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#401 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/5/2011 12:05:27 AM | message detail
Nah, Sonic/Shadow would've been better than Sonic/Robotnik. No doubt Shadow is stronger than Robotnik.
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#402 | Molitheus | Posted 11/5/2011 12:06:57 AM | message detail
this is my first time enetering one of these contest. so far, so good. any advice?
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#403 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/5/2011 12:07:46 AM | message detail
Never bet on Resident Evil in the first week.
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#404 | Lopen | Posted 11/5/2011 12:11:22 AM | message detail
Anyway uh just cause I want to get this on paper so I can say "I told you so" when it happens and so NGamer doesn't take all the credit.

The ones that get helped in order of how much they get helped by RIVALRY FACTOR:

1. Ryu vs Ken
2. Sub-Zero vs Scorpion
3. Dante vs Vergil
4. Sol vs Ky (expect double power, so 8% on the x-stats instead of 4%)
5. X vs Zero
6. Red vs Blue
7. Mario vs Bowser
8. Frog vs Magus
9. Alucard vs Dracula
*drop*
10. Squall vs Seifer
11. Raynor vs Kerrigan
12. Dan vs Sagat
13. Cloud vs Sephiroth
14. Lloyd vs Kratos
15. Sora vs Riku
16. Fox vs Wolf
17. Cecil vs Golbez
18. Tidus vs Jecht
19. Kirby vs Meta-Knight
20. Laharl vs Mid-Boss
21. Leon vs Ada Wong
22. Big Boss vs The Boss

The ones that get hurt:

1. Samus vs Ridley
2. Crono vs Lavos
3. Luigi vs Waluigi
4. Link vs Ganondorf
5. Sonic vs Robotnik (cause Knuckles exists)
6. Mega Man vs Wily (cause Protoman exists)
7. Ness vs Giygas
8. Terra vs Kefka
9. Raiden vs Vamp

The rest get no effect or I'm not familiar enough.
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#405 | pjbasis | Posted 11/5/2011 12:12:09 AM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #403
Never bet on Resident Evil in the first week.


Chris and Wesker won't let you down!

Hell they might even get to Round 3!
#406 | ZFS | Posted 11/5/2011 12:14:09 AM | message detail
Looks right to me. Vamp is an automatic anti-vote where I'm sitting.
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#407 | Molitheus | Posted 11/5/2011 12:16:26 AM | message detail
if Chris and Wesker go up against Tidus Jecht in Round 2, i dont think they will stand a chance. i also picked Bartz and Gigamesh. i dont know how that ones gonna turn out
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#408 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/5/2011 12:17:37 AM | message detail
I think most people around here expected the actual rivalries to have some kind of effect. It's one of the reasons Cloud/Seph have more support against Link than anyone usually does, and why the Pokemon Trainers have the edge against Luigi.

Also, Dante/Vergil as #3 is admitted fanboyism, right? Nothing wrong that fanboyism, but you can't honestly believe that. The DMC games are weak and Vergil has always been in that foddery range.
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#409 | Lopen | Posted 11/5/2011 12:19:03 AM | message detail
Yeah Raiden vs Vamp might be higher on overall damage because of how much Vamp drags him down as far as the character sucking. Same with Luigi vs Waluigi. Mostly I'm just going with reactions like "that's not a rivalry" or "that's not the best rivalry" or "who cares about that rivalry" or "I LOVE LINK WHO'S GANONDORF"
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#410 | ZFS | Posted 11/5/2011 12:19:49 AM | message detail | (edited)
pjbasis posted...
Hell they might even get to Round 3!

there is a boss in the way. could beat both on his own tbqh
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#411 | Lopen | Posted 11/5/2011 12:21:38 AM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #408
Also, Dante/Vergil as #3 is admitted fanboyism, right? Nothing wrong that fanboyism, but you can't honestly believe that. The DMC games are weak and Vergil has always been in that foddery range.


I think the whole is a lot more than the sum of the parts there. Any fan of DMC3 loves that rivalry.

The one thing that might hold it back is people who haven't played DMC3 that vote Dante regularly but I imagine that percentage isn't very high.

I have them taking their division for a reason...!
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#412 | Lopen | Posted 11/5/2011 12:22:48 AM | message detail
Also Vergil isn't terrible fodder. I think as far as hero/villain strength relations go he beats most of them that aren't Sephiroth or Bowser.
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#413 | ZFS | Posted 11/5/2011 12:23:33 AM | message detail
Yeah, Dante/Vergil is a top tier rivalry. The only thing holding them back is that it's only prevalent in DMC3, but if you've played that game before, there's no way you don't vote for them against Kingdom Hearts kids. I still think KH wins out, but yeah.
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#414 | cbaron0 | Posted 11/5/2011 12:23:39 AM | message detail
Lopen posted...
Anyway uh just cause I want to get this on paper so I can say "I told you so" when it happens and so NGamer doesn't take all the credit.

The ones that get helped in order of how much they get helped by RIVALRY FACTOR:

1. Ryu vs Ken
2. Sub-Zero vs Scorpion
3. Dante vs Vergil
4. Sol vs Ky (expect double power, so 8% on the x-stats instead of 4%)
5. X vs Zero
6. Red vs Blue
7. Mario vs Bowser
8. Frog vs Magus
9. Alucard vs Dracula
*drop*
10. Squall vs Seifer
11. Raynor vs Kerrigan
12. Dan vs Sagat
13. Cloud vs Sephiroth
14. Lloyd vs Kratos
15. Sora vs Riku
16. Fox vs Wolf
17. Cecil vs Golbez
18. Tidus vs Jecht
19. Kirby vs Meta-Knight
20. Laharl vs Mid-Boss
21. Leon vs Ada Wong
22. Big Boss vs The Boss

The ones that get hurt:

1. Samus vs Ridley
2. Crono vs Lavos
3. Luigi vs Waluigi
4. Link vs Ganondorf
5. Sonic vs Robotnik (cause Knuckles exists)
6. Mega Man vs Wily (cause Protoman exists)
7. Ness vs Giygas
8. Terra vs Kefka
9. Raiden vs Vamp

The rest get no effect or I'm not familiar enough.


Wait, so how does Mario benefit from Bowser and Link gets hurt from Ganondorf again?
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#415 | Lopen | Posted 11/5/2011 12:24:36 AM | message detail
Mario vs Bowser is a 70-30 match
Link vs Ganondorf is a 88-12 match

That's how
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#416 | Lopen | Posted 11/5/2011 12:29:29 AM | message detail
I mean, it's not all how well the two do against each other, cause otherwise X vs Zero stomps this, but to me that kinda says pretty loudly that LoZ fans don't really give a damn about the "rivalry" (it's not, really, but Link doesn't have a great rival either) with Ganondorf.
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#417 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/5/2011 12:30:50 AM | message detail
#418 | pjbasis | Posted 11/5/2011 12:34:13 AM | message detail | (edited)
So when are these guys supposed to fall?
#419 | Lopen | Posted 11/5/2011 12:34:16 AM | message detail
I was expecting them to start dropping like half an hour ago.

Who knows. If they don't start dropping soon probably not till morning.
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#420 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/5/2011 12:34:29 AM | message detail
Considering they're still at 70% in Europe...

Probably in the next couple hours.
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#421 | pjbasis | Posted 11/5/2011 12:41:59 AM | message detail
If Ryu/Ken get their bro-fist pic, maybe we'll see similar numbers.
#422 | Lopen | Posted 11/5/2011 12:48:56 AM | message detail
Ryu vs Ken will get 80%

Believe

Also uh funny thing I'm going to be #1 on the Oracle after this match barring any last minute changes from any of the 11 guys above me that haven't been updated yet (yes, I was bored). This is truly the end of days, I believe.
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#423 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/5/2011 12:50:30 AM | message detail
That's the power of teamwork
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#424 | Lopen | Posted 11/5/2011 12:50:55 AM | message detail
... er, I guess some guys below me might have better predictions.

Dammit, I don't wanna look at those. We'll just assume no one with sense had X vs Zero above 75%
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#425 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/5/2011 12:52:32 AM | message detail | (edited)
Almost at 82% now. Gotta wonder how much they'll actually fall at this point.
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#426 | pjbasis | Posted 11/5/2011 12:52:59 AM | message detail
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Match #5 - Mega Man X vs. Zero - 76.23%
#427 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/5/2011 12:53:48 AM | message detail

From: pjbasis | #426
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Match #5 - Mega Man X vs. Zero - 76.23%


From: Lopen | #424
We'll just assume no one with sense


oops looks like you don't qualify too bad
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#428 | negi_magician | Posted 11/5/2011 12:54:47 AM | message detail
I still can't figure out who to bet on for the next contest (Guybrush vs. Bartz).

I've never heard of the game Guybrush is from, but since it's the 4-seed and Bartz is a 5-seed...

Same thing with Terra vs. Vyse, since FF is popular but there's a lot of nostalgia for Skies of Arcadia.

Any clues/ past contest insight?
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#429 | Lopen | Posted 11/5/2011 12:56:38 AM | message detail
Well for the record I was at 77.77% so they actually need to go higher than that. So even if you got sense you got nothin, son!

But yeah not gonna check like 20 more I'll just cross my fingers and hope I wake up to a good hearty laugh.
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#430 | pjbasis | Posted 11/5/2011 12:57:14 AM | message detail
Oh, that's funny.
#431 | ffmasterjose | Posted 11/5/2011 1:02:21 AM | message detail
Seeds really aren't an indication of strength, they just represent how nominated something was. Terra and Kefka are facing some scrubs, they go it. Bartz and Gilgamesh should be handle to handle Guybrush.
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#432 | negi_magician | Posted 11/5/2011 1:05:35 AM | message detail
ffmasterjose posted...
Seeds really aren't an indication of strength, they just represent how nominated something was. Terra and Kefka are facing some scrubs, they go it. Bartz and Gilgamesh should be handle to handle Guybrush.

Good point with Terra and Kefka.

And Monkey Island's a niche title, no?

I'll bank next round, then. Gotta at least beat SBallen.
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#433 | creativename | Posted 11/5/2011 2:00:48 AM | message detail

From: Molitheus | #402
this is my first time enetering one of these contest. so far, so good. any advice?


Enter the Oracle challenge if you haven't yet :) It's the most fun part of these contests. You can enter anytime. You'll be behind on total points but you can grade yourself based on average score instead.

From: Lopen | #404The ones that get hurt:
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8. Terra vs Kefka


Why does Terra vs. Kefka get hurt? Seems like a perfectly decent rivalry to me.
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#434 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/5/2011 2:22:40 AM | message detail

From: ZenOfThunder | #217
So Ulti, are you gonna continue doing match pics? If not then I gotta pick up the slack I guess


I have everything done for round 1.
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#435 | Lightning Strikes | Posted 11/5/2011 2:44:42 AM | message detail
*Sees poll results*

...Oh my god.

This match. It is AMAZING.
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#436 | Lopen | Posted 11/5/2011 2:46:06 AM | message detail
Terra vs Kefka get hurt because there's so much squabbling about who the main character is in FF6 and the ensemble cast thing.

I actually think Terra fits better than most of the cast but yeah I don't really think it gets much support. It's more "the party vs Kefka" than Terra and if you're gonna make specific character arguments you could claim Celes or Cyan or Edgar are a better fit.

It's not a bad rivalry (well, as good as it can be having Terra in it)... I just think if it's debatable that that's the best rivalry for them they're going to get hurt.
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#437 | janembaman | Posted 11/5/2011 3:06:06 AM | message detail
I have a hobby
Every time Megaman is on the pool I check the votes from UK
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4514&region=GB

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Why do you hate Megaman so
#438 | janembaman | Posted 11/5/2011 3:29:49 AM | message detail
Oh and I remember last contest there was a site that listed all the updates with graphs etc
It was on the first post of every "contest stats and discussion" topic
What happened to it?
#439 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/5/2011 3:33:00 AM | message detail
This is what you are looking for:

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/node/63
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#440 | red sox 777 | Posted 11/5/2011 3:35:27 AM | message detail
gamefaqscontests.com

About the match: I was surprised by how low most people were going on this one. Captain Falcon's partner contributes NOTHING, and Falcon himself is a character who only got 25% on Crono back in 2006. And one rivalry here is far superior as a rivalry to the other.
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#441 | janembaman | Posted 11/5/2011 3:40:46 AM | message detail
Oh thanks~
#442 | XIII_rocks | Posted 11/5/2011 5:08:30 AM | message detail
janembaman posted...
I have a hobby
Every time Megaman is on the pool I check the votes from UK
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4514&region=GB

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Why do you hate Megaman so


Lack of exposure

Irl I've heard mm mentioned like twice. Ever.
#443 | SuorGenoveffa | Posted 11/5/2011 5:12:30 AM | message detail
I can't believe that I went to sleep hoping to find X/Zero at no more than 77%, and I find them with +1%. Welp.
#444 | Ultimaphazon | Posted 11/5/2011 5:12:36 AM | message detail
It's actually surprising how well X still does in Europe (relatively speaking), considering his performance in the UK
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#445 | Mannequin Depressive | Posted 11/5/2011 5:32:17 AM | message detail
who is going to win the next match? it's the first one im iffy about

i have guybrush winning, but idk
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#446 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/5/2011 5:35:15 AM | message detail
I'm probably banking on DK/Ezio. Not feeling as confident in Ezio, for some reason. The match being 13 hours will only help DK build an even bigger lead overnight, too, if the match is close.
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#447 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/5/2011 5:35:34 AM | message detail
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#448 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 11/5/2011 5:48:14 AM | message detail | (edited)

From: UltimaterializerX | #446
I'm probably banking on DK/Ezio. Not feeling as confident in Ezio, for some reason. The match being 13 hours will only help DK build an even bigger lead overnight, too, if the match is close.


Doing the same. With Nintendo performing strongly and AC hype possibly dying down a bit, DK might actually pull off a win. At the same time, it's DK, and I'm sure as hell not putting any faith in f***ing Donkey Kong, especially against an opponent who has good reason to beat him.

Learned my lesson from last contest. Gonna try to do the battle contest more conservatively now.
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#449 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/5/2011 6:21:34 AM | message detail
AC hype hasn't died down at all. Revelations advertisements are absolutely all over the place, and even NBA stars are helping make the commercials. I know that means nothing on GameFAQs (Call of Duty says hi), but still.
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#450 | charmander6000 | Posted 11/5/2011 6:52:59 AM | message detail
Wow MMX/Zero is going to finish above 80%

DK > Ezio felt like the right thing to do. I think Ezio looked slightly better last contest and has had a lot of things since then, but I'm hoping the rivalry factor will can in.
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