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#151 | Lightning Strikes | Posted 11/3/2011 9:14:37 AM | message detail
I don't know if somebody has already pointed this out but

Pokefear 1 Pokemon Trainer Red vs. Pokemon Trainer Blue

Amazing. It's even better than the Katherine vs. Catherine one.
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#152 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/3/2011 9:15:04 AM | message detail

From: FFDragon | #150
This contest is so bad in concept and now in execution. What happened to our once glorious domain?


All will change tonight.
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#153 | __Smurf__ | Posted 11/3/2011 9:15:25 AM | message detail
Its very weird to see a gap of 177 and then realise its a 60/40 match. >_>
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#154 | transcience | Posted 11/3/2011 9:15:50 AM | message detail
battle contest is great. sotc owned so many people last year. that alone made it worth it.

in a contest like this it will be even better because it seems very predictable. one upset will wreck a huge streak and banking will be super risky.
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#155 | Haguile | Posted 11/3/2011 9:16:04 AM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | Posted: 11/3/2011 12:05:17 PM | #121
Speaking candidly, I don't know why anyone actually wanted Poo to win this. It's poo. Does anyone like poo anymore? Maybe it's because I didn't play CBFD, but out of all the joke characters we've seen this one seems the crappiest, and I don't mean that as a pun.


Frankly I had no thought process involved with wanting Poo to win. I just looked at the bracket and went "eh don't really like Ike. I remember Poo being funny. Also it's poo." Never thought about it until now.
I guess you could say I half-wanted Poo to win because I just don't give a s***.
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#156 | KamikazePotato | Posted 11/3/2011 9:16:17 AM | message detail
ParamoreTwitter 1 Katherine vs. Catherine
Pokefear 1 Pokemon Trainer Red vs. Pokemon Trainer Blue
CHRIIIIIIIIIIIS 1 Chris Redfield vs. Albert Wesker
FunEntry 1 Link vs. Ganondorf
Perfect_Bracket 1 Link vs. Ganondorf
Joe_Q_Studsman 1 Pokemon Trainer Red vs. Pokemon Trainer Blue
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#157 | __Smurf__ | Posted 11/3/2011 9:16:31 AM | message detail

From: FFDragon | #150
This contest is so bad in concept and now in execution. What happened to our once glorious domain?


It does have a feel of a user contest. Its a bit surreal.
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#158 | Haguile | Posted 11/3/2011 9:16:32 AM | message detail
I promise I'll stop the terrible jokes
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#159 | XIII_rocks | Posted 11/3/2011 9:16:38 AM | message detail

From: Lightning Strikes | #151
I don't know if somebody has already pointed this out but

Pokefear 1 Pokemon Trainer Red vs. Pokemon Trainer Blue

Amazing. It's even better than the Katherine vs. Catherine one.




Not as good as this imo

16 CHRIIIIIIIIIIIS 1 Chris Redfield vs. Albert Wesker
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#160 | XIII_rocks | Posted 11/3/2011 9:17:00 AM | message detail
Oh, KP caught it.
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#161 | TheOneAboveAll | Posted 11/3/2011 9:18:33 AM | message detail
battle contest is great. sotc owned so many people last year. that alone made it worth it.

Didn't own me. I still have that screencap of where I was the only one on the leaderboard without 0 at-risk points. Of course, I blew it a few matches later (and would have lost on Kingdom Hearts anyway even if I hadn't been stupid about Paper Mario).
#162 | LOLContests | Posted 11/3/2011 9:18:49 AM | message detail
Hmmm, If this match's votals are 15% less than Rock Band 2/ Deus Ex that would put it over 40,000 overall, which is still over 50,000 in a 24 hour match, which while pretty horrible, probably still isn't any worse than 2002/post-merger 2004.
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#163 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/3/2011 9:24:43 AM | message detail | (edited)

From: FFDragon | #150
This contest is so bad in concept and now in execution. What happened to our once glorious domain?


Two major issues. One, GameFAQs operates on a now-irrelevant medium (text-based guides).

Two, Gamespot has better contest ideas than we do. The execution sucks, but the ideas themselves are good.

Sorry, it's true. This site needs all-fictional eligibility and/or a games contest with no gimmicks. No divisions by era, nothing. The only gimmick worth trying is making a tournament of champions and removing FF7, OOT and Majora.

Edit: There's also the obvious shrinking site problem. This site goes out of its way to be the most unwelcoming forum on the entire internet, with a Terms of Use to match the manchild userbase. Only a matter of time before that caught up to the higher-ups and became a problem, and that's been an issue well before this contest happened. The site isn't attracting new people anymore.
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#164 | KamikazePotato | Posted 11/3/2011 9:22:01 AM | message detail
GameSpot also pimps out their contests. GameFAQs does not. We just sort of hope people show up.
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#165 | __Smurf__ | Posted 11/3/2011 9:22:35 AM | message detail

From: LOLContests | #162
Hmmm, If this match's votals are 15% less than Rock Band 2/ Deus Ex that would put it over 40,000 overall, which is still over 50,000 in a 24 hour match, which while pretty horrible, probably still isn't any worse than 2002/post-merger 2004.


2004 had 70-80k for most the low popularity Round 1 matches, 2002 was 50-60k. It does seem at a quick glance its at least as bad as anything we've ever seen before and most probably worse.
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#166 | XIII_rocks | Posted 11/3/2011 9:22:45 AM | message detail
All-fictional character contest is the next step to keeping this thing fresh. I would expect one soon but then we expected that last year, so =/
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#167 | FateStayAlbion | Posted 11/3/2011 9:22:51 AM | message detail
Ike has already fallen 3% from the board vote. How much further does he fall?
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#168 | MarquessLaus | Posted 11/3/2011 9:23:52 AM | message detail
Hey, I'm in eight place in the battle stats. probably my first time on the leaderboard too.
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#169 | transcience | Posted 11/3/2011 9:25:04 AM | message detail
TheOneAboveAll posted...
battle contest is great. sotc owned so many people last year. that alone made it worth it.

Didn't own me. I still have that screencap of where I was the only one on the leaderboard without 0 at-risk points. Of course, I blew it a few matches later (and would have lost on Kingdom Hearts anyway even if I hadn't been stupid about Paper Mario).


I remember this. you went for the home run twice and it cost you the contest. shame!
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#170 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/3/2011 9:25:19 AM | message detail

From: XIII_rocks | #166
All-fictional character contest is the next step to keeping this thing fresh. I would expect one soon but then we expected that last year, so =/


This might wake good ol' SB up. The votals are awful, and we're currently losing one of only two joke options. I wonder if he's allowing Charizard/Blastoise pics partly because he realizes this contest needs a kick.
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#171 | __Smurf__ | Posted 11/3/2011 9:26:37 AM | message detail
Idea has nothing to do with it, Gamefaqs simply does not have the traffic anymore for reasons separate to contest design or execution. As we've seen from polls year after year about 80% of regular visitors don't care in the slightest about these contests regardless of what flavour they are. The people who care about the execution or format are probably people who'll follow and participate regardless, it's not going to boost turnout or interest.
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#172 | LOLContests | Posted 11/3/2011 9:27:32 AM | message detail

2004 had 70-80k for most the low popularity Round 1 matches, 2002 was 50-60k


2004 had no fodder vs. fodder matches past the point when the poll was lowered (everything prior to G/S/C vs. Xenogears [minus the first two matches] and Halo/Starcraft* were run normally.) The fodder vs. fodder matches, of which the current match is one did only get 50,000 or so votes in 2002.


*Maybe KH/SC too but I find it hard to believe that it couldn't have broken 100,000 under normal situations.
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#173 | transcience | Posted 11/3/2011 9:27:41 AM | message detail
there will be some crazy percentage swings with such a small vote total. PW/Gordon could be especially crazy.

I'm not sure that there's a way to tell who will benefit from this or not, but cutting the voting pool in half strikes me as a major factor in variation. we could see some outrageous results because of this. Frog/Magus might not suck!
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#174 | TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 11/3/2011 9:27:41 AM | message detail
Or it can have the exact opposite effect and be like, "Wow, I guess people don't like GameFAQs contests anymore, won't be seeing those again anytime soon!"

The Dino Crisis 3 Effect, as I say: make crappy sequel, developers think the problem is the series and not the crappy sequel itself, stop series all together
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#175 | White_Tiger | Posted 11/3/2011 9:31:23 AM | message detail
I agree this contest does really suck..its 64-matches and yet we have matches like this where our strongest character is fodder (Ike) and two characters(Poo/BK) no one even recognize

I wish this was just a normal 1vs1 24-hours 64-battle character contest instead
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#176 | __Smurf__ | Posted 11/3/2011 9:34:20 AM | message detail | (edited)
All fictional is a boring idea, it's already been done by gamespot and wasn't especially exciting there. Bear in mind we've had people on board 8 trumpeting the merits of all-female (this was literally a popular idea prior to it actually happening) and tag team brackets before and look how horrible those ideas were. I'd be pretty happy with a vanilla 64-bracket again, the whole business of 4-ways and tag team dilute the significance of a result or the interest in analysis. Even if it does artificially reduce the predictability theres nothing like the real 50/50 encounters as opposed to battles for 2nd place or tag team relationships that nobody cares about.
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#177 | FateStayAlbion | Posted 11/3/2011 9:33:05 AM | message detail
transcience posted...
there will be some crazy percentage swings with such a small vote total. PW/Gordon could be especially crazy.

I'm not sure that there's a way to tell who will benefit from this or not, but cutting the voting pool in half strikes me as a major factor in variation. we could see some outrageous results because of this. Frog/Magus might not suck!


I feel people got lucky with the draw Hitler got. Imagine if he got faced against a weaker #2 seed like Tidus/Jecht with these lower votals. Rallying could have done some serious damage with how low these vote totals are now.
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#178 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/3/2011 9:33:46 AM | message detail
I dunno about getting rid of contests in general, but I can see them scrapping the idea of prize money soon. They already decreased the pool for the first time I ever, and I assume that had something to do with the plummeting site traffic.
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#179 | LOLContests | Posted 11/3/2011 9:39:02 AM | message detail
All fictional is a boring idea, it's already been done by gamespot and wasn't especially exciting there

All fictional means that the contest is only characters that did not originate in video games, which is not what Gamespot did. At least, that's what all-fictional originally meant years ago when it was first proposed, before people started talking about mixing VG and non-VG characters which would never work if only because of seeding.

And no one ever wanted tag teams, or a bracket that was split in half by gender.
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#180 | Ultimaphazon | Posted 11/3/2011 9:43:47 AM | message detail
I'm curious because of my Oracle. What do you guys think:
do the kiddies like Ike, or do they think that s*** jokes are funny?
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#181 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/3/2011 9:44:21 AM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #178
I dunno about getting rid of contests in general, but I can see them scrapping the idea of prize money soon.


If they get rid of prize money, then that means Board 8 can help make the bracket!

Also, what crappy vote totals. Yikes.

From: UltimaterializerX | #163
Two, Gamespot has better contest ideas than we do. The execution sucks, but the ideas themselves are good.


Sidekicks Contest was not a good idea. We did a Villain Contest 5 years before they did, and we already showed that it was a bad idea. Heroes contest was a good idea, but I wouldn't equate a 33% success rate with "GameSpot has better contest ideas than we do." Especially since they're only going further down the totem pole with each contest, so next contest will probably be something along the lines of "Best Female Character" or something. Not sure why you think that's such a great idea.

Also, once we hit 24 hour matches, we'll basically be back at "First half of SC2K2 vote totals." As it stands right now, we're merely at "Max Payne vs. Dirk the Daring" vote totals.
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#182 | __Smurf__ | Posted 11/3/2011 9:45:20 AM | message detail

From: LOLContests | #179
All fictional is a boring idea, it's already been done by gamespot and wasn't especially exciting there

All fictional means that the contest is only characters that did not originate in video games, which is not what Gamespot did. At least, that's what all-fictional originally meant years ago when it was first proposed, before people started talking about mixing VG and non-VG characters which would never work if only because of seeding.

And no one ever wanted tag teams, or a bracket that was split in half by gender.


oh they most certainly did, that all female abomination was the brainchild of board 8 and brought to life by popular demand. As was the "removing Clinkeroth" idea and Tag teams (never implemented in Cjays time). I at least assume they were, they were popular ideas bandied round at the time on the boards and assume Cjay took them on board rather than it just being pure coincidence.
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#183 | Greyfeld | Posted 11/3/2011 9:48:31 AM | message detail
I wasn't here for it, so excuse my ignorance, but what was so bad about all-female contests and villain contests?
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#184 | TheOneAboveAll | Posted 11/3/2011 9:49:33 AM | message detail
Transience:
Like I said, I felt really stupid fora few days because I thought I had blown a contest. Then KHI beat KHII anyway and I realized it wouldn't have mattered. No one saw KHI getting the ASV over KHII like that.
#185 | LOLContests | Posted 11/3/2011 9:51:52 AM | message detail | (edited)
oh they most certainly did, that all female abomination was the brainchild of board 8 and brought to life by popular demand

People proposed a Female Contest as a side event, not as part of the normal contest, and the Female Contest would not have been that bad had there been more popular entrants (Saria, Cammy, some FF gals to name a few that were snubbed)/better bracket making (No Yuna/Rikku or Tifa/Aeris?)
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#186 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/3/2011 9:50:47 AM | message detail

From: TheOneAboveAll | #184
Then KHI beat KHII anyway and I realized it wouldn't have mattered. No one saw KHI getting the ASV over KHII like that.


Flip that, amigo!
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#187 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/3/2011 9:51:45 AM | message detail

From: Greyfeld | #183
I wasn't here for it, so excuse my ignorance, but what was so bad about all-female contests and villain contests?


The villains contest was today's poll 31 days in a row with only like 2 interesting matches.

Female half of that one bracket was the same thing.
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#188 | transcience | Posted 11/3/2011 9:52:08 AM | message detail
just look at the matches. it speaks for itself.

this website's text-only design is ancient by Internet standards. we're probably only a couple of years away from people looking at GameFAQs like we look at old geocities pages.
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#189 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/3/2011 9:53:27 AM | message detail
Here's how boring the contest is so far: I managed to squeeze in two hours of arguing for a text-based forum game and wrote a 13 page paper, all this morning, and I haven't missed jack.
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#190 | LordGaluf | Posted 11/3/2011 9:55:57 AM | message detail
Conker almost got a cut this update.
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#191 | Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 11/3/2011 9:58:27 AM | message detail
Man, thank god I pulled back on taking Conker in this match.

I think the thing I'm most looking forward to after today is the inevitable "Turd of the round" jokes.
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#192 | __Smurf__ | Posted 11/3/2011 10:01:36 AM | message detail
hmm interesting, Conker.
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#193 | MarioSuperstar | Posted 11/3/2011 10:02:01 AM | message detail
For the first time since 2005, I think I finally got a second match right.
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#194 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/3/2011 10:03:33 AM | message detail
I remember how much I used GameFAQs 5+ years ago. Now, every big game and series has a dedicated Wikia page that seems to disseminate information faster than our FAQ writers. Other sites have more aesthetically pleasing walthroughs with pictures, videos, and diagrams. I think the last time GameFAQs was my only viable option was like three years ago, and that was for Ever17, a niche visual novel.

http://www.zeldadungeon.net/Zelda01-the-legend-of-zelda-walkthrough-01.php

I mean, GameFAQs text or that. There's just no comparison.
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#195 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/3/2011 10:03:51 AM | message detail
Yesterday's chart:

Time | Mowser | EButt | Votes
0:05 | 85.63% | 14.37% | 898
1:00 | 86.33% | 13.67% | 6042
2:00 | 86.11% | 13.89% | 3536
3:00 | 84.49% | 15.51% | 2631
4:00 | 84.62% | 15.38% | 1873
5:00 | 84.67% | 15.33% | 1618
6:00 | 82.72% | 17.28% | 1580
7:00 | 85.18% | 14.82% | 1909
8:00 | 85.62% | 14.38% | 2274
9:00 | 84.20% | 15.80% | 2418
10:00 | 84.56% | 15.44% | 2642
11:00 | 87.19% | 12.81% | 2725
12:00 | 85.37% | 14.63% | 2557

Turn away your eyes if you don't want to see these bad hourly vote totals. Mario/Bowser starts strong and finishes strong, while Jim/Queen's best hour was right in the middle during the hour with the worst vote totals.
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#196 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/3/2011 10:04:58 AM | message detail
Oh hey, I used that site when I played Majora's Mask!
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#197 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/3/2011 10:05:38 AM | message detail
Heh, the updater site is down right now, so I'm actually manually tracking updates again.
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#198 | LordGaluf | Posted 11/3/2011 10:05:58 AM | message detail
Agreed. Gamefaqs is a dying site for exactly this reason. Every thing about it is obsoleted.
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#199 | The Mana Sword | Posted 11/3/2011 10:05:59 AM | message detail
I still use GameFAQs any time I need to look something up!
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#200 | LordGaluf | Posted 11/3/2011 10:06:53 AM | message detail
That was at Yo
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