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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1003
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"None,
I've never owned a single Castlevania game" has just dropped 3.5% from
the board vote. I guess Castlevania had a bad board vote. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as BlAcK TuRtLe, Guru Champ! |
Hmm... how closely do you guys think a "Rivals Noble 9" would mirror the actual N9? Link/Ganondorf Cloud/Sephiroth Mario/Bowser Solid Snake/Liquid Snake (or Ocelot) Samus/Ridley Crono/Magus (assuming Magus doesn't get in with Frog) Mega Man/Proto Man (or Dr. Wily) Sonic/Knuckles (or Shadow) The pairing that immediately jumps out to me is Samus/Ridley. Ridley's weakness could be a huge liability, and apart from that, he's not much of a rival compared to, well, any real one. Here are some pairings I can potentially see cracking those top eight: X/Zero (wouldn't be surprised to see this team as top four or five) Charizard/Blastoise (or a similar hugely popular RBY era pairing) Big Boss/The Boss Ryu/Ken Sub-Zero/Scorpion --- Yoblazer: http://oi52.tinypic.com/ad21i1.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
Snake/Big Boss would be stronger than Snake/Liquid or Ocelot. --- http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/8516/whatisdesiresig.gif |
You're probably right. I hope Liquid or Ocelot get the coveted spot though, cuz Boss/Boss needs to happen. --- Yoblazer: http://i44.tinypic.com/5nw45i.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
Here's my list for top 10 based on those rivalries: Cloud/Sephiroth Link/Ganondorf Mario/Bowser Solid Snake/Liquid Snake (or Ocelot) X/Zero Crono/Magus Sonic/Knuckles (or Shadow) Charizard/Blastoise Mega Man/Proto Man (or Dr. Wily) Ryu/Ken Samus/Ridley does feel off, as does Mega Man to a lesser extent. X/Zero should be golden. --- 90s games > 00s games |
Yeah, I'd rather have Snake/Ocelot and Big Boss/The Boss just from a personal standpoint. Kinda disappointed that Ocelot will probably get the shaft either way because he's the #2 rival to both Snake and Big Boss. He shouldn't be #2 for Snake after MGS4, but all that BROTHERRRRRRRRR --- "I can set you free, mate." "My freedom was forfeit long ago!" |
With regards to Mario/Sonic, I have a much easier time seeing them lose to Link/Ganon than Cloud/Sephiroth. Mario/Sonic should
be the strongest rivalry, but Link would wreck both Mario and Sonic 1
on 1. He'd be well north of 50% in a 3-way poll, probably north of 55%. --- 90s games > 00s games |
Samus/Ridley is fine. It's no worse than either of Mega Man's pairings. Crono/Magus isn't the best either. --- peace comes from within |
Yeah, I'm not sure why we think Samus/Ridley is any worse than Mega Man/Wily or Protoman. It's not like either one of those is exceptionally strong. --- http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2011/8/22/2094c2de-bae8-4f5b-9f27-67eaff0aaeaf.jpg |
By
the way, have we discussed how this contest may completely nix some of
our more popular characters without a clear rival? Who does Auron get in
with if Tidus takes Jecht? How about Vincent? If Mario gets in with
Bowser, are we really gonna see Luigi in here with Waluigi (I'm guessing
that pairing will out-nom anything else Luigi could get). Zelda is a
goner unless we see Zelda/Sheik in the ultimate lol. Leon Kennedy is
probably out unless he gets enough noms with Ada or Jack Krauser
actually makes a contest. Does Master Chief have a clear rival? Can
Gordon get in with Dr. Breen? Duke Nukem is probably out, which is a
damn shame considering his GotD contender was finally released. Has Bacon mentioned anything about taking liberties to mix and match the teams in order to create a decent field, or do the most nommed entrants get in no matter what? wait... omg... FF fans, reassure me and tell me that ZACK ****ING FAIR has a dance partner --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/25z1non.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
Vincent has a clear rival in Hojo, although I doubt enough people care about that rivalry (or Dirge of Cerberus) to nominate it. Zack also has a rival he could use from Crisis Core in Genesis, but again, I doubt it gets that kind of support. Auron could use Yunalesca, but I doubt that would get enough noms either. Tidus gets Jecht and Yuna gets Seymour. --- "So cold. I am always by your side." "There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!" |
Although a rivalry we really need to see is Tifa/Aerith. --- "So cold. I am always by your side." "There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!" |
Vincent would be Hojo, Zack would be Genesis. Master Chief's would be The Covenant, but groups aren't allowed. --- peace comes from within |
Seymour
and Yunalesca, ugh. Auron and Yuna are doomed if those are their
partners. I'd prefer Yuna to have Sin as her rival, actually.....Sin
isn't much of a character, but as the embodiment of.....sin, Sin is
pretty good. And that's what Yuna is fighting. --- 90s games > 00s games |
Sin can't get in the contest because the same character can't be in the contest twice. --- http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7760/222bj.jpg |
Alternatively, Zack's rival could be bullets! --- peace comes from within |
It also allows some people in that you would never see otherwise. But I do see what you're saying. >_> --- The New England Journal of Medicine reports that 9 out of 10 doctors agree that 1 out of 10 doctors is an idiot. |
From: LeonhartFour | #211 Well, at least there's the sense that Mega Man has a real rivalry with those two characters. Voters may indeed vote differently in this contest - it's a contest based on rivalries, so it shouldn't surprise anyone if many voters actually take the rivalries into consideration when voting. Samus/Ridley is a pretty terrible. Ridley is more of a WHOAMG RANDOM BOSS FIGHT than a true rival. Unless Other M changed things (and no one on this site played it to find out), Samus has never really developed a rivalry with anyone. Even as far as tenacious bosses go, Ridley has nothing on someone like Nemesis. --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/25z1non.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
FFX Spoilers Sin existed before Jecht. They are not identical. --- 90s games > 00s games |
I don't like the idea of Yuna's rival being a mindless beast who's only being controlled by something else anyway. It's no better than Crono having Lavos or Samus having Mother Brain for a rival. --- http://www.gifsoup.com/view/593815/frasier-and-niles-dance-o.gif |
What. How many Metroid games have you played, Yoblazer? Ridley has a very clear rivalry with Samus. --- peace comes from within |
If Lavos were named Fate, he'd be a pretty good rival for Crono too. Though I do see your point. --- 90s games > 00s games |
You can always nominate that for Serge's rival! --- http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/8516/whatisdesiresig.gif |
From: ZFS | #223 Super, Fusion, and the three Primes. Ridley is foreshadowed a few times, but tons of bosses in countless games are foreshadowed - it's not necessarily indicative of a rivalry. Honestly, I thought Samus had more of a rivalry with her evil doppelgangers in Fusion and Prime 2 than she ever had with Ridley. --- Yoblazer: http://oi52.tinypic.com/ad21i1.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
Samus/Dark Samus could actually be an interesting prospect. --- http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7760/222bj.jpg |
Crazy.
Ridley immediately comes to mind as Samus's clearcut rival in Metroid.
He's often the highlight of Metroid boss battles, and he's the only
character who's constantly at odds with her. SA-X and Dark Samus are
pretty whatever in comparison! Mother Brain is a bigger rival than those
two. --- peace comes from within |
OOT Link/WW Link. Just for Ulti. They are different characters after all! --- 90s games > 00s games |
OOT
Link vs WW Link actually *is* a good rivalry, because anyone who says
they like Wind Waker is someone you never ever need to listen to on any
subject. --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best Game Ever" Contest http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page, Rest in peace Mitch Stuekerjuergen :( |
I think I'd laugh for an hour if like six different timeline Links got in. --- Yoblazer: http://i33.tinypic.com/ml36gl_th.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
On cue. Impressive. --- peace comes from within |
Yuna/Yu Yevon |
Ridley's not strong, but he sure looked better than Liquid last contest! --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] |
Too bad Palmer/Shinra truck isn't valid --- Xbox Live Gamertag: ffmasterjose Your favorite Trapper's favorite Trapper |
Hmm,
looks like no one has pasted in SB's replies to today's feedback
tickets yet. I'll throw those up here so we have them on record. On the subject of Einstein vs Hitler: GameSpot already did it. Yes, and? I didn't see him banning Gordon Freeman after he rallied his way to a Gamespot Championship. I guess characters are only allowed one joke run before it's unfunny and needs to be banned... yet he keeps letting L-Block back in every year? To clarify, I have no problem with kicking Einstein out- this is a horrible way of justifying it! On the subject of Mario/Sonic: Definitely not the real rival of either of those characters. Talked about this at length in Ulti's topic, but basically, not letting the nominators decide which rivalries are the "best" or "real" makes me wonder why he bothered putting up a nomination form in the first place. On the subject of Barkley/Jordan: Wouldn't really call them "historical characters" Fair enough. But then KP pressed him with a second ticket explaining how they're in a non-sports game together, prompting SB's first ACTUAL reply: I know the game - but entries like that lead to two possibilities: 1) It gets almost no votes, and goes out in the first round despite all the nominations, while keeping a better entry off the bracket, or 2) it becomes a /b/ rally point, winning and knocking out more popular entries, but alienating the majority of voters and leading to less people being interested in the contest (See: the latest GameSpot contest). Whoa, hold the phone! That's a really well-reasoned and insightful response; I'd expect to see a post like that in the Stats Topic, not a feedback ticket. I disagree with him about "better entries" (if you lose the 32nd spot to a minor B8 rally like THAT, you weren't "deserving" of anything), and L-Block seems to speak against his anti-rally statement. But still, it's cool to see he pays such close attention to vote trends, to the point where he even keeps a close eye on votals in a Gamespot Contest. Not even I can be bothered to do that! I just don't understand how someone could care so much about these Contests and put so much effort into avoiding voter apathy, then turn around and make a decision like outlawing Mario/Sonic. --- thengamer.com/guru thengamer.com/xstats board8.wikia.com You should search for The Show, the cool podcast featuring Guru Champ Black Turtle! |
I
wanted to see MJ/Charles because I get the feeling this contest will
suck. That doesn't mean I want joke entries filling up the bracket, but a
solid joke to rally behind would have been nice, and these two masters
of slamjam would have fit the bill nicely. Einstein/Hitler is a horrible idea. I don't know who started it, how it gained any momentum, or why people think it would be fun. Adolf Hitler in a popularity contest on the front page? Really? Nixing Mario/Sonic is the worst decision he could have made, however. How is this contest not MADE for Mario/Sonic? Dp made an excellent point in another topic: the way he's going about this, it's as if SBAllen had a very specific vision for this contest and is shooting down suggestions that challenge it, even when one suggestion is including the biggest character rivalry in video game history. --- Yoblazer: http://i44.tinypic.com/5nw45i.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
Einstein/Hitler
was started by someone on 4chan. They actually linked to the
nomination form and told people to create a GameFAQs account so they
could nominate Einstein/Hitler. People on 4chan also nominated other
legit rivalries so their nominations don't appear to be suspicious. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as BlAcK TuRtLe, Guru Champ! |
PartOfYourWorld posted... Dp made an excellent point in another topic: the way he's going about this, it's as if SBAllen had a very specific vision for this contest and is shooting down suggestions that challenge it, even when one suggestion is including the biggest character rivalry in video game history. That nails it right on the head. For years now SB's been identifying what he sees as a problem, then constructing a bracket to get around it. "Link always wins 1v1." Let's try four ways! "4ways suck, but we still want 128 entrants." 12 hour matches! "Ocarina and FF7 are too strong." Game of the Decade instead! And honestly, I'd call that set of choices a nice little winning streak. This time the message he got was: Link's still too strong. "I'll saddle him with Ganon... Mario/Bowser's more iconic and people care more about Cloud/Seph, so the character bracket will be interesting again!" Which isn't terrible reasoning, but he had such tunnel vision for Mario/Bowser that he wouldn't consider anything else, and killed a much more legitimate challenger to Link's throne as a result! --- thengamer.com/guru thengamer.com/xstats board8.wikia.com You should search for The Show, the cool podcast featuring Guru Champ Black Turtle! |
If
Link/Ganon wins the contest, maybe the bonus match could be Link/Ganon
vs. Mario/Sonic, just to see how voters feel about Mario/Sonic. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as BlAcK TuRtLe, Guru Champ! |
So... who's MissingNo.'s rival? .M? Wait? Can we actually do that? |
From: -LusterSoldier- | #240 If Bacon did that, it would make up for things a little. But if Mario/Sonic did win, then it makes excluding them from the contest even more inexcusable! --- http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab48/Leonhart4/Squall.jpg |
...Should we check with Bacon to make sure X/Zero is actually a legit nomination? --- http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab48/Leonhart4/Squall.jpg |
Why wouldn't it be? --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls Congratulations to Black Turtle for winning the guru contest. |
LeonhartFour posted... ...Should we check with Bacon to make sure X/Zero is actually a legit nomination? I'm actually kinda worried about that myself. What if Bacon says if they're fighting the same enemy, they aren't rivals or something crazy like that? --- http://media.animevice.com/uploads/0/4479/467785-one_piece_we_go_super.jpg http://myanimelist.net/signature/RyanSaotome.png |
It doesn't strike me as being all that different from something like Ken/Ryu. --- Yoblazer: http://8board.webs.com/ariel.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
It shouldn't be discounted, especially considering they fight each other on multiple occasions throughout the series, but... I just wish Bacon would update the database so we could know what he's accepted and what he's rejected. --- "Why must we always choose between certain death and probable death?" "I'm in an epic battle to the death, FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF!" |
Bacon
only adds stuff to the database that he thinks would be commonly
nominated rivalries or rivalries where one of the characters has a name
that's difficult to spell. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as BlAcK TuRtLe, Guru Champ! |
Based on the last contests he seems to be going with characters that seen to be getting a lot of nominations. --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls Congratulations to Black Turtle for winning the guru contest. |
