GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1011
From: Greyfeld | #049 As many as Altair, yessir. --- http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7760/222bj.jpg |
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LeonhartFour posted... From: Greyfeld | #049 This is if we assume Altair = Ezio, which is kinda silly when you take into consideration how many games Ezio's been in. As many as Altair, yessir. Was he the MC in the handheld game? I haven't played it, so I don't know anything about it. I just know Ezio's had more console titles. --- PSN - Aevio BlackMageJawa - "I'm on a Goomba." |
Yeah I'm banking tonight. We're being fed 13 straight easy match after that until Phoenix, might as well. Kinda tempted to go with DK, but nah. --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´ http://i859.photobucket.com/albums/ab159/wimbles/1233028225176.gif |
This is if we assume Altair = Ezio, which is kinda silly when you take into consideration how many games Ezio's been in. I'm not assuming if they are equal, I'm assuming that Zelda is still a tier higher than Vivi. Of course 2010 was before Brotherhood and DKCR and Revelations is coming out in over a week. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Rival Rumble: 4/4 Today: MMX/Zero & Bartz/Gilgamesh |
****
it, just took Ezio in the Battle Challenge. If he's good enough for my
bracket he's more than fine for my Battle bracket. GO BIG OR GO HOME --- 5/5 pts - GameFAQs' Rivalry Rumble NP: Mega Man X/Zero > Captain Falcon/Shadow | Bartz/Gilgamesh > Guybrush/LeChuck |
I
think DKCR will have done as much for DK as ACB and ACR have for Ezio.
It sold extremely well and is the first relevant game DK's had in a very
long time. It held up fairly well against SMG2 in the Wii GOTY poll too
- doubled, but not by too much. I know he had a disaster in the 4-ways
against Tidus/Tails/Cube, but I think 1v1s benefit his Nintendo/icon
status more - see him doing exactly the same against Vivi in 2010 as in
2004. His rivalry is also more of an advantage than Ezio's, and
Nintendo's looked good so far. I'm feeling reasonably good about DK's
chances (uh oh). --- Praise the Black Turtle, Game of the Decade Guru Champ. (Well, I never promised creativity, did I?!) |
From: UltimaterializerX | #050 Eh, I remembered it was an ancient story, and one of the first examples of literature, but I didn't remember anything else. Pardon my ignorance. --- http://i49.tinypic.com/2ry672r.jpg |
I'm
pretty confident DK's going to end up winning this because DK and Ezio
aren't very far apart, and Rodrigo is a terrible anchor. K. Rool's not
great, obviously, but he'll do better than Rodrigo. --- "I can set you free, mate." "My freedom was forfeit long ago!" |
charmander6000 posted... This is if we assume Altair = Ezio, which is kinda silly when you take into consideration how many games Ezio's been in. I'm not assuming if they are equal, I'm assuming that Zelda is still a tier higher than Vivi. Of course 2010 was before Brotherhood and DKCR and Revelations is coming out in over a week. What does Zelda being higher tier than Vivi have anything to do with Ezio and Altair? --- PSN - Aevio BlackMageJawa - "I'm on a Goomba." |
You should read it, BT. Amazing stuff. In fact most of the stories Square steals ideas from are good. --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.· You have angered Doom. |
Banking tonight seems silly, it's only 2100 points --- I wish I could wear skirts and dresses :( -GMUN |
From: Greyfeld | #059 Zelda beat Ezio (worse than Jecht, mind you) and Vivi beat Altair last year. Not that hard to figure out! --- http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/8516/whatisdesiresig.gif |
What does Zelda being higher tier than Vivi have anything to do with Ezio and Altair? You quoted my post and all I'm saying is that I'm not assuming that Altair and Ezio are equal it just turns out that they were in 2010. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Rival Rumble: 4/4 Today: MMX/Zero & Bartz/Gilgamesh |
From: LeonhartFour | #058 Except DK's value is accurate and Ezio is stuck behind that fluke Samus > Zelda blowout. --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.· http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/6158/b8meme1.png |
Well if these polls show anything about trends: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3801®ion=NAM http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3744®ion=NAM DK has the day vote and with an extra hour in this match tonight, Ezio will have just that much longer to reign while the Americans are asleep. --- My Japanese alter-ego. Hey all this is Bartz btw. |
From: UltimaterializerX | #064 This really has nothing to do with anything. Just looking at the eye test, they're not that far apart. --- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." |
Plus, DK's value isn't actually "accurate" since it's stuck behind Link/Sonic anyway. --- http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7760/222bj.jpg |
You don't need Samus/Zelda to look at Ezio's value. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Rival Rumble: 4/4 Today: MMX/Zero & Bartz/Gilgamesh |
DK
has the day vote and with an extra hour in this match tonight, Ezio
will have just that much longer to reign while the Americans are asleep. Ezio does better in the day (despite what geolocation says) while DK is more night compare to other Nintendo characters. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Rival Rumble: 4/4 Today: MMX/Zero & Bartz/Gilgamesh |
LeonhartFour posted... From: Greyfeld | #059 What does Zelda being higher tier than Vivi have anything to do with Ezio and Altair? Zelda beat Ezio (worse than Jecht, mind you) and Vivi beat Altair last year. Not that hard to figure out! Why is it that for some reason i don't remember Ezio being in last year's contest? --- PSN - Aevio BlackMageJawa - "I'm on a Goomba." |
Stats
are unreliable at best in this instance,I don't see this being close.
AC is being made out to be a much bigger deal by some folks here than it
actually is, am expecting a comfortable DK victory and I really don't
rate DK very highly at all. --- Smurf, the cream of Sonic fanboyism |
__Smurf__ posted... Stats are unreliable at best in this instance,I don't see this being close. AC is being made out to be a much bigger deal by some folks here than it actually is, am expecting a comfortable DK victory and I really don't rate DK very highly at all. It's more of fear than anything else. DK is a master choke artist, so we're trying to figure out if other intangibles will make up for his tendencies, or if Ezio will take that opportunity and run with it. --- PSN - Aevio BlackMageJawa - "I'm on a Goomba." |
It
wouldn't surprise me if this is the strongest DK we've ever seen. He
got his first real release since the SNES days this year. --- http://i49.tinypic.com/2ry672r.jpg |
I
don't think Brotherhood and Revelations are going to do much for Ezio,
tbh. Anyone that Ezio attracted would've been attracted by hype from
Assassin's Creed II, and I don't feel the other AC games really boosted
that value. It'd be like saying Luigi boosted in strength from Galaxy 2;
I just don't see a fanbase that wouldn't already be voting for Ezio
being attracted to it. DKCR is a totes legit boost since DK has sat on his ass for the past 13 years, though. |
Kamekguy posted... I don't think Brotherhood and Revelations are going to do much for Ezio, tbh. Anyone that Ezio attracted would've been attracted by hype from Assassin's Creed II, and I don't feel the other AC games really boosted that value. It'd be like saying Luigi boosted in strength from Galaxy 2; I just don't see a fanbase that wouldn't already be voting for Ezio being attracted to it. DKCR is a totes legit boost since DK has sat on his ass for the past 13 years, though. I don't know, DK can't even seem to get over his choking tendencies, despite his SSB appearances, so I'm not sure how much DKCR is going to boost him. The Wii isn't exactly popular here. --- PSN - Aevio BlackMageJawa - "I'm on a Goomba." |
Appearing in SSB doesn't have anything to do with this since Melee was released before the first contest. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Rival Rumble: 4/4 Today: MMX/Zero & Bartz/Gilgamesh |
This is the first major game of his own DK has had since these contests started, and it sold very well. Hard to imagine it'll do nothing. --- "The great GF...Bahamut." "...GF? I...? Using my powers...It is you humans...I fear..." |
Banking tonight seems silly, it's only 2100 points This. Also consider, there will be many people who don't bank and choose either Ezio or DK. The ones that choose correctly and hold out until Phoenix v. Gordon end up with 21,000 whereas the banked guys get 2,100 + 9,200. --- "Getting lucky 100% of the time... it's called PRO SKILL." -BlAcK TuRtLe |
charmander6000 posted... Appearing in SSB doesn't have anything to do with this since Melee was released before the first contest. Everybody seems to attritbute Kirby's strength to SSB, despite having regular releases. You can't say that releases for one character counts, while releases for another doesn't, all things equal. --- PSN - Aevio BlackMageJawa - "I'm on a Goomba." |
LeonhartFour posted... This is the first major game of his own DK has had since these contests started, and it sold very well. Hard to imagine it'll do nothing. Well yeah, I'm sure it'll do something, I just don't see it being a match-swinger. --- PSN - Aevio BlackMageJawa - "I'm on a Goomba." |
From: Greyfeld | #080 He doesn't need much for it to swing the match in his favor, honestly. --- http://i.minus.com/iH9vIGOBoyTQ2.gif |
From: Greyfeld | #079 But nobody says that Kirby got stronger because of Brawl. His strength was predetermined before these contests ever began because he was in Smash Bros. Brawl didn't really help him get any better. --- http://www.gifsoup.com/view/593815/frasier-and-niles-dance-o.gif |
LeonhartFour posted... From: Greyfeld | #080 Well yeah, I'm sure it'll do something, I just don't see it being a match-swinger. He doesn't need much for it to swing the match in his favor, honestly. That depends entirely on how much weight K. Rool puts behind him. If the rivalries matter as much as we've been led to believe in the last couple days, DK could end up with a solid 55/45 before even taking DKCR into account. --- PSN - Aevio BlackMageJawa - "I'm on a Goomba." |
LeonhartFour posted... But nobody says that Kirby got stronger because of Brawl. His strength was predetermined before these contests ever began because he was in Smash Bros. Brawl didn't really help him get any better. And DK, being in the exact same position, seems to somehow choke every single contest. My point was that DKCR isn't going to heavily influence DK's strength in this contest, if being part of the original SSB lineup couldn't already make him worth a damn. --- PSN - Aevio BlackMageJawa - "I'm on a Goomba." |
Not everyone in Smash Bros. is created equally. This is pretty self-evident. It's also pretty silly to say that a brand spankin' new well selling game for DK won't help him because he's in Smash and it doesn't make him that strong. --- http://i.imgur.com/CbfFb.jpg |
Donkey
Kong has consistently been horrible in Smash though so it makes sense
that he'd not get as much of a boost from the games as Kirby. --- You feel better but not much. |
Yesterday's results: Time | X/Zero | CapBlack | Votes 0:05 | 78.38% | 21.62% | 717 1:00 | 80.89% | 19.11% | 5107 2:00 | 81.99% | 18.01% | 3387 3:00 | 82.53% | 17.47% | 2461 4:00 | 84.16% | 15.84% | 1831 5:00 | 80.03% | 19.97% | 1532 6:00 | 79.96% | 20.04% | 1377 7:00 | 78.97% | 21.03% | 1422 8:00 | 77.58% | 22.42% | 1570 9:00 | 77.25% | 22.75% | 1934 10:00 | 79.30% | 20.70% | 2382 11:00 | 79.25% | 20.75% | 2684 12:00 | 80.68% | 19.32% | 2599 X/Zero ride high for the first half of the match. Falcon manages to avoid the quadrupling for most of the second half. --- http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab48/Leonhart4/Squall.jpg |
LeonhartFour posted... Not everyone in Smash Bros. is created equally. This is pretty self-evident. It's also pretty silly to say that a brand spankin' new well selling game for DK won't help him because he's in Smash and it doesn't make him that strong. I didn't say it won't help him, I'm saying it won't help him much. We're talking about a Wii title on a website where the Wii is the red-headed stepchild of gaming. Sure, there'll be a number of kids introduced to DK as a series instead of as a SSB character after 10+ years, but I just don't see more than a handful of those kids coming onto GameFAQs to vote for DK over the badass assassin. Just as not all SSB characters are equal, neither are all new releases equal. There are just some series where new titles aren't going to do a whole lot for their characters, strength-wise. And I feel like DKC is one of those series. --- PSN - Aevio BlackMageJawa - "I'm on a Goomba." |
I am reasonably sure that proportionally, each game Ezio has boosts him more than DKCR boosted DK. --- ~Acting on Impulse~ Black Turtle still didn't MAJORA'S MASK |
I
think people generally attribute too much of Kirby's strength to SSB.
Kirby's Dream Land alone sold millions of copies and Nintendo has
cranked out a pretty large number of Kirby games over the years. None of
them really have the acclaim of the big Mario/Zelda/Metroid games or
even Star Fox 64 and aside from Dream Land 1 they're not top sellers,
but Kirby seldom actually has a bad game and the quantity can add up
over time, especially when it's over multiple generations. Just ask
Megaman. --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] |
In
a match where history suggests both are equal and hovering around the
low mid carder range, I believe I'm gonna go with the pop culture icon.
Hope Ezio doesn't pull a Vercetti on me. --- Pobody's nerfect. |
I'm
sticking with DK tonight for entirely one reason - he's older. I think
what yo said about this-gen characters not having enough time to build
up proper rivalries/memories holds a lot of water. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
And
DK has the better resume. He's about tied Master Chief, and finished
ahead of Tails. Two things I'm not so sure Ezio could do. --- Pobody's nerfect. |
LeonhartFour posted... And I'm saying he doesn't need much help. And I'm agreeing with you. So what are we arguing about? --- PSN - Aevio BlackMageJawa - "I'm on a Goomba." |
Ezio would definitely beat Tails. Let's not get carried away here! --- "So cold. I am always by your side." "There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!" |
I
would take Ezio>DK without any real hesitation. There's not a reason
for DK to win that. I'm banking on rivalry factor, here. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
Let's
hope! The only truly new teams we've seen are Ike's and Katherine's,
and both actually did pretty well. Granted, there was a massive
picture/appeal contrast for the latter, and Sonic seems incapable of
blowing anything out. --- Yoblazer: http://i32.tinypic.com/zlf1w7.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
Master Chief and DK were having a choke-off, that match was never going to produce reliable results. --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? [HERO'S PLUNGE] http://img.imgcake.com/finegifdy.gif |
LeonhartFour posted... Ezio would definitely beat Tails. Let's not get carried away here! Whoa, I've never looked at Tails history before. It's awful. You're right. --- Pobody's nerfect. |
