
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#380 | KamikazePotato | Posted 11/6/2011 9:47:12 PM | message detail
Raynor/Kerrigan vs. Ratchet/Nefarious would be pretty debatable. I'd probably take Kerrigan, if only for recency.
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#381 | Mega_Bieber_Fan | Posted 11/6/2011 9:47:42 PM | message detail
PartOfYourWorld posted...
I've been using it to describe the stronger character, pretty sure. It does fit better for the #2 guy, though.

What should we call the the #1 guy?


The propellor. A ship moves because of the proepller
#382 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/6/2011 9:47:53 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #379
85% on Arthas/Illidian is doable considering Link got 80% on Arthas last year.

How is that? You think Ganon adds more to the team than Illidan? 80 to 85 is a big big gap, it's the same as 50 to 62.5.


RIVALRY FACTOR

It's not as simple as just adding whatever Ganondorf gets to Link to arrive at the number, I think.
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#383 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 11/6/2011 9:48:02 PM | message detail
For reference here are the rivalries that came from each Vote-In poll:

Vote-In 1
Raiden vs. Vamp - 13.98%
Banjo vs. Gruntilda - 11.60%
Yuna vs. Seymour Guado - 11.18%
Laharl vs. Mid-Boss - 9.03%
The Kid vs. The Guy - 8.73%
Earthworm Jim vs. Queen Slug-for-a-Butt - 8.12%

Vote-In 2
Big Boss vs. The Boss - 22.26%
William B.J. Blazkowicz vs. Adolf Hitler - 14.39%
Katherine vs. Catherine - 11.92%
Arthas vs. Illidan - 10.75%
Lloyd Irving vs. Kratos Aurion - 10.16%
Captain Falcon vs. Black Shadow - 9.31%

Vote-In 3
Crono vs. Lavos - 20.79%
Leon Kennedy vs. Ada Wong - 15.14%
Gordon Freeman vs. Dr. Breen - 11.67%
Jim Raynor vs. Sarah Kerrigan - 10.16%
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#384 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 11/6/2011 9:48:08 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #376
I've been using it to describe the stronger character, pretty sure. It does fit better for the #2 guy, though.

What should we call the the #1 guy?


Carry? Engine? Leader? I'm bad at this. :-/
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#385 | The Real Truth | Posted 11/6/2011 9:48:16 PM | message detail
Does anyone actively dislike Ganon? There's no reason to downvote Link because Ganon is in the poll.
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#386 | IngmarBirdman | Posted 11/6/2011 9:48:21 PM | message detail
I don't know if I believe that, but I do believe rock-paper-scissors results like that are possible a lot more than other people on this board seem to.

Brawl > Melee > MM > Brawl ( !! )
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#387 | red sox 777 | Posted 11/6/2011 9:48:44 PM | message detail
RIVALRY FACTOR

It's not as simple as just adding whatever Ganondorf gets to Link to arrive at the number, I think.


That doesn't help Link. Ganondorf is a terrible rival.
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#388 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/6/2011 9:48:49 PM | message detail

From: The Real Truth | #385
Does anyone actively dislike Ganon?


Hi.
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#389 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/6/2011 9:49:05 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #387
That doesn't help Link. Ganondorf is a terrible rival.


I doubt most of GameFAQs thinks so.
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#390 | Colegreen_c12 | Posted 11/6/2011 9:49:15 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #376
I've been using it to describe the stronger character, pretty sure. It does fit better for the #2 guy, though.

What should we call the the #1 guy?


Sail
#391 | AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 11/6/2011 9:49:23 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #376
I've been using it to describe the stronger character, pretty sure. It does fit better for the #2 guy, though.

What should we call the the #1 guy?


The Headliner.
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#392 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/6/2011 9:49:49 PM | message detail
#393 | KamikazePotato | Posted 11/6/2011 9:49:57 PM | message detail
Even if Gordon wasn't in that poll, I'd be very worried for him right about now. Western characters are getting rocked so far.
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#394 | XIII_rocks | Posted 11/6/2011 9:50:19 PM | message detail
The captain
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#395 | ExThaNemesis | Posted 11/6/2011 9:50:23 PM | message detail
I actually like calling the lead the anchor, because he 'anchors the team' and holds them firm and keeps them from blowing away.
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#396 | AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 11/6/2011 9:50:31 PM | message detail

From: Colegreen_c12 | #390
Sail


I also thought this at first. Needs a windwaker pic to go with it.
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#397 | red sox 777 | Posted 11/6/2011 9:50:36 PM | message detail
I doubt most of GameFAQs thinks so.

Rest assured they do. Given how popular Legend of Zelda is here, if Ganon wasn't not liked, he's be Noble Niner strength easily.
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#398 | Greyfeld | Posted 11/6/2011 9:51:02 PM | message detail
pjbasis posted...
From: ExThaNemesis | #360
anchor = the main character of the rivalry.
Eh? I thought the anchor was referring to the weaker entry in the rivalry.

Like it keeps them from moving forward, so to speak.

I guess anchors can also keep things from being blown away too.


I think it makes more sense for the second character (whether weak or strong) to be the "anchor." I see it as relay race terminology, where the anchor is the last person to run.
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#399 | EmDubyaSee | Posted 11/6/2011 9:51:39 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #392
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#400 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/6/2011 9:52:08 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #397
Rest assured they do. Given how popular Legend of Zelda is here, if Ganon wasn't not liked, he's be Noble Niner strength easily.


It doesn't really matter as long as he's linked with Link.
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