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#1 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/5/2011 6:56:20 AM | message detail
Our first good match this contest is seriously going to involve Donkey Kong, of all people.



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#2 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 11/5/2011 8:14:31 AM | message detail
How do you not consider Guybrush vs Bartz to be a good match?

This is the match people have been waiting all month to see!
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#3 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 11/5/2011 8:18:36 AM | message detail
#4 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 11/5/2011 8:19:37 AM | message detail

From: WarThaNemesis2 | #003
I will never get over how pathetic Guybrush is.


How is he pathetic? He was only tripled by Vincent last time!
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#5 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 11/5/2011 8:20:23 AM | message detail
True. Obviously this is a Final Fantasy boost.

Cecil > Luigi WITHOUT RIVALRY FACTOR confirmed.
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#6 | FateStayAlbion | Posted 11/5/2011 8:20:41 AM | message detail
#7 | ffmasterjose | Posted 11/5/2011 8:20:51 AM | message detail
Here's hoping Donkey Kong chokes like he always does.
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#8 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 11/5/2011 8:22:33 AM | message detail
How bad of a board vote do you have if you get back 5% in 2 updates from a FF dude

Older Square typically has a good board vote, doesn't it?
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#9 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/5/2011 8:22:37 AM | message detail

From: FateStayAlbion | #006
I think I buy this "people randomly picking a character" theory


Certainly. Only the board really knew who they were voting for because of brackets. I can easily buy lots of normal voters mentally flipping a coin or voting based on the picture.
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#10 | pjbasis | Posted 11/5/2011 8:24:02 AM | message detail
X/Zero cruising to an 80 percent victory is a good match.
#11 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/5/2011 8:24:56 AM | message detail
Who plans to bank tonight?
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#12 | Hide_The_Butter | Posted 11/5/2011 8:25:20 AM | message detail
Post.
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#13 | Kamekguy | Posted 11/5/2011 8:26:12 AM | message detail
Any match where I can say "I voted for a piece of crap over you" is a good match.
#14 | charmander6000 | Posted 11/5/2011 8:29:02 AM | message detail
Who plans to bank tonight?

I've been debating it, the reason I made the leaderboard last contest was from playing conservatively.
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#15 | BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/5/2011 8:31:57 AM | message detail
Confirm/Deny

X/Zero lead Mario/Bowser at 10 minutes
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#16 | charmander6000 | Posted 11/5/2011 8:33:45 AM | message detail
easy deny
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#17 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 11/5/2011 8:35:41 AM | message detail
I'm probably going to hold out on banking until at least Fox vs Yuna.
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#18 | pjbasis | Posted 11/5/2011 8:37:40 AM | message detail
Good chance of leading if they really look like they can win.
#19 | TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 11/5/2011 8:38:47 AM | message detail
#20 | Greyfeld | Posted 11/5/2011 8:38:49 AM | message detail
I won't be banking for quite a while.

What I'm sad about is that there's only 62 people left in the top slot, and I'm still not on the leaderboard x.x
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#21 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/5/2011 8:39:03 AM | message detail
Phoenix/Gordon is a good place to bank, especially since, despite my confidence in the vampires, Alucard > Shepard is not guaranteed.
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#22 | pjbasis | Posted 11/5/2011 8:39:40 AM | message detail
I decided to go with conker in my battle for some reason is the only reason I'm not perfect.
#23 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/5/2011 8:39:54 AM | message detail

From: Greyfeld | #020
What I'm sad about is that there's only 62 people left in the top slot, and I'm still not on the leaderboard x.x


There's a glitch; it's impossible that only 62 people have perfect scores. There are more people on the board with perfect scores than that.
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#24 | Colegreen_c12 | Posted 11/5/2011 8:40:03 AM | message detail

From: Greyfeld | #020
I won't be banking for quite a while.

What I'm sad about is that there's only 62 people left in the top slot, and I'm still not on the leaderboard x.x


Same.

Are we sure its not some glitch?
#25 | pjbasis | Posted 11/5/2011 8:41:19 AM | message detail
Oh hey, this is the first time we got a non-VG originated character in a match, huh?
#26 | KingButz | Posted 11/5/2011 8:43:00 AM | message detail
It has to be a glitch. I have more alt brackets with perfect scores than could even be missing off the list if there were only 62.
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#27 | KingButz | Posted 11/5/2011 8:43:15 AM | message detail

From: pjbasis | #025
Oh hey, this is the first time we got a non-VG originated character in a match, huh?


uh. who?
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#28 | charmander6000 | Posted 11/5/2011 8:43:31 AM | message detail
Good chance of leading if they really look like they can win.

Leading only matters at the end, anyone on the leaderboard may still be up there if they bank if the glitch is not fixed.
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#29 | KingButz | Posted 11/5/2011 8:44:23 AM | message detail
oh and

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4515&region=USXWY

WYOMING'D
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#30 | BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/5/2011 8:48:33 AM | message detail

From: KingButz | #027
uh. who?


Gilgamesh technically. He originated in some ancient story.
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#31 | BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/5/2011 8:49:30 AM | message detail
Although wasn't Strider technically the first non-VG character back in 2002 or 2003?
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#32 | charmander6000 | Posted 11/5/2011 8:51:12 AM | message detail
I haven't read the epic, so is Gilgamesh based on the epic?
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#33 | FateStayAlbion | Posted 11/5/2011 8:51:36 AM | message detail
#34 | Greyfeld | Posted 11/5/2011 8:51:52 AM | message detail
Colegreen_c12 posted...
From: Greyfeld | #020
I won't be banking for quite a while.

What I'm sad about is that there's only 62 people left in the top slot, and I'm still not on the leaderboard x.x
Same.

Are we sure its not some glitch?


I dunno, why would it be? There are 50 top slots, and 62 top ranked people. Seems to me it would make sense for 12 of those people not to be on the board.
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#35 | BK_Sheikah00 | Posted 11/5/2011 8:54:33 AM | message detail
I'm not banking until Phoenix/Gordon. I'm worried about tonight's match and Fox/Yuna, but it will be hard to build a streak once southwest division hits, so you have to make the most out of the early matches. Gotta take the risk.
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#36 | Zylo the wolf | Posted 11/5/2011 8:54:43 AM | message detail
Yup. But I'm not sure if the guy in FFV is based on the Gilgamesh or if Squaresoft just thought the name was cool.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilgamesh_in_popular_culture
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#37 | pjbasis | Posted 11/5/2011 8:55:22 AM | message detail
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epic_of_Gilgamesh

From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #031
Although wasn't Strider technically the first non-VG character back in 2002 or 2003?


Oh boy you know your history.
Just looked it up, and I'm not sure it counts as the wiki page shows that he was conceived to be a video game and manga character from the beginning. The manga just got released first.
#38 | KingButz | Posted 11/5/2011 8:55:29 AM | message detail

From: FateStayAlbion | #033
I don't think its supposed to be the same Gilgamesh, is it?


It's a character that shares the name of a fictional character. We could say the same of Blinky if we used that reasoning.
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#39 | pjbasis | Posted 11/5/2011 8:58:02 AM | message detail | (edited)

From: FateStayAlbion | #033
I don't think its supposed to be the same Gilgamesh, is it?


It's not necessarily the same guy but it's certainly based on him, especially with his references to Enkidu, another character from the Epic.
#40 | BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/5/2011 8:58:36 AM | message detail

From: KingButz | #038
It's a character that shares the name of a fictional character. We could say the same of Blinky if we used that reasoning.


Except in FF12 he has a dog called Enikdu which is another character in the Epic of Gilgamesh
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#41 | charmander6000 | Posted 11/5/2011 9:00:13 AM | message detail
Strider was suppose to have both released at the same time, but the manga got released first.
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#42 | pjbasis | Posted 11/5/2011 9:00:35 AM | message detail
Tag-team duo right here.
#43 | KingButz | Posted 11/5/2011 9:02:13 AM | message detail
That is true, but Enkidu is not a dog in the epic. I would say that the names was inspired by the epic but not necessarily based on the epic.
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#44 | junk_funk | Posted 11/5/2011 9:02:15 AM | message detail
2010: Vivi's stats
Chaos Round 1 --- Defeated (10) Donkey Kong, 30113 [56.29%] - 23379 [43.71%]
Chaos Round 2 --- Defeated (2) Altair, 41571 [55.79%] - 32944 [44.21%]

From the looks of it, DK was just a little weaker than Altair. However, it's Ezio, not Altair. But is Ezio stronger than Altair now? I still won't believe it until I see it.

- A new AC is coming out. Gives Ezio more strength.
- I got to assume King K Rool is more popular than Pope. DK has the stronger team and some nostalgia going for him. But he's always had good name recognition and poor votals.
- DK lost to Vercetti. That was a long time ago though.

Bottom line - I have no clue.
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#45 | charmander6000 | Posted 11/5/2011 9:06:03 AM | message detail
Based on Zelda and Vivi DK and Ezio seem to be roughly equal. Of course a lot has happened since early 2010.
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#46 | pjbasis | Posted 11/5/2011 9:06:48 AM | message detail

From: KingButz | #043
That is true, but Enkidu is not a dog in the epic. I would say that the names was inspired by the epic but not necessarily based on the epic.


The MESOPOTAMIAN VOTERS don't care!
#47 | Ultimaphazon | Posted 11/5/2011 9:07:20 AM | message detail
Square have always based the names of some of their characters on ancient lore.
Just look at the names of some of summons: Shiva, Ifrit, Bahamut, Leviathan, Hades, etc.
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#48 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/5/2011 9:09:59 AM | message detail
You know, I just realized that DK/Ezio is going to be 13 hours long.

It would add a new page to DK's epic lore if he was leading at the end of 12 hours but lost the match.

Still think DK's gonna win though.
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#49 | Greyfeld | Posted 11/5/2011 9:13:33 AM | message detail | (edited)
charmander6000 posted...
Based on Zelda and Vivi DK and Ezio seem to be roughly equal. Of course a lot has happened since early 2010.

This is if we assume Altair = Ezio, which is kinda silly when you take into consideration how many games Ezio's been in.

That said, Rodrigo does jack-all for Ezio in this match, while K. Rool at least brings in the nostalgia votes.

Unfortunately, I have no idea who has the better night vote. I can only assume the benefit would go to Ezio if this were a day match, because I'd have more faith in the ASV going to him than to DK (since the kids aren't going to know who the hell K. Rool is).
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#50 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/5/2011 9:13:16 AM | message detail
How dare you only call the Epic of Gilgamesh "some ancient story". The entire epic is brilliant.

Also I seriously don't remember making that Guybrush picture LOL
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