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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1006
Ratchet 2010 =/= Ratchet 2003-2004 Based on Jecht, he's projected to get 35.32% on Zelda. That's a far cry from getting tripled by Luigi and quadrupled by Dante. The PS3 games have definitely boosted Ratchet's strength. He's still not great, of course, but he's not a bottom feeder like he once was. --- "Hold on a minute! That testimony stinks!" "Witness! You can't just say 'Hello' and expect us to get anywhere! I want you to testify!" |
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I wouldn't base anything off of a match with a FF character held the day FFXIII came out. --- "Ahem! There is *sand* on my *boot*!"--Kefka Black Turtle beat me, Yesmar in the Fall 2010 Guru Contest! |
So if Gordon losses to Phoenix than can we agree that GFNW is back in buisness? --- Ngamer64: Zylo, you're making less sense every day. Black Turtle > Me |
2006 - projected 30.15% against post-KH2 Sora 2007 - 43.70% against Magus, 18.69% against Mario 2008 - 34.64% against Bowser 2010 - projected 38.10% against Zelda Only major difference is the performance against Zelda and most people blame that on FFXIII. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls BOP Topic: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60566352 |
Phoenix/Jecht
was a night match that started on FFXIII's release at midnight EST.
Consider retailers opening at 9 AM or 10 AM on average, excluding those
who get it on midnight release (of which there would probably be few),
consider those who would GO to Gamefaqs before, say, the FF Wiki to
check on character growths/skills or getting the nifty guide that comes
with some pre-orders, and you have a very, VERY small voterbase that
would be attracted to Gamefaqs with the release of FFXIII until the last
two hours of the match, at which point Jecht was comfortably winning
anyway. And, being fair, I'd take Peach > Wrighto, which makes me feel pretty justified in taking Breen. Even if it were Peach Vs Daisy, I'd take it over Wright/Edgey. --- How many points did Black Turtle win the guru by? Wow that's a lot, a lot! |
So if Gordon losses to Phoenix than can we agree that GFNW is back in buisness? Huh? He's come along way since those days and there's no indication he will revert back to pre-HL2 performance. HL2 did admirably in the games tournament and in 2010 a small victory over Peach is still decent; both of them are recognizable characters that are easily top half, despite how Freeman was overseeded and Peach underseeded. --- "Getting lucky 100% of the time... it's called PRO SKILL." -BlAcK TuRtLe |
Jecht Vs. Zelda was the match that happened on FFXIII's release day, and it was a day match. --- "Ahem! There is *sand* on my *boot*!"--Kefka Black Turtle beat me, Yesmar in the Fall 2010 Guru Contest! |
Well, now I just feel silly... --- How many points did Black Turtle win the guru by? Wow that's a lot, a lot! |
IngmarBirdman posted... So if Gordon losses to Phoenix than can we agree that GFNW is back in buisness? Huh? He's come along way since those days and there's no indication he will revert back to pre-HL2 performance. HL2 did admirably in the games tournament and in 2010 a small victory over Peach is still decent; both of them are recognizable characters that are easily top half, despite how Freeman was overseeded and Peach underseeded. Plus the fact that it was Gordon beating Phoenix which dispelled GFNW, anyway. Theres little reason to think that somehow Phoenix will be way stronger than he was back in 2006 when his games were more popular. Phoenix will probably win first 5 minutes and then never see the lead again. --- http://media.animevice.com/uploads/0/4479/467785-one_piece_we_go_super.jpg http://myanimelist.net/signature/RyanSaotome.png |
Oh yeah I forgot that he won over Peach. --- Ngamer64: Zylo, you're making less sense every day. Black Turtle > Me |
2005
Gordon = 2010 Gordon IMO. Not that that's an insult or anything. Gordon
was a decent midcarder back then, and he probably still is. Also, I think people on *both* sides are discussing Gordon/Breen as if we didn't just see them in the vote-in. I know vote-ins aren't perfect determinations of strength but: A) If Dr. Breen is on par with 2006 Alyx than there's no way Gordon Vs. Breen would have done so well. B) If Gordon/Breen could win the division, they certainly should have been able to break 60%, let alone 55% on Raynor/Kerrigan. --- "Ahem! There is *sand* on my *boot*!"--Kefka Black Turtle beat me, Yesmar in the Fall 2010 Guru Contest! |
I
think people are giving the Phoenix/Edgeworth rivalry too much credit,
too. Edgeworth is one of the worst fodder we've seen in recent years, so
he likely has no advantage over the anchor that Gordon has, leaving it
as a Phoenix vs Gordon match, which I'd give to Gordon every time. --- http://media.animevice.com/uploads/0/4479/467785-one_piece_we_go_super.jpg http://myanimelist.net/signature/RyanSaotome.png |
In 2005, Freeman/Wright had 110,000 votes. Their night-match this year will be lucky to break 30,000 votes. I think that alone might be a good enough reason to seriously consider Wright/Edgeworth. Besides, if the match is at all close, you know Wright/Edgeworth will be rallied to victory. --- http://images.wikia.com/finalfantasy/images/0/0e/Ffx-bahamut.jpg Support Bahamut if we ever get another real contest. |
Ultimaphazon posted... In 2005, Freeman/Wright had 110,000 votes. Their night-match this year will be lucky to break 30,000 votes. I think that alone might be a good enough reason to seriously consider Wright/Edgeworth. Besides, if the match is at all close, you know Wright/Edgeworth will be rallied to victory. If anything, its Gordon who has the rallying advantage. One topic made on official Valve forums will outdo anything the Phoenix Wright brigade can get together. --- http://media.animevice.com/uploads/0/4479/467785-one_piece_we_go_super.jpg http://myanimelist.net/signature/RyanSaotome.png |
In 2005, Freeman/Wright had 110,000 votes. Their night-match this year will be lucky to break 30,000 votes. That was a 2006 match, and it had 52030 votes after 12 hours, though that was on a weekday with normal ASV trends. Phoenix/Gordon this year will be on a weekend. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as BlAcK TuRtLe, Guru Champ! |
I
think people are looking too hard at that entire division because of
the sheer weakness in it, mixing with who they want to see win to come
up with silly results. Shepard/Saren vs. Alucard/Dracula wins the
division, and even then I think Shepard/Saren over Alucard/Dracula is
really stretching it, since Dracula might be the strongest character of
the four. --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png http://i.imgur.com/FII1z.gif |
B) If Gordon/Breen could win the division, they certainly should have been able to break 60%, let alone 55% on Raynor/Kerrigan. You can't really use the vote-ins and hope for it to be accurate. Besides Freeman did well enough to finish third behind Crono and Leon. Besides I feel that Kerrigan (and Raynor though we've never saw him before) are a lot stronger now that Starcraft II has been released. I think that alone might be a good enough reason to seriously consider Wright/Edgeworth. Besides, if the match is at all close, you know Wright/Edgeworth will be rallied to victory. Lower vote totals won't matter if Freeman is getting 55-58% on them. Heck a 52% win at 30k is still a lead of 1200 votes which is hard to reverse. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls BOP Topic: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60566352 |
Who are people taking in Tidus/Ject vs Big Boss/The Boss and Sora/Riku vs Squall/Seifer. I have Big Boss/The Boss and Sora/Riku right now. --- Demyx is better than Axel. http://www.last.fm/user/crazydom |
I have the Bosses and the KH duo, with a ton of confidence in the first and minimal in the second. --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png http://i.imgur.com/FII1z.gif |
-LusterSoldier- posted... In 2005, Freeman/Wright had 110,000 votes. Their night-match this year will be lucky to break 30,000 votes. That was a 2006 match, and it had 52030 votes after 12 hours, though that was on a weekday with normal ASV trends. Phoenix/Gordon this year will be on a weekend. http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/node/22?matchnum=2520&num=2 Night is a significant advantage it looks like... Gordon only had 56.76% at the 12 hour mark, and ended up with over 58%. But thats still an easy victory for Gordon. Phoenix needs to really hope that Gordon has fallen since then to make up that difference. --- http://media.animevice.com/uploads/0/4479/467785-one_piece_we_go_super.jpg http://myanimelist.net/signature/RyanSaotome.png |
Is
Dracula even going to be that strong? I don't see him bringing that
much more than Alucard from the Castlevania games. I mean sure we've
all heard of him in stories, but are there any hardcore Dracula fans
nowadays? --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls BOP Topic: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60566352 |
Who are people taking in Tidus/Ject vs Big Boss/The Boss and Sora/Riku vs Squall/Seifer. When did folks dismiss Dante / Vergil? I've never been impressed with Sora but Dante consistently looks good, even when he loses. --- "Getting lucky 100% of the time... it's called PRO SKILL." -BlAcK TuRtLe |
I've never been impressed with Sora but Dante consistently looks good, even when he loses. I think people have been burned by Dante too many times over the past few years going back to Yoshi in 2006 to Ryu in 2010. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls BOP Topic: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60566352 |
Dracula
is more well-known than probably 95% of this contest, and I could very
easily see people going 'oh hell yeah Dracula owns' and helping Alucard. --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png http://i.imgur.com/FII1z.gif |
I think Sora would beat Dante 1 on 1, though it would be extremely close. Plus Riku is definitely more of a boost than Vergil. --- Demyx is better than Axel. http://www.last.fm/user/crazydom |
I
think most people would take Sora over Ryu without much thought, and
Dante lost to Ryu + Riku is stronger than Vergil, so yeah. --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png http://i.imgur.com/FII1z.gif |
Dracula
is more well-known than probably 95% of this contest, and I could very
easily see people going 'oh hell yeah Dracula owns' and helping Alucard. I don't see people acting like that. I see Dracula bringing in a few apathy votes. I feel Dracula would be more like a Pac-Man than a Mario (in idea, not strength) --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls BOP Topic: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60566352 |
Message From GameFAQs on 10/10/2011 Yes, there will be a poll that day. That was Bacon's response to my question about whether or not there will be a poll during the 24 hour break between the semifinals and the final match. Well, that's good news. Maybe we can try and petition him to run a bonus match on that day. The 24 hour break between the semifinals and the final match is related to this: New For This Contest: The Final Battle Challenge. After the 62nd battle (the second semifinal), all points will be banked, and there will be a 24-hour gap before the final battle. During that day, you can make your pick for the final battle, and wager any amount from 0 up to the total number of points you have earned in the contest so far on the outcome of the final battle. Pick correctly, and you might double your score - pick incorrectly, and you could lose it all. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as BlAcK TuRtLe, Guru Champ! |
http://www.gamespot.com/greatest-video-game-villain/vote/battle-hub/index.html?battle_id=16 http://www.gamespot.com/greatest-video-game-villain/vote/battle-hub/index.html?battle_id=52 I know, lol Gamespot, but it does tell me that people don't really care about Dracula, at least there. It probably won't be much different here. --- http://media.animevice.com/uploads/0/4479/467785-one_piece_we_go_super.jpg http://myanimelist.net/signature/RyanSaotome.png |
The only possible choice for a bonus match is Link/Ganondorf vs. Barkley/Jordan. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
I think most people would take Sora over Ryu without much thought After last year? You sure about that? --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
The
main reason to have a bonus match during the 24 hour break before the
final match will be keeping this site interested in the contest while
they wait for the final match. If there was a non-contest poll during
the 24 hour break, it could hurt the vote totals in the final match
(especially if it's an SFF match such as Link/Ganondorf vs.
Mario/Bowser). Someone else suggested having a bonus match involving both of the semifinal losers, which will most likely be Samus/Ridley vs. Cloud/Sephiroth. Something like that would draw in higher vote totals than Link/Ganondorf vs. Barkley/Jordan. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as BlAcK TuRtLe, Guru Champ! |
charmander6000 posted... Dracula is more well-known than probably 95% of this contest, and I could very easily see people going 'oh hell yeah Dracula owns' and helping Alucard. I don't see people acting like that. I see Dracula bringing in a few apathy votes. I feel Dracula would be more like a Pac-Man than a Mario (in idea, not strength) While possible, I'd take Pac-Man over every lesser-half in this division except Frog, so Dracula still helps! Plus Dracula is a vampire, and people ****ing love (non-sparkly) vampires. --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png http://i.imgur.com/FII1z.gif |
-LusterSoldier- posted... The main reason to have a bonus match during the 24 hour break before the final match will be keeping this site interested in the contest while they wait for the final match. If there was a non-contest poll during the 24 hour match, it could hurt the vote totals in the final match (especially if it's an SFF match such as Link/Ganondorf vs. Mario/Bowser). We could do the match for 3rd place... like in a real tournament |
Kamekguy posted... And, being fair, I'd take Peach > Wrighto, which makes me feel pretty justified in taking Breen. Even if it were Peach Vs Daisy, I'd take it over Wright/Edgey. I'm not sure why that would make you feel justified... I don't see any sort of correlation here unless you're just looking at it as Gordon vs Phoenix. --- *is Dranze* I lost my girl and lost to Black Turtle. Can't get worse. |
A 3rd place match would probably be the best idea. SBAllen could do something crazy and make a 62 option poll of all the losers. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls BOP Topic: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60566352 |
From: WarThaNemesis2 | #276 I guess it depends on how much you think Ryu would get on Bowser today, but I would definitely have thoughts about it. --- *is Dranze* I lost my girl and lost to Black Turtle. Can't get worse. |
62
options is crazy. I don't think any poll has ever had more than 20
options in it. During the past several years, we've never had a poll
with more than 13 options. Polls that had more than 13 options were
back in the days prior to 2003. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as BlAcK TuRtLe, Guru Champ! |
Peach
> Phoenix Wright is an option. Besides her performance against
Freeman she got 34% on Tifa and equalled Jill (though that was before
her boost I guess). She didn't look that good in 2007 though Meta
Knight was in the poll. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls BOP Topic: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60566352 |
After
suffering a humiliating loss against Bowser from last year, i sure
wouldn't take Sora over the likes of Ryu/Dante/Yoshi. I mean look at
this: 2006: Riku scored 45% on Yoshi Sora scored 46% on MegaMan 2010: Riku scored 47% on Captain Falcon Sora scored 45% on Bowser I would take pre MVC3 Dante over Sora without much hesitation, let alone a MVC3 boosted Dante. Sora/Riku aren't anywhere as strong as they used to be and the release of UMVC3 in November would be a godsend gift to the DMC brothers. Should be a very close match between Dante/Vergil and Sora/Riku. (Though i can understand the reason of not siding with Dante in close matches as he always chokes.) |
About
Dracula on GameSpot: remember that he was facing a significantly
bigger villain that was ALSO better known outside of video games than
inside them. That may have caused something fishy with Dracula that you
wouldn't see if he faced a game-inspired character. Either way, given
his importance to the CV-series, I think he and Alucard will have a
rivalry-boost of some sort. I see a lot of trust being given to select one-seeds here, especially Wright/Edgeworth. It's worth noting that our board had a big influence on nominations, and you can see that by just looking at the one-seeds; four of the eight had big board-rallies (MMX/Zero, Phoenix/Miles, Red/Blue, Squall/Seifer). It was also with our help that Frog/Magus got a two-seed while Crono/Lavos got a seven-seed. Those rivalries may still be strong, but I don't trust their seeding for a second -- several of them were there largely because of the board, moreso than most contests. Phoenix/Miles provide a good rivalry to be considered, but I'll be shocked if their strength justifies their seed. Gordon beats Phoenix with ease one-on-one, HL2 wrecks any PW-game, Gordon/Breen did well enough in their vote-in, and Valve has a growing presence on GameFAQs (including the current-GotY which is loosely tied into the HL-universe). Phoenix/Miles better hold onto their early lead and never let go if they want to win. --- http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3492/eponaharr.jpg Nominate E P O N A. |
I've
got Sora/Riku over Dante/Vergil. I may even take them over
Squall/Seifer if I begin to think crazy thoughts. Certainly, Sora and
Riku didn't look good in 2010, but like I've mentioned before, this
format kinda encourages voters to think about the games, and KH
absolutely tools DMC in that regard. The games are so much more popular
that the actual Sora/Riku rivalry must be more meaningful to a lot more
people than Dante/Vergil. And hey, let's not forget that since the last
Character Battle, Kingdom Hearts has gotten Birth By Sleep. May not seem
like a big deal, but that game was really well received and performed
about as well as Dissidia in GotY voting. --- Yoblazer: http://i33.tinypic.com/ml36gl_th.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
Iamthekuzalol posted... After suffering a humiliating loss against Bowser from last year, i sure wouldn't take Sora over the likes of Ryu/Dante/Yoshi. I mean look at this: 2006: Riku scored 45% on Yoshi Sora scored 46% on MegaMan 2010: Riku scored 47% on Captain Falcon Sora scored 45% on Bowser I would take pre MVC3 Dante over Sora without much hesitation, let alone a MVC3 boosted Dante. Sora/Riku aren't anywhere as strong as they used to be and the release of UMVC3 in November would be a godsend gift to the DMC brothers. Should be a very close match between Dante/Vergil and Sora/Riku. (Though i can understand the reason of not siding with Dante in close matches as he always chokes.) If Riku doing 47% on Falcon is bad, then it says a lot that Ryu (who is stronger than Dante and miles and miles stronger than Vergil) only did 4% better on Cloud than Falcon did. --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png http://i.imgur.com/FII1z.gif |
5% better on cloud is a pretty huge margin considering it's cloud >_> --- ~Acting on Impulse~ Black Turtle still didn't MAJORA'S MASK |
Yes but Riku is the ass-end of his pairing, while Dante is the strong-end. --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png http://i.imgur.com/FII1z.gif |
Also,
Sora will be the only non-white haired entrant and will thus draw
attention to his picture and voting option. It's clear as day! --- Yoblazer: http://8board.webs.com/ariel.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
Seriously
though how many times are people going to need to get burned by Dante
before they stop taking him in a close match? >_> --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png http://i.imgur.com/FII1z.gif |
From: PartOfYourWorld | #292 I've pretty much thought my matches out like this as well. --- *is Dranze* I lost my girl and lost to Black Turtle. Can't get worse. |
The
bonus poll has to be Link/Ganondorf against Mario/Sonic. Nothing else
even comes close. I guess Link/Ganondorf against Batman/Superman might
have potential too. Does lower votals actually mean that Guybrush has a chance? If it were a night match he might actually be able to pull it off. |
So
since people brought up lol xstats regarding Phoenix Gordon, it is
worth noting that 2010 Phoenix is projected to get 49% on 2006 Gordon.
Now, that's obviously not going to be a figure to take as the gospel,
but I think the difference is significant enough to say that Phoenix has
gotten a fair bit stronger, and there's nothing statistically weird
about either 2006 Gordon/Phoenix or 2010 Phoenix. Just an interesting
estimate. Anyway, I would like to see Mario/Sonic in the bonus match. Maybe not if Mario/Bowser manages to win (unlikely but not impossible). Or maybe that would make it better? --- Something something something ^Poorly disguised anti-caps sig |
