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#351 | KingButz | Posted 11/4/2011 9:28:41 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4514&region=EUR

Expect a Mega Man drop overnight.
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#352 | XIII_rocks | Posted 11/4/2011 9:30:15 PM | message detail | (edited)

From: WarThaNemesis2 | #350
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4514&region=USXWY

Wyoming'd


bwahaha I love Wyoming


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#353 | KingButz | Posted 11/4/2011 9:31:49 PM | message detail | (edited)
There's the percentage drop. Goodnight folks.

EDIT: Whoops, read that wrong.
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#354 | pjbasis | Posted 11/4/2011 9:31:01 PM | message detail
This is really stabilizing at 80.

I love this, not just for the contestants, but for the whole contest.
#355 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/4/2011 9:31:43 PM | message detail
Yesterday's chart:

Time | Sonik | Katcat | Votes
0:05 | 73.80% | 26.20% | 500
1:00 | 74.11% | 25.89% | 4781
2:00 | 74.53% | 25.47% | 4040
3:00 | 73.79% | 26.21% | 3930
4:00 | 73.39% | 26.61% | 3984
5:00 | 75.20% | 24.80% | 3706
6:00 | 73.21% | 26.79% | 3557
7:00 | 73.00% | 27.00% | 3252
8:00 | 71.83% | 28.17% | 3000
9:00 | 71.44% | 28.56% | 2668
10:00 | 71.08% | 28.92% | 2403
11:00 | 71.86% | 28.14% | 2335
12:00 | 70.41% | 29.59% | 2031

Gradual decline to each timeframe for Sonic/Robotnik here. Just as a reminder: Robotnik had one of the worst day votes we've ever seen in the Villains Contest.
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#356 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 11/4/2011 9:33:28 PM | message detail
This is Anti-Anti-BlowoutFAQs we're dealing with here.

I like it.
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#357 | ZenOfThunder | Posted 11/4/2011 9:33:29 PM | message detail
so rivalries matter confirmed?

or is this some weird sff thing oooor what

I never know what you guys come up with, there might be a new term like

"RFM: RIVALRIES F***ING MATTER"
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#358 | TheCodeisBosco | Posted 11/4/2011 9:33:31 PM | message detail
pjbasis posted...
This is really stabilizing at 80.

I love this, not just for the contestants, but for the whole contest.


Agreed. Now that we know people take the rivalry factor seriously, we could actually be in for something special.
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#359 | Greyfeld | Posted 11/4/2011 9:35:28 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
Yesterday's chart:

Time | Sonik | Katcat | Votes
0:05 | 73.80% | 26.20% | 500
1:00 | 74.11% | 25.89% | 4781
2:00 | 74.53% | 25.47% | 4040
3:00 | 73.79% | 26.21% | 3930
4:00 | 73.39% | 26.61% | 3984
5:00 | 75.20% | 24.80% | 3706
6:00 | 73.21% | 26.79% | 3557
7:00 | 73.00% | 27.00% | 3252
8:00 | 71.83% | 28.17% | 3000
9:00 | 71.44% | 28.56% | 2668
10:00 | 71.08% | 28.92% | 2403
11:00 | 71.86% | 28.14% | 2335
12:00 | 70.41% | 29.59% | 2031

Gradual decline to each timeframe for Sonic/Robotnik here. Just as a reminder: Robotnik had one of the worst day votes we've ever seen in the Villains Contest.


I guess that really shouldn't come as a surprise. I would assume that most everybody that votes for Robotnik is all about OLD SCHOOL sonic.

Especially since Sega stuck him with that ridiculous nickname "Dr. Eggman."
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#360 | Greyfeld | Posted 11/4/2011 9:37:06 PM | message detail
TheCodeisBosco posted...
pjbasis posted...
This is really stabilizing at 80.

I love this, not just for the contestants, but for the whole contest.

Agreed. Now that we know people take the rivalry factor seriously, we could actually be in for something special.


I've been saying that people are going to take rivalries seriously for weeks. Hell, NGamer practically got booed off his mic this week for even suggesting that it might be possible.

That said, I think we're going to see a drop in percentage overnight.
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#361 | FateStayAlbion | Posted 11/4/2011 9:37:16 PM | message detail
Well, so much for Gordon beating the Phoenix Wright Duo! Ah well, this may make the contest more interesting if rivalries actually matter. Maybe Ryu/Ken can even beat Samus!
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#362 | junk_funk | Posted 11/4/2011 9:38:22 PM | message detail
The more I think about it the more I think it's not rivalries that are making the difference.

It's two strong characters together on a team that make that team badass. Doesn't matter how much they rival each other, only matters how strong they both are individually before entering the match. Which is potentially bad news for teams like Samus and Ridley and possibly good news for Cloud and Sephiroth.
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#363 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/4/2011 9:38:36 PM | message detail
So let's say Sigma were in this match instead of Zero:

How much lower would the percentage be?
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#364 | KamikazePotato | Posted 11/4/2011 9:39:19 PM | message detail
A lot.
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#365 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 11/4/2011 9:41:44 PM | message detail
Most of the board has been thinking people would vote for the actual rivalries, or else the Trainers > Luigi pick wouldn't be so popular here.

I'm still thinking about that recent Cloud/Falcon match. Even with large anti-voting in that match, a big Cloud drop-off, Falcon fanbase deterioration, and complete apathy about Black Shadow, you'd think Falcon would be doing better. He may actually avoid the tripling by the end of this, but this match indicates that a lot of the stuff we already know about this contest will be flipped on its head.
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#366 | Neosadus | Posted 11/4/2011 9:45:02 PM | message detail
junk_funk posted...
The more I think about it the more I think it's not rivalries that are making the difference.

It's two strong characters together on a team that make that team badass. Doesn't matter how much they rival each other, only matters how strong they both are individually before entering the match. Which is potentially bad news for teams like Samus and Ridley and possibly good news for Cloud and Sephiroth.


This is what I'm thinking.
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#367 | Haguile | Posted 11/4/2011 9:45:50 PM | message detail
Is this like a horror movie where you think the creature is weakening but then it keeps growing and growing?
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#368 | FateStayAlbion | Posted 11/4/2011 10:01:02 PM | message detail
X/Zero just had their two best updates of the match so far... looks like we're getting out of the Nintendo Power Hour now.
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#369 | red sox 777 | Posted 11/4/2011 10:01:12 PM | message detail
Megaman might not drop off overnight- this is Captain Falcon we're talking about. His strength comes from Smash, and Smash has the worst overnight vote bar none, including Megaman.
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#370 | Haguile | Posted 11/4/2011 10:01:44 PM | message detail
80.89% now. This is...interesting.
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#371 | TheCodeisBosco | Posted 11/4/2011 10:03:20 PM | message detail
Here's where Falcon and Shadow are gonna have a hard time.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4514&region=ASI
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#372 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 11/4/2011 10:03:32 PM | message detail
Check out the percentages in Asia.
Falcon TAN
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#373 | pjbasis | Posted 11/4/2011 10:06:01 PM | message detail
Earthworm Jim vs. Captain Falcon who you got?
#374 | ZenOfThunder | Posted 11/4/2011 10:07:44 PM | message detail
I think Falcon wins by being slightly more relevant
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#375 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/4/2011 10:12:02 PM | message detail
Falcon wins easily.

But it's still a big jump from 80 to 85%, and X/Zero probably don't finish above 80.
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#376 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/4/2011 10:13:50 PM | message detail
Now, I definitely WANT X/Zero to win, but let's not entertain any serious thoughts. Mega Man was smashing fools in 2010 and still felt the Mario pain train when it counted.
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#377 | TheCodeisBosco | Posted 11/4/2011 10:17:21 PM | message detail
81% reached.

What on earth.
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#378 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 11/4/2011 10:17:21 PM | message detail
81%? Zero must have figured out what he is fighting for.
Go for the quintupling!
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#379 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 11/4/2011 10:19:36 PM | message detail
Well, I was worried my oracle was going to be inaccurate, but not on the low side. This is something else.
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#380 | pjbasis | Posted 11/4/2011 10:26:28 PM | message detail

From: Kotetsu534 | #379
Well, I was worried my oracle was going to be inaccurate, but not on the low side. This is something else.


Yep, I'd have to hope X bleeds to 76. But at this rate he just keeps going up.
#381 | MarioSuperstar | Posted 11/4/2011 10:43:32 PM | message detail
I'm shocked no one put up the possibility ability that rivalries are still highly game-based and Black Shadow isn't in Brawl.
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#382 | BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/4/2011 10:56:07 PM | message detail
So, since Falcon/Shadow should be > Jim/Queen SFAB by a considerable amount, can we start the X/Zero > Mario/Bowser hype train? X did really good on Mario directly 2 years ago, and Zero adds more to X than Bowser does to Mario. I mean, just look at the 2004 contest. Bowser got SFF'd into the GROUND by Mario, but Zero held up really well against Mega Man.
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#383 | FateStayAlbion | Posted 11/4/2011 10:57:45 PM | message detail
BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
So, since Falcon/Shadow should be > Jim/Queen SFAB by a considerable amount, can we start the X/Zero > Mario/Bowser hype train? X did really good on Mario directly 2 years ago, and Zero adds more to X than Bowser does to Mario. I mean, just look at the 2004 contest. Bowser got SFF'd into the GROUND by Mario, but Zero held up really well against Mega Man.

In all honesty, don't get your hopes up. If X couldn't even beat Mario with Link in the poll a couple years back, he has no chance in a straight up match.
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#384 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 11/4/2011 10:59:36 PM | message detail
Score-Brackets-% Right
3--------7124------96.28
2--------6325------94.28
1--------2023------91.20
0--------80----------33.75

Overall prediction percentage is quite high as you would expect. Oddly we lose quite a few zero brackets here. I wonder what kind of bracket they had to score their first point here.

Only 3 people fell off the Top 50 this time. ParamoreTwitter, Joe_Q_Studsman and HagbardCeline23 did not have Sonic the Hedgehog vs. Dr. Robotnik winning.
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#385 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/4/2011 11:00:18 PM | message detail

From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #382
can we start the X/Zero > Mario/Bowser hype train?


No.
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#386 | Lopen | Posted 11/4/2011 11:15:38 PM | message detail
X/Zero vs Mario/Bowser could be pretty interesting-- unfortunately RIVALRY FACTOR helps Mario/Bowser quite a bit too so yeah I'm not really feeling good about that one.

Were X/Zero facing Link/Ganondorf as their roadblock, though? I'd be hyping that <_<
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#387 | pjbasis | Posted 11/4/2011 11:19:40 PM | message detail
How much does X/Zero need to get to be in the realm of possibility against Mario/Bowser?

Cause right now they continue to climb.
#388 | Lopen | Posted 11/4/2011 11:23:22 PM | message detail
I think they're already "in the realm of possibility" looking at pure percents, and nothing they get is going to really convince anyone, because people are gonna call for SFF.

I actually think they'll probably end a little lower than they are now, though. Mega Man's pretty frontloaded after the board vote. Like he usually climbs for the first three hours or so then free falls.
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#389 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 11/4/2011 11:25:10 PM | message detail
X/Zero is in the same boat Samus is. She could get 55% on Cloud and people still wouldn't take her over Mario because there's a clear preference when direct matches happen.
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#390 | creativename | Posted 11/4/2011 11:38:16 PM | message detail
What was Turtle's nomination that people are talking about?

And people really expect MMX/Zero to not break 40% on Mario/Bowser...? Why is this? Mario couldn't even break 60% on Mega Man, and Bowser wouldn't break 60% on Zero either. I suppose one could say Mario would break 60% on X - though has anyone considered the possibility Mario wouldn't SFF X as badly as the original MM...? Anyway, I'd be surprised if MMX/Zero couldn't break 40%.

Also it really, really sucks we didn't get Mario/Sonic or Mario/Crono. I think either of those teams could have won it all.

From: WarThaNemesis2 | #305Eh, I'm not feeling rivalry factor from this. If it were rivalry factor Sonic/Robotnik would have done way better.


I disagree strongly with this. Robotnik is crap, no one cares about that "rivalry". Sonic/Knuckles would be the rivalry there. Knuckles is much stronger than Robotnik.

Come to think of it - how did Robotnik make it instead of Knuckles anyway?

From: pjbasis | #387How much does X/Zero need to get to be in the realm of possibility against


I think the Falcon team is just horribly weak. My x-stat calcs had this at over 77% and that's without rivalry factor.

From: WarThaNemesis2 | #389
X/Zero is in the same boat Samus is. She could get 55% on Cloud and people still wouldn't take her over Mario because there's a clear preference when direct matches happen.


Well that's just silly. If Samus got 55% on Cloud then the preference would clearly have flipped, like Sora/Aeris flipped. Preferences aren't everlasting.
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#391 | Lopen | Posted 11/4/2011 11:40:24 PM | message detail
Yeah I agree with CN there. I was calling for Sonic/Robotnik to do poorly because of rivalry factor. No one gives a crap about that. Sonic/Knuckles is the way to go. Hell Sonic/Shadow's arguably better.

And X/Zero is Turtle's nomination. If not for him we might be stuck with X/Sigma because Bacon was an idiot with the nomination suggestions.
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#392 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/4/2011 11:43:10 PM | message detail

From: creativename | #390
What was Turtle's nomination that people are talking about?


X/Zero was the Guru nom.

From: Lopen | #391
Sonic/Shadow's arguably better.


I argue against such drivel!

though has anyone considered the possibility Mario wouldn't SFF X as badly as the original MM...? Anyway, I'd be surprised if MMX/Zero couldn't break 40%.


Mario doesn't need to SFF MMX to break 60%. I really doubt MMX is as strong as Classic. The only reason MMX ever got close to Mario back in 2008 was because he got shackled with Zelda and then once Zelda was gone, he got shackled with Link.
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#393 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 11/4/2011 11:43:33 PM | message detail
What was Turtle's nomination that people are talking about?

Mega Man X vs. Zero was his pick from winning the Guru contest.
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#394 | creativename | Posted 11/4/2011 11:45:28 PM | message detail

From: smitelf | #226I don't think Bo Jackson would beat Lennon. Lennon has worldwide recognition and appeal; Bo Jackson is known only by people who care at least slightly about American sports, which excludes all of Europe. And the 99% brand penetration and general admiration for some of America's old time political figures would bump them above mid-card status.


I'm pretty confident that the vast majority of this site would care a lot more about Bo Jackson than John Lennon. Bo would probably get joke and nostalgia votes, plus he is actually a legend among video gamers. John Lennon would get a big "meh" on this site.

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From: smitelf | #226
Tyrion is more univerally liked than Jaime. If they were the only two options in a poll, I'm confident that Tyrion would come out on top comfortably, like 60/40 minimum.


There have been lots of polls for Ice and Fire characters, and both Jaime and Tyrion are near the top. I think they'd probably go 50/50. I really don't think it would be 60/40 - I think you significantly underestimate just how popular Jaime is amongst the readership.

From: smitelf | #226
A character who flings a kid off a building (because the kid caught him in flagrante delicto with his own sister) and basically flips the bird to the kid's mom can't expect to win a popularity contest. Especially when that is his first impression.

Meanwhile, the first impression Tyrion makes in the Game of Thrones show is sex with busty women and smacking Joffrey. As you said, they are very different characters, and I think it's hard to argue against Tyrion being designed as more likable.


Considering that Jaime is indeed massively popular, for sure among the top 5 most popular characters in the series, the first impression is obviously not that important. And Tyrion was not likable at all in Dance, he was kind of a dirtbag.

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#395 | pjbasis | Posted 11/4/2011 11:48:18 PM | message detail
Sonic/Shadow would definitely be the stronger entry.

Unless Shadow draws a severe amount of antivotes.
#396 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/4/2011 11:51:08 PM | message detail

From: pjbasis | #395
Unless Shadow draws a severe amount of antivotes.


More than Knuckles would.

The less 3-D Sonic this gets, the better.
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#397 | creativename | Posted 11/4/2011 11:51:29 PM | message detail

From: Lopen | #391And X/Zero is Turtle's nomination. If not for him we might be stuck with X/Sigma because Bacon was an idiot with the nomination suggestions.


Oh dear lord. That would have sucked.

Though sadly, Bacon blew it anyway since I guess in terms of bracket path for MMX it would have made no difference.

MMX/Zero should really have been facing the Snakes. Would that have been the most hotly debated "big" match possible?

From: LeonhartFour | #392I argue against such drivel!


I think he was saying Sonic/Shadow is greater than Sonic/Robotnik, not that Sonic/Shadow is better than Sonic/Knuckles. I agree with that, Shadow probably would add more than Robotnik.

From: LeonhartFour | #392Mario doesn't need to SFF MMX to break 60%. I really doubt MMX is as strong as Classic. The only reason MMX ever got close to Mario back in 2008 was because he got shackled with Zelda and then once Zelda was gone, he got shackled with Link.


Hmm. You have a point, though I still have a hard time seeing Mario/Bowser break 60% on X and Zero.
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#398 | red sox 777 | Posted 11/4/2011 11:55:30 PM | message detail
Yeah, I highly doubt Mario/Bowser can break 60% on X/Zero. Maybe Mario could do it to X, but adding Bowser/Zero to the mix probably makes it closer, even if Bowser is slightly stronger, which I'm not sure of.
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#399 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/5/2011 12:00:41 AM | message detail
I would suspect Bowser would beat Zero head to head.
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#400 | Lopen | Posted 11/5/2011 12:01:30 AM | message detail
I would take Sub-Zero/Scorpion over X/Sigma so I'd say that in some ways X/Sigma would've been more interesting. But who knows maybe we can generate some Mario/Bowser vs X/Zero hype.

And yeah I was obviously talking about Sonic/Shadow being better than Sonic/Robotnik, not Sonic/Knuckles. Though I think Leon disagrees with either.
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