GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1012
Why
is everyone calling Link/Ganondorf's head so early? I assume everybody
is assuming it's because of the "rivalries matter" factor? It also seems some people mean it differently from others.. some people say "rivalries matter" as in the actual quality of the rivalry while others actually mean the strength of both characters (or how much of a leech the weaker character is). I still see no reason Link/Ganondorf pickers should worry simply because it's Zelda. Again, the series contest had the same premise. Unknown format and an assumed factor of "individual sums are stronger than the whole". The only difference is that FF7 was probably the strongest game at that point (and maybe just barely). Now FF7 has faded away and OoT took that title, so then you have to ask.. why wouldn't the site's favorite game, favorite series, and favorite character not also win the favorite rivalry? Edit: oh, and I'm mostly referring to the ol' Cloud/Link final stuff. Mario/Bowser or some other possible bandwagon is entirely possible, but an FF7 bandwagon will never happen anyway. --- *is Dranze* I lost my girl and lost to Black Turtle. Can't get worse. |
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Feelin'
good about my Ryu > Samus pick. Also loving that rivalries are
proving to be important, makes for a much better contest. --- peace comes from within |
As a person that supported Charizard in the last character contest...I feel confidence to say Pokemon Trainer Red>Ryu/Ken Pokemon is a beast,and most people don't know it That's why I was one of those 3% that picked Charizard over Bowser...and I picked Red over Ryu/Ken and over Samus Ridley |
From: MarioSuperstar | #451 I think it's as I go over above - some seam to assume this is a "tag team" type strength distribution. Where the strength of the team is based on only the strengths of the entrants, and certain teams have bombed just because their weakest link was so weak. But I don't think it is is accurate. I think it is largely the rivalry itself that is being judged here. For instance, Crono/Lavos, I believe that rather than Crono PLUS Lavos (a tag-team) this entrant is being judged as "Crono vs. Lavos" (the rivalry). And thus, you can have a rivalry weaker than it's strongest character, because people don't respect/love the rivalry. From: MarioSuperstar | #451I still see no reason Link/Ganondorf pickers should worry simply because it's Zelda. There should be some concern and there should always have been some concern. I think people were overconfident in Link, and think many still are. I'm still not sold that Link/Ganon will be viewed as some legendary rivalry. Now Link's own strength could carry them to victory, but he could well lose. We're still not sure of the dynamics of this contest, and we don't really know how people are going to rate the Link/Ganon rivalry itself. And I don't think Skyward Sword will be a deciding factor. From: ZFS | #452 Yeah despite the rivalry thing, I wouldn't really change anything about my bracket except maybe this. I think I'd switch to SF>Metroid. Now I have Cloud/Seph winning even though I favor Link, but I think that's a very good gamble. On the rest in debated matches I have Phoenix>Gordon and I was never worried about that, Bosses>FFX (wouldn't be shocked by an upset by the Bosses should be favored) and Frog/Magus>vampires. The vampires might win but I see that as CT's match to lose. Frog/Magus is like the rivalry to end all rivalries in terms of awesomeness, plus the low vote totals favor CT rallying. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
I don't know about the majoriy but I vote for the characters as "tag team" and not rivalry >_> Maybe im a rare case...I dunno |
To
put it bluntly, I think people are simply going to vote on what they
like the best. If they are a zelda fan, they're going to take Link no
matter what the rivalry. If they think frog/magus are really cool
together, they'll probably take them over Alucard, even if they might
like Alucard more against either of them individually. Having a good or
iconic rivalry is important, but I don't see a lot of these fighting
game rivalries holding a candle to the bigger Nintendo names. Sure,
they'll blow away most fodder that doesn't have that same iconic status,
but I think that's where they'll stop. --- "I am riding the Poke-wave, using the metaphorical Surf and hopping on my Blastoise, all the way to Mario vs Bowser." - RPGLord |
Red/Blue
looks to be about as strong as Sub/Scorp based on that one vote-in
poll. very unreliable, but it's something to look at. nice showing from
them. I think the Ryu/Ken match is a tossup at the moment. we'll see where they're at after Ryu and Ken get their turn. Pokemon just seems like a bigger deal than SF here and the word 'rival' means Pokemon for a lot of people here. I think those two matchups and Sub/Scorp are probably the three best examples of 'rivalry' in this contest. --- xyzzy |
So
glad I took Red/Blue to the semi finals. Not afraid about the Street
Fighter duo at all to be quite honest, ill take a team from an RPG over a
team from a fighter any day of the week on this site. I seem to have a knack at reading the strength of Pokemon entries in contests. I was one of the few who correctly realized Gold/Silver would get its ass handed to it by Majora's Mask, and since a lot of people got burnt by that pick, they were afraid to take the Trainers far in this contest, when in fact this contest format and the whole "rivalries" thing is going to boost them to crazy levels. Red/Blue to the semi's where they might even challenge Mario/Bowser. Book it. --- Tofa7 - LoZ-LoD | Hardcore "Thank you, thank you, no applause necessary, just send money..." |
And
for people saying Ryu/Ken is THE RIVALRY, it's obviously not the case
on GameFAQs. They didn't even get a top 2 seed. Meanwhile, take a look
at where the trainers are. The match is far from a lock since we haven't seen what what Ryu/Ken can do, but at this stage it can be said with a certain amount of confidence that the Trainers are objectively the favorites. --- Tofa7 - LoZ-LoD | Hardcore "Thank you, thank you, no applause necessary, just send money..." |
I
don't think we can call anyone a favorite until Ryu and Ken actually
appear. Even then, they'd have to suck real hard not to blow away
Ratchet and Nefarious. --- "Go get me Jared...from Subway!" -- CM Punk Future 2011 Rivalry Guru Champion! |
who wins, Raynor/Kerrigan or Ratchet/Nefarious? --- xyzzy |
I was sure about Ryu/Ken before.Now I see I picked wrong.This site loves RPG's even if its Pokemon.Sure a relic site... --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
From: transience | #461 Ratchet in a perfect world. Cannot believe I picked Luigi to beat these two. i es dum --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.· http://img.imgcake.com/r7767716653758jpgba.jpg |
-Tofa7- posted... And for people saying Ryu/Ken is THE RIVALRY, it's obviously not the case on GameFAQs. They didn't even get a top 2 seed. Meanwhile, take a look at where the trainers are. The match is far from a lock since we haven't seen what what Ryu/Ken can do, but at this stage it can be said with a certain amount of confidence that the Trainers are objectively the favorites. Except Ryu/Ken got in largely without any Board 8 support. Your argument kinda falls apart when you realize Phoenix/Edgeworth and the Guru nom are both 1 seeds. --- Game of the Decade? More like Guru of the Decade mirite? |
All
this trainer talk is giving me flashbacks to Majora vs. G/S/C. There is
really no reason to think that Ryu/Ken would lose to them. Not only is
Ryu > Red and Ken > Blue, but Ryu/Ken is one of the most prominent
rivalries in gaming history. Certainly moreso than Sub/Scorp, and you
saw what they did. This will be a 55/45 win for the SF guys. --- Game of the Decade? More like Guru of the Decade mirite? |
Yeah,
I don't like the seeding argument. It just doesn't hold much weight,
and never has. Board 8 holds a fair amount of sway during those, more so
than the actual contest, and I couldn't get anyone to nominate Ryu/Ken
here because 'they're guaranteed to get in,' so yeah. I seem to remember
the Pokemon dudes as one if the most nominated pairs here, but maybe
I'm wrong. In any case, they don't bother me. I don't think they compare to Ryu/Ken; didn't before the contest, don't now! People saying their favorites before Ryu/Ken have their match are getting way ahead if themselves, but I know people have a tendency to do this with Pokemon! --- peace comes from within |
It'll
be hilarious after so much RIVALRY FACTOR if Ryu/Ken only gets like 65%
on Ratchet/Nefarious then Fox/Wolf break 70% on Yuna. --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png http://i.imgur.com/FII1z.gif |
Fox/Wolf > Yuna/Seymour representin' I wouldn't be too surprised if Fox wins that with a fairly large percentage. --- peace comes from within |
I do think it'll be funny when the board calls for Ryu/Ken's head if they fail to triple. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Rivalry Rumble: 6/6 Today: Donkey Kong/King K. Rool & Sub-Zero/Scorpion |
The updator seems a bit wonky, here's the 9:13 update that it missed. 9:13 77.12 - 20178 22.88 - 5988 --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Rivalry Rumble: 6/6 Today: Donkey Kong/King K. Rool & Sub-Zero/Scorpion |
Good job catching that update. I wasn't even paying any attention to the updater for quite a while. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as BlAcK TuRtLe, Guru Champ! |
Match X: (4) Luigi/Waluigi vs. (5) Cecil Harvey/Golbez Previous Contest Luigi – 2010 65.70% against Meta Knight 59.59% against Amaterasu 64.84% against Weighted Companion Cube 28.87% against Link Waluigi – N/A N/A Cecil Harvey – 2010 48.00% against Knuckles the Echidna Golbez – N/A N/A Analysis If there’s one pair that got a lot of heat for not being a rivalry it is Luigi and Waluigi and I’m not sure why. Yes they aren’t the best rivalry, but the whole basis of Waluigi’s creation was to give Luigi a more antagonist rival. Some people feel that Waluigi could drag the pair down due to anti-votes, however I see Waluigi being the type of character that people love to hate so unlike some characters where people actively anti-vote them the worst I see Waluigi doing is getting voter apathy. Cecil was able to look pretty good against Knuckles last contest and even though we don’t know where Knuckles exactly ranks we can guess a general area based on Shadow and other Sonic characters performance last year. Even if the Dissidia boost held up for almost two years since we last saw him Luigi would have no problem dealing with Knuckles and Golbez is probably not strong enough to make up the gap by adding strength or using rivalry factor. Luigi and Waluigi need to look as good as possible in order to have a chance against the Pokemon trainers. The pair is almost running on Luigi’s strength, but showing that Waluigi does not hinder or cause anti-votes to Luigi will be a good start for their prospects in the second round, but to have any real chance they would have to harness the power of rivalry factor. charmander6000’s Bracket: Luigi/Waluigi > Cecil Harvey/Golbez charmander6000’s Prediction: Luigi/Waluigi wins, 61.24% - 38.76% --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Rivalry Rumble: 6/6 Today: Donkey Kong/King K. Rool & Sub-Zero/Scorpion |
Did we see a Pokemon rally very early? Votals are much, much lower than the first 15 minutes would have expected. |
Not
sure why you think so, but I wouldn't be surprised if more of the board
was present because it had characters that they care about. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Rivalry Rumble: 6/6 Today: Donkey Kong/King K. Rool & Sub-Zero/Scorpion |
I guess it's possible that today's match was slightly frontloaded at the beginning of the match. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as BlAcK TuRtLe, Guru Champ! |
Haven't been around since Saturday.... *looks at Sub-Zero/Scorp's score* WHOOOOOOAAAAA!!!!! Suddenly X/Zero look vulnerable! However, X/Zero looped fantastic themselves, so I think they should be fine. It's becoming increasing clear that there teams can mean a lot more than just a sum of their parts. One thing's for sure: Phoenix/Edgeworth is looking a lot more promising now. If they manage to lose.......... Who do you take, Jill/Nemesis or Leon/Ada? 'cause if Leon/Ada wins that, dang, Kirby/Meta Knight would be weaksauce! Red/Blue looks impressive today, and they're looking great to beat Wa/Luigi next round, but I would still expect Ryu/Ken to take them down. If Sub/Scorp does that great, why not Ryu/Ken? Really, at this point, I'm curious to see if Ryu/Ken is capable of taking out Samus/Ridley. --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
Fox / Wolf is a lock now --- The return of...Me_Pie_Three BlAcK TuRtLe didn't even need to return |
charmander6000 posted... Not sure why you think so, but I wouldn't be surprised if more of the board was present because it had characters that they care about. After Sub-Zero/Scorpion's performance, I'm sure a lot of the board is curious to see how Red/Blue would do. --- This signature is signed by Dr. Football |
ZFS posted... Yeah, I don't like the seeding argument. It just doesn't hold much weight, and never has. Board 8 holds a fair amount of sway during those, more so than the actual contest, and I couldn't get anyone to nominate Ryu/Ken here because 'they're guaranteed to get in,' so yeah. I seem to remember the Pokemon dudes as one if the most nominated pairs here, but maybe I'm wrong. In any case, they don't bother me. I don't think they compare to Ryu/Ken; didn't before the contest, don't now! People saying their favorites before Ryu/Ken have their match are getting way ahead if themselves, but I know people have a tendency to do this with Pokemon! the Poke trainers were in the top 5 most nommed along with things like X Zero Mario Sonic and Phoenix/Edgey --- Want to listen to more video game music every day? Check out the VGMusicoftheDay Youtube Channel sometime! |
Anyone
else worrying about this next match? I first thought Luigi/Waluigi were
locks, but seeing recent matches is really making me worry. Their
rivalry is horrible, while Cecil/Golbez have a much better rivalry...
and its not like FF4 is lacking in playrate with all of its re-releases. --- http://raptr.com/badge/cf898f37d9c30ef120ada6c35e636ad3/fs.png http://myanimelist.net/signature/RyanSaotome.png |
charmander6000 posted... I do think it'll be funny when the board calls for Ryu/Ken's head if they fail to triple. Unfortunately, if they fail to triple, I dare say that Red/Blue may have the advantage. I might take Ratchet/Nefarious to beat Raynor/Kerrigan, but not by a whole hell of a lot. --- PSN - Aevio "I'm on a Goomba." - BlackMageJawa |
Wii_TuRtLe posted... All this trainer talk is giving me flashbacks to Majora vs. G/S/C. There is really no reason to think that Ryu/Ken would lose to them. Not only is Ryu > Red and Ken > Blue, but Ryu/Ken is one of the most prominent rivalries in gaming history. Certainly moreso than Sub/Scorp, and you saw what they did. This will be a 55/45 win for the SF guys. This is really nothing like that. At least ot yet. I was a huge proponent of MM>GSC early on, but that match had factors going into it that have yet to appear in this one. For starters, and by far the most important thing, we haven't seen any indication of how Ryu and Ken would do yet. Hell, we can't even rule out the possibility that they'll lose to Fox and Wolf yet! Calm down, and let's see how it goes tomorrow before we call it one way or the other. Of course, there were other factors that put GSC into question, such as its seeding (affects Ryu and Ken), the rest of its series disappointing, it not crushing two games it should have annihilated... At least for now, this really isn't like last year at all. --- Something something something ^Poorly disguised anti-caps sig |
Hell, we can't even rule out the possibility that they'll lose to Fox and Wolf yet! Just like we can't rule out the possibility that Link loses to Arthas --- http://raptr.com/badge/cf898f37d9c30ef120ada6c35e636ad3/fs.png http://myanimelist.net/signature/RyanSaotome.png |
^5 Time for Luigi to say goodbye as he struggles to put Cecil away. |
Cecil/? will not even break 30% --- .... |
Luigi vs. Waluigi 100% 10 Cecil Harvey vs. Golbez 0% 0 TOTAL VOTES 10 lol --- Moltar Status: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60859552 Contest Analysis Crew Archives: http://thecrew.speedrunwiki.com/ |
Luigi vs. Waluigi 100% 12 Cecil Harvey vs. Golbez 0% 0 TOTAL VOTES 12 DAT MEAN PURPLE BOARD VOTE --- Yoblazer: http://8board.webs.com/ariel.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
I always love the opening votes. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Rivalry Rumble: 6/6 Today: Donkey Kong/King K. Rool & Sub-Zero/Scorpion |
Vote Accepted Luigi vs. Waluigi 92.31% 12 Cecil Harvey vs. Golbez 7.69% 1 TOTAL VOTES 13 First vote for Cecil. --- Praise the Black Turtle, Game of the Decade Guru Champ. (Well, I never promised creativity, did I?!) |
whoa, a match that could actually be close!? --- ~ Rivalry Rumble Oracle Challenge ~ Rank - 37th Today's Prediction: Red/Blue - 72.95% |
Luigi vs. Waluigi 65.85% 27 Cecil Harvey vs. Golbez 34.15% 14 TOTAL VOTES 41 Blowout faqs. --- Space for Rent! |
Cecil may have an outside shot here... --- http://raptr.com/badge/cf898f37d9c30ef120ada6c35e636ad3/fs.png http://myanimelist.net/signature/RyanSaotome.png |
ya go my cecil |
Oh man, Team Square have arrived. --- Yoblazer: http://i32.tinypic.com/zlf1w7.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
God damn I wish this was a night match. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
damn ;0 my Luigi>Trainers pick is not looking good --- .... |
Cloud > Link, BRING IT --- I wish I could wear skirts and dresses :( -GMUN |
Not looking good for Luigi/Waluigi --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Rivalry Rumble: 6/6 Today: Donkey Kong/King K. Rool & Sub-Zero/Scorpion |
Dat anti-Waluigi board vote --- KingBartz: Oracle Ranked #73 Bracket is 7/8 with today's pick being Red/Blue |
looks good for Cloud though --- .... |
