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#401 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/6/2011 12:34:03 AM | message detail
Yeah, that 15k includes everything. I know TRE has a list of total brackets entered per contest, and I assume Luster has some average of the votals for last year's contest. I don't think the difference will be significant - definitely nowhere near big enough for anyone to suggest they've actually affected a match result. We haven't even seen one winner dip below 58% yet.

Actually, we may not get a reasonably close match until Boss/Tidus. Failing that, we wait for Phoenix/Gordon.
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#402 | ZFS | Posted 11/6/2011 12:41:32 AM | message detail
i refuse to believe big boss vs. tidus is a close match. look at this, look at this

http://i.imgur.com/K4yki.jpg
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#403 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/6/2011 12:44:57 AM | message detail
I agree, but barring that, we might not get anything closer than 55/45 until Phoenix (I think Yuna's gonna get killed). Tidus/Jecht could have won a match or two with better bracket placement.
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#404 | ffmasterjose | Posted 11/6/2011 12:57:27 AM | message detail
*Sees poll results*

Uuuugh, on the wrong side of another debatable match. Damn :(
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#405 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 11/6/2011 1:12:45 AM | message detail | (edited)
I'll admit that Donkey Kong's predilection to be the casual favorite in any match is the biggest reason why I stuck with Ezio here. Also because I knew that both of these rivalries were little more than hero/villain rivalries, and I thought that the more recent of those rivalries would have the advantage.

Does King K. Rool appear in any games outside of Donkey Kong Country and his SSBM trophy? I wouldn't know. I'll also admit that I thought Donkey Kong Country Returns would not matter because King K. Rool shouldn't have been in that game since DK squared off against Tikis instead of Kremlings. Also after Altair burned me last year I didn't want to underestimate Assassin's Creed again.

This is the second "character" contest in a row (and second overall for me) where my first missed match involved Assassin's Creed. Except this time, Assassin's Creed was the one not to trust.
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#406 | th3l3fty | Posted 11/6/2011 1:21:34 AM | message detail
K.Rool was the villain in Donkey Kong 64 as well
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#407 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/6/2011 1:24:05 AM | message detail
King K. Rool is generally exclusive to the Donkey Kong series. He has a trophy in Brawl and is in Mario Super Sluggers - two bonus inclusions that likely do nothing for his popularity. From what I can remember, he functions as little more than a comical last boss in the DK games. Donkey Kong is not a particularly strong entrant, and KKR should bring very, very little to the team. I don't think these guys are winning because of strength. They're winning because the two of them are simply more recognizable, up against a rivalry that is unrecognizable and meaningless to GameFAQs.

Actually, this result makes me a little worried about Chell/GlaDOS. Some parallels can be drawn between that upcoming match and this one.
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#408 | Sorozone | Posted 11/6/2011 1:28:23 AM | message detail
Portal series seems to get a lot more love around all boards compared to what I see for the AC series.
#409 | redrocket | Posted 11/6/2011 1:44:07 AM | message detail
ZFS posted...
i refuse to believe big boss vs. tidus is a close match. look at this, look at this

http://i.imgur.com/K4yki.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/SDc1o.jpg



Also, this:

http://img.imgcake.com/Cerryl/big_snakex1.jpg
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#410 | Lightning Strikes | Posted 11/6/2011 1:10:09 AM | message detail
*Wakes up, sees poll results*

...

*smirk*

And they said I was mad.

Now if only I'd entered the damn guru or done anything with my bracket, then I'd be in business.
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#411 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/6/2011 1:23:17 AM | message detail
Glad I banked. And yeah, this contest is showing us both characters have to be strong.

Cloud/Seph might actually pull this thing off.
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#412 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/6/2011 1:27:18 AM | message detail

From: ZFS | #402
i refuse to believe big boss vs. tidus is a close match. look at this, look at this

http://i.imgur.com/K4yki.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/SDc1o.jpg


Best post ever made.

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#413 | Molitheus | Posted 11/6/2011 1:29:24 AM | message detail
UltimaterializerX posted...
Glad I banked. And yeah, this contest is showing us both characters have to be strong.

Cloud/Seph might actually pull this thing off.


i doubt it, i have Sora/Riku beating Cloud/Seph in the quarterfinals
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#414 | nintendogirl1 (Moderator) | Posted 11/6/2011 1:31:49 AM | message detail
From: Molitheus | #413
UltimaterializerX posted...
Glad I banked. And yeah, this contest is showing us both characters have to be strong.

Cloud/Seph might actually pull this thing off.


i doubt it, i have Sora/Riku beating Cloud/Seph in the quarterfinals


Then you're not gonna win the contest, because you don't know what you're talking about.
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#415 | Molitheus | Posted 11/6/2011 1:36:52 AM | message detail
^the Final Fantasy series are overrated just as Kingdoms Hearts series but Kingdom Hearts is more popular. a lot of people expect Cloud/Seph to win but then again, they were only in one game and fought only a few times. not exactly a rivalary thats popular enough to go all the way
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#416 | Ultimaphazon | Posted 11/6/2011 1:42:03 AM | message detail | (edited)
So far it seems like having a strong second character (or a good rivalry) will be very important, so Cloud/Seph might actually stand a chance. However, we've also seen Nintendo put up crazy performances, so that's good for Link/Ganondorf.

Honestly, I can see it going either way. I'll give it 50/50 odds, which is better than what I would have said before the contest started, where I considered Link a clear favorite.



EDIT:
^the Final Fantasy series are overrated just as Kingdoms Hearts series but Kingdom Hearts is more popular

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#417 | Molitheus | Posted 11/6/2011 1:46:54 AM | message detail
^ i agree with you on that one and if just so happens that Cloud/Seph go all the way then hats off to them(im only playing as a karma entry) but the one rivalry that i would love to see win is Megaman/Dr. Wily which are underrated and dont get the respect they deserve
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#418 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 11/6/2011 2:01:17 AM | message detail
I hope it's a combination of two strong characters, strong rivalries, and

Who am I kidding. Mario's never winning a contest with Link present.
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#419 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/6/2011 2:21:22 AM | message detail | (edited)

From: Molitheus | #415
Kingdom Hearts is more popular.


Nope.

And picking Sora to beat Cloud is sheer idiocy.
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#420 | __Smurf__ | Posted 11/6/2011 2:53:50 AM | message detail
Yeah expected result. I really don't think a large portion of voters know or care who Ezio is. Not sure why it was made out to be a close encounter by folks here while the idea of conker beating Ike (which was a closer match) was ridiculed.
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#421 | ExThaNemesis | Posted 11/6/2011 3:05:42 AM | message detail
cloud and seph might actually pull this off

This is mean, stop it. =(

Anyway I didn't even think abot this one when making my picks. I'm worried about fox and wolf vs yuna and seymour though, I might bank for that one
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#422 | Pondos | Posted 11/6/2011 3:11:58 AM | message detail
lolwhoops

At least I can still win the battle challenge
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#423 | Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 11/6/2011 3:18:11 AM | message detail
Then people wonder why most want the contests to stop.Because Nintendo dominance is really stupid.I hope it is the last contest.
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#424 | __Smurf__ | Posted 11/6/2011 3:35:30 AM | message detail
I'd imagine the low votals aren't going to help with the more kid/teen friendly options like Ezio/Shepard. You'd think the first people to go in a site decline are the newer, casual audience. We saw something like that in 2004 when Crono inexplicably rose from the previous year despite not having a game in 9 years. At the expense of the flavour of the month Kingdom Hearts / SSBM crowd more than anything else.
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#425 | Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 11/6/2011 3:38:10 AM | message detail
Actually the people that go to a declining site are the old time members,the ones that stick to the past and that is.
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#426 | ffmasterjose | Posted 11/6/2011 3:54:45 AM | message detail
Augh this isn't even close.
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#427 | Neosadus | Posted 11/6/2011 5:16:39 AM | message detail
I just remembered Donkey Kong got a mention in Jennifer Lopez's hit single this year "On the Floor". That must be it!
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#428 | __Smurf__ | Posted 11/6/2011 5:19:22 AM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=943

So bub vs Ezio?
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#429 | Zylo the wolf | Posted 11/6/2011 5:46:49 AM | message detail
__Smurf__ posted...
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=943

So bub vs Ezio?


Kids these days don't understand that Bubble Bobble is the perfect multiplayer game so Ezio would at least double poor Bub. Now add Bob and Rodrigo and the dragons would kill the other two.
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#430 | whatisurnameplz | Posted 11/6/2011 6:30:41 AM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #410
Glad I banked. And yeah, this contest is showing us both characters have to be strong.

Cloud/Seph might actually pull this thing off.


If they do, then the SQUARE ALWAYS WINS factor will give Mario/Bowser the victory in the final. Not only that, but how dare they defeat Link, who had just starred in the best game ever!
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#431 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/6/2011 6:41:42 AM | message detail
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#432 | XIII_rocks | Posted 11/6/2011 6:44:47 AM | message detail
Man Jeremy Irons Factor did nothing for Rodrigo
#433 | charmander6000 | Posted 11/6/2011 6:48:57 AM | message detail
Match VIII: (2) Sub-Zero/Scorpion vs. (7) Leon Kennedy/Ada Wong

Previous Contest

Sub-Zero – 2010
53.86% against Tidus
59.06% against Roxas
32.69% against Samus Aran

Scorpion – 2008
30.11% against Gordon Freeman, Balthier Bunansa and Big Daddy
18.94% against Vincent Valentine, Gordon Freeman and Falco Lombardi

Leon Kennedy – 2010
60.81% against Vault Boy
64.81% against Sackboy
43.12% against Ryu

Ada Wong – 2007
38.42% against Balthier Bunansa, Frank West and Jade Curtiss
19.41% against Dante, Amaterasu and Balthier Bunansa

Analysis

This match showcases some of the dilemmas bracket makers had when adjusting their predictions to suit the contest type. In a one on one match Leon would have no problem defeating both Sub-Zero and Scorpion, though it is unlikely that he would be able to do so against them at the same time. Also Ada Wong doesn’t exactly add much to the table considering her strength.

We saw Leon and Ada compete in the vote-ins where they performed about expected considering the competition; however their competition was either two weak characters or one strong, one weak character, not two decent characters that we see here. As clear as 12-ways are it did suggest that Ada will help about as much relatively to what Lavos did to Crono.

For not having an elite character in the pair I do feel that Sub-Zero and Scorpion will be among the strongest pairs once everything is over. Not only does the pair have two characters with decent strength, but the overlap in my opinion may be lower compare to other pairs. Mortal Kombat fans seem to be fairly split between whether they are a fan of Sub-Zero or Scorpion. Sub-Zero and Scorpion also have a well-known rivalry and while Leon and Ada aren’t a terrible rivalry they have almost nothing compared with Sub-Zero and Scorpion.

We saw how well Mega Man X and Zero did earlier this contest; of course just because one pair of rivals did a lot better doesn’t mean it’ll happen. Still even without a rivalry factor I would take Sub-Zero and Scorpion over Leon and Ada because Ada doesn’t bring much to the table while Leon wouldn’t be able to win this match by himself.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Sub-Zero/Scorpion > Leon Kennedy/Ada Wong

charmander6000’s Prediction: Sub-Zero/Scorpion wins, 57.41% - 42.59%
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#434 | __Smurf__ | Posted 11/6/2011 7:01:49 AM | message detail
Too much assumption of rivalry playing an influencing role. This is two Mortal Kombat characters with virtually no overlap against a popular Resident Evil duo. Ada has been nominated into these things in her own right, and is widely seen as a fan favourite. I don't think she's going to be quite the liability some people think she'll be.

I'm expecting a narrow Leon win with some heavy backlashes of "everyone votes on the first name" hyperbole on board 8.
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#435 | abdou | Posted 11/6/2011 7:07:10 AM | message detail
Mortal Kombat team will win this
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#436 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/6/2011 7:15:24 AM | message detail

From: __Smurf__ | #434
I'm expecting a narrow Leon win with some heavy backlashes of "everyone votes on the first name" hyperbole on board 8.


Seriously, after what happened to the first Resident Evil team? Granted, Leon's team will be stronger, but I'm expecting the ninjas to be a clear step above Kirby/Meta Knight, and unlike the Smash duo, they won't need to put up with a time disadvantage. Kirby/Jill would have been 60/40 or worse during the day.
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#437 | FateStayAlbion | Posted 11/6/2011 7:20:28 AM | message detail
Are we even confident that Leon vs Sub-Zero is a lock 1v1? And Scorpion thrashes Ada.
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#438 | Ultimaphazon | Posted 11/6/2011 7:23:01 AM | message detail
... Leon and Ada aren’t a terrible rivalry ...

I'm sorry, but this is wrong. Leon/Ada is not a rivalry by any definition of the word. I still don't get how Bacon paired those two up together. It should have been Leon/Krauser instead. It's less of a rivalry then the super-boring Hero/Final Boss rivalries, and most of these are terrible to begin with.
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#439 | Ultimaphazon | Posted 11/6/2011 7:26:43 AM | message detail
And after the huge (?) success that was MK9, the first well received game for the Ninjas in over 15 years, I think they should have boosted quite a bit, and I would have taken Subby > Leon in a 1-on-1 this year.
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#440 | __Smurf__ | Posted 11/6/2011 7:35:30 AM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #436
Seriously, after what happened to the first Resident Evil team? Granted, Leon's team will be stronger, but I'm expecting the ninjas to be a clear step above Kirby/Meta Knight, and unlike the Smash duo, they won't need to put up with a time disadvantage. Kirby/Jill would have been 60/40 or worse during the day.


58-42 between Kirby/Jill was exactly as expected, you make it sound like some sort of horror show capitulation. What exactly did you expect from a rivalry that existed solely in RE3? This is very much a different proposition today all in the games it represents, the strength of both characters and the weaker opposition. Again I think you're getting too hung up on two Mortal Kombat characters and a meaningful rivalry in the series and confusing it with it resulting in it somehow fabricating extra voters that the individuals wouldn't normally get. They may very well edge it but saying that they'll put out a performance to indicate they'd beat Kirby is a ridiculous assertion.
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#441 | __Smurf__ | Posted 11/6/2011 7:38:57 AM | message detail

From: FateStayAlbion | #437
Are we even confident that Leon vs Sub-Zero is a lock 1v1? And Scorpion thrashes Ada.


Is there any indication whatsoever that theres a sizable portion of people who'd vote for Scorpion who would otherwise anti-vote Sub-Zero? This is essentially what you're believing if you think this match is a certainty when you'd otherwise question the victor of Leon vs Sub-Zero.

Like with most niche fanbases there's an alpha-character and every other character in the series is a subset of that characters fanbase.
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#442 | charmander6000 | Posted 11/6/2011 7:46:40 AM | message detail
Leon would defeat Sub-Zero, but I doubt Leon would break 55%.

Also like I said in the Mortal Kombat fanbase there are people that love Sub-Zero and there are ones that love Scorpion. While they wouldn't anti-vote the other one in large numbers they do have one in a higher ranking of their favourite characters list.
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#443 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/6/2011 8:10:03 AM | message detail

From: __Smurf__ | #440
58-42 between Kirby/Jill was exactly as expected, you make it sound like some sort of horror show capitulation. What exactly did you expect from a rivalry that existed solely in RE3?


Something closer. I had it in my bracket as an upset and thought they'd at least break 45. And yeah, I do think Leon's team is stronger anyway and I still think the ninjas will more or less rip him to shreds. The Sub-Zero/Scorpion rivalry is iconic. Leon/Ada is not. It's less meaningful than Jill/Nemesis. I think that after this current match and the one set to start in 50 minutes, it'll be apparent that voters are taking the rivalries into consideration.
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#444 | Lightning Strikes | Posted 11/6/2011 8:30:39 AM | message detail | (edited)
Well

I just checked my bracket, turned out I had Guybrush yesterday

How the hell

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#445 | WalrusJump | Posted 11/6/2011 8:30:39 AM | message detail
Someone give me logic on Phoenix > Gordon. I really don't see that happening.

Gordon has only gotten stronger since '06. Phoenix has gotten weaker. The next year he barely beat Bomberman, of all people.
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#446 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 11/6/2011 8:32:24 AM | message detail
Phoenix has gotten significantly stronger since 2006, plus a night match favors him, PLUS awful votals benefits more obscure/easily rallied characters.

I mean, I have Gordon, but I've lost confidence due to these votals and things from the vote-ins so far all looking pretty bad.
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#447 | th3l3fty | Posted 11/6/2011 8:33:14 AM | message detail
Phoenix also doesn't have a complete anchor with him
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#448 | charmander6000 | Posted 11/6/2011 8:34:57 AM | message detail
Phoenix hasn't gotten any stronger since 2006 and it seemed that based on last contest neither has Freeman, but rivalry factor should help him out.
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#449 | junk_funk | Posted 11/6/2011 8:36:15 AM | message detail
th3l3fty posted...
Phoenix also doesn't have a complete anchor with him

I'm worried about this. I think the anchor makes or breaks you. Thinking Phoenix might have this but I've got Gordon.
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#450 | Lopen | Posted 11/6/2011 8:38:34 AM | message detail | (edited)

From: Ultimaphazon | #438
... Leon and Ada aren’t a terrible rivalry ...

I'm sorry, but this is wrong. Leon/Ada is not a rivalry by any definition of the word. I still don't get how Bacon paired those two up together. It should have been Leon/Krauser instead. It's less of a rivalry then the super-boring Hero/Final Boss rivalries, and most of these are terrible to begin with.


Looks like someone is using the Bacon handbook on "rivalries"

You don't have to be enemies to be rivals. There's definitely a sense of trying to outdo one another between Leon and Ada (their first encounter in RE4 has them getting in a tussle IIRC). They're a better rivalry than most in the bracket. (And Leon/Krauser for that matter)
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