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#401 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 11/3/2011 9:28:38 PM | message detail
I think everyone knows what this really is.

Mega Man Legends 3 Capcom DEBOOST CONFIRMED
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#402 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/3/2011 9:29:42 PM | message detail
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Kirby games aren't really all that popular here, right? I can't see it giving such a large boost to Kirby.


Also, the new Kirby game is for the Wii and this site is currently down on the Wii right now, so I doubt very many people on here are bothering to play it with all of the PS3/Xbox 360/PC games coming out this month.
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#403 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/3/2011 9:29:59 PM | message detail
MK probably torches Nemesis 1 on 1, yeah.
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#404 | KamikazePotato | Posted 11/3/2011 9:30:15 PM | message detail
Kirby is more of a Smash character than a Kirby character, really.
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#405 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/3/2011 9:30:21 PM | message detail
Worst rivalry in the contest is Ramza/Delita

Because it's the furthest thing from a rivalry out of any of the pairings in the contest
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#406 | Justin_Crossing | Posted 11/3/2011 9:30:39 PM | message detail
good luck leon/ada lmao
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#407 | JaKyL25 | Posted 11/3/2011 9:31:02 PM | message detail
Crono/Lavos (not a rivalry, Crono doesn't really have one except MAYBE Queen Zeal)

Crono versus the entire Yakra family
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#408 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/3/2011 9:31:13 PM | message detail
No one cares about the trainers, they care about the Pokemon.
No one cares about the trainers, they care about the Pokemon.
No one cares about the trainers, they care about the Pokemon.

Drill that into your head.
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#409 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/3/2011 9:31:16 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #400
But it could end up being a lot less than what some expected, and Red/Blue's might be a lot bigger than expected, based on arguments made pre-contest and somewhat supported by this poll.


It could.

But it could end up being MORE

Ryu/Ken to the semifinals or bust
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#410 | Haguile | Posted 11/3/2011 9:31:54 PM | message detail
My take on the Waluigi vs Luigi rivalry is this:

Neither of them has a lot of personality, and it doesn't seem like a real rivalry.

On the other hand:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYGEfge8JQk

Waluigi is part of DX. He's probably Shawn Michaels because he can totally hit a superkick based on his gigantic legs. Therefore he's excused from anything resembling logic.

In other words, there are worse rivalries that don't do crotch chops, and as such I'm forced to conclude that GO GO WALUIGI.
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#411 | pjbasis | Posted 11/3/2011 9:32:44 PM | message detail
But...but...#1 seed!

Red didn't have that!
#412 | charmander6000 | Posted 11/3/2011 9:33:15 PM | message detail
I'm just saying that a lot of the boost Red/Blue would get would be nullified by Ryu/Ken since they too are a good rivalry and then you have to consider the difference in strength between the couple originally. Heck Ken has a great chance at defeating Red.
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#413 | KamikazePotato | Posted 11/3/2011 9:33:41 PM | message detail
UltimaterializerX posted...
No one cares about the trainers, they care about the Pokemon.
No one cares about the trainers, they care about the Pokemon.
No one cares about the trainers, they care about the Pokemon.

Drill that into your head.


People care about the rivalry. People care about RBY. People care about the Pokemon, which will be in the pics.

This is not a 1 v 1 contest. At least, we'd better hope it isn't.
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#414 | BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/3/2011 9:34:22 PM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #399
Rivalries worse than Wa/Luigi:

Bartz/Gilgamesh (joke boss does not a rivalry make, not to mention Gilgamesh liking the guy but I won't go into spoilers)
Leon/Ada (not a rivalry in any sense in any game)
Yuna/Seymour (pretty much every party member EXCEPT Yuna has good reason for wanting Seymour dead)
Gordon/Breen (never played HL2, just going by what people say, you can ignore this if I'm wrong)
Ness/Giygas (not a rivalry in EarthBound, this should have been Ness vs Porky)
Crono/Lavos (not a rivalry, Crono doesn't really have one except MAYBE Queen Zeal)
BJ/Hitler (one boss fight is not a rivalry)


Whoa, I totally forgot Ness/Giygas was in the bracket.

Yeah, a lot of these entrants scream of people not understanding what a rivalry is.
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#415 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/3/2011 9:34:27 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #413
People care about the Pokemon, which will be in the pics.


Well, you're under the assumption that they will.

And under the assumption that seeing Charizard/Blastoise will make people want to vote for things that aren't Charizard/Blastoise.
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#416 | TheCodeisBosco | Posted 11/3/2011 9:34:35 PM | message detail
KamikazePotato posted...
Kirby is more of a Smash character than a Kirby character, really.

That's true, and also kind of depressing. Kirby games are vastly underrated; Amazing Mirror was one of the best games of the past decade.
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#417 | red sox 777 | Posted 11/3/2011 9:34:47 PM | message detail
So if the result we drawing from this match is that the strength of the 2nd character matters a lot......Cloud hype train boarding now!
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#418 | Greyfeld | Posted 11/3/2011 9:35:09 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
From: KamikazePotato | #400
But it could end up being a lot less than what some expected, and Red/Blue's might be a lot bigger than expected, based on arguments made pre-contest and somewhat supported by this poll.
It could.

But it could end up being MORE

Ryu/Ken to the semifinals or bust


lol I have Ryu/Ken to the semi's too. My only concern is getting past Samus.

Or, in my case, getting past the Bosses >.>
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#419 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/3/2011 9:35:43 PM | message detail
FFT spoilers because this site still doesn't have spoiler tags.





From: LeonhartFour | #405
Worst rivalry in the contest is Ramza/Delita

Because it's the furthest thing from a rivalry out of any of the pairings in the contest


Say whaaaaaa?

This is just a lie. The best kind of rivalries are those who fight for historical recognition and the wrong guy wins. It happens in every civilization and is always fascinating. Final Fantasy Tactics is the best view of Medieval Europe you'll ever get in a video game, and the only game to ever pull historical fallacy thing off well except maybe Metal Gear Solid 3. The church outright banned the pursuit of knowledge and kept a lot of great men from being remembered.

FFT seriously has one of the most profound plots ever written and it's a legit rivalry in every sense. You're dead wrong on this. The only reason Delita doesn't kill Ramza is because he knows doing so will kill his secret position in the church and his chance of being made king are done for.
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#420 | BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/3/2011 9:35:45 PM | message detail
I can't wait for Pokemon to fall on its face again. Aside from Charizard, I haven't called a Pokemon match wrong in YEARS.
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#421 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/3/2011 9:36:09 PM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #399
(pretty much every party member EXCEPT Yuna has good reason for wanting Seymour dead)


Also I would say Yuna would have more reason for wanting Seymour dead than anybody, actually. And that's why she actively tries to get rid of him personally on multiple occasions throughout the game.

I didn't actually read that before, but now that I have, I feel the need to comment on how silly this is.
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#422 | KamikazePotato | Posted 11/3/2011 9:36:16 PM | message detail
And under the assumption that seeing Charizard/Blastoise will make people want to vote for things that aren't Charizard/Blastoise.

Uh...yeah. That should be obvious. There's a reason BB does like 10x better when he's copying Solid Snake. Plus, the Pokemon are intrinsically linked to the trainers. It'll conjure up good memories.
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#423 | JaKyL25 | Posted 11/3/2011 9:37:19 PM | message detail
Seriously, I wasn't following the nominations process, how did we allow Ness/Giygas in over Ness/Porky?

Was it because Giygas is more interesting when it comes to pic making?

In that case I wish there was a Ness/Giygas Rivalry Rumble banner!
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#424 | BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/3/2011 9:37:56 PM | message detail

From: Greyfeld | #418
LeonhartFour posted...
From: KamikazePotato | #400
But it could end up being a lot less than what some expected, and Red/Blue's might be a lot bigger than expected, based on arguments made pre-contest and somewhat supported by this poll.
It could.

But it could end up being MORE

Ryu/Ken to the semifinals or bust


lol I have Ryu/Ken to the semi's too. My only concern is getting past Samus.

Or, in my case, getting past the Bosses >.>


See, the problem with that is Samus/Ridley is one of the more iconic rivalries in the bracket. Not as iconic as Ryu/Ken, but certainly moreso than the majority of entrants.
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#425 | KamikazePotato | Posted 11/3/2011 9:38:00 PM | message detail
Ulti, the thing about all those rivalries you listed is that in those, the two parties at least confronted each other once. What does Luigi/Waluigi have? A one-second clip in the opening of Mario Tennis? You can't just say "By the way, these guys are rivals" and expect me to care.
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#426 | red sox 777 | Posted 11/3/2011 9:38:11 PM | message detail
Bacon was pretty fixated on 90% of the rivalries being hero/villain.
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#427 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/3/2011 9:38:20 PM | message detail
My Ezio > DK upset is looking bad. Nintendo with lower vote totals = look out.
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#428 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 11/3/2011 9:38:48 PM | message detail
I can't wait for Pokemon to fall on its face again. Aside from Charizard, I haven't called a Pokemon match wrong in YEARS.

You had Crono over Missingno. didn't you?
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#429 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/3/2011 9:39:06 PM | message detail
Luigi and Waluigi have all the sports games going for them. Not saying the rivalry is any good AT ALL, but it's not the worst outright.
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#430 | KamikazePotato | Posted 11/3/2011 9:39:10 PM | message detail
Pokey is more of a villain than Giygas is. He's the Golbez to Giygas' Zeromus. Problem is that Giygas' boss fight is very, very, very memorable.
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#431 | BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/3/2011 9:40:00 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #426
Bacon was pretty fixated on 90% of the rivalries being hero/villain.


Which is why X/Zero and Ryu/Ken are probably my 2 top rivalries in the bracket.
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#432 | Greyfeld | Posted 11/3/2011 9:40:23 PM | message detail
red sox 777 posted...
So if the result we drawing from this match is that the strength of the 2nd character matters a lot......Cloud hype train boarding now!

As much as I wanted to take Cloud/Seph over Link/Ganondorf (afterall, I do consider the former the better rivalry), I just don't believe that the "rivalry factor" is going to make a huge difference in your standard Cloud/Link matchup.

I mean really, are all the FF7 or Zelda fans going to look at the contest and decide "Well... it is a rivalry contest," and decide to pick the opposing characters? Not bloody likely. The match is going to be decided by people who are familiar with both sets of characters, but don't have strong feelings toward one set or the other. And I've a feeling that group of people is surprisingly small on GameFAQs.
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#433 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/3/2011 9:40:27 PM | message detail
**FFT SPOILERS**



From: UltimaterializerX | #419
This is just a lie. The best kind of rivalries are those who fight for historical recognition and the wrong guy wins. It happens in every civilization and is always fascinating. Final Fantasy Tactics is the best view of Medieval Europe you'll ever get in a video game, and the only game to ever pull historical fallacy thing off well except maybe Metal Gear Solid 3. The church outright banned the pursuit of knowledge and kept a lot of great men from being remembered.

FFT seriously has one of the most profound plots ever written and it's a legit rivalry in every sense. You're dead wrong on this. The only reason Delita doesn't kill Ramza is because he knows doing so will kill his secret position in the church and his chance of being made king are done for.


Ramza and Delita are not rivals. They are foils. What you described in the first paragraph has nothing to do with a rivalry.

Ramza and Delita do not oppose each other at any single point in the game (unless you want to count "The princess is safer with me than you," but Delita doesn't even make a big deal out of it). They are friends throughout. Yes, even at the end, Delita still considers Ramza a friend. Ramza never would have fought Delita anyway, and regardless, they had no reason to fight each other. They wanted the same thing. For different reasons, sure, but they wanted the same thing.

Delita doesn't kill Ramza because he knows Ramza can accomplish what he wants in the end, and because they're friends. Delita isn't as heartless as you make him out to be. Delita using Ramza to fulfill his purposes doesn't mean he would've killed him if he had the chance. Killing Ramza wouldn't have hurt any of that stuff, considering the church actually wants Ramza dead. And Delita helps protect Ramza from the church, which would've blown his cover much more than actually killing Ramza would have.
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#434 | KamikazePotato | Posted 11/3/2011 9:40:35 PM | message detail
I get that they have the sports games, but if their rivalry even ever referenced? I'm being serious here. To my knowledge, the extent that the rivalry is shown is Waluigi being under Luigi in the loading screen (I'm guessing).
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#435 | JaKyL25 | Posted 11/3/2011 9:41:20 PM | message detail
The funny thing about Ryu/Ken is that while yes, it's a great rivalry, that's one instance where I would have gone hero/villain and went with Ryu/Sagat.

To be fair I don't know much about the Street Fighter canon beyond SF2.
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#436 | BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/3/2011 9:41:56 PM | message detail
Think the idea of the Waluigi/Luigi rivalry is based on Wario/Mario
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#437 | KamikazePotato | Posted 11/3/2011 9:42:05 PM | message detail
*FFT SPOILERS*





Delita is pretty heartless by the end of the game. I don't think he wanted to kill Ramza outright, but if he had needed to, he would've done it.







*END SPOILERS*


Also, where are the spoiler tags already?
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#438 | Greyfeld | Posted 11/3/2011 9:42:35 PM | message detail
BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
From: Greyfeld | #418
LeonhartFour posted...
From: KamikazePotato | #400
But it could end up being a lot less than what some expected, and Red/Blue's might be a lot bigger than expected, based on arguments made pre-contest and somewhat supported by this poll.
It could.

But it could end up being MORE

Ryu/Ken to the semifinals or bust

lol I have Ryu/Ken to the semi's too. My only concern is getting past Samus.

Or, in my case, getting past the Bosses >.>
See, the problem with that is Samus/Ridley is one of the more iconic rivalries in the bracket. Not as iconic as Ryu/Ken, but certainly moreso than the majority of entrants.


Maybe, but I wasn't sure. I've never actually played a Metroid game, and I've seen a lot of people on here say that Ridley didn't do much for Samus. In the end, it might be some lost points to have the Bosses go to the quarter finals, but I was always going to hinge my bracket on having Ryu/Ken to the semis.
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#439 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/3/2011 9:42:44 PM | message detail

From: JaKyL25 | #435
The funny thing about Ryu/Ken is that while yes, it's a great rivalry, that's one instance where I would have gone hero/villain and went with Ryu/Sagat.

To be fair I don't know much about the Street Fighter canon beyond SF2.


Ryu/Akuma is a better rivalry for the purposes of the series than Ryu/Sagat, in my opinion.

Probably mostly due to my love for the Alpha games.
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#440 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/3/2011 9:42:46 PM | message detail
Delita cut some hooker's tongue out to keep her from talking too much and assassinated god only knows how many people. That guy would have absolutely killed Ramza if he needed to.
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#441 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/3/2011 9:43:15 PM | message detail
Well, maybe he would have if he had needed to.

But here's the thing: He never needed to.

Because they never opposed each other.
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#442 | BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/3/2011 9:43:31 PM | message detail

From: JaKyL25 | #435
The funny thing about Ryu/Ken is that while yes, it's a great rivalry, that's one instance where I would have gone hero/villain and went with Ryu/Sagat.

To be fair I don't know much about the Street Fighter canon beyond SF2.


Ryu/Ken is far better. It's so much more multi-faceted a rivalry compared to Ryu/Sagat which is basically ("He scratched my chest, KILL HIM")
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#443 | KamikazePotato | Posted 11/3/2011 9:44:57 PM | message detail
They opposed each other in different ways than your standard video game rivalry. It was more of a philosophical/mental/upbringing thing. Not every rivalry needs a boss fight.
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#444 | BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/3/2011 9:45:13 PM | message detail

From: Greyfeld | #438
BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
From: Greyfeld | #418
LeonhartFour posted...
From: KamikazePotato | #400
But it could end up being a lot less than what some expected, and Red/Blue's might be a lot bigger than expected, based on arguments made pre-contest and somewhat supported by this poll.
It could.

But it could end up being MORE

Ryu/Ken to the semifinals or bust

lol I have Ryu/Ken to the semi's too. My only concern is getting past Samus.

Or, in my case, getting past the Bosses >.>
See, the problem with that is Samus/Ridley is one of the more iconic rivalries in the bracket. Not as iconic as Ryu/Ken, but certainly moreso than the majority of entrants.


Maybe, but I wasn't sure. I've never actually played a Metroid game, and I've seen a lot of people on here say that Ridley didn't do much for Samus. In the end, it might be some lost points to have the Bosses go to the quarter finals, but I was always going to hinge my bracket on having Ryu/Ken to the semis.


I still think the whole "Ridley will drag Smaus down!!!!!!!11111111111" crap is way overblown. He won't hurt Samus any worse than Liquid/Robotnik/Wily/Lavos hurt their counterparts.
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#445 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/3/2011 9:45:35 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #443
It was more of a philosophical/mental/upbringing thing.


Yes, this makes Ramza/Delita foils.

It doesn't make them rivals.
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#446 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/3/2011 9:46:21 PM | message detail
Yeah Ryu/Akuma is the superior rivalry to Ryu/Sagat. It wasn't even Ryu who gave Sagat the scar, it was Ryu with satsui no hado powers. Basically, Akuma made Ryu do it because Akuma is a boss.

I hate Ryu and think he's everything wrong with Capcom and fighting games in general (never evolving), but let's be real here. Rivalry-wise, the only thing Ryu even does is convince Capcom to retcon Sagat being a villain out of existence because Capcom is a goddamn joke.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzQPZUMqd_0

A GODDAMN JOKE
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#447 | BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/3/2011 9:46:24 PM | message detail
Even X/Zero is a way better rivalry. It starts off with X wanting to be as strong as Zero, then a difference in their philosophies towards war and fighting. They even end up fighting at several points in the series.
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#448 | red sox 777 | Posted 11/3/2011 9:46:31 PM | message detail
Jill still holding around 60% in Europe and Asia. Kirby's 67% in the US is crushing this poll right now.
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#449 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/3/2011 9:47:16 PM | message detail
red sox 777 | Posted 11/4/2011 12:34:47 AM | message detail | quote
So if the result we drawing from this match is that the strength of the 2nd character matters a lot......Cloud hype train boarding now!


It seems that way. Rikku is probably slightly stronger than Jill, but it seems like Kirby could even finish above 60% here, leading me to believe that Meta Knight is helping out the team a bit since he's stronger than Nemesis.
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#450 | JaKyL25 | Posted 11/3/2011 9:47:31 PM | message detail
Needs more Yoshi vs. Raphael Raven
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