GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1009
From: LeonhartFour | #341 They certainly out-game them, though. Judging by this match, Kirby and MK are clearly overperforming based on what we expected from 1v1 matches. This is way, way north of what Kirby had on Rikku, and I wouldn't take Jill to lose against her. What accounts for such an overperformance? I'd say it's gotta be the biggest games for each rep, which in this case is Melee/Brawl. All just speculation at this point, but this match certainly isn't making me feel worse about Red/Blue. Or any Nintendo team. --- Yoblazer: http://oi52.tinypic.com/ad21i1.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
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Score-Brackets-% Right 1--------15391----63.67 0--------161--------35.40 Nothing really special here. It'll take a few more matches for the different scoring tiers to spread out a bit. 12 people fell off the Top 50 today. Former first place Viviff, former second place HeroicTombolo, gitanil2, bassdeluxe27, JKGibson2, Perfect_Bracket, Asrun_Dream, Happynoodleboy4, TomNook7, feartheducky, Apollo_Phoenix and MrSmartGuy sided with Conker vs Poo over Ike vs Black Knight. --- Pokemon VGC2011 NW Regional - Top 8 Pokemon VGC2011 US Nationals - 54th place |
From: FFDragon | #347 I might be a whore, but bad is bad. 4 > REmake > 2 > CVX > 5 > 3 > 0 --- "Fun fact: If ANY other user had said what Ulti said, it would have gotten like one response. Obsess much?" -Sess |
It could be that Nemesis sucks. He has decent numbers from 2005, but that was 6 years ago after all. --- 90s games > 00s games |
The
fact that Ryu can be as darn popular as he is despite the fact that
fighting games aren't very popular here probably speaks to how large
SF2's playrate is. Probably means a lot of the voters "respect" Ryu, too, if they're willing to vote him so highly but not his games. --- http://i.imgur.com/CbfFb.jpg |
Wait
why would a significant amount of people that have played RBY but not
Street Fighter vote Ryu > Red then see this is as a rivalry contest
and switch to Red/Blue > Ryu/Ken? Bad comparison anyway because Red isn't going to be nearly as strong as Red/Blue regardless, but essentially, yes. People equate rivalries with games more easily. The pics will help with that, too. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
From: KamikazePotato | #350 Oh good Ryu/Ken should be fine then --- "So cold. I am always by your side." "There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!" |
I
think the overperformance comes from people not giving a crap about the
rivalry and just voting for their favorite character. This poll is Jill
Valentine against 2 people because no one gives a crap about Nemesis. ie, my Luigi > Pokemon upset is a really dumb pick now. --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.· It's so kawaii desu kama-san-nii-kun-chan-sama ^.^;; |
When did you turn around on RE5? I thought you were staunchly opposed? --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? [HERO'S PLUNGE] http://img.imgcake.com/finegifdy.gif |
Well, the shoe finally dropped and Kirby lost a percent. --- 90s games > 00s games |
CVX ahead of 5, my bad. --- ~*~Board 8~*~ It's all Ulti, all the time. |
Jill is winning in both Europe and Asia. Could see a lot of bleeding over night from the percentage its at now. --- http://www.yourgamercards.net/trophy/a/RyanSaotome.png http://myanimelist.net/signature/RyanSaotome.png |
Ryu
does well because he's a fighting game symbol. No other fighting game
character comes anywhere near to him. He's similar to Dante in that
regard - and guess what, after this result, Dante/Vergil are in a
boatload of trouble as well. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
UltimaterializerX posted... ie, my Luigi > Pokemon upset is a really dumb pick now. Keep the faith, man. GoodTasteFAQs will prevail! (...hopefully?) --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] |
Bad
comparison anyway because Red isn't going to be nearly as strong as
Red/Blue regardless, but essentially, yes. People equate rivalries with
games more easily. The pics will help with that, too. That still doesn't make sense because you're assuming that people would vote against a character from a game that they have played against a character from a game they haven't played yet switch it up in a rivalry format. If you aren't willing to vote for a character you've played over a character you've never played then you probably didn't like the character in the first place. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Rival Rumble: 2/2 Today: Kirby/Meta Knight & Sonic/Robotnik |
From: UltimaterializerX | #358 Eh? Wouldn't that benefit Luigi, seeing as he's way stronger than the other two. |
GoodTasteFAQs would have Luigi/Waluigi going out in Round 1. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
(2 > REMake > CVX > 4 > 5 > 0 > 3 > UC > DC > Survivor With everything above Survivor being 'good' and everything above UC being 'great' tbqh) --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? [HERO'S PLUNGE] http://img.imgcake.com/finegifdy.gif |
KamikazePotato posted... Wait why would a significant amount of people that have played RBY but not Street Fighter vote Ryu > Red then see this is as a rivalry contest and switch to Red/Blue > Ryu/Ken? Bad comparison anyway because Red isn't going to be nearly as strong as Red/Blue regardless, but essentially, yes. People equate rivalries with games more easily. The pics will help with that, too. Your assumption is that people give a crap about the trainers to begin with. Ryu/Ken has zilch to worry about, unless they go up against a pic with Charizard/Blastoise in the background. RBY is popular. Charizard is popular. Red is fodder. Nobody cares about the trainers, they care about the pokemon. --- PSN - Aevio BlackMageJawa - "I'm on a Goomba." |
By the way, there's a great chance that this will be our first ever match to finish with under 30k votes. EDIT: CERTAINLY NOT THE LAST. --- Yoblazer: http://i33.tinypic.com/ml36gl_th.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
That
still doesn't make sense because you're assuming that people would vote
against a character from a game that they have played against a
character from a game they haven't played yet switch it up in a rivalry
format. This is the basis of the contest. You're basically arguing that the contest format won't affect anything at all. In which case, go ahead. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
ie, my Luigi > Pokemon upset is a really dumb pick now. I would take Luigi to get 50% in a three-way poll. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Rival Rumble: 2/2 Today: Kirby/Meta Knight & Sonic/Robotnik |
From: KamikazePotato | #364 Which means he's respected as such. And he doesn't get to do well as a fighting game symbol unless SF2 has a high play rate. I'd be shocked if more than 20% of GameFAQs had never played ANY kind of Street Fighter at least once. Which means people would probably respect his rivalry with Ken as well. --- "I can set you free, mate." "My freedom was forfeit long ago!" |
Red/Blue will have Pokemon in the pictures every round, most likely. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
LeonhartFour posted... From: KamikazePotato | #364 I'd be shocked if more than 20% of GameFAQs had never played ANY kind of Street Fighter at least once.. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3398 --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
Either
way, this result means we may be in for some interesting results
somewhere down the line, so there may be some hope for this contest yet. --- http://img.imgcake.com/leonpngpe.png http://img.imgcake.com/squalloweenpngem.png |
From: KamikazePotato | #377 "Never liked" =/= "Never played" --- http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2011/8/22/2094c2de-bae8-4f5b-9f27-67eaff0aaeaf.jpg |
KamikazePotato posted... GoodTasteFAQs would have Luigi/Waluigi going out in Round 1. Is this because you prefer Cecil/Golbez, or because you hate Waluigi? If it's because you prefer the FF guys, that's cool. But if you hate Waluigi, you wouldn't even be allowed to make an account on GoodTasteFAQs. :P --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] |
From: KamikazePotato | #364 I wouldn't go that far. I know the Kingdom Hearts series better than almost anyone on this board, and Riku seriously hasn't had a relevant appearance in it since Chain of Memories. FYI, people HATED Chain of Memories. Almost all his strength comes from the original game. He's barely even in 2 or any game after 2. The same almost goes for Sora. He's done nothing since 2 and we're a full year from the whole series sans Roxas looking like garbage last year. Probably because Roxas is actually playable in Fraction Days, but still. Dante probably gets 54% on Sora straight up. --- "Because your so damn ugly, Rice Krispies won't even talk to your sorry ass." -dr pizza |
Isn't Kirby "overperforming" because his new game just came out --- Watch me play games! http://www.livestream.com/dabu |
This
is the basis of the contest. You're basically arguing that the contest
format won't affect anything at all. In which case, go ahead. Rivalry factor will be in effect, but only in matches where the voter has played both games. You aren't going to vote for a rivalry of a game you haven't played over your favourite character likewise, if you've never played Street Fighter and would take Ryu > Red then it's likely you don't care much about pokemon and won't vote for the rivalry unless you are a Blue fan. To voters that have played both games Ryu/Ken is just as strong as Red/Blue. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Rival Rumble: 2/2 Today: Kirby/Meta Knight & Sonic/Robotnik |
I
like Waluigi. Luigi/Waluigi is the worst rivalry in the bracket by a
fairly good margin. It's almost completely nonexistent in the games
themselves. Cecil/Golbez is much, much better. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
From: UltimaterializerX | #381 I think the issue is that KH kills DMC3 in playrate. Either of the main games. --- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/26leonpngat.png http://img.imgcake.com/nio/daigohadoupnguj.png |
From: LordOfDabu | #382 It's possible that there's SOME overperformance. But it wouldn't push 60/40 to 66/34. --- "I can set you free, mate." "My freedom was forfeit long ago!" |
Nemesis: "S.T.A.R.S....." Kirby: *Uses Warp Star* --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://img.imgcake.com/Icon/Punkjpguh.jpg |
Isn't Kirby "overperforming" because his new game just came out Kirby games aren't really all that popular here, right? I can't see it giving such a large boost to Kirby. --- Pokemon VGC2011 NW Regional - Top 8 Pokemon VGC2011 US Nationals - 54th place |
People
are underestimating Meta Knight. He might actually keep things close
against Jill or beat her 1v1. So that's basically two characters better
than the RE duo's best character. And Nemesis is probably no better than
high end fodder himself. I don't think he's that bad (he looked good in
2005 and both of the RE character polls we've had since then), but he's
not helping any when there's two midcarders to contend with. --- "Ahem! There is *sand* on my *boot*!"--Kefka Black Turtle beat me, Yesmar in the Fall 2010 Guru Contest! |
LeonhartFour posted... From: KamikazePotato | #377 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3398 "Never liked" =/= "Never played" Come on. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
Yeah but the overlap between DMC and KH obviously prefers DMC. |
Why not? Lower vote totals will cause any factor to have an exaggerated effect. --- Watch me play games! http://www.livestream.com/dabu |
From: KamikazePotato | #390 Not really sure what the issue is here. I'm sure there are plenty of people who've played SF and didn't like it, and never played another game in the series. --- http://img.imgcake.com/leonpngpe.png http://img.imgcake.com/squalloweenpngem.png |
Wow, Nemesis suckssssss and MetaKnight is surprisingly decent --- http://www.yourgamercards.net/trophy/a/NathanDrake90.png |
KamikazePotato posted... I like Waluigi. Luigi/Waluigi is the worst rivalry in the bracket by a fairly good margin. It's almost completely nonexistent in the games themselves. Cecil/Golbez is much, much better. We're cool, in that case! This is definitely understandable. I'm hoping Luigi/Waluigi do well, simply because I want the trainers to flop; but indeed, the rivalry itself was kind of a weird choice for the bracket. They're two great characters that barely have any sort of rivalry. --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] |
From: LordOfDabu | #392 Not necessarily. Percentages don't usually change much between 30,000 votes and 50,000 votes. Once they settle in, they don't shift too much. I mean, unless we're saying that a large chunk of the voters who stayed are Kirby fans or the ones who left are RE fans. --- http://i52.tinypic.com/2zfiu09.gif http://i54.tinypic.com/10729w2.gif |
From: tgs2 | #335 You realize the Guru is only like a 2 week sig bet right? At least that was always my assumption. I just figured everyone was lazy. --- http://i49.tinypic.com/2ry672r.jpg |
From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #397 Bingo. --- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/26leonpngat.png http://img.imgcake.com/nio/daigohadoupnguj.png |
From: KamikazePotato | #384 Rivalries worse than Wa/Luigi: Bartz/Gilgamesh (joke boss does not a rivalry make, not to mention Gilgamesh liking the guy but I won't go into spoilers) Leon/Ada (not a rivalry in any sense in any game) Yuna/Seymour (pretty much every party member EXCEPT Yuna has good reason for wanting Seymour dead) Gordon/Breen (never played HL2, just going by what people say, you can ignore this if I'm wrong) Ness/Giygas (not a rivalry in EarthBound, this should have been Ness vs Porky) Crono/Lavos (not a rivalry, Crono doesn't really have one except MAYBE Queen Zeal) BJ/Hitler (one boss fight is not a rivalry) --- .·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·. "I'm about as entertaining as a tax form." -Math Murderer |
Anyway,
I'm not sure what the argument here is anyway. No one's saying Ryu/Ken
don't get a rivalry boost. It's Ryu/Ken. But it could end up being a lot
less than what some expected, and Red/Blue's might be a lot bigger than
expected, based on arguments made pre-contest and somewhat supported by
this poll. Of course, it's only been one match and this contest would
very well end up being boring, but what's the point of having these
discussions if you're going to ignore our first piece of evidence? --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
