GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1006
XIII_rocks posted... Nope! Is there any reason I should take this rivalry seriously when the game presumably revolves around the pokemon themselves, not the storyline? I'm assuming the high seed is a board 8 creation. Blue spends literally the entire game antagonizing you (the player, Red), is a step ahead of you the whole time and... I wasn't really interested in the actual details of the rivalry. I was more asking if anyone actually cares about it. I just can't see anyone caring about the story (but maybe I'm wrong). --- Watch me play games! http://www.livestream.com/dabu |
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Pokemon is about YOU trying to defeat OTHERS to be the best, in which your RIVAL stands as your greatest and ultimate challenge. Pokemon are really your tools for this, though of course the relationship between you and your pokemon is important to many people. |
That's
not what I really remember from my experience from playing Pokemon. I
remember I had to go to Gyms and beat leaders and stuff, but all I cared
about was obliterating things with my Blastoise. --- http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/8718/leonflowchart.png |
In
the Pokemon universe/fanbase, everyone cares about the Pokemon. A small
percentage of the fanbase cares about the humans. Expect Red/Blue to be
midcarders that will lose to Luigi/Waluigi. --- Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename |
I'm
not saying people care about Red or Blue themselves, but Red as an
avatar for yourself and Blue as an avatar for your greatest rival is
pretty important. I mean, the reason I want to watch my Venusaur wreck faces is for the person on the receiving end watching his Pokemon get destroyed. Unless you guys never played with humans before! |
I never played P2P, no, but I would care more about that than beating the characters in the game if I had. --- http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/2369/mythbattlers.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/Sensui22/1248835958206.png |
Stupid B8 making me read that as Persona 2 Portable. I was sitting there wondering what playing Persona would have to do with your enjoyment of Pokemon. |
I would probably enjoy it more than Pokemon, at least! --- http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/8718/leonflowchart.png |
While
I think the Pokemon fanbase is seriously overestimating how "legendary"
Red/Blue's rivalry is, only being midcarders should be good enough to
beat Luigi/Waluigi, who is a midcarder level rivalry at best itself. --- "Ahem! There is *sand* on my *boot*!"--Kefka Black Turtle beat me, Yesmar in the Fall 2010 Guru Contest! |
who is a midcarder level rivalry at best itself. Luigi is definitely high midcarder, and will have no problem with Red/Blue. --- Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename |
He's talking in terms of being combined with Waluigi's negative affect on Luigi. --- "Hold on a minute! That testimony stinks!" "Witness! You can't just say 'Hello' and expect us to get anywhere! I want you to testify!" |
Red is high fodder/low midcard Luigi is low elite Red/Blue could win its division Luigi/Waluigi could lose in Round 1 Different contest, different rules! --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
Luigi is definitely high midcarder, and will have no problem with Red/Blue. Well, I would assume the presence of Waluigi/not being an actual rivalry will drag him down somewhat. Moreso than Blue will. --- "Ahem! There is *sand* on my *boot*!"--Kefka Black Turtle beat me, Yesmar in the Fall 2010 Guru Contest! |
Cecil/Golbez beating Luigi/Waluigi would be so awesome. Also, I think Cecil/Golbez makes a pretty good rivalry, for spoiler reasons, and certainly much better than Terra/Kefka.... though of course we ALL love Kain and he's the true rival. =p It's too bad FF4 and FF6 are getting bad draws AGAIN. Luckily, GameFAQs never really forgets about the old games, so I guess there are still many more chances for those old games! --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
Kefka's
routinely gotten some manageable draws in these contests, and he wets
the bed nearly every time. The only really bad round 1 matchup for him
was Knuckles in 2004. --- http://www.gifsoup.com/view/593815/frasier-and-niles-dance-o.gif |
Terra/Kefka got a decent draw. They wouldn't reach round 3 anywhere else. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls BOP Topic: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60566352 |
They'd have a good shot at round 3 if they were the 4 seed in Phoenix/Edgey's division, at least. --- http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/8516/whatisdesiresig.gif |
Kefka
has been one of the more interesting characters in contest history.
Even in 2004 he made the board go crazy when he took the lead against
Knuckles for about two hours. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls BOP Topic: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60566352 |
Kefka's been one of the most overpicked characters by the board in contest history. And of course, once Board 8 finally gets off of the Kefka bandwagon (although he still had 35% picking him in the Guru), he rocks Arthas's face. --- http://i43.tinypic.com/dgwh0.gif http://www.majhost.com/gallery/atukam/OHWD/snownd.gif |
I've
been pretty lucky with the guy, the only match I got wrong with him was
Kefka/Pac-Man in 2003 and that was before I used stats (though we had
nothing on him anyways). Kefka > Arthas was one of those picks where
I just couldn't see Arthas winning that match despite everything
pointing to the opposite. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls BOP Topic: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60566352 |
LordOfDabu posted... I wasn't really interested in the actual details of the rivalry. I was more asking if anyone actually cares about it. I just can't see anyone caring about the story (but maybe I'm wrong). Well you asked if people would just care about the Pokemon and the answer is, for me, no. Not in Red/Blue anyway, nobody really gives a crap about the rival in DPP or in Black/White and certainly not the awful one in Ruby/Sapphire, but Pokemon players tend to appreciate Blue as a jerkass rival that you strive to beat. Pic might be a factor too. If Blue gets a pic that looks enough like Gary Oak (ie, not a sprite, pretty much) from the TV show he's going to get a boost. --- http://i48.tinypic.com/1045474.gif |
Just out of curiosity, how many rivalries are there in the contest where the antagonist is stronger than the protagonist? Katherine vs. Catherine, probably Bartz vs. Gilgamesh, I think Raynor vs. Kerrigan? Terra vs. Kefka, perhaps Dan vs. Sagat? Tidus vs. Jecht? Alucard vs. Dracula? Chell vs. GlaDOS, for sure Frog vs. Magus? Lloyd Irving vs. Kratos Aurion, possibly Siegfried vs. Nightmare B.J. vs. Hitler, lawl Huh, that's more than I expected. --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
List looks about right. I would guess Kratos and Jecht on the probably side and Gilgamesh and Katherine on the for sure. Oh and Nightmare for sure, and Magus for sure not. |
Kratos/Zeus as well. Kratos is kind of an underdog, especially in GoW II, when they fight. --- 2011 WWYD Champion I do things for money and games. |
Red is high fodder/low midcard Luigi is low elite Red/Blue could win its division Luigi/Waluigi could lose in Round 1 Different contest, different rules! Very, very small percentage of people will vote that way. Luigi paired with a soggy pear could beat Red/Blue in this contest. --- Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename |
I meant contest strength wise, not in-game, whoops. --- http://img.imgcake.com/leonpngpe.png http://img.imgcake.com/squalloweenpngem.png |
Siegfried and Nightmare were pretty evenly matched in SoulCalibur IV. Siegfried had Soul Calibur so that evened the odds a lot. --- ~Zen |
LeonhartFour posted... I meant contest strength wise, not in-game, whoops. Oh. That makes far more sense! (Zeus getting the greek mythology vote imo) --- http://www.mariocube.nl/upload/XIII1008171346.jpg |
XxSoulxX posted... Red is high fodder/low midcard Luigi is low elite Red/Blue could win its division Luigi/Waluigi could lose in Round 1 Different contest, different rules! Very, very small percentage of people will vote that way. Luigi paired with a soggy pear could beat Red/Blue in this contest. Sig bet? --- http://i46.tinypic.com/301k70h.gif |
I was wondering how strong Zeus would be in terms of contest strength, heh. Don't think he would be very strong though. --- http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/2369/mythbattlers.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/Sensui22/1248835958206.png |
Sig bet? You want to sig bet Red/Blue Vs. Luigi/A Soggy Pear? --- Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename |
Gilgamesh
is without a doubt stronger than Bartz. But I really do worry about
that team.... I mean, who likes Bartz? I can almost smell a
logic-defying upset, as pathetic Guybrush is (LeChuck could help with
the pic factor!). Hey, we already saw Monkey Island beat Sim City, and
chances are something nonsensical is going to happen SOMEWHERE.... Nah, I don't think that's gonna happen. It would be cool to see team Monkey Island get their second win, though! So, what do YOU guys think might be this year's Master Hand or Shadow of the Colossus? It would be fun to see what you guys can throw out! (even if you don't believe the chances are good) --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
You
know, after looking up Jecht's last year results to gauge Phoenix, he
looks a lot better than I remember. 40% on Zelda, nearly won a vote-in
poll with Sub-Zero in it. Could Tidus/Jecht vs. BB/The Boss be more
debatable than we've given it credit for? Both are story-heavy, actual
good rivalries, and the strength disparity between the groups might not
even exist. BB>Tidus~Jecht>The Boss. And if people really are
thinking in terms of games with this contest, FFX trumps MGS3 easily.
Plus, 2 seed. It's gonna have brackets. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
I like Bartz. I mean, he's nothing special, but he's fine. As far as an upset special or a Cinderella pick...Nothing really stands out. I'm sure something will surprise us due to our lack of real understanding of how this contest works, but if I had to hazard a guess... Jill/Nemesis over Kirby/Meta Knight, probably. --- "The great GF...Bahamut." "...GF? I...? Using my powers...It is you humans...I fear..." |
Jill > Kirby screams Samus > Mario to me for some reason. Kirby > Sonic is the real upset special in that division. --- http://i49.tinypic.com/2ry672r.jpg |
From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #385 There's no real reason to think this! Kirby's going to be a heavy favorite, most likely. I don't think Kirby/Meta Knight is respected enough as a rivalry to beat Sonic/Robotnik. Throw in the fact that Sonic is already the strongest character in the group, and then... --- http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/8718/leonflowchart.png |
Jill > Kirby screams Samus > Mario to me for some reason. Kirby > Sonic is the real upset special in that division. Kirby > Sonic was the upset special last year as well. Didn't work out too well then either. --- Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename |
I
think Sonic/Robotnik probably beat Kirby/MK worse than just plain
Sonic/Kirby. Sonic/Robotnik isn't as iconic as Mario/Bowser, but it's up
there. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
Jill/Nemesis
winning is one of those matches that feels oddly probable for me, as
well. It would be pretty humorous and fitting if it happened. --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
XxSoulxX posted... Sig bet? You want to sig bet Red/Blue Vs. Luigi/A Soggy Pear? Where "a soggy pear" means "Waluigi", yes. |
Jill beat Kirby the last time votals were as low as they are now, right? Or was it 2003, I don't remember. --- 90s games > 00s games |
Here's
an interesting question. Who do you think is the most overrated duo
contest-strength-wise? Red/Blue? Chell/GLaDOS? Or one of the duos that
have a set path? --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png http://i.imgur.com/FII1z.gif |
Can
anyone inform me when the contest start and the prediction phase will
end? Tried to find a string on the boards by typing in various key
words. Nada came up. --- It is better to be quotable than to be honest. |
From: junk_funk | #393 http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/rivals 3rd paragraph says the contest starts November 2nd. Predictions usually end the night before the contest starts. --- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/26leonpngat.png http://img.imgcake.com/nio/daigohadoupnguj.png |
From: red sox 777 | #391 Jill/Kirby was 2002. From: WarThaNemesis2 | #392 In terms of how much people think the rivalry will boost their strength? Depending on who you ask, Red/Blue, but that's a pretty small minority saying it. Overall, possibly Big Boss/The Boss. My heart is trying to convince my mind that Tidus/Jecht winning that match isn't a terrible pick, and I'm trying not to give in. --- http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/2369/mythbattlers.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/Sensui22/1248835958206.png |
Thanks Leon. Also, wtf at the month long prediction phase. --- It is better to be quotable than to be honest. |
Bacon's a big fan of long prediction periods. --- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." |
Me and like three other people have Chell/Glados even making it out of the second round. ****ing gongshow of a division. Also that was to War --- ~Acting on Impulse~ Black Turtle still didn't MAJORA'S MASK |
I've
got Chell/GLaDoS getting out of their division. It's a shame the
rivalry isn't Wheatley/GLaDoS as I'm sure that'd be stronger, but people
chronically underrate Portal power. I mean, look what Portal did last
year to ME and RE4, even without Portal 2 hype. If this were pre-Portal
2 I would understand not taking the pick, but Portal 2 made it a lot
easier to recognize both GLaDoS and Chell as characters, even for those
whose fanhood goes little further than "THE CAKE'S A LIE!!!1 LOL!" --- http://www.nbc.com/parks-and-recreation/exclusives/ron-dancing-animated.gif |
The
big reason why I'm sticking with Big Boss > Tidus here is that I
picked Tidus to R3 last contest and look where that got me. Plus last
contest did feature The Boss upsetting a 2 seed... I would've done the same with Phoenix Wright, except that I watched a YouTube LP of Half-Life 2 in Summer 2010 and...I don't think Gordon meets up with Dr. Breen AT ALL. There's probably one time in the whole game, and they don't even fight, and I don't remember Gordon Freeman actually fighting Dr. Breen at the end of the game (what I really remember is Freeman racing to the top of some citadel and shooting giant photons across a huge distance at Dr. Breen's throne room or something - this may be way off but whatever). Dr. Breen might as well be the Ridley to Freeman's Samus, in other words. For the fun of it, here's a GamesRadar list that's oddly relevant to this contest: http://www.gamesradar.com/top-7-bestest-frenemies/ Look who's #1. --- Currently Playing - StarCraft: Brood War |
