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#301 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 9/27/2011 8:46:14 PM | message detail
Well your Pokemon do want to help you become the best Pokemon trainer in the world. To do that, they need to beat your rival's Pokemon who is your top opponent.
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#302 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/27/2011 8:46:48 PM | message detail

From: Team Rocket Elite | #301
Well your Pokemon do want to help you become the best Pokemon trainer in the world.


I don't remember my Pokemon ever expressing such a desire!
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#303 | Emporer_Kazbar | Posted 9/27/2011 8:49:03 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #122
I don't remember my Pokemon ever expressing such a desire!


They get happier by winning battles. So at the very least they want to become the best pokemon in the world.
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#304 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/27/2011 8:50:07 PM | message detail
But do they particularly care about any specific Pokemon they fight more than any other?
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#305 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 9/27/2011 8:51:56 PM | message detail
Oak said they do at the end of the game. You are able to win because of the bond you have with your Pokemon.
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#306 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/27/2011 8:52:44 PM | message detail
I mean, does Charizard care more about fighting Blastoise than he cares about fighting, say, Jigglypuff?
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#307 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 9/27/2011 9:01:41 PM | message detail
Nice poll today. It took until vote 186 for International Superstar Soccer 64 to get its first vote.
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#308 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/27/2011 9:01:59 PM | message detail
#309 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 9/27/2011 9:07:18 PM | message detail
Mario 64 is only slightly doubling Star Fox 64 and Mario Kart 64.
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#310 | HaRRicH | Posted 9/27/2011 9:08:09 PM | message detail
SM64...oh yeah.

I hate to see Bomberman 64 do so poorly, especially since I once thought it could be Bomberman's strongest game.
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#311 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/27/2011 9:08:39 PM | message detail
It probably is, actually.

And that's all we need to know about Bomberman games.
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#312 | charmander6000 | Posted 9/27/2011 9:09:24 PM | message detail
Decent perfomance by Mario Kart 64 in the face of SM64 it still has second place.
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#313 | HaRRicH | Posted 9/27/2011 9:11:54 PM | message detail
This isn't the first time we've seen MK64 and SF64 in a poll together:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3459

Looks like SM64's affecting MK64 a lot more, which isn't surprising. It also doesn't help MK64's case in this rematch that SF64DS just came out.
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#314 | red sox 777 | Posted 9/27/2011 9:57:01 PM | message detail
True/False: "Zelda 64" would be winning this poll.
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#315 | red sox 777 | Posted 9/27/2011 10:00:26 PM | message detail
Also, this is impressive by Mario Kart 64. I didn't think it would be able to put up 35% on Mario 64 directly.
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#316 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 9/27/2011 10:02:31 PM | message detail
True/False: "Zelda 64" would be winning this poll.

If OoT was called "The Legend of Zelda 64", it would be winning this poll.
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#317 | SuperAngelo128 | Posted 9/27/2011 10:03:44 PM | message detail
so why hasn't Mario Kart 64 been in a contest
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#318 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/27/2011 10:15:03 PM | message detail

From: SuperAngelo128 | #317
so why hasn't Mario Kart 64 been in a contest


http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3459
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3484
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#319 | ffmasterjose | Posted 9/27/2011 10:16:15 PM | message detail
They ported Star Fox 64 to the DS recently? omg there are so many games I want to buy. Damn you bills and other necessary life responsiblities
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#320 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 9/28/2011 7:40:16 AM | message detail
MK64 has really pulled away from SF64 with the night vote, thanks to Europe, Asia, and Oceania.
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#321 | jonthomson | Posted 9/28/2011 7:41:27 AM | message detail
red sox 777 posted...
True/False: "Zelda 64" would be winning this poll.

true

it's also amazing that over 700 people have voted for the crime against humanity that was bomberman 64
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#322 | Ultimaphazon | Posted 9/28/2011 7:49:42 AM | message detail
How many noms total are we looking at for this contest? I read somewhere that we are somewhere past the 10,000 mark. wouldn't be surprised if we're already at the half-way point as far as noms go. I believe noms are usually very frontloaded, right?
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#323 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 9/28/2011 8:16:41 AM | message detail
I've forgotten, how many noms were made for the GotD contest?
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#324 | KamikazePotato | Posted 9/28/2011 8:20:33 AM | message detail
Has the nom database been updated?
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#325 | Ultimaphazon | Posted 9/28/2011 8:35:40 AM | message detail
https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0AgBWiYjlMLwYdFdYeXoxbmcyYjJnMEZLYmhsTzFWS0E

It hasn't changed since last friday. Unless Bacon changed to a different database, or something.
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#326 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 9/28/2011 9:15:23 AM | message detail
How many noms total are we looking at for this contest? I read somewhere that we are somewhere past the 10,000 mark. wouldn't be surprised if we're already at the half-way point as far as noms go. I believe noms are usually very frontloaded, right?

The current nomination total right now is 11635. We'll probably be around 12000 nominations after exactly 4 days. And yeah, noms are very frontloaded in the first 24 hours. We already had 6049 nominations after 24 hours and 8202 nominations after 48 hours. Since then, there's only been about 3000 nominations in the past 3 days.

I've forgotten, how many noms were made for the GotD contest?

54577. But nominations remained open for 19 days for that contest. If we are looking at a 63-65 day contest here, then nominations will remain open for no more than 10 days at the most, because we would have to fit in the contest before Christmas arrives. Although I'm guessing we'll be looking at a mini-contest here (30-50 days at most).
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#327 | Advokaiser | Posted 9/28/2011 10:24:39 AM | message detail
I always wonder why you guys only post here between 10:00 P.M. and 4:00 A.M.

Not fair.
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#328 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/28/2011 10:33:01 AM | message detail
Polls open at midnight.
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#329 | Advokaiser | Posted 9/28/2011 10:36:45 AM | message detail
Oh, so essentially you discuss the trends of DA BOARD VOTE.
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#330 | Ultimaphazon | Posted 9/28/2011 10:45:52 AM | message detail
So, does that mean we'll likely finish at less than 20,000 noms?
I wonder how many noms Mario / Bowser is going to get.

Many casuals probably won't use their 15 noms, so I believe it's possible something popular like Mario / Bowser could represent 5% of all nominations. That's 400 noms, more than any Board 8 rally is likely to ever reach.

Now if you think 5% is too much, you can lower that a bit. Link / Ganondorf will obviously be the most nominated riivalry, probably followed Cloud / Sephiroth. Hmm, I don't know how realistic that ratio of 5% really is.
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#331 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/28/2011 11:12:24 AM | message detail
Well, Bacon insists that Mario/Sonic isn't even close to having enough nominations right now, and we have well over 100 commitments on Board 8 alone, so...
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#332 | Advokaiser | Posted 9/28/2011 11:13:55 AM | message detail
I don't know, but 400 noms seems way too low for a 1 seed IMO.
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#333 | Ultimaphazon | Posted 9/28/2011 11:38:34 AM | message detail
I know Bacon told us how many noms Link got during the last character battle, but I don't remember how many it was.

If Luster (or someone else) could remember that, we could get a good idea on what percentage of noms the overall 1-seed typically gets.
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#334 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/28/2011 12:04:30 PM | message detail
#335 | Ultimaphazon | Posted 9/28/2011 12:19:31 PM | message detail | (edited)
Ok. Remember that contest had far more noms than this one will have, at least 3 times as many, maybe even more.
So that would be 600 noms for the overall 1-seed, which will be Link / Ganondorf. Mario / Bowser should be lower than that, and will split some casual votes with Mario / Wario as well. Looking at all of that, my guess of 400 noms for Mario / Bowser doesn't sound that unlikely.

Edit: I obviously realise that things aren't as easy as this, and that those conversions don't quite work out, but it gives us some kind of estimate.
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#336 | red sox 777 | Posted 9/28/2011 1:04:23 PM | message detail
I always wonder why you guys only post here between 10:00 P.M. and 4:00 A.M.

Not fair.


Polls opening at midnight is a big reason. I think another one is that people tend to be home and on Gamefaqs late at night.....and 10 PM - 4 AM is only 7 PM - 1 AM on the West Coast. 4 AM is also late enough that we get some European posters posting in the morning over there.
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#337 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 9/28/2011 1:30:42 PM | message detail | (edited)
Mario Kart 64 vs. Super Mario Galaxy
I...think the latter would win but if you take this result seriously it implies the former has a shot.

Or perhaps that SM64 isn't as strong as we thought.
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#338 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/28/2011 1:59:27 PM | message detail
Mario Kart 64 is a strong game. I'd wager it's stronger than Super Mario Kart, which is essentially Super Metroid's equal.
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#339 | Ngamer64 | Posted 9/28/2011 2:03:48 PM | message detail
Ultimaphazon posted...
Ok. Remember that contest had far more noms than this one will have, at least 3 times as many, maybe even more.
So that would be 600 noms for the overall 1-seed, which will be Link / Ganondorf. Mario / Bowser should be lower than that, and will split some casual votes with Mario / Wario as well. Looking at all of that, my guess of 400 noms for Mario / Bowser doesn't sound that unlikely.

Edit: I obviously realise that things aren't as easy as this, and that those conversions don't quite work out, but it gives us some kind of estimate.


Correct, catching Mario/Bowser shouldn't be impossible, like SB is trying to make us think. I ran some ridiculous numbers on this in another topic

Ngamer64 posted...
Hmmm, I don't think it would be impossible. Let's look at the numbers from last year's Character Battle as an example.

Link was the #1 overall choice, picked by 1,853 people. Obviously B8 isn't going to come close to putting up 2k noms, buuuuuuuuut

* Over 90,000 total noms were sent in back then. Now we've got less site traffic, a much less popular Contest idea, a form that takes more effort to fill out, a shorter nomination period (probably), no banner on the front page to direct casuals to the form (probably). Only 7,000 noms have been made so far, and I'd say we'd be lucky to reach 20,000. So proportionally, we're now down to 412 for Mario v Bowser.

* Link's always more popular than Mario to the tune of 63/37 or so. If that's true for noms as well, we're down to 152.

* Apparently some people think Mario v Wario is a good idea? I don't get it either, but there were enough noms for SB to add that option to the list, so it must be true! If 20 of those Mario fans would rather see him face Wario than Bowser, now we're split down to 132.

Even without BT's help this should be easily doable!


What I didn't factor in is that Mario/Bowser's iconic status might result in an even higher percentage of the noms than Link pulled last season. But even so, Link > Mario and the smaller total nom number and the splits with Luigi and Wario are all still true. Mario/Sonic's got the whole board behind it and should have plenty of support from outside as well. We can do this!
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#340 | Ngamer64 | Posted 9/28/2011 2:10:11 PM | message detail
But for today's poll, yeah, pretty cool to finally see some of these without Ocarina/Majora/Goldeneye eating up all the percentage! MK64 comes out of this looking great, of course, but I also wouldn't sleep on Star Fox. It's pulling in a very impressive 18% in North America- wouldn't want to mess with this game in a Day Match! (But only 10% everywhere else, so ouch to its Night Match chances.)
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#341 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/28/2011 2:11:55 PM | message detail

From: Ngamer64 | #340
But for today's poll, yeah, pretty cool to finally see some of these without Ocarina/Majora/Goldeneye eating up all the percentage!


GoldenEye wouldn't be eating up all the percentage if it were here, not sure what you're talking about!

We already knew Fox and company had a great day vote before though, so that's nothing new!

From: Ngamer64 | #339
What I didn't factor in is that Mario/Bowser's iconic status might result in an even higher percentage of the noms than Link pulled last season. But even so, Link > Mario and the smaller total nom number and the splits with Luigi and Wario are all still true. Mario/Sonic's got the whole board behind it and should have plenty of support from outside as well. We can do this!


You also didn't factor in the fact that people can nominate Link/Ganon AND Mario/Bowser, so your SFF calculations are pretty much useless.
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#342 | Ultimaphazon | Posted 9/28/2011 2:22:28 PM | message detail
* Over 90,000 total noms were sent in back then. Now we've got less site traffic, a much less popular Contest idea, a form that takes more effort to fill out, a shorter nomination period (probably), no banner on the front page to direct casuals to the form (probably). Only 7,000 noms have been made so far, and I'd say we'd be lucky to reach 20,000. So proportionally, we're now down to 412 for Mario v Bowser.

* Link's always more popular than Mario to the tune of 63/37 or so. If that's true for noms as well, we're down to 152.


Are you sure on the math there? I get 242 noms for M/B instead of your 152. (412 / 63 * 37)
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#343 | TheOneAboveAll | Posted 9/28/2011 2:46:25 PM | message detail
Does seeding go straight based on nominations? If we could get a decent surge for Mario/Bowser and all remove our Link nomes and get Mario the #1 seed, does that mean that Bacon would have to put Link/Ganondorf against Cloud/Sephiroth in the semis? Or would he still keep Link and Cloud on separate halves of the bracket?


Also, can we please get the word out for Mario/Sonic noms so that can make the tournament? (And yes, I realize my two ideas are pretty much mutually exclusive. The latter would be what I want but the former is probably more feasible.)
#344 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/28/2011 2:47:55 PM | message detail
I'm sure Bacon tweaks with seeding a little bit.
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#345 | CommodoreTN | Posted 9/28/2011 3:11:36 PM | message detail

From: Ultimaphazon | #342
Are you sure on the math there? I get 242 noms for M/B instead of your 152. (412 / 63 * 37)


Are you sure on the math there? Mario/Bowser HAS 412.

Link is MORE popular 63/37.

Therefore Link will have more than Mario/Bowser, not less. It isn't 152 or 242.
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#346 | HaRRicH | Posted 9/28/2011 3:12:30 PM | message detail
Wasn't there a situation in a recent contest were Jak/Revolver had the fewest nominations to make it into a contest, yet Revolver/Jak had a lower seed than Jak/Revolver? Pretty sure there was a situation similar to that which confirmed SB tweaks the seeding to some degree.
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#347 | KingButz | Posted 9/28/2011 3:15:02 PM | message detail

From: CommodoreTN | #345
Are you sure on the math there? Mario/Bowser HAS 412.

Link is MORE popular 63/37.

Therefore Link will have more than Mario/Bowser, not less. It isn't 152 or 242.


The 152/242 figures are given for Mario/Bowser. 412 is Mario/Bowser if they were equal to Link.
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#349 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 9/28/2011 3:32:03 PM | message detail
Set Mario/Bowser to 45% or so instead. When you can have 15 nominations, there's not going to be any notable SFF; you can nominate Mario/Bowser, Link/Ganondorf, and have 13 choices to spare.
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#350 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/28/2011 7:11:53 PM | message detail

From: HaRRicH | #346
Wasn't there a situation in a recent contest were Jak/Revolver had the fewest nominations to make it into a contest, yet Revolver/Jak had a lower seed than Jak/Revolver? Pretty sure there was a situation similar to that which confirmed SB tweaks the seeding to some degree.


Well, the vote-in winners weren't seeded according to how well they did in the polls either, so there's a bit of tweaking there as well.
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