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#151 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/31/2011 8:54:10 AM | message detail | (edited)
Well, this is like a 63/37 now, even wider a gap than last time. The big deal about this is that Skyward Sword may be the first big Zelda game since LttP that isn't the strongest game in its release year (heck, the first big one ever if you don't count Zelda II). I wonder how much the WiiMotion+ requirement is hurting it. It and Majora are the only two console Zeldas that need an extra peripheral to play. There are probably tons of early Wii owners who don't have WM+ and don't feel like spending $70 on the bundle.
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#152 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/31/2011 9:01:19 AM | message detail
Actually, check out the release year of every major console Zelda (North America). Zelda games are practically unchallenged in their release year strength.

1987 - The Legend of Zelda (no competition)
1988 - Zelda II: The Adventure of Link (probably the second strongest game behind Mario 2)
1992 - Link to the Past (no competition)
1998 - Ocarina of Time (no competition)
2000 - Majora's Mask (no competition)
2003 - Wind Waker (no competition)
2006 - Twilight Princess (no competition)
2011 - Skyward Sword (SKYRIM)
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#153 | transcience | Posted 10/31/2011 9:04:21 AM | message detail
fluke stat. Zelda games always come out in off years.

FF9 destroyed MM back in 2000. we'll see in five years if Skyrim can keep up.
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#154 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 10/31/2011 9:04:52 AM | message detail
Oh yeah, forgot about the Wii Motion+ thing.

Silly thing is that I already own two WM+s due to my younger brother buying Wii Sports Resort and Red Steel 2.
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#155 | ffmasterjose | Posted 10/31/2011 9:06:24 AM | message detail
Yeah the Southwest Division is really weird, but I love how it can go so many ways. If only the rest were like that :(
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#156 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/31/2011 9:11:00 AM | message detail
FLUKE STAT?! Wind Waker has a great shot at beating MGS3, RE4, and KHII, which would make it the strongest game between its release date and TP's. LttP beats everything released before OoT apart from FFVII and maaaaybe Mario 64. Twilight Princess is the second strongest game since its release date, losing out only to Brawl.
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#157 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/31/2011 9:17:20 AM | message detail

From: Dilated Chemist | #133
Dante over Sora AND Squall.


Shhhhh, that's the big upset Board 8 is going to egg itself over. Almost no one is picking it.
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#158 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/31/2011 9:20:27 AM | message detail
It's too risky an upset. Dante needs to beat a game Sora/Riku team just to reach Squall. Squall is also a huge favorite if he's facing the Sora/Riku team. There's just too much working against Dante/Vergil, not the least of which being the terrible weakness of their games.
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#159 | transcience | Posted 10/31/2011 9:23:25 AM | message detail
I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying that FFX-2 and FF12 were the toughest competition in the two most recent Zelda years. those are weak years.
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#160 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/31/2011 9:28:48 AM | message detail
Well Dante won't beat Squall, I misread. He's going to stomp Sora though, and it won't even be close.
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#161 | SuperAngelo128 | Posted 10/31/2011 9:30:24 AM | message detail
I've had Dante over Sora since the beginning

recently changed him to losing to Squall though since that may be a bit much for him
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#162 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/31/2011 9:30:39 AM | message detail
Yeah, that one is very tough and is one of the few matches I may still change up.
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#163 | transcience | Posted 10/31/2011 9:48:02 AM | message detail
picking Dante is a recipe for losing points. don't do it!
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#164 | KamikazePotato | Posted 10/31/2011 9:49:30 AM | message detail
Dante beats Sora 1 v 1, I imagine. Riku beats Vergil.

Problem is that even though Dante/Vergil is a much better rivalry than Sora/Riku, Sora/Riku is going to get boosted a lot more because people have actually played KH1/2.
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#165 | ffmasterjose | Posted 10/31/2011 10:00:29 AM | message detail
My money's on Team DARKNESS, then they get crushed by the ROMANTIC TEAM
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#166 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/31/2011 10:01:28 AM | message detail
I remember playing through Kingdom Hearts. Right off the bat, it was the corniest thing ever, but as soon as Riku challenged me to a race to see who shares the paupu fruit with Kairi, I was all IT'S ON. Sora/Riku is awesome.
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#167 | ffmasterjose | Posted 10/31/2011 10:27:07 AM | message detail
Going over my bracket again, Im still saddened by Crono getting shafted. Poor guy.
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#168 | ZFS | Posted 10/31/2011 10:40:09 AM | message detail
Dante/Vergil destroy Sora/Riku in terms of 'rivalries,' but I'd bank on GameFAQs siding with the kidz.
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#169 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/31/2011 10:56:17 AM | message detail
POTENTIAL DMC SPOILERS MAYBE NOT REALLY

Do you guys think Vergil will be hurt by a Nelo Angelo pic? I'm wondering if it may even help him, going by the assumption that the original DMC is the strongest. It would also contrast much more with Dante's pic and would help those two stand out a bit more.
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#170 | KamikazePotato | Posted 10/31/2011 10:58:56 AM | message detail | (edited)
No. Nelo Angelo isn't recognizable, Dante/Vergil looking similar plays up the rivalry aspect more than 'standing out' will, and most importantly of all, no one cares about Nelo Angelo while Vergil is the only DMC character other than Dante to get into a contest and was popular enough to get into UMVC3.

Edit: And no offense yo, but it sounds like exactly the sort of idea someone who's only played DMC1 would make!

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#171 | The Mana Sword | Posted 10/31/2011 10:58:22 AM | message detail
Nelo Angelo pic sounds like a terrible idea.
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#172 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/31/2011 11:00:54 AM | message detail
As a fan of the original, I care about Nelo Angelo. His boss fights were awesome, and I think anyone who stuck around long enough for DMC3 understands that the two characters are one and the same. Using a Nelo pic might help capitalize on those people who played the first but didn't stick around.
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#173 | KamikazePotato | Posted 10/31/2011 11:02:54 AM | message detail
Vergil completely eclipses Nelo Angelo in every way (character, popularity, boss battles). You might as well suggest that we get rid of all human Ganondorf pictures and only use pigdorf.
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#174 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 10/31/2011 11:03:54 AM | message detail
The possibility of the pic not being from DMC3 is just more reason to go with Sora/Riku, IMO.
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#175 | The Mana Sword | Posted 10/31/2011 11:05:09 AM | message detail
Also DMC1 sucks.
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#176 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/31/2011 11:05:21 AM | message detail
I was correct when I suggested that DMC1 might be the strongest game in the series. Doesn't seem like that big of a stretch to suggest that a DMC1 picture might not hurt Vergil.

http://images.wikia.com/devilmaycry/images/1/17/Nelo_Angelo.jpg

Nelo doesn't seem to have much official art, but that picture looks dope.
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#177 | KamikazePotato | Posted 10/31/2011 11:07:43 AM | message detail
DMC1 isn't anywhere near stronger than DMC3 to justify putting Nelo Angelo in a pic. I don't think you get that people really like Vergil. Dante vs. Vergil is the driving point behind DMC3. Nelo Angelo is just a series of cool boss fights.
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#178 | FateStayAlbion | Posted 10/31/2011 11:09:17 AM | message detail
Maybe they can do it for round 1 since Dante doesn't have a chance of losing... but keep that thing away from the R2 match.
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#179 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/31/2011 11:15:24 AM | message detail
Dante > Sora is your Ulti Lead Pipe Lock this contest. I got a couple other upsets that I'm really confident in, too, but I won't mention those.

But like, people hate Kingdom Hearts now and Sora was actually OVERrated in the stats last year because of the 1 seed and Charizard getting bandwagoned so hard. That 53-47 Sora win the stats predict is total bull.
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#180 | ZFS | Posted 10/31/2011 11:23:57 AM | message detail
Nelo Angelo is a good way to hurt Dante/Vergil.
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#181 | ZFS | Posted 10/31/2011 11:25:13 AM | message detail
PartOfYourWorld posted...
I was correct when I suggested that DMC1 might be the strongest game in the series. Doesn't seem like that big of a stretch to suggest that a DMC1 picture might not hurt Vergil.

http://images.wikia.com/devilmaycry/images/1/17/Nelo_Angelo.jpg

Nelo doesn't seem to have much official art, but that picture looks dope.


This is what I came up with and submitted -- http://i.imgur.com/rRJ27.jpg
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#182 | Lopen | Posted 10/31/2011 12:26:22 PM | message detail
That picture is perfect. Hoping that one gets picked.
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#183 | red sox 777 | Posted 10/31/2011 12:38:14 PM | message detail
Whoa, I just realized the contest starts tomorrow. And at 9 PM too now that I'm on the West Coast, so that's only 32 hours away. I've got some catching up to do with the Guru, Oracle, Spread Betting, BOP, etc. and will probably need to make some last minute changes to my bracket.
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#184 | red sox 777 | Posted 10/31/2011 12:43:17 PM | message detail
I'm liking this Skyrim domination of Zelda. Cloud/Sephiroth victory, here we come. First time in 6 years!
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#185 | FateStayAlbion | Posted 10/31/2011 1:06:02 PM | message detail
red sox 777 posted...
I've got some catching up to do with the Guru

Has the Guru opened yet? I've been looking around for it.
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#186 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/31/2011 1:41:14 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3509

Really not getting the FF7 > Zelda hype this year. The MGS duo will beat Cloud before Cloud ever beats Link again.
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#187 | KamikazePotato | Posted 10/31/2011 1:44:51 PM | message detail
Because people want to believe that this contest won't have a soul-crushingly predictable winner.

And there are some arguments to be made, but it's mostly that.
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#188 | ZFS | Posted 10/31/2011 1:45:55 PM | message detail
I like how Zelda has won so much that Cloud/Sephiroth is considered an improvement!
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#189 | LOLContests | Posted 10/31/2011 1:49:51 PM | message detail
Sora Vs. Dante would be very close 1v1, and Dante might win, but Riku would probably beat Vergil 60/40.
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#190 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/31/2011 1:59:35 PM | message detail
Zelda Contest Victories Where Zelda was a Predictable Winner
CB 2005 (Link wasn't even in the bracket)
CB 2006 (Link wasn't even in the bracket)
CB 2008 (worst contest ever, right guys)
CB 2010 (never mind, this is the worst contest ever)

Zelda Contest Victories Where Zelda was NOT a Predictable Winner
CB 2002
CB 2004 (50/50 toss-up between Link and Cloud)
Series 2006 (Final Fantasy was a big favorite)
BGE 2009 (Final Fantasy VII was a big favorite)
GotD 2010 (at least four other games were bigger favorites)

A Rivalry Rumble win would only even the score for Zelda at 5-5, and that's being generous considering Link was barely in the 2005 and 2006 contests.
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#191 | foxhead84 | Posted 10/31/2011 2:44:21 PM | message detail
so when can we expect a Guru topic?
Tonight?
#192 | GrapefruitKing | Posted 10/31/2011 2:49:03 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #183
Whoa, I just realized the contest starts tomorrow.


No... it starts on Wednesday night
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#193 | FateStayAlbion | Posted 10/31/2011 2:57:44 PM | message detail | (edited)
GrapefruitKing posted...
From: red sox 777 | #183
Whoa, I just realized the contest starts tomorrow.
No... it starts on Wednesday night


It starts at midnight when it turns November 2. Since Red Sox is West Coast it would be 9 PM on Nov 1 that it starts for him.
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#194 | transience | Posted 10/31/2011 3:03:08 PM | message detail
contest is starting already?

I should look at my bracket. don't even know what I picked!
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#195 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 10/31/2011 3:05:02 PM | message detail | (edited)
So uh....unless Skyrim is a complete bomb or the Wii all of a sudden gets like 8 A+++ releases so people care about it, there's no way in hell it doesn't dominate GOtY, right?
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#196 | The_Djoker | Posted 10/31/2011 3:12:05 PM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #179
Dante > Sora is your Ulti Lead Pipe Lock this contest. I got a couple other upsets that I'm really confident in, too, but I won't mention those.

But like, people hate Kingdom Hearts now and Sora was actually OVERrated in the stats last year because of the 1 seed and Charizard getting bandwagoned so hard. That 53-47 Sora win the stats predict is total bull.


MGS? the same franchise that lost to SOTC....tWICE?
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#197 | FateStayAlbion | Posted 10/31/2011 3:15:47 PM | message detail
WarThaNemesis2 posted...
So uh....unless Skyrim is a complete bomb or the Wii all of a sudden gets like 8 A+++ releases so people care about it, there's no way in hell it doesn't dominate GOtY, right?

Unless something crazy happens, I don't see anything beating Skyrim. I don't buy Portal 2 being much stronger than Skyward Sword if its even that strong to begin with, and thats the only other real contender I see.

Obviously these are just hype polls, but these polls typically don't favor WRPGs as much as they favor the big name franchises like Zelda and Final Fantasy... so seeing a WRPG do so well makes me think its legit and not just hype for the series in general.
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#198 | GrapefruitKing | Posted 10/31/2011 3:16:11 PM | message detail
huh, I thought we still had all of Wednesday to fill out the bracket
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#199 | The_Djoker | Posted 10/31/2011 3:21:51 PM | message detail

From: WarThaNemesis2 | #195
So uh....unless Skyrim is a complete bomb or the Wii all of a sudden gets like 8 A+++ releases so people care about it, there's no way in hell it doesn't dominate GOtY, right?


Depends how good Zelda is.

It will be between Skyrim/Zelda. Lets not forget if you did a Series poll ES Vs. Zelda, Zelda would decimate Elder Scrolls. There are definitely more Zelda fans on this site..like me for example...but i'm just not feeling the SS hype. IF SS delivers then Skyrim will struggle to dominate. Zelda just doesn't get dominated on Gamefaqs. Zelda dominates Gamefaqs.
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#200 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/31/2011 3:37:51 PM | message detail
FFXIII and Mass Effect 2 had all year to be released, bomb, and flourish respectively. Skyrim and Zelda are getting released only a month or two before GotY voting. Even if Zelda is better received, it may be too late for the hype to shift (as it did for Mass Effect through word of mouth throughout 2010). And there's also the possibility that Skyrim is tremendously well received anyway.
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