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#51 | ffmasterjose | Posted 11/2/2011 10:29:03 PM | message detail
Ok wow I thought the contest wasn't going to start for like a week after bracket entries were closed. Damn.
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#52 | pjbasis | Posted 11/2/2011 10:31:20 PM | message detail
I see your point.
#53 | creativename | Posted 11/2/2011 11:04:02 PM | message detail

From: -LusterSoldier- | #043
So, I see that creativename got the updater working. Here the vote totals for the first 50 minutes of the match so they can be added to the updater:


Thank you. Odd..you post wasn't present when I posted, and the timestamp is later as well.

Is this because the timestamp displayed is based on the edit?
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#54 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 11/2/2011 11:17:13 PM | message detail
Is this because the timestamp displayed is based on the edit?

Yes, the timestamp on a post is the time of the last edit.
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#55 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/2/2011 11:17:45 PM | message detail
Took two hours to break 10,000 votes.
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#56 | creativename | Posted 11/2/2011 11:20:37 PM | message detail

From: Team Rocket Elite | #054
Is this because the timestamp displayed is based on the edit?

Yes, the timestamp on a post is the time of the last edit.


Thanks. Any way to see the original timestamp?
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#57 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/2/2011 11:21:38 PM | message detail
If you click Message Detail on the post, you can see the edited post and the original post, which contains the timestamp.
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#58 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/3/2011 12:09:16 AM | message detail
I think this is on pace for around 33,000 votes. If that's what freakin' Mario draws, we will definitely have matches in the 20ks. Zidane/Meat Boy is a standout there.
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#59 | AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 11/3/2011 12:19:16 AM | message detail
#60 | IngmarBirdman | Posted 11/3/2011 12:23:17 AM | message detail
Wow, so switch up the format a little and now people start breaking 80% again?
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#61 | AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 11/3/2011 12:24:00 AM | message detail
I want Vyse and Laharl back.

If we drop votals to 25 total voters, maybe Laharl wins that match.
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#62 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 11/3/2011 12:38:07 AM | message detail
Looks like I underestimated Mario/Bowser a little, even if they'll fall from here.
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#63 | AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 11/3/2011 12:49:54 AM | message detail
Why do I have Dante/Vergil beating Sora/Riku.

I must have hit something wrong.

"oops".
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#64 | Ultimaphazon | Posted 11/3/2011 12:53:29 AM | message detail
*changes all oracle pick because it's no longer anti-blowoutFAQs*
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#65 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/3/2011 12:56:08 AM | message detail
I still expect Link and Cloud's teams to get anti-voted. I wouldn't peg Cloud/Seph at 85% on this fodder.
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#66 | IngmarBirdman | Posted 11/3/2011 1:09:42 AM | message detail
Earthworm Jim must be about Sandal, Ellis fodder level. I'm still not putting Link / Ganon at 85% on Arthas / Illidan, nor Cloud / Seph against Lloyd / Kratos.

Samus, on the other hand...
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#67 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/3/2011 1:23:18 AM | message detail
I think this is just the format changing the way people vote. It's the first time we've seen it, so it wouldn't make too much sense for people to groan "uuggghh, the Mario/Bowser rivalry AGAIN!" Plus, I don't mean to knock em, but singular characters are pretty much the lowest common denominator as far as voting options go. There's just not too much to think about, and they are easier to anti-vote. As you give voters more to digest, it becomes harder to blindly anti-vote something without feeling like a putz. I believe it's easier to anti-vote Cloud against Ridley than it would be to anti-vote FFVII against the original Metroid.
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#68 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 11/3/2011 1:49:24 AM | message detail
IngmarBirdman posted...
Earthworm Jim must be about Sandal, Ellis fodder level. I'm still not putting Link / Ganon at 85% on Arthas / Illidan, nor Cloud / Seph against Lloyd / Kratos.

Samus, on the other hand...


Well, his one contest performance prior to this was 17% on Mega Man in 2004, so this isn't exactly unexpected.
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#69 | red sox 777 | Posted 11/3/2011 2:40:57 AM | message detail
EWJ was in a contest before? I'd have predicted Mario over 80% if I'd seen that MM had done it back in 2004.........oh well, that's what I get for not doing research.
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#70 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/3/2011 3:19:37 AM | message detail
Message From GameFAQs on 11/03/2011

It's half the size and half the contest prizes of the last one, so it's not surprising it's only half as popular.


Makes sense!

Also Allen got in touch with me and apologized about the banner thing, he forgot to tell me he only plans on using Zen's stuff for round 1. Thanks for getting me all mad about nothing >_>

And yeah glad I slept through half of this garbage, my god.
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#71 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 11/3/2011 3:22:10 AM | message detail
Just think, a few more votes and we could have had Phoenix Wright and Miles Edgeworth vs. Earthworm Jim and Queen Slug-for-a-Butt.

But uhh yeah, anyone who bet on those who got in through the first vote-in match is probably not in good shape.
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#72 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 11/3/2011 4:20:52 AM | message detail
This sure is a contest.

At least, I think it's a contest. Is it a contest? I can't really tell.
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#73 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 11/3/2011 4:34:11 AM | message detail
So...what's the 12-hour match with the lowest votals ever, because this match might shatter the record.
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#74 | AppreciateTrees | Posted 11/3/2011 4:41:12 AM | message detail
Looking forward to Conker/Poo vs Ike/Black Knight. A lot.
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#75 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 11/3/2011 4:45:13 AM | message detail
#76 | Xcarvenger | Posted 11/3/2011 4:46:09 AM | message detail
Valkyria Chronicles vs Disgaea had only 31,260 votes.
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#77 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 11/3/2011 4:47:38 AM | message detail
Alright, so at least this contest can say that it didn't manage to set a futility record with a Mario match.
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#78 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 11/3/2011 4:53:31 AM | message detail
Another dumb thing worth keeping track of is that Jim/Slug are almost under 4% in Montana and doing worse than The Oregon Trail did in the UK despite being in a 4-way match. Come on kiddies, keep Jim under 4.32%!
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#79 | AppreciateTrees | Posted 11/3/2011 5:05:58 AM | message detail
Yeah, Ike's gonna wreck ****.

Haha literally.

But I hope not. I have Conker/Poo winning O_o
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#80 | HaRRicH | Posted 11/3/2011 5:11:08 AM | message detail
I've stuck with Conker/Poo. It's not a pick I'm confident in thanks to FE doing well enough last year, but Ike with less consideration to SSBB and Conker with a "classic" villain/joke (instead of his main one from CBFD, like the panther-king) is enough for me to gamble on it.
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#81 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/3/2011 5:29:31 AM | message detail
I'd be shocked if Conker wins. I don't even get where all the hype for that upset came from.
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#82 | __Smurf__ | Posted 11/3/2011 5:34:08 AM | message detail
Logic to me dictates a separation of Ike from Brawl which black knight will bring will narrow the gap. If we're speaking purely on Bad Fur day versus Path of Radiance I know which one I'd take. The whole joke factor of Poo is a bit overblown, Ike is favourite but its a 55/45 game in my view. Its an attractive upset pick, if you want to win the contest you've gotta go for one or two of these; a couple of them always pay off.
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#83 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 11/3/2011 5:34:17 AM | message detail
It can't be said enough that jokes have to be from things people care about in order for them to get votes. Weighted Companion Cube, L-Block, and Missingno all have something in common that separates them from the CATS' of the contests, and it's not that they're any funnier.

Hint: It's why ? Block beat both Cube and L-Block easily after the 2007 contest.
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#84 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 11/3/2011 5:38:35 AM | message detail | (edited)
In Montana news, EWJ might finish below 3% there if his trends keep up (as pathetic as votals there are).
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#85 | Haguile | Posted 11/3/2011 6:33:04 AM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 11/3/2011 8:29:31 AM | #081
I'd be shocked if Conker wins. I don't even get where all the hype for that upset came from.


It's not really hype for the upset. It's just that people want to pick poo so they can say they made a crappy pick once it loses. At least that's my reason for picking it, since I can't picture it getting 40% much less winning it.
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#86 | __Smurf__ | Posted 11/3/2011 6:34:56 AM | message detail
The sucky thing is Bad fur day > PoR is not exactly a massively unrealistic pick yet if Conker does win this I'm everybody will credit it to Poo joke votes.
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#87 | charmander6000 | Posted 11/3/2011 6:38:04 AM | message detail
I would take PoR without too much trouble. 36% on PD sounds decent until you remember CoD4 getting 30% on Melee.
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#88 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/3/2011 6:41:50 AM | message detail

From: Haguile | #085
It's not really hype for the upset. It's just that people want to pick poo so they can say they made a crappy pick once it loses. At least that's my reason for picking it, since I can't picture it getting 40% much less winning it.


Nice.
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#89 | charmander6000 | Posted 11/3/2011 6:59:51 AM | message detail
Match II: (4) Conker/The Great Mighty Poo vs. (5) Ike/Black Knight

Previous Contest

Conker – 2005
23.98% against Mega Man

The Great Mighty Poo – N/A
N/A

Ike – 2010
62.49% against Prinny
52.56% against Zidane Tribal
25.90% against Mario

Black Knight – N/A
N/A

Analysis

One thing that will be common in this contest is the reunion of old characters and the addition of characters that will likely never return. Conker was not only able to return after a six year break, but he was able to return in the top half of the bracket despite not having a new game since the last time we saw him. Meanwhile the Black Knight despite being well liked among Fire Emblem fans will probably never see another contest, even if board 8 tried to rally him.

This match surprisingly has gotten some talk though a quick look at the previous results shows Ike with the advantage over Conker. He was able to get a higher percent on Mario despite getting SFF compare to Conker against Mega Man and it’s likely that the last six years were not kind towards Conker. Of course the main talk is about how Conker’s partner is named Poo which should give it some joke votes. While joke votes should be expected the gap between Ike and Conker is just too large to bridge.

There is also the argument that due to Ike having a large portion of fans coming from Brawl most of them won’t know the rivalry between Ike and the Black Knight. While true I doubt many Brawl fans have played Conker’s Bad Fur Day in order for them to vote them of their favourite character then you also have to take into account that Conker and The Great Mighty Poo aren’t the best of rivalries and are likely to lose out to voters that have played Path of Radiance or Radiant Dawn.

Ike should go on for an easy win. I feel that I’m being conservative with my prediction because Conker was already heading towards a downward spiral in 2005, but Poo should be able to pick up some votes. It’ll be interesting to see if Conker/Poo can keep up with Ike at the beginning since he was among the joke entrants rallied by other sites.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Ike/Black Knight > Conker/The Great Mighty Poo

charmander6000’s Prediction: Ike/Black Knight wins, 63.13% - 36.87%
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#90 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/3/2011 7:42:21 AM | message detail
Xcarvenger | Posted 11/3/2011 7:46:09 AM | message detail | quote
Valkyria Chronicles vs Disgaea had only 31,260 votes.


And this is the current day match record for worst vote totals:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4112
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#91 | TheOneAboveAll | Posted 11/3/2011 7:45:11 AM | message detail
I think Guybrush/Gilgamesh will shatter the record for worst day match votals.
#92 | The Mana Sword | Posted 11/3/2011 7:46:48 AM | message detail
More like best votals.
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#93 | TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 11/3/2011 7:49:19 AM | message detail
Well, there's one good thing about Anti-BlowoutFAQs being over. We might get to see our first 90% in a long time. Add that to the fact that the Noble Niner in position to pull off such a performance is going to be chained through multiple levels of SFF and should end up with a so-so unadjusted X-Stat position, and Tanner's vindication could be upon us.
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#94 | charmander6000 | Posted 11/3/2011 7:58:11 AM | message detail
I don't think anti-blowoutFAQs ever occured. In the last contest characters actually had to defeat half decent opponents just to reach the contest thus they must have had some strength. It's different here because the losers in the vote-ins were already terrible.

Give Eddie Rigg to someone other than Ratchet and he would've been crushed pretty badly
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#95 | Haste_2 | Posted 11/3/2011 8:02:30 AM | message detail
For a 12-hour match, breaking 85% is pretty insane. Mario/Bowser is looking Link-esque. I can't wait to see what Cloud/Sephiroth and Link/Ganondorf later on.
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#96 | TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 11/3/2011 8:26:05 AM | message detail
Matches where SmartVotersFAQs could come into play:

Round 1:

Sub-Zero/Scorpion vs. Leon Kennedy/Ada Wong (Leon's probably the strongest character of the four, and Ada is strong enough to not drag him down (even though she probably loses 1v1 against either of the ninjas), but Subby/Scorp is by far the better rivalry)
Fox/Wolf vs. Yuna/Seymour (debatable; Fox-Yuna 1v1 would be pretty close, so even without the fact that it's a better rivalry, Wolf's advantage over Seymour should give this to the Star Fox duo)
Phoenix/Edgeworth vs. Gordon/Breen? (I don't know Half-Life well enough to know if this is the case or not, but from what I've been hearing, Breen could drag Gordon down here.)

Round 2:

Red/Blue vs. Luigi/Waluigi (Obviously Luigi's the strongest character here, but Waluigi's lack of appearances in mainline Mario games could hurt here.)
Chell/GLaDOS vs. Frog/Magus (Maybe. Portal should've boosted since the last character battle due to Portal 2, while CT still has no reason to do anything but get weaker, but Frog/Magus is one of the better rivalries here. Still, Chell/GLaDOS is a legit rivalry, so I don't know what to think)

Round 3:

Luigi/Waluigi, if they make it that far, vs. Ryu/Ken or Fox/Wolf (Luigi vs. Ryu straight-up would be debatable, though I'd take Luigi, and it's arguable that even without the rivalry factor, Waluigi's weakness would push the duo behind Ryu/Ken anyway. But Luigi should normally be able to SFF Fox; I'm not so sure if he'd do so here because Waluigi's short on characterization and Fox/Wolf is one of Nintendo's better rivalries imo.)
Samus/Ridley vs. Tidus/Jecht or Big Boss/The Boss (Okay, no, Samus still wins this one easily. Hell, Samus/Ridley is getting closer to a legit rivalry, anyway.)
Alucard/Dracula vs. Frog/Magus or Chell/GLaDOS (But in opposite directions. In the case of Frog/Magus, it's Alucard being the stronger character but the weaker rivalry. In the case of Chell/GLaDOS...well, actually, Alucard's probably the stronger character there, too, even with his game aging, so this shouldn't be an issue since he's the stronger rivalry...I think.)

Round 4:

Red/Blue, Ryu/Ken, or Fox/Wolf vs. Samus/Ridley (nope, Samus still dominates here.)

That's probably the last one; in all other cases, the stronger rivalry is also the stronger pair outright.
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#97 | LOLContests | Posted 11/3/2011 8:42:19 AM | message detail | (edited)
Weighted Companion Cube, L-Block, and Missingno all have something in common that separates them from the CATS' of the contests, and it's not that they're any funnier.

The difference is that everyone got the joke for those three, which they will with Poo as well. That's why CATS did a lot better when he got a recognizable picture.

Edit: Anti-blowout FAQS never made sense as a theory. As has been said, the lower seeds were just more popular due to the vote ins. It's not like there were any matches besides Vincent/Guybrush where the character was supposed to break 80% and they didn't.
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#98 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/3/2011 8:50:24 AM | message detail

From: TsunamiXXVIII | #096
Matches where SmartVotersFAQs could come into play


Well the rest of that post certainly isn't worth reading, since our voters aren't smart.
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#99 | Xcarvenger | Posted 11/3/2011 8:55:49 AM | message detail
bah can't decide on my oracle!

am I dreaming or did someone just say that Poo was a rallied character from outside GF?
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#100 | Master Moltar | Posted 11/3/2011 9:00:10 AM | message detail
Conker vs. The Great Mighty Poo 0%

0
Ike vs. Black Knight 100%

6
TOTAL VOTES 6
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