GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1012
From: TheCodeisBosco | #044 Except they are not. Gary and Ash (And Satoshi and Shigeru in Japan) are also their default names, so yeah, they are the the same --- From: Regaro_Ukiera | MWC is god-tier |
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We
already saw Raynor/Kerrigan in the vote-ins, and they got 32% on
Crono/Lavos. Red/Blue could do very well and not meet the expectations
everyone is setting for them because they still equate Kerrigan with
what happened 5 years ago. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
From: junk_funk | #002 No, it really doesn't, Mr. Confirmation Bias. Ada Wong vs Scorpion is not nearly this big a beatdown. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
Or was it 6 years ago? Whatever. Before Starcraft 2. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
Actually, let me make this easier. Raynor/Kerrigan almost beat Gordon/Breen in the vote-ins. How badly do you think Red/Blue beat Gordon/Breen? --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
From: Greyfeld | #050 Really, cause Ocarina of Time, FF VII, SM 64, SMW, Super Metroid, Chrono Trigger, MGS, MGS 3, and MGS 4 disagree, ALOT. The only real exception of the characters that matter are Megaman 2 or Sonic the Hedgehog. And the problem there is we don't really know how strong they are because they were utterly massacred by Zelda and Mario. --- From: Regaro_Ukiera | MWC is god-tier |
lol I find it highly amusing that some people are still trying to convince themselves that the rivalry factor doesn't exist. --- PSN - Aevio BlackMageJawa - "I'm on a Goomba." |
Wow. 73%? It looks like Resident Evil has taken a tumble since last contest, and voters really care about the rivalries. --- 90s games > 00s games |
From: KamikazePotato | #055 I wasn't convinced with the Crono/Lavos talk, but this is interesting, actually. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
Actually, guess what else was in that vote-in poll! http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4482 This entire poll looks like ASS now. Phoenix is coming for you, Gordon. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
From: PartOfYourWorld | #048 Yep. Pkmn trainers aren't breaking 70% --- ~ Rivalry Rumble Oracle Challenge ~ Rank - 61st Today's Prediction: Subby/Scorp - 60.14% |
Rivalry factor exists and and if they cancel each other out, then the rivalry from the stronger game wins. --- Black: 3310-7431-2094 |
Also,
if rivalry factor exists, that makes it harder for Red/Blue to blow out
Raynor/Kerrigan. Unlike the fakers that got blown out today,
Raynor/Kerrigan is actually a really great rivalry among those who know
it. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
14_and_counting posted... From: TheCodeisBosco | #044 14_and_counting posted... From: TheCodeisBosco | #033 If the Trainers beat Ryu/Ken because of rivalry factor, that's really depressing. The only thing the trainers have going for them are awesome match pics. The characters themselves kind of suck. Gary ****ING Oak. And you will respect his girth. Know your place Knave. Gary and Blue are different. Gary was pretty damn funny. Blue has "SMELL YA LATER," a cool conspiracy theory about his Raticate, and absolutely nothing else. Except they are not. Gary and Ash (And Satoshi and Shigeru in Japan) are also their default names, so yeah, they are the the same I didn't word that last post well, sorry! I agree that they're the same character, but the portrayal in the TV show and the portrayal in the video games are quite different. In the TV series, Gary's pretty funny; but he's straight-up bland in the games! And Red/Ash isn't good in any form. --- "Claire likes to say 'You can be part of the problem, or part of the solution.' But I happen to believe you can be both." - Phil Dunphy |
From: KamikazePotato | #063 Lol PC games on GameFAQs. --- Black: 3310-7431-2094 |
Red has more personality in three ellipses than Ryu and Ken have in all of their games combined. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
From: KamikazePotato | #060 Awww man so many genuinely good rivalries in that poll getting shut out. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://img.imgcake.com/Icon/Punkjpguh.jpg |
From: KamikazePotato | #066 Ryu, maybe I'll buy this as a jab. But Ken? What the hell is wrong with you? --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
From: TheCodeisBosco | #044 You make it sound like Ryu and Ken are oozing with personality and can surpass this. >_> --- (\__/) Meet Ziggy,the Evil Bunny who wants to take over the world and eat the flesh of the weak. (='.'=] Put Ziggy in your sig to support his cause. |
Ken
sucks. The problem with Ryu and Ken is that they speak. You know how
bland they are. Red being silent combined with the little bits of story
the games gives me lets me imagine much more. Same thing with a guy like
Crono! --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
KamikazePotato posted... Red has more personality in three ellipses than Ryu and Ken have in all of their games combined. I will admit, Red's cameo in GSC was really, really cool. --- "Claire likes to say 'You can be part of the problem, or part of the solution.' But I happen to believe you can be both." - Phil Dunphy |
14_and_counting posted... Really, cause Ocarina of Time, FF VII, SM 64, SMW, Super Metroid, Chrono Trigger, MGS, MGS 3, and MGS 4 disagree, ALOT. The only real exception of the characters that matter are Megaman 2 or Sonic the Hedgehog. And the problem there is we don't really know how strong they are because they were utterly massacred by Zelda and Mario. You mean the MGS 4 that lost to Shadow of the Colossus in last year's GOTD, despite Wander being turbofodder? The fact that those games do well in contests is not directly related to character strength. There's a correlation, not a causation. You're completely glossing over Dante, Ryu, Kratos, Kirby, L-block (and a number of others), being blatantly stronger than their games. Or how Tidus, Liquid Snake, GlaDos, etc etc being a hell of a lot weaker than their games. --- PSN - Aevio BlackMageJawa - "I'm on a Goomba." |
Bit
of a shame how Squall/Seifer are placed, if rivalrys really are that
big of a factor that duo could have done some serious damage if it had
anyone else in the last 8. --- Smurf, the cream of Sonic fanboyism |
Ken's personality is better than pretty much every human Pokemon character combined. So S Rank. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
Ken is like Dante if Dante sucked. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
I'm willing to have a sig bet with someone over Red/Ryu --- Game of the decade? More like Guru of the decade mirite? |
Arg why am I considering banking on Luigi --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
Red is like Crono if Crono sucked more. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
Your face is like a face. If it sucked. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
Ryu/Ken
is a much bigger rivalry in the video game world than Red/Blue, and if
people don't realize that I question how much they even know about video
game culture/history. And this is coming from someone that barely even
plays video games anymore. --- "Ahem! There is *sand* on my *boot*!"--Kefka This is Yesmar. |
From: Greyfeld | #072 I'm not glossing over anything. I said in my last post, of the characters that matter, then I put the 9 strongest. If you want you can add the high tier square characters, and the other high tier (Zelda, Ganondorf, Bowser, Luigi, X, etc) characters the same thing still happens. Only when you get passed the really strong characters do you find that character is not roughly equal to games for strength. Either Pikachu or Dante is the first exception, (one being weaker, the other being stronger than their games) but they are also #20 or worse on the site strength list. --- From: Regaro_Ukiera | MWC is god-tier |
From: LOLContests | #080 Why would you add that last line which discredits everything you said before it? --- Smurf, the cream of Sonic fanboyism |
I'm
actually worried Luigi/Waluigi receive some sort of rivalry boost. The
rivalries we've seen do well so far are things that are very obviously
known rivalries. As bad as Luigi/Waluigi is, it's way more well-known
than Cecil/Golbez. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
Greyfeld posted... You're completely glossing over Dante, Ryu, Kratos, Kirby, L-block (and a number of others), being blatantly stronger than their games. Or how Tidus, Liquid Snake, GlaDos, etc etc being a hell of a lot weaker than their games. Just a lurker here, but I'm surprised nobody's talking about this match's implication for Dante/Vergil vs. Sora/Riku. If long-standing rivalries seem to be the key to doing well this contest, Sora/Riku are by far the heavy favorites. Which sucks for my bracket. Crap. --- Drop it to the floor... |
From: kinsho3 | #084 If Rivalries actually mater, SoraRiku should win the division. As much as Squall and Seifer sorta kinda had an intense rivalry (and would have been way better with competent writers) in the it is simply lacking. Sora Riku however, --- From: Regaro_Ukiera | MWC is god-tier |
Just
a lurker here, but I'm surprised nobody's talking about this match's
implication for Dante/Vergil vs. Sora/Riku. If long-standing rivalries
seem to be the key to doing well this contest, Sora/Riku are by far the
heavy favorites. Which sucks for my bracket. Crap. Maybe I'm wrong but I didn't think either of those rivalries were significantly older than the other. --- Pokemon VGC2011 NW Regional - Top 8 Pokemon VGC2011 US Nationals - 54th place |
Or it could be that it's not about how long standing it is but how good it is. Dante/Vergil is a better rivalry than Sora/Riku. I wouldn't give up on that one yet. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
And yeah technically Dante/Vergil has a year or two on Sora/Riku. Though if you wanna remove technicality it's the other way around. Still not a huge edge either way --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
Team Rocket Elite posted... Maybe I'm wrong but I didn't think either of those rivalries were significantly older than the other. That's true, but the Sora/Riku rivalry is definitely more established across the KH series. Dante/Vergil is a one-time thing (if you don't count Nelo Angelo from DMC1) --- Drop it to the floor... |
BT: That's a bet I'll have to take. --- Space for Rent! |
Lopen posted... Dante/Vergil is a better rivalry than Sora/Riku. Same reason why I went with them in my bracket. I see Sora/Riku less as rivals and more as great material for yaoi fanfics. --- Drop it to the floor... |
To
think, we will be seeing a repeat of this round two when X-Zero trashes
Bartz-Gilgamesh and Sub-Scorpion trashes DK-KRool. It also seems like
their round 2 opponents are weaker... --- "Getting lucky 100% of the time... it's called PRO SKILL." -BlAcK TuRtLe |
14_and_counting posted... I'm not glossing over anything. I said in my last post, of the characters that matter, then I put the 9 strongest. If you want you can add the high tier square characters, and the other high tier (Zelda, Ganondorf, Bowser, Luigi, X, etc) characters the same thing still happens. Only when you get passed the really strong characters do you find that character is not roughly equal to games for strength. Either Pikachu or Dante is the first exception, (one being weaker, the other being stronger than their games) but they are also #20 or worse on the site strength list. Then you admit that Red isn't as strong as RBY. --- PSN - Aevio BlackMageJawa - "I'm on a Goomba." |
From: IngmarBirdman | #092 Except this time in 24-hour matches. Joy. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://img.imgcake.com/Icon/Punkjpguh.jpg |
KamikazePotato posted... I'm actually worried Luigi/Waluigi receive some sort of rivalry boost. The rivalries we've seen do well so far are things that are very obviously known rivalries. As bad as Luigi/Waluigi is, it's way more well-known than Cecil/Golbez. You still think Luigi's going to beat Cecil? I haven't played FF4 all the way through, so I don't know how much of a rivalry the latter is. But Cecil is only about 30 spots behind Luigi in the x-stats. With the massive boosts we've seen rivalries give, getting dragged down by Waluigi could mean a round-1 upset for the green plumber. --- PSN - Aevio BlackMageJawa - "I'm on a Goomba." |
Pretty sure Waluigi > Golbez in a 1-on-1. No way of knowing for sure but that's my pick. Cecil/Kain is a more interesting rivalry than Cecil/Golbez anyway. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://img.imgcake.com/Icon/Punkjpguh.jpg |
Red
is not as strong as RBY, that much is a given. Red vs. Blue, on the
other hand, is much much closer in strength to the games I believe, as
do many others. I'll go out on a limb and say this also, despite being an iconic rivalry, I can't imagine that helping Ryu/Ken much against Red/Blue. I don't think Ryu/Ken will draw in any voters that Ryu wouldn't by himself, at least not against an equally iconic rivalry in the form of Red/Blue. (I would even call Red/Blue more iconic.) |
I
have a feeling the format of the poll benefits characters that fight
each other in their games. Sub-Zero VS Scorpion and Leon VS Ada. I've
never played RE4, but do Leon and Ada ever actually fight each other?
Meanwhile, in a fighting game, all the characters ever do is fight each
other. I think Ryu/Ken will also have a lot of success. Competitive
rivalries > friendly rivalries. It shouldn't be called the rivalry
factor, it should be the versus factor. |
Sub/Scorpion are killing it. Gives me hope for my Ryu > Samus upset! Woo! --- peace comes from within |
pyresword posted... Red is not as strong as RBY, that much is a given. Red vs. Blue, on the other hand, is much much closer in strength to the games I believe, as do many others. I'll go out on a limb and say this also, despite being an iconic rivalry, I can't imagine that helping Ryu/Ken much against Red/Blue. I don't think Ryu/Ken will draw in any voters that Ryu wouldn't by himself, at least not against an equally iconic rivalry in the form of Red/Blue. (I would even call Red/Blue more iconic.) I said the exact same thing about X/Zero, and then they quadrupled the catherines. --- PSN - Aevio BlackMageJawa - "I'm on a Goomba." |
